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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Primary Captain on July 05, 2013, 08:48:33 PM
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(http://news.slnutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1.jpg)
Blows away most guys who are juicing. This dude won't even touch creatine.
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(http://news.slnutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1.jpg)
Blows away most guys who are juicing. This dude won't even touch creatine.
What is this, "Ducky Dynasty the Dianabol Years"? ;)
Good physique. Very good.
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A few years down the road.
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(http://news.slnutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1.jpg)
Blows away most guys who are juicing. This dude won't even touch creatine.
is prohormona natural?
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Wutup w that navel?
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Good physique, but dude looks like an idiot and most likely smells terrible.
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What's the diet look like?
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mielke40.htm .
There's an interview with him, years ago he had all the kids on bodybuilding.com swooning for his affection.
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he's an artist as well
musician i believe
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Wutup w that navel?
Sad face navel >:(
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No-Carb diet
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natural probably
impressive no
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for a natural I think he is impressive, especially how lean he is. Not too muscular but not DJ181 either. I am on my way to get there as this would be my ideal physic.
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for a natural I think he is impressive, especially how lean he is. Not too muscular but not DJ181 either. I am on my way to get there as this would be my ideal physic.
;D ;D ;D
just curious, what's your height/weight, % bodyfat and arm measurement?
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6'5 225 pounds and no idea about measurements as I do not really care about size. This guy has physic I am aiming to have.
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6'5"
fuck!
that'd be cool to be that tall me thinks
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yes it is but sometimes its annoying, lets say you find a nice piece of clothes but you can't fit in. And it happens a lot
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yes it is but sometimes its annoying, lets say you find a nice piece of clothes but you can't fit in. And it happens a lot
Do you get the basketball question a lot?
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belly button skin looks very weird
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Do you get the basketball question a lot?
sometimes, even though 6'5 is considered a dwarf in basketball.
I do receive more questions from grandmas in the shop to pick up something for them from top shelf.
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http://helpmeloseweight-coach.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/will-i-get-loose-skin-if-i-lose-fat.jpg
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
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http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w47/KineticPoet/PICT0171.jpg
(http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg)
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(http://news.slnutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/1.jpg)
Blows away most guys who are juicing. This dude won't even touch creatine.
Agreed looks really good, but I don't know what food he has hiding in his beard.
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Converted Muslim?
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Epic trying to look wider, by lifting your arms outward/ILS.
Dude would look narrow if he let his arms hang next to his body.
Shredded though.
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Needs that stupid look smacked of his face.
Is that the filthy c unt off bb.com years ago that eat egg shells?
Ugliest man seen in a long while
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Agreed looks really good, but I don't know what food he has hiding in his beard.
that's not a beard, it's a carb strainer.
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Agreed looks really good, but I don't know what food he has hiding in his beard.
(http://food.lohudblogs.com/files/PetesChiliDog2.jpg)
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If I was him, I would elect to get surgery to tighten up that fold of skin around the navel. It just ruins the look.
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Holy shit....
I've been lurking for years now, but it's time for me to finally post... I randomly happened to click on this thread and low and behold, my picture pops up!?? Thanks for sharing my 'before' picture from my transformation...here's an update for all you getbiggers who want to tear me apart...
Background info: I was 330lbs at 52% body fat, had gastric bypass and a skin surgery, went down to 156lbs (skin and bones) and worked my ass off to gain. I placed 3rd in the novice middleweight division of an NPC show in 2012, and placed 1st (novice hwt, open middle) in a show this year. I've always wanted to be a bodybuilder, ever since I could remember, and now I'm living the dream (although I'm still wenis compared to what I'd love to be eventually).
Anyway, thanks for sharing the embarrassing skin picture, lol. Always humbles me to see where I've come from...
http://helpmeloseweight-coach.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/will-i-get-loose-skin-if-i-lose-fat.jpg
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHHrHQi8hWlueDCYVL xth2cq29eCfSy9NugQqfaVdl T7AGlgG0
http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/PolishedIron/IMG_0116.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w47/KineticPoet/PICT0171.jpg
(http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg)
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Holy shit....
I've been lurking for years now, but it's time for me to finally post... I randomly happened to click on this thread and low and behold, my picture pops up!?? Thanks for sharing my 'before' picture from my transformation...here's an update for all you getbiggers who want to tear me apart...
Background info: I was 330lbs at 52% body fat, had gastric bypass and a skin surgery, went down to 156lbs (skin and bones) and worked my ass off to gain. I placed 3rd in the novice middleweight division of an NPC show in 2012, and placed 1st (novice hwt, open middle) in a show this year. I've always wanted to be a bodybuilder, ever since I could remember, and now I'm living the dream (although I'm still wenis compared to what I'd love to be eventually).
Anyway, thanks for sharing the embarrassing skin picture, lol. Always humbles me to see where I've come from...
The end result looks good. But I can't shake the feeling that bariatric surgery is cheating. I'm trying it the old-fashioned way (from 310), and I would love such a "little" push myself.
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Holy shit....
I've been lurking for years now, but it's time for me to finally post... I randomly happened to click on this thread and low and behold, my picture pops up!?? Thanks for sharing my 'before' picture from my transformation...here's an update for all you getbiggers who want to tear me apart...
Background info: I was 330lbs at 52% body fat, had gastric bypass and a skin surgery, went down to 156lbs (skin and bones) and worked my ass off to gain. I placed 3rd in the novice middleweight division of an NPC show in 2012, and placed 1st (novice hwt, open middle) in a show this year. I've always wanted to be a bodybuilder, ever since I could remember, and now I'm living the dream (although I'm still wenis compared to what I'd love to be eventually).
Anyway, thanks for sharing the embarrassing skin picture, lol. Always humbles me to see where I've come from...
You look great, congrats!
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I'm back doin my standing one arm dumbell concentration curl with 180 lb dumbell, yeah I can curl his body weight with one arm......I don't think he's gona catch up anytime soon, his bodyfat % won't save his ass in true iron pumpers world!
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Great job buddy. My sincere congratulations.
Enjoy your new body. You earned it.
Before you give him a compliment, you should ask him if he's converted to Islam
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I'm back doin my standing one arm dumbell concentration curl with 180 lb dumbell, yeah I can curl his body weight with one arm......I don't think he's gona catch up anytime soon, his bodyfat % won't save his ass in true iron pumpers world!
It might get him laid though.
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Converted Muslim?
no just bear
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I'm back doin my standing one arm dumbell concentration curl with 180 lb dumbell, yeah I can curl his body weight with one arm......I don't think he's gona catch up anytime soon, his bodyfat % won't save his ass in true iron pumpers world!
SHUT EM DOWN, CSWOL!!
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The end result looks good. But I can't shake the feeling that bariatric surgery is cheating. I'm trying it the old-fashioned way (from 310), and I would love such a "little" push myself.
Haha, if I had a dime for every time I heard weight loss surgery was 'cheating', or better yet, I got my 'muscles' because I got surgery.
I commend you on your weight loss efforts and hope you achieve your goals Phreak, but please don't think that any type of bariatric surgery is the easy way out, or 'little' push you would need. Since my transformation, I have given countless talks at weight loss seminars and the biggest obstacle I've faced have been naysayers who think the same way. I've kept an open mind throughout the entire process because of this.
Weight Loss Surgery for a morbidly obese person is to "cheating" as steroids are to a bodybuilder looking to add mass. I wouldn't tell a bodybuilder he's 'cheating' because he uses one thing or the next to further his physique, but that's just me...
Personally, I chose WLS after trying countless yo-yo diets with failed results. I'd lose 50lbs and gain 70...I knew this would work, however, and I made my mind up in 2009 to forever change my life, and that's what I did. I thank God everyday for the life he has given me and I wouldn't change anything in it, from before, how I got here, and now.
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The end result looks good. But I can't shake the feeling that bariatric surgery is cheating. I'm trying it the old-fashioned way (from 310), and I would love such a "little" push myself.
It's not cheating. There are folks who aren't successful at losing weight after this surgery because they actually do cheat. Theweightisover is obviously committed to his goals. He deserves much credit for doing whatever he needed to achieve them.
After skin as been stretched too much, it will never shrink back. The only option for many people who are successful at changing their life and appearance is surgery. Props to Theweightisover for all his success at getting healthy, looking great and living his dream.
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It's not cheating. There are folks who aren't successful at losing weight after this surgery because they actually do cheat. Theweightisover is obviously commented to his goals.
I respectfully disagree. It's a foolproof way of losing weight. Sure some (most even) fail in the long run because of a messed up relationship with food. But this always works to a degree. It's not like taking t3 and clen, where those help, but you still have to have your diet on point.
I do realize it is a slippery slope. And I do applaud the results. But I would be much more appreciative if it had been achieved without surgery. Because to me surgery is one step too far, where pills and potions are (somewhat) acceptable.
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Phreak that's actually, literally, 100% incorrect. I have led dozens of people to WLS (directly and indirectly) because they see my results and immediately think it'll work. 2 people specifically have had the same surgery and lost a total of 40lbs each....FORTY POUNDS....to say it is "foolproof" is ludicrous. In fact, the phrase "...weight loss surgery as a foolproof way to lose weight vs using it as a tool" is the staple quote/reason I created my website.
People who rely solely on a surgery, a pill, or any other factors as a means to an end have already set themselves up for major failure. Case in point, if WLS was the 'easy way out' or 'foolproof', why are there not thousands of post surgery people walking around with transformations like or better than mine?
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Phreak that's actually, literally, 100% incorrect. I have led dozens of people to WLS (directly and indirectly) because they see my results and immediately think it'll work. 2 people specifically have had the same surgery and lost a total of 40lbs each....FORTY POUNDS....to say it is "foolproof" is ludicrous. In fact, the phrase "...weight loss surgery as a foolproof way to lose weight vs using it as a tool" is the staple quote/reason I created my website.
People who rely solely on a surgery, a pill, or any other factors as a means to an end have already set themselves up for major failure. Case in point, if WLS was the 'easy way out' or 'foolproof', why are there not thousands of post surgery people walking around with transformations like or better than mine?
I stand by what I said: weight loss surgery is guaranteed to make people lose weight. Show me one case of one patient ever who did not lose weight. Nowhere did I say it was going to be ALL bodyfat. But it is nigh (if not completely impossible) not to lose weight this way. Where it would be possible to not lose weight even when taking tren/t3/clen/dnp/etc.
So yes, it is a foolproof way of losing weight. And it makes further weight loss and maintenance much easier. Do you deny it? If so, then tell me this: why did you not do it without surgery, if the surgery is such a minor aspect of your success?
Do many people fail? Certainly. I've read about many cases, because I too considered surgery a few years ago. But I'm not vain enough to risk a .5% chance of dying on the operating table just to be able to flex my abs on camera.
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Before we commence to an argument, lol, I will 100% agree with you that people need to change their behavior as it relates to food addictions, mentally, more so than relying on a surgery alone to lose weight. This is why so many people fail after WLS.
I see what you're saying and will agree that WLS will HELP jumpstart a transformation, but no, it is not 100% guaranteed. It's a proven fact. Go to thinnertimes or other WLS websites and see the countless people who have failed. If you use it properly, as a tool, then yes it is very successful, but if you don't put in 100% and change EVERYTHING, it will not work. Again, you can't just rely on a surgery without effort. (I know of a lady just two weeks ago who had WLS and had a family member sneak her in a burger king whopper while she was 1 day post op, in the hospital...)
In addition, I am now bulking (4,000cals per day)and can eat anything I want. If I did not lift and keep my diet in check (even when clean bulking), I would gain it all back by way of fat.
I'm not cynical, nor am I at all offended at your or anyone else's comments if they're negative towards my transformation personally. In fact, you can't even tell I had surgery anymore, and if I wanted to, I could bury it down and never bring it up again...I'm making a point now to educate those that were like me, and to stick up for them when people don't give them the credit they deserve. It's unfair to categorize a person's success into a surgery, just the same as it is to look down on any IFBB and categorize their wins based on usage.
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There is no such thing a building muscle naturally. Only bb drugs build muscle.....hey, Getbig says so.
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Incredible transformation!!
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Galeniko, I think you're confusing weight loss surgery with liposuction. WLS does not remove any fat from the body.
Weight Loss Surgery- not cheating. Gear- not cheating. Synthol/implants-cheating.
my 2 cents...
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Haha, if I had a dime for every time I heard weight loss surgery was 'cheating', or better yet, I got my 'muscles' because I got surgery.
I commend you on your weight loss efforts and hope you achieve your goals Phreak, but please don't think that any type of bariatric surgery is the easy way out, or 'little' push you would need. Since my transformation, I have given countless talks at weight loss seminars and the biggest obstacle I've faced have been naysayers who think the same way. I've kept an open mind throughout the entire process because of this.
Weight Loss Surgery for a morbidly obese person is to "cheating" as steroids are to a bodybuilder looking to add mass. I wouldn't tell a bodybuilder he's 'cheating' because he uses one thing or the next to further his physique, but that's just me...
Personally, I chose WLS after trying countless yo-yo diets with failed results. I'd lose 50lbs and gain 70...I knew this would work, however, and I made my mind up in 2009 to forever change my life, and that's what I did. I thank God everyday for the life he has given me and I wouldn't change anything in it, from before, how I got here, and now.
You could have just ate around 2500 calories and saved yourself the hassle. There is nothing else to any of it other than that.
I hope this helps.
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So is it still considered cheating if the stomach inevitably stretches and doesn't stay small? (which happens, otherwise they'd just die in a year due to malnutrition).
If WLS reduces the size of the stomach for an average of 6 months, and within that time frame someone loses X amount of weight, you consider it cheating. If they gain all of the weight back within the next 6 months, they've spent 12 months on a yo-yo diet, have they not?
So under your theory, dieting in itself is cheating. ::) Same as a dbol/test user gaining 20lbs in 2 months, cycling off, and losing 15lbs. So gear is cheating.
So essentially, your opinion is anyone doing anything other than eating things naturally produced in our surrounding environment is "cheating" in life.
Yowza...
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I respectfully disagree. It's a foolproof way of losing weight. Sure some (most even) fail in the long run because of a messed up relationship with food. But this always works to a degree. It's not like taking t3 and clen, where those help, but you still have to have your diet on point.
I do realize it is a slippery slope. And I do applaud the results. But I would be much more appreciative if it had been achieved without surgery. Because to me surgery is one step too far, where pills and potions are (somewhat) acceptable.
How is it foolproof if some folks fail?
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ok, reducing stomach,then.is cheating.
simply because afterwards theres not so much room for food and epic binging left.
to reduce stomach by dieting(it happens), takes extreme willpower and effort.
Have you ever been obese? If not, you likely do not know what you are talking about?
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Phreak that's actually, literally, 100% incorrect. I have led dozens of people to WLS (directly and indirectly) because they see my results and immediately think it'll work. 2 people specifically have had the same surgery and lost a total of 40lbs each....FORTY POUNDS....to say it is "foolproof" is ludicrous. In fact, the phrase "...weight loss surgery as a foolproof way to lose weight vs using it as a tool" is the staple quote/reason I created my website.
People who rely solely on a surgery, a pill, or any other factors as a means to an end have already set themselves up for major failure. Case in point, if WLS was the 'easy way out' or 'foolproof', why are there not thousands of post surgery people walking around with transformations like or better than mine?
How is Phreak 100% correct when he suggests it is a foolproof weight loss method? If it were foolproof, everyone who has the surgery would lose weight, which is not the case. The surgery helps folks, like you, who are committed to changing their lives.
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all natural training does is condition the muscle you can sustain naturally
no such thing as natural bodybuilding
clueless noob fucks go mad when i bring this great truth to them
10lbs of muscle is all you can gain from natural lifting
"10lbs of muscle is all you can can from natural lifting".....added to list of Getbig truths!!
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congrats adam
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I stand by what I said: weight loss surgery is guaranteed to make people lose weight. Show me one case of one patient ever who did not lose weight. Nowhere did I say it was going to be ALL bodyfat. But it is nigh (if not completely impossible) not to lose weight this way. Where it would be possible to not lose weight even when taking tren/t3/clen/dnp/etc.
So yes, it is a foolproof way of losing weight. And it makes further weight loss and maintenance much easier. Do you deny it? If so, then tell me this: why did you not do it without surgery, if the surgery is such a minor aspect of your success?
Do many people fail? Certainly. I've read about many cases, because I too considered surgery a few years ago. But I'm not vain enough to risk a .5% chance of dying on the operating table just to be able to flex my abs on camera.
Check out these links:
http://voices.yahoo.com/why-people-gain-weight-after-gastric-bypass-5807230.html (http://voices.yahoo.com/why-people-gain-weight-after-gastric-bypass-5807230.html)
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Fitness/story?id=4444057&page=1#.UdnFBZ3n8qI (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Fitness/story?id=4444057&page=1#.UdnFBZ3n8qI)
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20150159,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20150159,00.ht)
Granted, most people seem to keep some of the weight off so technically, you are correct gastric bypass surgery works in most cases. There are always exceptions though.
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Who gives a shit what he did. Imagine how he changed his life.
"Willpower", "cheating"?? Who gives a shit. Even if he decided on an easier route
then that only makes him smarter.
It's like a bb competition. No one cares, or should care, whether the winner did more/less
drugs than the next guy. What matters is what you see.
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this is not even debatable
ask any weightlifting scholar
oh, no arguments here!
I'd actually love to hear more of these undebatable truths from weightlifting scholars.
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How is Phreak 100% correct when he suggests it is a foolproof weight loss method? If it were foolproof, everyone who has the surgery would lose weight, which is not the case. The surgery helps folks, like you, who are committed to changing their lives.
Prime, was that directed at me? If so, you misread what I said...I said he was 100% Incorrect....I don't agree with his stance....
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Who gives a shit what he did. Imagine how he changed his life.
"Willpower", "cheating"?? Who gives a shit. Even if he decided on an easier route
then that only makes him smarter.
It's like a bb competition. No one cares, or should care, whether the winner did more/less
drugs than the next guy. What matters is what you see.
well said.galeniko seems to think its a competition who siffers the most on a diet.
Cheating lol, coming from a guy that takes steroids, chesting against who galeniko?
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Prime, was that directed at me? If so, you misread what I said...I said he was 100% Incorrect....I don't agree with his stance....
My mistake. Obviously, I misread your post. Better get my glasses checked, huh?
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I don't know Prime, if you wear glasses you're cheating at reading ;D
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Using binoculars for bird watching is cheating.
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oh, no arguments here!
I'd actually love to hear more of these undebatable truths from weightlifting scholars.
read the 1972 official year book of russian weightlifting
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Using binoculars for bird watching is cheating.
AHAAHAHAHAH!!!
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congrats adam
The guy is acting like the second coming of christ all because he did something he should have done anyways.
People who want praise for losing fat baffle me. Its not hard or difficult in any way whatsoever.
Lets review:
1. You can eat anything you want to make up your calories.
2. You could easily eat 2000-3000 calories and make it to single digit body fat eventually. The number of calories will vary but not that much from that range. Of course you could always eat less.
3. Why is this considered difficult? ???
People are morons.
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The guy is acting like the second coming of christ all because he did something he should have done anyways.
People who want praise for losing fat baffle me. Its not hard or difficult in any way whatsoever.
Lets review:
1. You can eat anything you want to make up your calories.
2. You could easily eat 2000-3000 calories and make it to single digit body fat eventually. The number of calories will vary but not that much from that range. Of course you could always eat less.
3. Why is this considered difficult? ???
People are morons.
How am I acting like Christ when I'm scrolling through threads and see that someone randomly posted MY picture? I stated above, it's not about ME personally, it's for all the people who struggled with their weight and made a transformation, only to be ridiculed for how they attained their goals. In the end, do you really care about any of this?
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How am I acting like Christ when I'm scrolling through threads and see that someone randomly posted MY picture? I stated above, it's not about ME personally, it's for all the people who struggled with their weight and made a transformation, only to be ridiculed for how they attained their goals. In the end, do you really care about any of this?
I don`t care one bit actually. I prefer people to be obese to be honest with you. It gives you much leverage over them, so much that you control them any way you see fit.
Why do you give talks at "seminars" about fat people and fat loss. What is there to say? Eat less, around 2000 calories, anything you want.
What more is there really?
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not natual anyone willing to have plastic surgery will take the a few pills plus imo he just doesnt look natural
A. if had great genetics and drive would have never been like he was
B. took the easy way out but its still a great accompilshment fake natural or not
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it appears the beard and chest hair are just took make him look like a natural and make the triumph more special. Still good job. Come on wheres the big guns at to run this guy down lol I bet gh15(nasser) is rolling in his grave :D
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The seminars are for persons interested in getting WLS and are set up through a hospital in my area. I speak about several things pertaining to diet, nutrition and exercise as it relates to post-op care. So many people go from one extreme to the other, which takes a toll on the average person who isn't ready for it. WLS has about a 33% true "success" rate, in that 1/3 of the people use it as a tool and get out of it what they hoped. Another third do not lose, or gain a significant amount of weight back after the initial loss, mainly due to emotional and mental issues surrounding the obesity in the first place. The other third are 'successful' per se with the surgery because they lose weight, but find that they are caught in that 'extreme' where they FEAR calories and fear weight gain, so much so that they become the polar opposite and yet the exact same...they're on the opposite end of the spectrum physically, and yet they're damaging themselves just as much by being so malnourished.
To answer your question, I touch on all of the above and give insight on how to live post-op, based on my own experiences. Again, this is why I've said I've personally seen so many people come and go through WLS based on what they 'thought' would happen and utterly fail. Nothing in life is a guarantee...
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I agree you have most likely had a positive infulence on many people.
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The seminars are for persons interested in getting WLS and are set up through a hospital in my area. I speak about several things pertaining to diet, nutrition and exercise as it relates to post-op care. So many people go from one extreme to the other, which takes a toll on the average person who isn't ready for it. WLS has about a 33% true "success" rate, in that 1/3 of the people use it as a tool and get out of it what they hoped. Another third do not lose, or gain a significant amount of weight back after the initial loss, mainly due to emotional and mental issues surrounding the obesity in the first place. The other third are 'successful' per se with the surgery because they lose weight, but find that they are caught in that 'extreme' where they FEAR calories and fear weight gain, so much so that they become the polar opposite and yet the exact same...they're on the opposite end of the spectrum physically, and yet they're damaging themselves just as much by being so malnourished.
To answer your question, I touch on all of the above and give insight on how to live post-op, based on my own experiences. Again, this is why I've said I've personally seen so many people come and go through WLS based on what they 'thought' would happen and utterly fail. Nothing in life is a guarantee...
I can guarantee nobody needs weight loss surgery if they eat 2000 calories day in and day out of whatever they like.
They may need the surgery to fix the skin, but they WILL NOT need the surgery to lose any weight or to keep it off.
Sorry, its just nonsense.
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I'm not arguing the necessity of WLS. WLS is only deemed a medical necessity in certain situations. Mine was a personal decision, not a medical one. All I am arguing is the claim that WLS is an 'easy way out' and/or easy in general, which is not the case. Only people who have not had the surgery, or those that are not fully educated to it, will say such nonsense.
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I'm back doin my standing one arm dumbell concentration curl with 180 lb dumbell, yeah I can curl his body weight with one arm......I don't think he's gona catch up anytime soon, his bodyfat % won't save his ass in true iron pumpers world!
Cswol owning alot of people's minds around here, and strong as hell to boot.
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I think a person should do what ever it takes to get where they need to be not only in the gym but in life. Drive seems to be a rare thing now a days
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Congrats TheWeightsOver. At the end of the day you did what you needed to do, don't get hung up on arguing how you got it done.
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ah. I see where the 'natural' end of it comes into play here. not anabolics. but surgery.
interesting.
surgery is just as much a non natural application of available technology much the same as anabolic usage.
I'd actually consider surgery to be a worse transgression than anabolic usage given that no discipline is required to lose weight surgically, whereas mountains of discipline are still required to lose weight on anabolics.
that being said, I congratulate the OP in changing his body for the better. it's allowed him a new lease on life regardless the path taken and to me that's what it's about. the fact he's maintaining his losses and even bettering himself and striving to stay in shape or get into better shape is awesome.
I'd share a radically different view were he not doing this.
but 'natural'? not by a fucking longshot.
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Who gives a shit what he did. Imagine how he changed his life.
"Willpower", "cheating"?? Who gives a shit. Even if he decided on an easier route
then that only makes him smarter.
It's like a bb competition. No one cares, or should care, whether the winner did more/less
drugs than the next guy. What matters is what you see.
Boom!
Also, is the guy with the beard weightisover?
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I'm not the OP or the bearded guy, my picture was posted (not by me) 1/2 way down the 1st page, so I chimed in and kinda hijacked the thread. I have no clue who the bearded guy is.
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I'm not the OP or the bearded guy, my picture was posted (not by me) 1/2 way down the 1st page, so I chimed in and kinda hijacked the thread. I have no clue who the bearded guy is.
great transformation
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I don't know Prime, if you wear glasses you're cheating at reading ;D
What if I switch to contacts? ;D
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I can guarantee nobody needs weight loss surgery if they eat 2000 calories day in and day out of whatever they like.
They may need the surgery to fix the skin, but they WILL NOT need the surgery to lose any weight or to keep it off.
Sorry, its just nonsense.
Have you ever been obese? Are you a dietician? I can lose weight whenever I chose, not everyone is this lucky....and it's not all about willpower either.
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I'm not arguing the necessity of WLS. WLS is only deemed a medical necessity in certain situations. Mine was a personal decision, not a medical one. All I am arguing is the claim that WLS is an 'easy way out' and/or easy in general, which is not the case. Only people who have not had the surgery, or those that are not fully educated to it, will say such nonsense.
Amd my stance remains: if you haven't lost all that weight through dieting, you have no idea how hard that is. You clearly failed at dieting down from 330, otherwise you wouldn't have opted for surgery. There are people who actually lose as much or more weight by actual dieting, so I respect their efforts much more. Hell, Jared from Subway deserves more respect.
Again, not that I'm saying you did nothing. I know how hard dieting can be when monstrously obese. But I can only imagine how easy my life would be if I wasn't ravenously hungry every second of every day. Even just a three month reprieve from the hunger would allow me to lose shitloads of weight more quickly. So I'm with TA on this one.
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Have you ever been obese? Are you a dietician? I can lose weight whenever I chose, not everyone is this lucky....and it's not all about willpower either.
Bollocks. Yes, it is all about willpower. I used to make similar excuses about myself. And yes, for some it will be much harder than others. Imagine being 300 lbs of fat, moderately active (lifting and daily cardio) and not losing weight on 2000 kcal. At that point I considered surgery myself. But you know what worked? Reducing calories even further. Yes, it sucks, eating 1500 kcal on average for 3 FUCKING YEARS. But it does work. Nobody stays fat eating nothing.
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To 'theweightsover' just wanted to chime in buddy and say well done for the transformation, can't have been easy no matter how you went about it.
Good for you man, enjoy the extra 10 years of your life you've probably gained lol!
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Have you ever been obese? Are you a dietician? I can lose weight whenever I chose, not everyone is this lucky....and it's not all about willpower either.
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Explain to me how someone can be magically fat eating 1600-1800 calories a day for example.
I`d like to hear this bullshit.
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Thank you Cyp!
Phreak...You realize after surgery you're held to a certain diet, right? I think you have this notion that WLS is a magic fix that requires zero work, and again, if that were the case, it WOULD be a 100% success (your theory was bunked a few pages back). There's a reason it doesn't work at all for people, and a reason that people gain their weight back...you're still held to a specific low cal/low carb/low fat/low sugar diet (for a certain period of time before the effects wear off). It is up to the patient to make the surgery work for them, and use it as a weight loss tool, as it is intended. Same can be said for dietary supplements. If you take Oxy Elite Pro and don't change your eating habits, nothing happens. If you have surgery and don't change your eating habits, nothing happens. Thus, a strict diet is created. But that doesn't mean you HAVE to follow it.
Quick story...(and I apologize for anyone that comes in this thread and sees me preaching a bunch of crap. It wasn't my intentions until I started getting on tangents. But I digress...)
I researched gastric bypass for about a year prior to getting it (all while dieting because I still struggled with trying every diet known to man with failed result). When I was 2 weeks post-op, I knew from research, and from being told a million times, that my stomach could now only hold the size of my thumb. Subsequently, I could only eat mashed or pureed foods at this point.
Not having tackled my mental downfalls and obsession/addiction of food at this point, I caved and ate an entire quesadilla. That right there proved to me that although yes, surgery is a physical change that alters your genetic makeup, I personally believe a larger portion of success from WLS comes from a mental aspect. All that time I had been told I'd die and keel over etc if I ate the wrong thing, and I sat and devoured a whole quesadilla in one sitting, 'defying all odds' as they'd say...It showed me that surgery was not the 'foolproof' way to lose weight.
Point being, a surgery, a pill, a shot, a steady diet of subway...it all takes WORK. People claiming it doesn't take hard work have zero business forming an opinion based on zero experience or knowledge.
For what it's worth (and for the 0.5% who care to see), here's another picture of my total transformation through the ups and downs (literally).
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damn!
that's a huge difference btw 66 and 83 :o
you just gave me some good inspiration, thanks brother
and good work doing that transformation man :)
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To 'theweightsover' just wanted to chime in buddy and say well done for the transformation, can't have been easy no matter how you went about it.
Good for you man, enjoy the extra 10 years of your life you've probably gained lol!
but but but galeniko said he was cheating ::)
Great job weightsover. Amazing transformation.
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all natural training does is condition the muscle you can sustain naturally
no such thing as natural bodybuilding
clueless noob fucks go mad when i bring this great truth to them
10lbs of muscle is all you can gain from natural lifting
Dr. Greg Ellis said this years ago.
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Thank you Cyp!
Phreak...You realize after surgery you're held to a certain diet, right? I think you have this notion that WLS is a magic fix that requires zero work, and again, if that were the case, it WOULD be a 100% success (your theory was bunked a few pages back). There's a reason it doesn't work at all for people, and a reason that people gain their weight back...you're still held to a specific low cal/low carb/low fat/low sugar diet (for a certain period of time before the effects wear off). It is up to the patient to make the surgery work for them, and use it as a weight loss tool, as it is intended. Same can be said for dietary supplements. If you take Oxy Elite Pro and don't change your eating habits, nothing happens. If you have surgery and don't change your eating habits, nothing happens. Thus, a strict diet is created. But that doesn't mean you HAVE to follow it.
Quick story...(and I apologize for anyone that comes in this thread and sees me preaching a bunch of crap. It wasn't my intentions until I started getting on tangents. But I digress...)
I researched gastric bypass for about a year prior to getting it (all while dieting because I still struggled with trying every diet known to man with failed result). When I was 2 weeks post-op, I knew from research, and from being told a million times, that my stomach could now only hold the size of my thumb. Subsequently, I could only eat mashed or pureed foods at this point.
Not having tackled my mental downfalls and obsession/addiction of food at this point, I caved and ate an entire quesadilla. That right there proved to me that although yes, surgery is a physical change that alters your genetic makeup, I personally believe a larger portion of success from WLS comes from a mental aspect. All that time I had been told I'd die and keel over etc if I ate the wrong thing, and I sat and devoured a whole quesadilla in one sitting, 'defying all odds' as they'd say...It showed me that surgery was not the 'foolproof' way to lose weight.
Point being, a surgery, a pill, a shot, a steady diet of subway...it all takes WORK. People claiming it doesn't take hard work have zero business forming an opinion based on zero experience or knowledge.
For what it's worth (and for the 0.5% who care to see), here's another picture of my total transformation through the ups and downs (literally).
Uh, are you aware that you could eat quesadillas every single day for the rest of your life and be in single digit bodyfat?
It makes fuck all difference what you eat. Also, are you still a mental case who thinks they have to eat certain foods. Do you label foods as "clean"?
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I am aware of "IIFYM" and losing weight, however, I think eating chicken tits and broccoli vs quesadillas everyday is better for my body.
That being said, I don't go crazy on my diet unless I'm cutting for a show. Right now I'm "bulking"...which means I only hit a certain number of grams of protein, be it from chicken...protein powder...or the 3 chili dogs I'm eating right now :o
I don't get insane about foods because I now know how to properly eat. If I want donuts, I eat them. I compensate in the gym.
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Uh, are you aware that you could eat quesadillas every single day for the rest of your life and be in single digit bodyfat?
It makes fuck all difference what you eat. Also, are you still a mental case who thinks they have to eat certain foods. Do you label foods as "clean"?
Are you saying "TheCock'sLover" is the type of Broscientist that turns down a small slice of homemade baked vanilla cheesecake at a family barbeque, because it's "Empty calories", and then proceeds to eat 2000kcals of chicken breast covered in low fat dressing and then holds a 3 hour vacum pose before going home and vomiting Adam?
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It seems to me you're jumping in and trying to steal the bearded dude's thunder. You really just had to make this thread all about you.
he is not the bearded man
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I am aware of "IIFYM" and losing weight, however, I think eating chicken tits and broccoli vs quesadillas everyday is better for my body.
That being said, I don't go crazy on my diet unless I'm cutting for a show. Right now I'm "bulking"...which means I only hit a certain number of grams of protein, be it from chicken...protein powder...or the 3 chili dogs I'm eating right now :o
I don't get insane about foods because I now know how to properly eat. If I want donuts, I eat them. I compensate in the gym.
Who the fuck said anything about IIFYM. I believe that is pointless as well. Just pick your calorie amount and don`t worry about Protein, Fat or Carbs. It won`t make a bit of difference whatsoever.
Fuck IIFYM, there is no point to that useless approach. Its not necessary.
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Are you saying "TheCock'sLover" is the type of Broscientist that turns down a small slice of homemade baked vanilla cheesecake at a family barbeque, because it's "Empty calories", and then proceeds to eat 2000kcals of chicken breast covered in low fat dressing and then holds a 3 hour vacum pose before going home and vomiting Adam?
Hhahah thats precisely what I am saying. I am also saying that given the choice of sucking a cock attached to someone with cerebral palsy versus eating a meat lovers pizza, he is going to go with the retarded penis 10 times out of 10.
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Hhahah thats precisely what I am saying. I am also saying that given the choice of sucking a cock attached to someone with cerebral palsy versus eating a meat lovers pizza, he is going to go with the retarded penis 10 times out of 10.
Adam
are you annoyed that other members are trying to profit out of your principles
seems most of the stuff is what you have been saying for years
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Are you saying "TheCock'sLover" is the type of Broscientist that turns down a small slice of homemade baked vanilla cheesecake at a family barbeque, because it's "Empty calories", and then proceeds to eat 2000kcals of chicken breast covered in low fat dressing and then holds a 3 hour vacum pose before going home and vomiting Adam?
Hahahaha - so beautifully cruel ;D
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My fault, I assumed the whole IIFYM thing regarded just calories, not P/F/C...I was implying yes, if you are to lose weight based on a 1,000 cal diet, you can eat whatever you want that totals 1,000. However, the clear and obvious answer is that chicken/fish/sweet potatoes and whatever else are better for you than 1,000 cals of chocolate cake. Disagree?
Also, I'm lost on the last few posts...my name is Adam. Were you guys asking me if I was upset that people are using my principles, or is someone else named Adam?
And was the "Empty Calories" comment directed at me?? Because no, I don't turn down 2,000 calories of cheesecake to eat 2,000 calories of chicken...I eat them both.
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Bollocks. Yes, it is all about willpower. I used to make similar excuses about myself. And yes, for some it will be much harder than others. Imagine being 300 lbs of fat, moderately active (lifting and daily cardio) and not losing weight on 2000 kcal. At that point I considered surgery myself. But you know what worked? Reducing calories even further. Yes, it sucks, eating 1500 kcal on average for 3 FUCKING YEARS. But it does work. Nobody stays fat eating nothing.
I am not going to disagree with you. I have never been where you have, so I haven't had to test the strength of my willpower to the degree you have. I can say that I am impressed with what you've achieved though. Good job! Unfortunately, not everyone is as dedicated or lucky as you when it comes to that test.
My wife has fought weight issues since she was a small child. She has tried everything to lose weight over the last five decades I've known her with varying success. She has not had gastric bypass surgery. Diets work at first but don't have any sustainability with her. Eventually, old habits prevail. It has been heartbreaking at times. To suggest that she simply doesn't possess will power would be inaccurate and insulting. She did quit smoking using nothing but willpower many years ago.
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Explain to me how someone can be magically fat eating 1600-1800 calories a day for example.
I`d like to hear this bullshit.
Assuming they are healthy and active, obesity probably doesn't happen on those few calories except in some rare instances. Some folks are not able to be active enough to burn even that many calories in a day, which means weight gain. There is no magic to getting fat. If there were, millions or even billions of people would not be obese. For many the problem starts before they are born and continues all their lives. Short of locking people up in a concentration camp, there is no magic that will make them thin either.
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http://helpmeloseweight-coach.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/will-i-get-loose-skin-if-i-lose-fat.jpg
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg
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(http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/preopstomach.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af299/RobinBacon/abz.jpg)
Someone alert the authority's, John Romano's chest and nipples have been found.
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ZZ Top looking swole
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(http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/zz_top2crop1.jpg)
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I am not going to disagree with you. I have never been where you have, so I haven't had to test the strength of my willpower to the degree you have. I can say that I am impressed with what you've achieved though. Good job! Unfortunately, not everyone is as dedicated or lucky as you when it comes to that test.
My wife has fought weight issues since she was a small child. She has tried everything to lose weight over the last five decades I've known her with varying success. She has not had gastric bypass surgery. Diets work at first but don't have any sustainability with her. Eventually, old habits prevail. It has been heartbreaking at times. To suggest that she simply doesn't possess will power would be inaccurate and insulting. She did quit smoking using nothing but willpower many years ago.
how did her parents, grandparents look? How was her family life in terms of eating? We're they big eaters, low on exercise? This can help? I think there are studies that show that if one parent is overweight, then chances are high for the children to be as well.
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That first guy done looked like he killed two or three people
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My fault, I assumed the whole IIFYM thing regarded just calories, not P/F/C...I was implying yes, if you are to lose weight based on a 1,000 cal diet, you can eat whatever you want that totals 1,000. However, the clear and obvious answer is that chicken/fish/sweet potatoes and whatever else are better for you than 1,000 cals of chocolate cake. Disagree?
Also, I'm lost on the last few posts...my name is Adam. Were you guys asking me if I was upset that people are using my principles, or is someone else named Adam?
And was the "Empty Calories" comment directed at me?? Because no, I don't turn down 2,000 calories of cheesecake to eat 2,000 calories of chicken...I eat them both.
true adonis = adam the jew aka my precious.
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How did the loose skin issue get resolved....surgery?
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yeah any after loose skin surgery pics now?
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I was around 180 or so before the skin surgery (a Circumferential Body Lift). Due to inactivity for over 6 months (and the fact that this was the absolute worst surgery ever...ever, ever, ever), I atrophied down to 156lbs. Anyway, here are some pics before/after the surgery.
Also, aside from wanting the skin surgery for cosmetic reasons, it was a necessity because the loose skin began folding over my hips and my duty belt rubbed against it everyday (I'm a cop) and it began giving me sores...
The first are a couple from the skin surgery, the others are for laughs and/or all you getbiggers to trash me...
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I was around 180 or so before the skin surgery (a Circumferential Body Lift). Due to inactivity for over 6 months (and the fact that this was the absolute worst surgery ever...ever, ever, ever), I atrophied down to 156lbs. Anyway, here are some pics before/after the surgery.
Also, aside from wanting the skin surgery for cosmetic reasons, it was a necessity because the loose skin began folding over my hips and my duty belt rubbed against it everyday (I'm a cop) and it began giving me sores...
The first are a couple from the skin surgery, the others are for laughs and/or all you getbiggers to trash me...
2011 to 2013 look good,,in a suit your mugging like a jack ass and adopting your new persona,,,
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how did her parents, grandparents look? How was her family life in terms of eating? We're they big eaters, low on exercise? This can help? I think there are studies that show that if one parent is overweight, then chances are high for the children to be as well.
Her mother and father were average built folks as were all her siblings. Her brother, who is 6'5" got big, but not particularly fat when he was middle-aged. My wife's parents were very wealthy, they tried everything regardless of the cost to help her slim down. As for eating habits, with five kids and two adults, the maid served meals family style, so yes there were seconds if folks wanted them.
Personally, I think her parents made too much of her pudginess. Inadvertently they gave her attention for being fat, albeit negative attention. When we were getting married, he father told her that I didn't love her because no man could love a fat woman. How crazy was that?
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I was around 180 or so before the skin surgery (a Circumferential Body Lift). Due to inactivity for over 6 months (and the fact that this was the absolute worst surgery ever...ever, ever, ever), I atrophied down to 156lbs. Anyway, here are some pics before/after the surgery.
Also, aside from wanting the skin surgery for cosmetic reasons, it was a necessity because the loose skin began folding over my hips and my duty belt rubbed against it everyday (I'm a cop) and it began giving me sores...
The first are a couple from the skin surgery, the others are for laughs and/or all you getbiggers to trash me...
I looked up circumferential body lift on the Internet. The photos are amazing. It is clear why this would be very painful following the surgery. You don't appear to have the scarring that many of the folks in the photos did. Do you know why this is? Did you have to wear a compression garment following the surgery to help with the healing?
There is a young man who works out at the gym who must have been very large at one time. He has scars from a chest lift. Obviously, you didn't carry as much fat in your chest area as your stomach.
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I am not going to disagree with you. I have never been where you have, so I haven't had to test the strength of my willpower to the degree you have. I can say that I am impressed with what you've achieved though. Good job! Unfortunately, not everyone is as dedicated or lucky as you when it comes to that test.
My wife has fought weight issues since she was a small child. She has tried everything to lose weight over the last five decades I've known her with varying success. She has not had gastric bypass surgery. Diets work at first but don't have any sustainability with her. Eventually, old habits prevail. It has been heartbreaking at times. To suggest that she simply doesn't possess will power would be inaccurate and insulting. She did quit smoking using nothing but willpower many years ago.
Do you think she emotionally eats to dull the pain of knowing her husband's been swallowing sausage in a men's bathhouse?
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Congrats Adam!
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Do you think she emotionally eats to dull the pain of knowing her husband's been swallowing sausage in a men's bathhouse?
You don't know me and you don't know my wife. Therefore, you comment makes you out to be a complete asshole.
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Do you think she emotionally eats to dull the pain of knowing her husband's been swallowing sausage in a men's bathhouse?
mean joke but i sure as hell lolled
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I looked up circumferential body lift on the Internet. The photos are amazing. It is clear why this would be very painful following the surgery. You don't appear to have the scarring that many of the folks in the photos did. Do you know why this is? Did you have to wear a compression garment following the surgery to help with the healing?
There is a young man who works out at the gym who must have been very large at one time. He has scars from a chest lift. Obviously, you didn't carry as much fat in your chest area as your stomach.
The surgery itself was outpatient, done in their office. After going through it, I'm still baffled as to how they can get away with sending you home after such an invasive surgery. In the end, I had over 2,000 stitches. I was sent home with 2 drain tubes that had to be dumped 2x day for over 2 weeks. The doctor admitted he should've sent me home with 3, maybe 4, because of all of the swelling and fluid I retained early on.
I was physically immobile and couldn't move without heavy assistance (thank God I have an understand, smoking hot wife). I actually popped a stitch trying to get up on my own and bled everywhere, for over an hour. My house looked like a murder scene...I had to be driven back to the office and get it taken care of. For several months my nerve endings would 'wake back up' and fire off, causing intense stabbing pain at random times, which was a big bowl of fun to deal with.
My scar is very, very low, to the point where when I wear a banana hammock on stage, you can't even see it. I also scar very well apparently, because it's a hairline and isn't directly noticeable anyway.
I had to wear a compression garment for several weeks, followed my compression shorts (under armor bike shorts) for another several weeks. The compression garment didn't come off for the first 2 weeks, so I never even saw the outcome until much later.
The following pics are from surgery, and the others show that even at an early age, I've wanted to be a bodybuilder...and the strange thing is, I never watched bodybuilding, I never saw a bodybuilder in real life until I met Jay Cutler when I was about 19 (9 years ago). It was always something in me that just wanted to be hyuuuuge, and one day I hope to accomplish that last goal!
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Thanks for renaming the subject, I seriously apologize for hijacking the thread. I had never thought of posting before until I randomly saw my picture on here. Sorry for taking away from....whatever the hell your internet search history reveals as to how you came up with the original picture this thread was about.... :-*
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Did they catch the savage black fellow that left your bum in such a mess?
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He's still at large, but I always keep a throw down knife with me in case I find him...
That picture does no justice to how brutal I actually looked. Unfortunately though, since the compression garment had to stay on, and because I was on another planet from pain/meds, I wasn't to keen on taking pictures at the time. I wish I had now though.
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I don't know what to think i had a rough week with the fighting the gangbangers and my mom yelling at me thinking one of the naked girls in the basement that happened to be a drawf was underage forcing me to drive to one of my apartments in a pimp car while a little tipsy after she begs me for money and i give her 500$. I did bench 225 19time during all this but don't know how good a liter of vodka is for a post workout and if that all isn't bad enough my gf came back to me and I am now at my moms house because while at the other apartment some stripper got arested coming out of my apartment for some old heroin charge and to be honest I'm a little leary of staying there after that. Thats not even counting the lady on benzos taking of of her cloths in hottopic thinking she was in the dressing room. Or getting a hello kitty statue threw at me. So how much does a weight loss surgery cost?
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Holy shit....
I've been lurking for years now, but it's time for me to finally post... I randomly happened to click on this thread and low and behold, my picture pops up!?? Thanks for sharing my 'before' picture from my transformation...here's an update for all you getbiggers who want to tear me apart...
Background info: I was 330lbs at 52% body fat, had gastric bypass and a skin surgery, went down to 156lbs (skin and bones) and worked my ass off to gain. I placed 3rd in the novice middleweight division of an NPC show in 2012, and placed 1st (novice hwt, open middle) in a show this year. I've always wanted to be a bodybuilder, ever since I could remember, and now I'm living the dream (although I'm still wenis compared to what I'd love to be eventually).
Anyway, thanks for sharing the embarrassing skin picture, lol. Always humbles me to see where I've come from...
Your nipples resemble those strange little pepperoni squares mostly found on cafeteria rectangle pizzas, not healthy, normal pepperonis. It's really rather perturbing, and I am not amused.
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No please don't apologize. A man of your importance deserves to invade someone else's thread. The original guy in the thread is a nobody compared to you. In fact we shoulf just name the whole forum after you. It's all about you nd your spam.
I told my wife last night that TheWeightsOver posted in the same thread as me and she gave me a BJ in exchange for the link!
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I told my wife last night that TheWeightsOver posted in the same thread as me and she gave me a BJ in exchange for the link!
you wish
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you wish
Hahaha ok 'O.Z.' I bet you're the type of 'Tolerant Individual' who volunteers to help steward at San Francisco Pride March, and then personalises the Council issue Hi-Vis STEWARD vest to read 'SINGLE' before turning up at 7:30am wearing only a glow stick shoved up your ass and Hello Kitty Limited Edition Birkenstock sandals, then stand at the front of the procession and start chanting "MORE MENS COCKS!!! MORE MENS COCKS!!! MORE MENS COCKS!!! to show 'solidarity' with the Gay Community, and 'respect for everyone's personal tastes' oh brother ::)
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I am a married man and my wife does not ask for exchange. Sorry to hear that. :-*
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Your nipples resemble those strange little pepperoni squares mostly found on cafeteria rectangle pizzas, not healthy, normal pepperonis. It's really rather perturbing, and I am not amused.
hahaha sorry. So you rather prefer men to have big Hershey Kiss nips?
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I am not going to disagree with you. I have never been where you have, so I haven't had to test the strength of my willpower to the degree you have. I can say that I am impressed with what you've achieved though. Good job! Unfortunately, not everyone is as dedicated or lucky as you when it comes to that test.
My wife has fought weight issues since she was a small child. She has tried everything to lose weight over the last five decades I've known her with varying success. She has not had gastric bypass surgery. Diets work at first but don't have any sustainability with her. Eventually, old habits prevail. It has been heartbreaking at times. To suggest that she simply doesn't possess will power would be inaccurate and insulting. She did quit smoking using nothing but willpower many years ago.
With all due respect, how can you say that its not a lack of will power?
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With all due respect, how can you say that its not a lack of will power?
Lol, I let that one go purely on respect for the elders.
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The surgery itself was outpatient, done in their office. After going through it, I'm still baffled as to how they can get away with sending you home after such an invasive surgery. In the end, I had over 2,000 stitches. I was sent home with 2 drain tubes that had to be dumped 2x day for over 2 weeks. The doctor admitted he should've sent me home with 3, maybe 4, because of all of the swelling and fluid I retained early on.
I was physically immobile and couldn't move without heavy assistance (thank God I have an understand, smoking hot wife). I actually popped a stitch trying to get up on my own and bled everywhere, for over an hour. My house looked like a murder scene...I had to be driven back to the office and get it taken care of. For several months my nerve endings would 'wake back up' and fire off, causing intense stabbing pain at random times, which was a big bowl of fun to deal with.
My scar is very, very low, to the point where when I wear a banana hammock on stage, you can't even see it. I also scar very well apparently, because it's a hairline and isn't directly noticeable anyway.
I had to wear a compression garment for several weeks, followed my compression shorts (under armor bike shorts) for another several weeks. The compression garment didn't come off for the first 2 weeks, so I never even saw the outcome until much later.
The following pics are from surgery, and the others show that even at an early age, I've wanted to be a bodybuilder...and the strange thing is, I never watched bodybuilding, I never saw a bodybuilder in real life until I met Jay Cutler when I was about 19 (9 years ago). It was always something in me that just wanted to be hyuuuuge, and one day I hope to accomplish that last goal!
Did you keep the skin and make a lampshade?Maybe covered a cucumber with it and then pretended you were riding red rum at the 2:30 at Ascot?
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Do you think if you did gradual weight loss you could have avoided the loose skin and painful surgery and having gone through this ordeal would you have tried gradual weight loss instead knowing what you know now?
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Do you think if you did gradual weight loss you could have avoided the loose skin and painful surgery and having gone through this ordeal would you have tried gradual weight loss instead knowing what you know now?
No, it would not have mattered how slow or fast the weight loss was, my stomach was so stretched out that it was inevitable. I had lost all of the elasticity in my skin from it being stretched out so far for so long...
I was told my stomach at the time of the initial weight loss surgery was the size of a 2 liter bottle :o
I'm not trying to 'spam' or whatever, I simply think that if this approach actually WORKS for you, why not do it? I will never regret what I did to get to where I am, and how I went about it, and I'm just 'some guy', nothing fancy, nothing special. So if I can do it, lord knows anyone else can as well, with the proper support system and knowledge.
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First of all, kudos on working hard to build your physique up, after you lost the weight. Also kudos for losing the weight - I know some here argue that the surgery means you cheated, but the bottom line is you did something about your situation and improved your life dramatically.
I have to tell you that I am floored by the result your surgery - almost to the point where I doubt that this is really you. The outcome is just stellar. I had never heard of this procedure before, but googled online and this is the second image that popped up...
(https://d1c40o0u1pbjgy.cloudfront.net/public/assets/images/460064/image_large.JPG)
Now, that clearly is a clusterfuck - and I'm not sure that clusterfuck even describes this. Hell, I'm not even sure what the fuck it is that I'm looking at there.
I'm not sure if your results are typical or what, but if they aren't, you seem to have been very lucky and if they are, plastic surgery seems to have advanced tremendously.
Do you think if you did gradual weight loss you could have avoided the loose skin and painful surgery and having gone through this ordeal would you have tried gradual weight loss instead knowing what you know now?
Perhaps it might have not been as bad, but I think there's a limit beyond which the skin is just perma-fucked. I imagine its a combination of how much it was stretched and how long it was stretched for.
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Maybe, but I always read that if the weight loss is gradual no loose skin issues....but I don't have first hand knowledge, it's just that the surgery seems so invasive.
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First of all, kudos on working hard to build your physique up, after you lost the weight. Also kudos for losing the weight - I know some here argue that the surgery means you cheated, but the bottom line is you did something about your situation and improved your life dramatically.
I have to tell you that I am floored by the result your surgery - almost to the point where I doubt that this is really you. The outcome is just stellar. I had never heard of this procedure before, but googled online and this is the second image that popped up...
(https://d1c40o0u1pbjgy.cloudfront.net/public/assets/images/460064/image_large.JPG)
Now, that clearly is a clusterfuck - and I'm not sure that clusterfuck even describes this. Hell, I'm not even sure what the fuck it is that I'm looking at there.
I'm not sure if your results are typical or what, but if they aren't, you seem to have been very lucky and if they are, plastic surgery seems to have advanced tremendously.
Perhaps it might have not been as bad, but I think there's a limit beyond which the skin is just perma-fucked. I imagine its a combination of how much it was stretched and how long it was stretched for.
I Googled this surgery and 99% of the photos are not pretty. Scary stuff. My neighbor had this surgery following liposuction. I have no idea how it turned out since her husband might object to my asking to see her scars....LOL! She is a surgical assistant to the plastic surgeon, so I would imagine he did his best work on her.
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First of all, kudos on working hard to build your physique up, after you lost the weight. Also kudos for losing the weight - I know some here argue that the surgery means you cheated, but the bottom line is you did something about your situation and improved your life dramatically.
I have to tell you that I am floored by the result your surgery - almost to the point where I doubt that this is really you. The outcome is just stellar. I had never heard of this procedure before, but googled online and this is the second image that popped up...
(https://d1c40o0u1pbjgy.cloudfront.net/public/assets/images/460064/image_large.JPG)
Now, that clearly is a clusterfuck - and I'm not sure that clusterfuck even describes this. Hell, I'm not even sure what the fuck it is that I'm looking at there.
I'm not sure if your results are typical or what, but if they aren't, you seem to have been very lucky and if they are, plastic surgery seems to have advanced tremendously.
Perhaps it might have not been as bad, but I think there's a limit beyond which the skin is just perma-fucked. I imagine its a combination of how much it was stretched and how long it was stretched for.
Thanks! I don't know if my results are typical...I know that my surgeon for the WLS as well as the skin have profited tremendously off of me (and I haven't seen a dime in it). Sometimes it pisses me off that they've labeled me the "poster child" for WLS and the like, and people get their hopes up looking at my results then put in zero effort comparatively speaking and then they're left looking like that picture above.
The pictures are somewhat smoke and mirrors, because you can still see I have loose skin around my gut, even with the surgery. The surgeon equated it to stretching a shirt...when you're standing upright, it's tight, but when you lean over, the area from top to bottom has lessened, thus creating more fabric. Does that make sense?
You can see in this picture here that although my abs are visible, the skin still flows over them...
To clarify the difference in the typical results from gastric bypass vs going beyond, the first picture on the left in the middle row is essentially what I looked like after WLS and would've remained looking like had I not started bodybuilding (cleaned up diet, lifted 6 days per week). It took forever, but I was able to change from that picture to now.
I will say though, I think I have somewhat screwed myself in following the traditional 'bulking/off season' and precontest dieting because I have started to stretch the skin back out. I don't have an HGH gut ha, but I can tell the difference by gaining and losing year after year...
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Congrats you look great. So you had a weight problem since you were very young, that sucks. Genetics is a bitch and sometimes drastic measures are needed.
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The surgery itself was outpatient, done in their office. After going through it, I'm still baffled as to how they can get away with sending you home after such an invasive surgery. In the end, I had over 2,000 stitches. I was sent home with 2 drain tubes that had to be dumped 2x day for over 2 weeks. The doctor admitted he should've sent me home with 3, maybe 4, because of all of the swelling and fluid I retained early on.
I was physically immobile and couldn't move without heavy assistance (thank God I have an understand, smoking hot wife). I actually popped a stitch trying to get up on my own and bled everywhere, for over an hour. My house looked like a murder scene...I had to be driven back to the office and get it taken care of. For several months my nerve endings would 'wake back up' and fire off, causing intense stabbing pain at random times, which was a big bowl of fun to deal with.
My scar is very, very low, to the point where when I wear a banana hammock on stage, you can't even see it. I also scar very well apparently, because it's a hairline and isn't directly noticeable anyway.
I had to wear a compression garment for several weeks, followed my compression shorts (under armor bike shorts) for another several weeks. The compression garment didn't come off for the first 2 weeks, so I never even saw the outcome until much later.
The following pics are from surgery, and the others show that even at an early age, I've wanted to be a bodybuilder...and the strange thing is, I never watched bodybuilding, I never saw a bodybuilder in real life until I met Jay Cutler when I was about 19 (9 years ago). It was always something in me that just wanted to be hyuuuuge, and one day I hope to accomplish that last goal!
Did a black fellow do that to you?
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Thanks! I don't know if my results are typical...I know that my surgeon for the WLS as well as the skin have profited tremendously off of me (and I haven't seen a dime in it). Sometimes it pisses me off that they've labeled me the "poster child" for WLS and the like, and people get their hopes up looking at my results then put in zero effort comparatively speaking and then they're left looking like that picture above.
The pictures are somewhat smoke and mirrors, because you can still see I have loose skin around my gut, even with the surgery. The surgeon equated it to stretching a shirt...when you're standing upright, it's tight, but when you lean over, the area from top to bottom has lessened, thus creating more fabric. Does that make sense?
You can see in this picture here that although my abs are visible, the skin still flows over them...
To clarify the difference in the typical results from gastric bypass vs going beyond, the first picture on the left in the middle row is essentially what I looked like after WLS and would've remained looking like had I not started bodybuilding (cleaned up diet, lifted 6 days per week). It took forever, but I was able to change from that picture to now.
I will say though, I think I have somewhat screwed myself in following the traditional 'bulking/off season' and precontest dieting because I have started to stretch the skin back out. I don't have an HGH gut ha, but I can tell the difference by gaining and losing year after year...
If there is a lesson in all of this, it would be to avoid getting obese in the first place, if at all possible. I realize this isn't always something that the average person can control, but there are people who simply allow themselves to get fat by no caring. The media blames the American diet and they are right in part. Many people rely on fast food as their mainstay diet. No way can this be healthy when consumed day in and day out. Many parents need to take more responsibility for their children's health. There have always been people who are heavier than most, but today obesity is epidemic.
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The seminars are for persons interested in getting WLS and are set up through a hospital in my area. I speak about several things pertaining to diet, nutrition and exercise as it relates to post-op care. So many people go from one extreme to the other, which takes a toll on the average person who isn't ready for it. WLS has about a 33% true "success" rate, in that 1/3 of the people use it as a tool and get out of it what they hoped. Another third do not lose, or gain a significant amount of weight back after the initial loss, mainly due to emotional and mental issues surrounding the obesity in the first place. The other third are 'successful' per se with the surgery because they lose weight, but find that they are caught in that 'extreme' where they FEAR calories and fear weight gain, so much so that they become the polar opposite and yet the exact same...they're on the opposite end of the spectrum physically, and yet they're damaging themselves just as much by being so malnourished.
To answer your question, I touch on all of the above and give insight on how to live post-op, based on my own experiences. Again, this is why I've said I've personally seen so many people come and go through WLS based on what they 'thought' would happen and utterly fail. Nothing in life is a guarantee...
you re promoting a business it seems, somewhere, someone, needs all these fat people to come see and PAY him. Cui bono?
Shut your mouth and stop spamming the bodybuilding/fitness related messageboards with your crap. We get it, you went from obese to fit; there are millions of people who do so WITHOUT paying anything, simply applying common sense toward diet and exercise. Had you stayed natural and shut your mouth i would have somewhat supported your message, but considering you then went the steroid route just show you went from one dumb extreme to another missing the balance between the two. Just another scam artist.
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you re promoting a business it seems, somewhere, someone, needs all these fat people to come see ad PAY him. Cui bono?
Shut your mouth and stop spamming the bodybuilding/fitness related messageboards with your crap. We get it, you went from obese to fit; there are millions of people who do so WITHOUT paying anything, simply applying common sense toward diet and exercise. Had you stayed natural and shut your mouth i would have somewhat supported your message, but considering you then went the steroid route just show you went from one dumb extreme to another missing the balance between the two. Just another scam artist.
What's the scam? It's not like he is the doctor who preformed the surgery. In most scams, the scammer profits. Where would he profit from his posts?
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What's the scam? It's not like he is the doctor who preformed the surgery. In most scams, the scammer profits. Where would he profit from his posts?
This...
I haven't solicited for anyone? I haven't mentioned my website once, nor my sponsors, or anyone included in my transformation.
But, as they say:
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This...
I haven't solicited for anyone? I haven't mentioned my website once, nor my sponsors, or anyone included in my transformation.
But, as they say:
Dude, just in case nobody else tells you, you're a creep. Take your loose skin, your goofy posing, your morbidly obese surgery and fuck off.
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where the hell did that come from? I'm a creep because I saw someone had posted my picture, so I come in and explain why I used to look a certain way, people ask me questions, I answer them, and now I get put through the wringer for that? Awesome...
I never once boasted and I've always stayed humble in my transformation...why? Because what I did isn't some outstanding feat, and I realize that. I was headed to an early grave and I made a change. I had a dream that I followed and accomplished. I even stated before, I'm just 'some guy', nothing special, so if I can do it, anyone can. Regardless of how you or anyone else feels, I know whole heartedly that there are people out there who are hopeless in their struggle and need the guidance, help or motivation to change their life (if they've chosen the route I did). If I can help someone based on my own experiences, I'd be a "creep" not to... Just because YOU might not need help doesn't mean that everyone else is as successful in life as you.
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where the hell did that come from? I'm a creep because I saw someone had posted my picture, so I come in and explain why I used to look a certain way, people ask me questions, I answer them, and now I get put through the wringer for that? Awesome...
I never once boasted and I've always stayed humble in my transformation...why? Because what I did isn't some outstanding feat, and I realize that. I was headed to an early grave and I made a change. I had a dream that I followed and accomplished. I even stated before, I'm just 'some guy', nothing special, so if I can do it, anyone can. Regardless of how you or anyone else feels, I know whole heartedly that there are people out there who are hopeless in their struggle and need the guidance, help or motivation to change their life (if they've chosen the route I did). If I can help someone based on my own experiences, I'd be a "creep" not to... Just because YOU might not need help doesn't mean that everyone else is as successful in life as you.
You might have fooled some of these folks but you're not fooling me. Take your spam, and GTFO.
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I'm baffled... ???
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I'm baffled... ???
dont be, this is getbig after all
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Realize this is getbig....gladiatorial combat forum...unless your blood is on the sands then chances are your shits on the walls ;D
Thick skin or GTFO is the motto...
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Realize this is getbig....gladiatorial combat forum...unless your blood is on the sands then chances are your shits on the walls ;D
Thick skin or GTFO is the motto...
Truer words were never spoken...
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Now make some vulgar comment about The Idols cum dumpster he calls mother and your training will be complete....
Enjoy the dark side.
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Now make some vulgar comment about The Idols cum dumpster he calls mother and your training will be complete....
Enjoy the dark side.
Haha, well a quick search found this little gem from the great "Idol"...Shouldn't I be saying this, idol? He can dish it but can't take it. Typical getbiggery...