good stuff, and thanks for the reply
it's hard to believe that casey v trained everything 3 days per week when he was being trained by AJ and in fact he did this during the famous colorado experiment
Yeah, I know. I did that Nautilus 8-12 exercise circuit for a good 8 months when I was 15 and brimming over with natural test production. I did the slow reps, took everything to utter failure -- the works. I even rushed from one exercise to the next like Jones recommended.
It kept me lean and my CO2 max must've been very impressive. But after about a month, the strength gains stalled and, as the months went by, I became grossly overtrained. Some people will scoff at that but it was true. I was tired all of the time, came home from the 10th grade and slept until dinner almost every day ... done the Art Jones way, that routine is fucking GRUELING.
Sure, Casey was rebuilding former size and strength levels, was gobbling Dianabol by the fistful according to Mentzer (Arthur's "no drugs" bullshit would require someone to watch Casey every minute of every day; besides, Casey admits gorging on steroids for the "experiment" when he's feeling candid), and eating a shitload of food at the local greasy spoon 3-4 times/day. I guess the saving grace was, apart from drugs and good genetics, the fact that the whole trial only lasted about a month. Even some of the most conservative HIT-types believe in going overboard for a couple of weeks at a time to trigger a kind of emergency response; e.g., Brian D. Johnston and his "blitz" routines. If you've ever seen him, you'd probably agree he's pretty good for an old fart natural, especially in the wheels and upper back.