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Title: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Dos Equis on July 09, 2013, 03:38:40 PM
He needs to just buy a ranch in Texas and retire. 

Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Tuesday, 09 Jul 2013
By Lisa Barron

He's giving up the Texas governor's mansion next year, but Rick Perry has his sights set on the White House, according to Republicans who say he will run for president in 2016.

Citing unidentified Texas GOP sources, the National Journal reports that despite Perry's claim that he has made no decision, he privately is spreading the word that he "definitely" will enter the race.

The Journal also reports that Perry, the longest-serving governor in Texas history, won't run again out of concern that state Attorney General Greg Abbot could beat him in the 2014 gubernatorial primary, and that could diminish his standing nationally if he decides to run in 2016.

"Abbott won’t announce for a while, but he's been telling people he's running [for governor], and Perry couldn’t take the chance Abbott could beat him," one source told the Journal, adding: "Nobody becomes president who just lost his last race."

Perry, 63, has been governor since 2000, when he succeeded George W. Bush. On Monday, he announced he would not run again.

"The time has come to pass on the mantle of leadership. Today I am announcing I will not seek re-election as governor of Texas," he said during a speech in San Antonio.

"I'll also pray and reflect and work to determine my own future path. I make this announcement with a deep sense of humility and appreciation for the time and trust the people of this state has given me."

During his unsuccessful 2012 bid for president, Perry famously stumbled during a televised Florida primary debate when he forgot the name of the third federal agency he wanted to eliminate. He recovered from the moment with an "oops" and a laugh, but dropped out of the race ahead of the South Carolina primary.

According to the Journal, Perry does not believe his "oops" led to his poor showing in 2012 and chalks up his loss to entering the race too late.

His supporters say leaving the governorship behind will give him the necessary time to prepare a presidential campaign. But not everyone is convinced it was a good move.

"He's made a terrible miscalculation," one prominent Texas GOP official told the Journal. "He thinks he's gonna be able to raise money as a lame duck. He's given up his biggest card."

Editor's Note: Weird Trick Adds $1,000 to Your Social Security Checks

Political consultant Mike Leavitt, a former chief of staff at the Republican National Committee, said Perry would be a strong candidate but just one of many high-profile names.

"It's very clear that Republicans have a tremendous crop of potential candidates for 2016, and he will have to work very hard to communicate his message to Republican primary voters," he told USA Today.

"People like [Florida Sen. Marco] Rubio, [New Jersey Gov. Chris] Christie, [Texas Sen. Ted] Cruz and [Louisiana Gov. Bobby] Jindal appeal to a wide swath of voters that will be paying attention and participating in the 2016 primary.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/texas-governor-perry-president/2013/07/09/id/514061#ixzz2YagG6NKN
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 09, 2013, 09:06:14 PM
He needs to just buy a ranch in Texas and retire. 

I can think of 3 reasons why Perry shouldn't run for president.

1) Was overwhelmed in debates,

2) had a poor grasp of the issues, and






Oops.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: tonymctones on July 09, 2013, 09:10:17 PM
yea, Im glad to hear he is retiring from gov. in Texas...not glad to hear he may run for pres
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 09, 2013, 09:20:59 PM
Fuck... seriously? Perry? I hope the GOP has the sense to tell him to buzz off. If they don't, well... fuck the GOP. As long as they keep putting up candidates who couldn't pass an interview for a substitute assistant janitor, I simply won't vote for them.

Is a serious candidate really that much to ask for?
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 09, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
Fuck... seriously? Perry? I hope the GOP has the sense to tell him to buzz off. If they don't, well... fuck the GOP. As long as they keep putting up candidates who couldn't pass an interview for a substitute assistant janitor, I simply won't vote for them.

Is a serious candidate really that much to ask for?

I'll play devils advocate here...

He looks like president.  He's had his 'step in shit moment'.  The party is ready for a TX Bush-like repub now... nobody since Bush has won the office, right?

Perry isn't a pu$$y... Whoever runs in 2016 had better be tough.  Christie is abusive, probably won't get up there.  Rubio is young and just too eager to please, a wimp.  Rand is nice, but hannity/levin will keep him out of the job.  Palin?  Pssh.  Tpaw and bachmann just too fringe.  People won't be stupid enough to believe trump for a 4th pretend run.  

In other words - WHO ELSE IS THERE?    If Hilary runs for a one-term, all-out clinton reunion tour, smart money is on her to win the election.   Jeb and other serious candidates might just sit out.  So why not Perry?   He has nothing to lose, he'll give speeches with the new profile it'll give him and make great money.  Politically, he's returing.  WHY NOT run?  He has nothing to lose.  The repubs?  well, he is a little inept and clueless on some issues, but he'll be surrounded with people telling him the answers and telling us how smart he is (lolzers).   So why not perry?  He makes sense for 2016 against hilary.  Looks like a president, acts like a Bush, and isn't a pu$$y.  Good enough!
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: tonymctones on July 09, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
I'll play devils advocate here...

He looks like president.  He's had his 'step in shit moment'.  The party is ready for a TX Bush-like repub now... nobody since Bush has won the office, right?

Perry isn't a pu$$y... Whoever runs in 2016 had better be tough.  Christie is abusive, probably won't get up there.  Rubio is young and just too eager to please, a wimp.  Rand is nice, but hannity/levin will keep him out of the job.  Palin?  Pssh.  Tpaw and bachmann just too fringe.  People won't be stupid enough to believe trump for a 4th pretend run. 

In other words - WHO ELSE IS THERE?    If Hilary runs for a one-term, all-out clinton reunion tour, smart money is on her to win the election.   Jeb and other serious candidates might just sit out.  So why not Perry?   He has nothing to lose, he'll give speeches with the new profile it'll give him and make great money.  Politically, he's returing.  WHY NOT run?  He has nothing to lose.  The repubs?  well, he is a little inept and clueless on some issues, but he'll be surrounded with people telling him the answers and telling us how smart he is (lolzers).   So why not perry?  He makes sense for 2016 against hilary.  Looks like a president, acts like a Bush, and isn't a pu$$y.  Good enough!
the one thing I will say about perry is that he is not ashamed of his positions or beliefs.

That is something the GOP needs but not from a bumbling moron, someone who can articulate their position and beliefs would be nice.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 09, 2013, 09:55:48 PM
putting up candidates who couldn't pass an interview for a substitute assistant janitor, I simply won't vote for them.

Is a serious candidate really that much to ask for?

 ;D
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Mr.1derful on July 09, 2013, 11:25:36 PM
I can think of 3 reasons why Perry shouldn't run for president.

1) Was overwhelmed in debates,

2) had a poor grasp of the issues, and







This.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 09, 2013, 11:28:16 PM
the one thing I will say about perry is that he is not ashamed of his positions or beliefs.

That is something the GOP needs but not from a bumbling moron, someone who can articulate their position and beliefs would be nice.

It's great to have someone who isn't ashamed of his positions or his beliefs, but only if those positions and beliefs are sensible and not embarrassing. And, unfortunately, many of Rick Perry's positions and beliefs are not sensible and plenty embarrassing.

That he's a bumbling moron doesn't help either. Although, I read on a newsite (don't remember off hand which and don't have an easy way of checking atm) that he's blaming his lackluster and buffoonish performance in the debates on his recovery from back surgery... yeah, you read that right.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: polychronopolous on July 09, 2013, 11:40:01 PM
The next Governer of Texas = Attorney General Greg Abbot.

You heard it here first.

Would love to see Kinky Friedman run again though. :)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 09, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
I can think of 3 reasons why Perry shouldn't run for president.

1) Was overwhelmed in debates,

2) had a poor grasp of the issues, and






Oops.

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Yeah, it really sucks what he's done for Texas. Unlike California, NY, and anyother state ran by a liberal governor or mayor. Who's states have been wildly successful.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 10, 2013, 12:11:38 AM
Yeah, it really sucks what he's done for Texas. Unlike California, NY, and anyother state ran by a liberal governor or mayor. Who's states have been wildly successful.

You seem to operate under the misconception that Governor Perry is, actually, Dictator Perry - a man singlehandledly wielding absolute and unchallenged authority; a man whose every word echoes with power and instantly becomes law; a man who is personally and directly responsible and deserving of credit about everything good that happens.

In other words, you see Perry the way North Koreans see their leaders.

The facts are simple: Perry is, at once, an idiot and an expert politician and surprisingly this isn't an oxymoron. He is a shitty mouthpiece who will say anything to get elected. His beliefs are simple: "I deserve to be elected in high office."

Not that I'm surprised that you'd support such a man.


(sidenote: one of these days you'll learn how to properly quote Coach. Don't give up.)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2013, 03:10:48 AM
i never said perry did a bad job as governor.

but I dont think any of us can name the last TX governor that didn't do well.  it's a rich rich state.  it's like being president of Saudi Arabia... they have a shitload of resources and major companies and the state tax thing.  It's an EXCELLENT state to run.  Oil in the hills and unlimited cheap labor.  Winning combination :) 

Perry did a very good job as governor, and would be a solid president, just as everyone else at that level would do.  Their support team would make sure of that, showing them what they need to know.  But there are probably 47 or 48 states that don't have the wealth/value of texas.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: MCWAY on July 13, 2013, 10:12:30 AM
i never said perry did a bad job as governor.

but I dont think any of us can name the last TX governor that didn't do well.  it's a rich rich state.  it's like being president of Saudi Arabia... they have a shitload of resources and major companies and the state tax thing.  It's an EXCELLENT state to run.  Oil in the hills and unlimited cheap labor.  Winning combination :) 

Perry did a very good job as governor, and would be a solid president, just as everyone else at that level would do.  Their support team would make sure of that, showing them what they need to know.  But there are probably 47 or 48 states that don't have the wealth/value of texas.

You have a point. Rubio's likely toast, due this selling out on amnesty. Jeb Bush.....same deal, notwithstanding his tenure as Florida governor was pretty good in my view.

As stated in another thread, you have to get the social and fiscal conservatives on the same page; or the the former (and some of the latter) will stay home; ask Mitt Romney about that.

The independents will take care of themselves; they broke big against Obama in 2012. If the economics don't change, that will remain the case for whoever gets the Dems' 2016 nod.

The last GOP president that got a major chunk of the Latino vote was.....a governor from Texas. Perry needs to work out the kinks, no question about it. But being pro-life and pro-traditional marriage definitely helps his cause. Remember Romney got smoked in the GOP primaries in 2008 before winning in 2012. Who's to say that Perry can't do the same from 2012 to 2016?

Plus, Perry can hit the heartland states, particuarly those big on fossil fuels. Let Obama continue with his "war on coal" and those states may loathe whoever the Dems put up in 2016.

It won't be an easy run, to be sure. But, I wouldn't sell Perry short, especially with a conservative base that has all but HAD IT with flaky sellout RINOs/establishment Republicans.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 13, 2013, 10:42:39 AM
yep.  Why NOT Perry?   Seems to have as much as a chance as anyone else.

The fact he's not a wussy means he'll top 80% of those republicans.  Everyone loves rubio, but seriously, he's a child next to hilary.  Perry is not.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: MCWAY on July 13, 2013, 11:16:26 AM
yep.  Why NOT Perry?   Seems to have as much as a chance as anyone else.

The fact he's not a wussy means he'll top 80% of those republicans.  Everyone loves rubio, but seriously, he's a child next to hilary.  Perry is not.

Everyone loves Rubio? Apparently, you ain't been listening to talk radio. All that left for him is to shoot a drugged-up, thieving, school-suspended black teenager who punched him in the nose; and he'll be a "creepy @$$ cracker".  ;D
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: George Whorewell on July 13, 2013, 01:19:24 PM
Perry is a Karl Rove puppet. If he enters the race, its to prevent a visionary like Cruz or Rand Paul from winning the nomination. Christie is already the anointed Rino favorite anyway.

For the record, I despise Rick Perry and think he's a complete moron.

He couldn't distinguish himself from the last GOP freakshow. This time around some real heavyweights will toss their hat's into the ring. He has no chance. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2013, 01:21:33 PM
I've said this before, republicans you have a shot at my vote next time, don't nominate Perry or anyone like him.   If I have to choose between Hilary and someone like Perry, I'm staying home.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: MCWAY on July 13, 2013, 01:46:10 PM
I've said this before, republicans you have a shot at my vote next time, don't nominate Perry or anyone like him.   If I have to choose between Hilary and someone like Perry, I'm staying home.

NOT ME! I'll take Perry all day over Clinton. We KNOW what'll happen is she gets in the White House: A continuation of Obama foolishness.

Perry is a Karl Rove puppet. If he enters the race, its to prevent a visionary like Cruz or Rand Paul from winning the nomination. Christie is already the anointed Rino favorite anyway.

For the record, I despise Rick Perry and think he's a complete moron.

He couldn't distinguish himself from the last GOP freakshow. This time around some real heavyweights will toss their hat's into the ring. He has no chance. 

I'd go with Ted Cruz too. The farther to the right, the better. This RINO crap must end NOW or the GOP really is doomed. When Bush got re-elected, the Dems didn't moderate; they went hard-left. You don't beat hard-left with moderates. You see the blue-dog Democrats have been laid to rest. It's time for the RINOs to join them.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
Perry actually having a chance?  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
I wouldn't underestimate Perry. It usually takes a candidate at least one failed run for the GOP nomination before they get it right (Bush II is the most recent exception). However, looking at the electoral college map I don't see a realistic road map to victory for Perry. In fact, it's probably going to take a really exceptional GOP candidate to pull it off. I'm not sure that candidate is Perry. All the demographic factors that work against a GOP presidential candidate only grow more pronounced with every passing year.

BTW, there is a pretty entertaining e-book on Amazon by Jay Root (I think that's his name) about Perry's last presidential candidacy if anyone is interested.

Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama are all first time candidates.  The last president who ran a losing campaign before eventually becoming President was Bush 1.  Bush 1 ran against Reagan in the 79 primaries. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: agenda21nwo on July 13, 2013, 10:02:16 PM
Fuck... seriously? Perry? I hope the GOP has the sense to tell him to buzz off. If they don't, well... fuck the GOP. As long as they keep putting up candidates who couldn't pass an interview for a substitute assistant janitor, I simply won't vote for them.

Is a serious candidate really that much to ask for?

Perry has been seriously considered by the Bilderberg Group, having attended their meetings at least once.

They do not want a serious president (but your standards), they want a subservient president who will do what they command.

Also after the atrocity that is Barack Hussein Obama, they know America wants someone who APPEARS all American.  So he is the perfect weapon for them, in that he can dupe America for another 8 years and continue their agenda.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 13, 2013, 10:23:51 PM
I can think of 3 reasons why Perry shouldn't run for president.

1) Was overwhelmed in debates,

2) had a poor grasp of the issues, and






Oops.


Yes, and the fact Texas is financially succeeding where other starts ran by liberals are failing miserably.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 04:44:09 AM
Yes, and the fact Texas is financially succeeding where other starts ran by liberals are failing miserably.

Perry's a solid candidate.  I've never shit on his perforamnce.  But TX is one rich ass state with a wealth of cheap labor.  I don't think we'll ever see TX going bankrupt like Cali.  Arnold could probably keep TX in the black haha.

But if you read my OTHER post, coach, you'll see I support Perry running.

He looks like president.  He's had his 'step in shit moment'.  The party is ready for a TX Bush-like repub now... nobody since Bush has won the office, right?

Perry isn't a pu$$y... Whoever runs in 2016 had better be tough.  Christie is abusive, probably won't get up there.  Rubio is young and just too eager to please, a wimp.  Rand is nice, but hannity/levin will keep him out of the job.  Palin?  Pssh.  Tpaw and bachmann just too fringe.  People won't be stupid enough to believe trump for a 4th pretend run. 

In other words - WHO ELSE IS THERE?    If Hilary runs for a one-term, all-out clinton reunion tour, smart money is on her to win the election.   Jeb and other serious candidates might just sit out.  So why not Perry?   He has nothing to lose, he'll give speeches with the new profile it'll give him and make great money.  Politically, he's returing.  WHY NOT run?  He has nothing to lose.  The repubs?  well, he is a little inept and clueless on some issues, but he'll be surrounded with people telling him the answers and telling us how smart he is (lolzers).   So why not perry?  He makes sense for 2016 against hilary.  Looks like a president, acts like a Bush, and isn't a pu$$y.  Good enough!
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: MCWAY on July 14, 2013, 05:53:24 AM
I wouldn't underestimate Perry. It usually takes a candidate at least one failed run for the GOP nomination before they get it right (Bush II is the most recent exception). However, looking at the electoral college map I don't see a realistic road map to victory for Perry. In fact, it's probably going to take a really exceptional GOP candidate to pull it off. I'm not sure that candidate is Perry. All the demographic factors that work against a GOP presidential candidate only grow more pronounced with every passing year.

BTW, there is a pretty entertaining e-book on Amazon by Jay Root (I think that's his name) about Perry's last presidential candidacy if anyone is interested.

The demographics are overplayed. Again at least three-quarters of the populus is white That number increases when you throw in the "White Hispanics" (what Zimmerman supposedly is).

The challenge will be the usually red states that flipped blue under Obama. Virginia is more blue, not because of Hispanics, but due to white libs constantly migrating from DC and Maryland (after screwing up those areas).

This is a growing pattern. Lefties take over a state, completely tear it apart with higher taxes and regulations. When they get kicked in the fiscal nuts, they bolt to a red state and start the process all over again.

Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: MCWAY on July 14, 2013, 07:26:03 AM
Color is only one part of the demographic equation. The gender issue has to be taken into account. And this abortion business will only continue to drive them away.

Not really!! Remember that Romney got the majority of married women voters. It's the single ones that broke overwhelmingly for Obama. With that said, that's probably a 60-40 split for the Dems' 2016 pic.

The pro-life women's side is grossly underrepresented in this issue. It ain't just guys, fighting to spare the unborn from being sliced to pieces.

Again, whoever gets the GOP nod MUST HAVE the social conservatives (en masse). Like it or not, without them, no Republican is going back to the White House. Bush had those voters and he BARELY won his two election bids, especially in 2000.

Social conservatives, Fiscal conservatives, and independents/libertarians: That's the mix for victory. Anything less than that and we got another Dem in the White House in 2017.

Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 14, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
Perry has been seriously considered by the Bilderberg Group, having attended their meetings at least once.

They do not want a serious president (but your standards), they want a subservient president who will do what they command.

Also after the atrocity that is Barack Hussein Obama, they know America wants someone who APPEARS all American.  So he is the perfect weapon for them, in that he can dupe America for another 8 years and continue their agenda.

Ooh. The Bilderberg group... ::) For a super-secret society that runs the world they sure get a lot of publicity.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 14, 2013, 09:56:19 AM
Perry's a solid candidate.

Uhm... what? Do you even know what "solid" means in this context? What's solid about Rick Perry except his jaw line?


I've never shit on his perforamnce.  But TX is one rich ass state with a wealth of cheap labor.  I don't think we'll ever see TX going bankrupt like Cali.  Arnold could probably keep TX in the black haha

Seriously, why do you guys believe that a Governor is single-handedly responsible for how good or bad a State performs? The legislature has just as big a role - if not bigger - even in a State like Texas.

At best Perry advocated for common-sense measures. But he cannot just up and implement those and he's not even the only one to advocate for those measures anyways.


But if you read my OTHER post, coach, you'll see I support Perry running.

I genuinely don't know why you would want Perry to run, unless your sole criterion for choosing a President is "well, he looks like a manly, tough American man. Unless, in other words, you consider the Presidency to be equivalent to the Miss America pageant sans the fancy tiara and the swimsuit contest.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
Uhm... what? Do you even know what "solid" means in this context? What's solid about Rick Perry except his jaw line?


he's got presidential hair too.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: polychronopolous on July 14, 2013, 11:01:23 AM

he's got presidential hair too.

Very true!  ;)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: chadstallion on July 14, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
a silver lining; as long as he stays outta TX politics I'm happy. although to wish him on the other states, sorry, guys....
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: avxo on July 14, 2013, 02:41:25 PM

he's got presidential hair too.

I grant you that. He looks the part. Some may argue that's enough. For me, it isn't.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Archer77 on July 14, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
I grant you that. He looks the part. Some may argue that's enough. For me, it isn't.

I have to agree.  Bush 3 all the way. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 14, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I have to agree.  Bush 3 all the way. 

america elected bush 1 once (woudl have been twice without perot 3rd party) and Bush2 twice.

why not perry?  he's everything the base wants.   big, crazy, mean, pissed off, not a pussy, and from TX :)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2013, 06:31:22 PM
I think it'll be Perry.   I'm fairly certain, at this point, that he offers the best combo of:

1) gov experience
2) military experience
3) nat'l running experience (2012 primaries)
4) good presidential looks
5) record/platform that is conservative enough to appease the base, but not too much that moderates run.

I think, out of all the names we have heard so far, Perry will win the nomination.  Rubio is a child.  Christie is horribly fat and angry and a liberal.  Rand/Cruz may just be too far right, and we know FOX will destroy them like they did to RPaul in 08 and 2012.

Perry wins it.  We'll never get to this Q about Christie in real life.  He'll look like a bloated mess up there, while Perry will be fresh from the spa, rested, eating his greens, plenty of preparation.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 24KT on December 26, 2013, 06:42:34 PM
The next Governer of Texas = Attorney General Greg Abbot.

You heard it here first.

Would love to see Kinky Friedman run again though. :)

I'm sorry, I don't think Americans are open minded enough to elect a man with physical challenges,
...mental challenges, no problem, ...but not quite ready for physical ones yet.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: headhuntersix on December 26, 2013, 06:51:31 PM
I think it'll be Perry.   I'm fairly certain, at this point, that he offers the best combo of:

1) gov experience
2) military experience
3) nat'l running experience (2012 primaries)
4) good presidential looks
5) record/platform that is conservative enough to appease the base, but not too much that moderates run.

I think, out of all the names we have heard so far, Perry will win the nomination.  Rubio is a child.  Christie is horribly fat and angry and a liberal.  Rand/Cruz may just be too far right, and we know FOX will destroy them like they did to RPaul in 08 and 2012.

Perry wins it.  We'll never get to this Q about Christie in real life.  He'll look like a bloated mess up there, while Perry will be fresh from the spa, rested, eating his greens, plenty of preparation.


Yeah but who comes out of the primary/debate cycle unscathed. Hil won't have much of a challange so the dirt and zingers won't be there. Rand Paul, Christie and Perry will eat each other alive before they ever get to a national debate with Hil. The Repubs have said they won't do that this time but Rand isn't gonna roll over for the RNC. That said I think Perry wouldn't try and bury and overmatched Hil in a debate. Hilary has done nothing but screw up at State...despite what the media portrays. Rand and Christie would go for her throat..which then looks like bullying poor old Hil. I worry that they'll pick Perry and he'll flop. Fatso may be...fat...but he'll friggen destroy her in a debate. He's a center repub....but he's not a wack job leftist like Hil. They say Ryan will run. He's a good vice or guy on ur staff...but he's not a guy who'll do what he has to get elected. I like Perry but he was awful in 2012.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2013, 09:22:42 PM
At one point in 2011, Perry led all other repubs by DOUBLE DIGITS at one point.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/16/perry_leads_republican_field_in_national_poll.html

Entirely reasonable to think - without the Uhhhh moment - he could have been much closer in 2012.

Entirely reasonable to think without a strong Romney, Mccain, Jeb, Palin, or other well-known national voice, it's Perry that wins.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: RagingBull on December 26, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
Your thread ADD fascinates me.  First you write:

"I can think of 3 reasons why Perry shouldn't run for president.

1) Was overwhelmed in debates,

2) had a poor grasp of the issues, and






Oops."

Followed by your post below.

You are like a CEO of a company who files 2 different memos on each issue and depending on the final outcome, burns the "wrong" memo.

i never said perry did a bad job as governor.

but I dont think any of us can name the last TX governor that didn't do well.  it's a rich rich state.  it's like being president of Saudi Arabia... they have a shitload of resources and major companies and the state tax thing.  It's an EXCELLENT state to run.  Oil in the hills and unlimited cheap labor.  Winning combination :) 

Perry did a very good job as governor, and would be a solid president, just as everyone else at that level would do.  Their support team would make sure of that, showing them what they need to know.  But there are probably 47 or 48 states that don't have the wealth/value of texas.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
Perry working VERY hard to differentiate himself, to stand out in the 2016 race.

how?

he's becoming the repub who wants to point out that obama's not doing enough for illegals lol.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/09/politics/obama-texas-immigration-visit/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

oh brother.  RINO softie that will be the next nominee. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 10, 2014, 10:33:05 AM
At one point in 2011, Perry led all other repubs by DOUBLE DIGITS at one point.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/16/perry_leads_republican_field_in_national_poll.html

Entirely reasonable to think - without the Uhhhh moment - he could have been much closer in 2012.

Entirely reasonable to think without a strong Romney, Mccain, Jeb, Palin, or other well-known national voice, it's Perry that wins.

Because hes unbeatable on paper...but then he steps on stage and opens his mouth :-\

Perry would be good honestly, and no one can match his record and his presidential appearance, but you gotta have speaking/debating skills to make it thru the process. Lacking them will result in what happened to him in 2012
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 10, 2014, 11:41:43 AM
still, in the 2016 field, Perry has as good a chance as anyone.  He'll probably be the elder statesman in the group, and he won't be named bush.  He's already has his "oops" moment, and at the moment, immigration is hot and he's happy to be the bedwetting liberal that those fckstick repub voters all suddenly adore.  "act of love".  You punks.  You sorry little fox-news-worshipping rino liberal phonies.  

but there are enough of yall to hand the nomination to another RINO.  you're awfully good at that.  (not you Matrix, I know youre a ron paul conservative, I'm talking to those "repubs" on getbig that scream about how obama sucks then choose a candidate that is 90% same positions as obama)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Dos Equis on July 10, 2014, 05:23:51 PM
Because hes unbeatable on paper...but then he steps on stage and opens his mouth :-\

Perry would be good honestly, and no one can match his record and his presidential appearance, but you gotta have speaking/debating skills to make it thru the process. Lacking them will result in what happened to him in 2012

True.  I really liked what I saw on paper and in a long speech he gave.  Then he opened his mouth on stage and completely changed my mind. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 11, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
The demographics are overplayed. Again at least three-quarters of the populus is white That number increases when you throw in the "White Hispanics" (what Zimmerman supposedly is).

The challenge will be the usually red states that flipped blue under Obama. Virginia is more blue, not because of Hispanics, but due to white libs constantly migrating from DC and Maryland (after screwing up those areas).

This is a growing pattern. Lefties take over a state, completely tear it apart with higher taxes and regulations. When they get kicked in the fiscal nuts, they bolt to a red state and start the process all over again.



Alright dude, disregard everything you say above....  let's get this shit coordinated.  Every time I go away on vacation, you pop up.  I go away.  You show up.  WTF?  You want people thinking we are the same person with a split personality or something?  Seriously dude.  I gotta PM you my travel plans or something so you don't do this shit again?
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 11, 2014, 11:57:38 PM
I like perry.   Except he's to the LEFT of OBAMA on the amnesty thing.

"Oh, mr president, you're so mean, you won't get down here and let these illegals come into our country and give them food, education, and maybe some nice new shoes.  Oh mr obama, you have no heart.  Oh, barrack hussein, why you no care about the undocumented, don't you love them"

I want to spit when I hear Perry trying to coddle up with the hispanic vote.  Sorry, but LEGAL hispanics aren't going to suddenly support him because he will let lawbreakers (yes, they are 100% lawbreakers by definition) stay who look like them.  Imagine - would any of your support a candidate that let in criminals from ireland, england, or germany, etc, because you were irish or english or german?  Heck no!  Criminals are criminals.  You don't win vote by "letting in criminals with the same heritage as me!"
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2014, 06:29:19 AM
Dumb ass
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Archer77 on July 12, 2014, 08:52:35 AM
I like perry.   Except he's to the LEFT of OBAMA on the amnesty thing.

"Oh, mr president, you're so mean, you won't get down here and let these illegals come into our country and give them food, education, and maybe some nice new shoes.  Oh mr obama, you have no heart.  Oh, barrack hussein, why you no care about the undocumented, don't you love them"

I want to spit when I hear Perry trying to coddle up with the hispanic vote.  Sorry, but LEGAL hispanics aren't going to suddenly support him because he will let lawbreakers (yes, they are 100% lawbreakers by definition) stay who look like them.  Imagine - would any of your support a candidate that let in criminals from ireland, england, or germany, etc, because you were irish or english or german?  Heck no!  Criminals are criminals.  You don't win vote by "letting in criminals with the same heritage as me!"

I get a strong moron vibe from Perry. 
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: 240 is Back on July 12, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
I get a strong moron vibe from Perry. 

mentally, mccain, for all his service and experience, was certainly approaching moron status by 2008. 

having those senior moments where he revealed things he should not have, admitting the war was about oil and vowing never to let us invade for oil again... even being attacked by applesauce during a shopping photo op...

and he still managed to grab 46% (?) of the popular vote just because he wasn't named hussein obama. 

So if a dude like perry, younger, better looking, and a tad sharper were to run, he could easily get 48% of the vote and give the Repubs a strong 235 electoral votes.  not enough to win, of course, since we know these bleeding heart RINOs only waste winnable elections, but enough to keep it respectable. 


Let's face it - Many voters do NOT want a highly educated person with a strong understanding of the law and world politics.  Did you know there are actually factions of the base that CELEBRATE being just an average joe with average intelligence, who would PREFER a candidate "to be someone just like me!"

They would literally prefer a candidate with a shoddy degree from 3 community colleges over one from yale or Harvard, because they distrust anyone smarter than them.  They'd prefer a sandwich artist from hoboken over a governor from wherever, because "he's one of us!"  They'd prefer an occasionally drunk, forgetful, part-time liberal whiner like Perry, because "hey, we all have drunken forgetful moments when we abandon our principles - I want a guy just like me!"
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2014, 11:22:24 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: AD2100 on July 12, 2014, 04:07:30 PM
A well established moron donning eyeglasses - thinking it will change people's perception of him - is an even bigger moron.
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2014, 06:31:39 PM
Morons gonna moron
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2014, 08:03:04 AM
Morons gonna moron

Thats not lee priest chili dog a corn dog
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: James28 on July 13, 2014, 10:31:42 AM
Don't know what to say about this guy. Obviously the religiously insane with the big guns and bibles in the house would love him. Isn't he the one that openly prayed for rain, and doubled Texas' debt?
Title: Re: Report: Rick Perry Leaving Office to Run for President
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2014, 12:02:02 PM
"Palin said wearing glasses would make me look smarter."