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We had a thread on 225 so how many reps can you do 315 for?
how many can you do now and how many can you do at your all time strongest
My all time strongest 24 reps
My strength today 17 reps.
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We had a thread on 225 so how many reps can you do 315 for?
how many can you do now and how many can you do at your all time strongest
My all time strongest 24 reps
My strength today 17 reps.
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Mine all time is 13. My strength today, well let's just say I will be wearing the bar. ;D
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for years it was my dream to bench 3 plate for reps "like a boss"
it never happened :-\
best i every did was 1x135kg with a pause when i was hardcoreeeee natural delusional
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for years it was my dream to bench 3 plate for reps "like a boss"
it never happened :-\
best i every did was 1x135kg with a pause when i was hardcoreeeee natural delusional
That`s 20lb away, hit the tren and anadrol combo and you will blow 315 out of the water like butter.
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That`s 20lb away, hit the tren and anadrol combo and you will blow 315 out of the water like butter.
well i'm now apparently stuck at sets of about 8-10 reps with 100kg ("quality reps" of course)
but seated front "military" press is progressing decent, now at 8 reps with 70kg and climbing steadily
dht is a factor in neuro muscular efficiency? but i take finasteride
dunno if this is relevant
over head pressing strength is really good now compared to natural days, those days all time fucking best was like 3-5x70kg, not sure if it was 3 or 5 reps (probably 3......)
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for years it was my dream to bench 3 plate for reps "like a boss"
it never happened :-\
best i every did was 1x135kg with a pause when i was hardcoreeeee natural delusional
at what bodyweight did you do this?
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i know that feeel...........
but soon........... i will be repping it and make my child hood dream since i was 22 years old a reality
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at what bodyweight did you do this?
85kg stuffed with chicken broccli (miss 1 meal and lose 2 kilo type fighting the scale weight sort of bloated fairly lean) at probably about 180cm estimated height
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12 reps at 235lb bodyweight
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305 for 5 and on the last rep felt a "pop" in my chest which hasn't allowed me to train chest for the past couple months. It's starting to feel alot better here recently though.
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We had a thread on 225 so how many reps can you do 315 for?
how many can you do now and how many can you do at your all time strongest
My all time strongest 24 reps
My strength today 17 reps.
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300lbs for 1 @ 175lbs BW was my best but confident I can get there by the end of the year.
No excuses, never been a strong presser.
Squat and Dead are a bit better for me.
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We had a thread on 225 so how many reps can you do 315 for?
how many can you do now and how many can you do at your all time strongest
My all time strongest 24 reps
My strength today 17 reps.
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goddamnit this is pretty much insane
did it build triceps that actually look like triceps unpumped, relaxec from the back in a t shirt?
jay cutler's triceps always looked awesome in this relaxed t shirt walking from the back
thick solid tight veiny..........
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goddamnit this is pretty much insane
did it build triceps that actually look like triceps unpumped, relaxec from the back in a t shirt?
jay cutler's triceps always looked awesome in this relaxed t shirt walking from the back
thick solid tight veiny..........
To do be honest my bench sky rocketed when I started to do close grip bench press for triceps.
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300lbs for 1 @ 175lbs BW was my best but confident I can get there by the end of the year.
No excuses, never been a strong presser.
Squat and Dead are a bit better for me.
very impressive relative to your body weight.
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12 with a pause @ 245ish
never been good at high reps, I can barely do more with 275 or 225 than I could with 315
Last time I tried, 6 close grip with a pause.. been slacking on bench since I got a minor pec tear at xmas :(
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305 for 5 and on the last rep felt a "pop" in my chest which hasn't allowed me to train chest for the past couple months. It's starting to feel alot better here recently though.
What was the ' pop ' ? did you get that checked out?
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I dont use a bar but used to do around 8-10 reps with 150lb dumbells a long, long time ago.
Only use 60s or 70s nowadays. ;)
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I did 15 back in 2000
will not even try it now
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What was the ' pop ' ? did you get that checked out?
I'm really not completely sure. I think I have my form down pretty tight; I've read a good deal on that much but I think I just had my right elbow flared out a bit too much and it put too much stress on my right upper pec. I generally use a narrower grip and incorporate more shoulder and tricep so perhaps on that set I exposed a weak point in my chest?
I didn't have a spotter but I felt confident enough to bring it down for that last rep. For a split second I was a little scared that I wouldn't be able to get the weight back up but I managed with a slight bit of pain.
For the next couple weeks any sort of utilization of that right pec was uncomfortable when opening a heavy door or pushing something around but it just gradually got better so I doubt it was anything really significant.
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I did 15 back in 2000
will not even try it now
how many could prime oleg do?
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I dont use a bar but used to do around 8-10 reps with 150lb dumbells a long, long time ago.
Only use 60s or 70s nowadays. ;)
how much did you weigh then?
i got 8-10 with 110 on a slight incline when i weigh bout a buck 65 or so
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how much did you weigh then?
i got 8-10 with 110 on a slight incline when i weigh bout a buck 65 or so
Bully for you, its not a weight lifting contest we are having you know. ::)
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310lbs for 1 rep was my all time max
so its zero then
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Cswol can do 22.
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15 reps
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TNG with a slight arch I have done 14, can probably still do it
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I asked phil heath this question he said he does 5 plates and a quarter ::)
http://web.stagram.com/p/496533793946306953_20227401 (http://web.stagram.com/p/496533793946306953_20227401)
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I did 42 and 1/2 reps a week ago.
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The best I ever did was 10 at a bodyweight of 190 a long time ago!
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The best I ever did was 10 at a bodyweight of 190 a long time ago!
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real good at that body weight
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How many reps with 315 pounds, best ever? A lot, a whole lot. Now? I can not single 315*. :(
*Total rotator cuff reconstructive surgery done on March 13, 2012.
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1 :X
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12 reps at 235lb bodyweight
dude are you fucking serious? you bench 315 for 15 reps and you look like you dont even take whey protein? lol WOW, some people really just arent cut out for this muscle building thing
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3 reps incline ( used to put 2 x20kg disks and 2 x10k disks on and do triple drops down to 40k each side)..........
was always a shit presser, as of last 3 or 4 year 0, ive got ac joint problems right shoulder and rotar cuff problems left
tore my other hamstring deadlifting a few month ago too, fun times....
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Did this at age 50. Now age 56, can still
Hit 10 reps, 6 reps close grip
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Did this at age 50. Now age 56, can still
Hit 10 reps, 6 reps close grip
Unreal, that was amazing bro, good job, strong as an OX 8)
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The best I ever did was 10 at a bodyweight of 190 a long time ago!
that's damn impressive
just curious, how tall are you and do you have short arms and a think torso ;D
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Best i did was 18 reps back in 1990 when i weighed 205,i was on parabolan and anavar at the time,now i`m coming up to my 50th birthday i can only get 2 reps at 185 bodyweight.
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It was a goal to do it once before I die. Will never get this. Will take up stamp collecting.
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I am fairly strong in all of my lifts except chest. Well thats not true. I can db fly n db press fairly impressive but my bench was never great. I used to work out with 4 sets 315 for a clean five. Could never get over that lower rep hurdle. In fact I can do high fairly heavy reps w legs, back, shoulder but my chest has no endurance for benching. I'm working hard to get back. I know I've repeated it but I'm coming back from bicep reattachment but the reason it snapped there was a bug spur on my shoulder that sliced the tendon. I have no strength in the bench right now just getting 225 for 4 n sometimes not even that cuz my arm hurts so bad where they put it back on. But for the first time in years I have good rom in shoulder n no pain in the joint so im hopeful to get back. Oh yeah I usually go 200-212 bw
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I did 15 back in 2000
will not even try it now
Same here I'll say 1998 -2000 I could do 15 reps with 315 (drug free) ....now I hardly can bench 145 lol
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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My heaviest bench was around 225 for 11 or 12 reps at a weight of 195 lbs back in the 90's. Never tried 315 lbs. Instant injury would have happened. If I kept benching my shoulders would have fallen off by now. They were causing pain back then.
Today, I use about 60 - 70 lbs dumbells and press them one arm at a time, like an alternate punching motion. I don't count reps and try to do it for a minute. Sometimes I will also place elbows against the side and do push ups with feet up on the bench. The further your elbows go away from your sides the more stress hits them.
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My gym has been so busy lately, I haven't found a bench press available in a while at my gym. I have to do my workouts on Smith Machine instead, as I don't have the patience to wait. I did 315 for 12 reps on the Smith Machine yesterday. Conventional bench press would be maybe 6 or 7 reps at 315, but I'm in my 40's now, and the joints cant take the heavy stuff like it used to.
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My heaviest bench was around 225 for 11 or 12 reps at a weight of 195 lbs back in the 90's. Never tried 315 lbs. Instant injury would have happened. If I kept benching my shoulders would have fallen off by now. They were causing pain back then.
Today, I use about 60 - 70 lbs dumbells and press them one arm at a time, like an alternate punching motion. I don't count reps and try to do it for a minute. Sometimes I will also place elbows against the side and do push ups with feet up on the bench. The further your elbows go away from your sides the more stress hits them.
LOL
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15 reps
hey meso is that now or your all time best, or is now your all time best
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All these claims and only one video? :D
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All these claims and only one video? :D
hey bro, what are your reps ?
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hey bro, what are your reps ?
Since we don't have to back it up......I usually superset 315 curls and bench for sets of 20. :D
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Since we don't have to back it up......I usually superset 315 curls and bench for sets of 20. :D
First I do not see anyone making claims here, 90 % of the posters said they fell short and can not do it, I do not know what you are talking about? Post videos? of what? of people who fall short of 315 ???
lmao OK people you heard the man.
Post those videos of you guy not doing 315 since most said they could not do it, lol
EINSTEIN. :D
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First I do not see anyone making claims here, 90 % of the posters said they fell short and can not do it, I do not know what you are talking about? Post videos? of what? of people who fall short of 315 ???
lmao OK people you heard the man.
Post those videos of you guy not doing 315 since most said they could not do it, lol
EINSTEIN. :D
First page, two claims of 12 and one of 15, second page more claims.
Not even counting the guys that "could back in the day".
Einstein ::)
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First page, two claims of 12 and one of 15, second page more claims.
Not even counting the guys that "could back in the day".
Einstein ::)
;D
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Around 15 today without a spot and full ROM.
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Around 15 today without a spot and full ROM.
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nice 8)
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First page, two claims of 12 and one of 15, second page more claims.
Not even counting the guys that "could back in the day".
Einstein ::)
no vid of 315 but I posted a vid on one of cswol's 'benching' threads of me doing 6 pause reps with 365 and 3 with 405... surely not such a stretch to believe 12 with 315? It's hardly world class @ 240-something
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no vid of 315 but I posted a vid on one of cswol's 'benching' threads of me doing 6 pause reps with 365 and 3 with 405... surely not such a stretch to believe 12 with 315? It's hardly world class @ 240-something
Mawse is the real deal 100%, strong big time.
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Mawse is the real deal 100%, strong big time.
thx bro, I only got 5.5 reps yesterday since I've not benched for so damn long (and I weigh under 220 now, losing weight kills my bench bigtime)
time to hit the tren and stop doing hammer machines I think
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that's damn impressive
just curious, how tall are you and do you have short arms and a think torso ;D
I'm 5'9" with fairly long arms but they were my best bodypart! I was just getting ready to start my diet for a show! I felt great and never attempted more than about 6 reps with 315 with help! I got my first 6 relatively easy, and got to eight with no help and got a slight assist for the last 2! I have since gotten 10 on a smith machine about 5 years ago at weighing around 215!
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LOL
In 20 years how are your shoulders going to feel?
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no vid of 315 but I posted a vid on one of cswol's 'benching' threads of me doing 6 pause reps with 365 and 3 with 405... surely not such a stretch to believe 12 with 315? It's hardly world class @ 240-something
You're a beast though.
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About 10 years ago, I would typically bench 315 for 10 reps in 3 sets. Those days I used to train with Victor Martinez and Jason Arntz.
Today, I simply use dumbbells for chest work (flat, incline etc.) and always stay under 100 pounds per dumbbell. I can't afford a serious injury and my shoulders are hinting at one.
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I'm 5'9" with fairly long arms but they were my best bodypart! I was just getting ready to start my diet for a show! I felt great and never attempted more than about 6 reps with 315 with help! I got my first 6 relatively easy, and got to eight with no help and got a slight assist for the last 2! I have since gotten 10 on a smith machine about 5 years ago at weighing around 215!
i'm curious, did you ever give Mentzer's old heavy-duty training style a run?
i'm talking his 2-way split training 4 days a week
day 1: chest, tri, leg
day 2: back, delt, bi
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i'm curious, did you ever give Mentzer's old heavy-duty training style a run?
i'm talking his 2-way split training 4 days a week
day 1: chest, tri, leg
day 2: back, delt, bi
When I first started training I trained at the first all nautilus equipped Health Club in Philadelphia! The owner Roger Schwab was friends with Mentzer and Arthur Jones! I did a similar type workout 3 days a week! I was just starting out I made decent gains! I have always trained with moderate weights with medium to high reps! That has usually worked best for me! As I got older I learned I would change my workouts consistently to keep my body responding and growing!
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When I first started training I trained at the first all nautilus equipped Health Club in Philadelphia! The owner Roger Schwab was friends with Mentzer and Arthur Jones! I did a similar type workout 3 days a week! I was just starting out I made decent gains! I have always trained with moderate weights with medium to high reps! That has usually worked best for me! As I got older I learned I would change my workouts consistently to keep my body responding and growing!
good stuff, and thanks for the reply
it's hard to believe that casey v trained everything 3 days per week when he was being trained by AJ and in fact he did this during the famous colorado experiment
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that's damn impressive
just curious, how tall are you and do you have short arms and a think torso ;D
I wish I had a think torso ;)
Joking aside, you're right, that is damned impressive. Before I gave up flat benching, I think my best was 8. I vaguely recall getting nine once but I asked some goofy-looking fucker for a spot and he put his hands on the bar on the last rep (even though I explicitly asked him to not do a thing unless I said "Take it"). I don't think he helped but I don't count it.
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good stuff, and thanks for the reply
it's hard to believe that casey v trained everything 3 days per week when he was being trained by AJ and in fact he did this during the famous colorado experiment
Yeah, I know. I did that Nautilus 8-12 exercise circuit for a good 8 months when I was 15 and brimming over with natural test production. I did the slow reps, took everything to utter failure -- the works. I even rushed from one exercise to the next like Jones recommended.
It kept me lean and my CO2 max must've been very impressive. But after about a month, the strength gains stalled and, as the months went by, I became grossly overtrained. Some people will scoff at that but it was true. I was tired all of the time, came home from the 10th grade and slept until dinner almost every day ... done the Art Jones way, that routine is fucking GRUELING.
Sure, Casey was rebuilding former size and strength levels, was gobbling Dianabol by the fistful according to Mentzer (Arthur's "no drugs" bullshit would require someone to watch Casey every minute of every day; besides, Casey admits gorging on steroids for the "experiment" when he's feeling candid), and eating a shitload of food at the local greasy spoon 3-4 times/day. I guess the saving grace was, apart from drugs and good genetics, the fact that the whole trial only lasted about a month. Even some of the most conservative HIT-types believe in going overboard for a couple of weeks at a time to trigger a kind of emergency response; e.g., Brian D. Johnston and his "blitz" routines. If you've ever seen him, you'd probably agree he's pretty good for an old fart natural, especially in the wheels and upper back.
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good stuff, and thanks for the reply
it's hard to believe that casey v trained everything 3 days per week when he was being trained by AJ and in fact he did this during the famous colorado experiment
Casey came to the gym I trained at Gold Coast Gym in Florida, and did a seminar in the early 80's! He was a dick, he held up his arm did a bicep shot and said you will never get arms like this! After the seminar I partied with him at my buddies apartment!
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Casey came to the gym I trained at Gold Coast Gym in Florida, and did a seminar in the early 80's! He was a dick, he held up his arm did a bicep shot and said you will never get arms like this! After the seminar I partied with him at my buddies apartment!
Well...did you? ;)
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In the day....sounds pathetic and weak, too Ted Bundyish. :-X
Working to get to two plates for 6-8 by falls end (pain free), then will worry about getting to 3 plates.
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take it easy, joints first,strenght second.
i can sing a song about that.
and bench press is kinda overrated for building up chest anyway
I do incline DB but bench is sacred ground for me ;D
And I'm taking it easy....I'm lying :-X
I have an appointment with a female 40 yr old single liberal Dr....test in the bag baby. :o
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life time natural and did it 3 reps at 76 kg bw on the flat bench and 4 reps on the decline.. i am 72 kg now,.. haven't tried it for a while,.. not sure if i can do 2 reps now or not,.. will try.. ah and i did it for one rep at 69 kg bw long ago..
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life time natural and did it 3 reps at 76 kg bw on the flat bench and 4 reps on the decline.. i am 72 kg now,.. haven't tried it for a while,.. not sure if i can do 2 reps now or not,.. will try.. ah and i did it for one rep at 69 kg bw long ago..
pound for pound you are easily one of the strongest naturals here for sure.
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pound for pound you are easily one of the strongest naturals here for sure.
thx my dear brother of iron :P
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thx my dear brother of iron :P
hey bro, truth. I will swallow my pride and apologize.
In before everyone here thinks I am a sissy, lmao :D
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Casey came to the gym I trained at Gold Coast Gym in Florida, and did a seminar in the early 80's! He was a dick, he held up his arm did a bicep shot and said you will never get arms like this! After the seminar I partied with him at my buddies apartment!
He was a asshole I met him once, but a strong dude.
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pound for pound you are easily one of the strongest naturals here for sure.
x2
exceptional imho
i have yet to seen a non-obese fuck natural go beyond 275-290lbs for a single
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x2
exceptional imho
i have yet to seen a non-obese fuck natural go beyond 275-290lbs for a single
thx bro..
great arab genetics lol kidding..
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Sherrif is very strong for his size, has has posted many videos here to prove it.
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Well...did you? ;)
My arms at their largest were over 18" pumped! I have some old contest pictures that I will post once I find them!
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I can perform this lift zero times.
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My arms at their largest were over 18" pumped! I have some old contest pictures that I will post once I find them!
Let's see them dude.
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They are packed away in a box! I have to find them! Had a flood in the house and are still unpacking things that were stored! As soon as I find them I will post them!
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They are packed away in a box! I have to find them! Had a flood in the house and are still unpacking things that were stored! As soon as I find them I will post them!
Its OK if the arms dont look 18, you can blame the shrinkage on the after effects of the floodwater on the pics.
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Done for 7 reps. Very natural. Have no idea what I could have done gassed - never tried.
I weighed 255 at the time. A nice, chubby, permabulk football 255. Not very pretty. Thought being strong was boss. I was wrong. Turns out girls really aren't that impressed with how often you can bench 315. The only people who cared were the other guys I bounced with at the bar, and the guys on the team. None were sufficient to replace female attention.
Note: I now rarely bench over 135, and do sets of super slomo reps totalling about 50 per set. Pecs have never been better, shoulders are healthier. Girls say they like the pecs. Mission accomplished. I tried 315 a few weeks ago to see what I could do for shits and giggles. Did 3 reps. Felt like shoulders would explode. Not natural.
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Lots of nattys stepping up and cracking out reps with 315.
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pound for pound you are easily one of the strongest naturals here for sure.
Yeah, definitely. 315x3 @ 167 is a very good lift, particularly for a natural. I couldn't even single 315 until I was 210+ IIRC, but in fairness to younger me, I knew sweet-fuck-all about how to train for a 1RM. I figured if I could do 2XX for Y number of strict reps, 315 should be paper, LOL.
I hate getting old, but I can't say I miss that teenaged naivety :)
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Lots of nattys stepping up and cracking out reps with 315.
Nattys or "Nattys"?
(says the Natty that is 315 x 0)
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Lots of nattys stepping up and cracking out reps with 315.
i wonder if one day i can do this on 1ml of test
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I'm really not completely sure. I think I have my form down pretty tight; I've read a good deal on that much but I think I just had my right elbow flared out a bit too much and it put too much stress on my right upper pec. I generally use a narrower grip and incorporate more shoulder and tricep so perhaps on that set I exposed a weak point in my chest?
I didn't have a spotter but I felt confident enough to bring it down for that last rep. For a split second I was a little scared that I wouldn't be able to get the weight back up but I managed with a slight bit of pain.
For the next couple weeks any sort of utilization of that right pec was uncomfortable when opening a heavy door or pushing something around but it just gradually got better so I doubt it was anything really significant.
Fack! This sounds exactly like what happened to me when I was experimenting with those Vince Gironda bench presses to the neck (about 10 years ago, I guess) except I ignored that shit (it was loud but only hurt a little) and then, the next chest workout, it happened again. Since then my shoulder will sometimes sort of "come out" so that it's impossible for me to raise my arm even to shoulder level without first using my other hand to pull my bad arm up and then, if I extended my bad arm hard and rotate it inwardly, it will pop back in and be OK. This still occurs to this day. It's much less of a problem when my back and rear shoulders are strong (trained), btw. I still cannot do a flat BB bench press. :'( :'( :'(
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i think i got 4 reps the other day w 315.
oh wait this is disasterous- according to everyone i should be 'progressively overloading' if i want to have more quailty lean tissue!
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i think i got 4 reps the other day w 315.
oh wait this is disasterous- according to everyone i should be 'progressively overloading' if i want to have more quailty lean tissue!
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;D
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i think i got 4 reps the other day w 315.
oh wait this is disasterous- according to everyone i should be 'progressively overloading' if i want to have more quailty lean tissue!
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but that doesn't just mean adding weight to the bar chief
it can also come from working harder faster ie. adding more reps, taking less time btw sets, doing advanced training techniques like drop sets, etc
it's all about PROGRESS, and adding weight to the bar is only one form of progress
so let me ask you this stud, if you do the same thing over and over again can you/do you make progress?
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but that doesn't just mean adding weight to the bar chief
it can also come from working harder faster ie. adding more reps, taking less time btw sets, doing advanced training techniques like drop sets, etc
it's all about PROGRESS, and adding weight to the bar is only one form of progress
so let me ask you this stud, if you do the same thing over and over again can you/do you make progress?
He does a different workout every time he lifts...he's posted that before.
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but that doesn't just mean adding weight to the bar chief
it can also come from working harder faster ie. adding more reps, taking less time btw sets, doing advanced training techniques like drop sets, etc
it's all about PROGRESS, and adding weight to the bar is only one form of progress
so let me ask you this stud, if you do the same thing over and over again can you/do you make progress?
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My best, 20+ reps with 315. I can still do it today.
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Cswol can do 22 but 20 is good.
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My best, 20+ reps with 315. I can still do it today.
a testament to your natural status
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Cswol can do 22 but 20 is good.
AHHHAHAAHAH!!!! Thanks!!
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i can hit 225 X 5 times :o
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fuck t
u are looking like shit
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Never repped with 315...always did one or two on my way to trying to max.
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fuck t
u are looking like shit
im hella lean tho
its just illusion of size
ya dig 8)
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I don't use a "real bench", but rather a machine press that's plate loaded as I get more pec involvement and less anterior delt involvement. I've never tried a regular bench with 315, but on the machine with 3 plates per side my best was 41 consecutive reps
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im hella lean tho
its just illusion of size
ya dig 8)
Lean? Around 18% bf.
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Lean? Around 18% bf.
your a fucking idiot. he's 12% max there, he just doesnt have any muscle on him and his skin is a bit loose from years of being a fat kid
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your a fucking idiot. he's 12% max there, he just doesnt have any muscle on him and his skin is a bit loose from years of being a fat kid
he has the lower belly a middle aged woman would tuck into her trousers
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your a fucking idiot. he's 12% max there, he just doesnt have any muscle on him and his skin is a bit loose from years of being a fat kid
Certainly not 18 but I wouldn`t say he is 12 either, maybe 14. He is far far from lean
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yep, he's around 14-15% and he says that lean ::)
according to mr. nobody, 8% is fat lol
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yep, he's around 14-15% and he says that lean ::)
according to mr. nobody, 8% is fat lol
tbomb is the Genova of getbig, everyone knows this but himself
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Whores a dime a dozen.
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i can hit 225 X 5 times :o
Huh, what the fuck? You claimed you could do 4 sets of 4 with 335 on the flat and single at least 405.
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Huh, what the fuck? You claimed you could do 4 sets of 4 with 335 on the flat and single at least 405.
crystal meth
not even once
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i can hit 225 X 5 times :o
repulsive :-X
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Huh, what the fuck? You claimed you could do 4 sets of 4 with 335 on the flat and single at least 405.
Ya, I scratched my head on this one too. ???
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All time best 315 x 9 reps at 245 lbs
I'm about 220 now and I think I can beat that. I might try to see tomorrow
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We had a thread on 225 so how many reps can you do 315 for?
how many can you do now and how many can you do at your all time strongest
My all time strongest 24 reps
My strength today 17 reps.
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i posted a YouTube doing 10 I believe with ease at 217