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Title: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: BRO on August 07, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
Out of Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork;

Which meat is your favorite during the offseason?

Which meat is your favorite during pre contest?

Which meat is your favorite overall, anytime?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 04:21:10 PM
Beef. ive been eating 6-8oz top sirloin every night for months... lost 55 lbs so far and still coming off.

ultra rare red meat ftw.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: TrueGrit on August 07, 2013, 04:24:24 PM
Always pork.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
Chicken first

Beef second

Pork last
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 04:37:18 PM
Beef. ive been eating 6-8oz top sirloin every night for months... lost 55 lbs so far and still coming off.

ultra rare red meat ftw.

WOW 55...what timeframe?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2013, 04:40:29 PM
Out of Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork;

Which meat is your favorite during the offseason?

Which meat is your favorite during pre contest?

Which meat is your favorite overall, anytime?

All of it. The pork we use is a pork tenderloin
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 04:43:35 PM
WOW 55...what timeframe?
55 since may. Trying to get off the 90 I gained thanks to health issues/preggo wife
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 04:45:23 PM
55 since may. Trying to get off the 90 I gained thanks to health issues/preggo wife

 :o way to go....
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
I eat nothing but chicken and oatmeal so there's your answer.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 05:13:38 PM
I eat nothing but chicken and oatmeal so there's your answer.
You know, I used to do that, back in the day... then I realized that it's completely unnecessary, and there is plenty of ways to eat clean and still make the food enjoyable.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:21:14 PM
You know, I used to do that, back in the day... then I realized that it's completely unnecessary, and there is plenty of ways to eat clean and still make the food enjoyable.
  how do you look these days "enjoying your food".  :D
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 05:21:40 PM
I eat nothing but chicken and oatmeal so there's your answer.

Really?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 07, 2013, 05:22:32 PM
Fish
Chicken
Pork
Beef

Beef taste the best, but after I eat it, I feel like a sack of rags for days.. Sluggish...
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:26:30 PM
Really?

I lied, I use whey in the morning because I have no appetite and PWO.


Meal 1: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana in blender.

Meal 2: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Pre Workout Drink

Meal 3: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana

Meal 4: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps, muilt-vit

Meal 5: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Total Protein = 300 Grams - 1200 cals
Total Carbs = 360 Grams - 1440 cals
Total Fat = 55 Grams - 495 cals

Total Cals = 3,095


*Cals are closer to 2800 at the moment. Looks more like 300 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, 50 grams fat.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: arce1988 on August 07, 2013, 05:27:36 PM
Beef
Chicken
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: wild willie on August 07, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
Beef


Pork


Fish


Chicken


and absolutely zero turkey
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: chaos on August 07, 2013, 05:29:31 PM
Beef. ive been eating 6-8oz top sirloin every night for months... lost 55 lbs so far and still coming off.

ultra rare red meat ftw.
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 05:33:36 PM
I lied, I use whey in the morning because I have no appetite and PWO.


Meal 1: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana in blender.

Meal 2: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Pre Workout Drink

Meal 3: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana

Meal 4: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps, muilt-vit

Meal 5: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Total Protein = 300 Grams - 1200 cals
Total Carbs = 360 Grams - 1440 cals
Total Fat = 55 Grams - 495 cals

Total Cals = 3,095


*Cals are closer to 2800 at the moment. Looks more like 300 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, 50 grams fat.

Solid meal plan

I stay around 2500 cals per day Low low carb heavy chicken shellfish lean beaf and vegetable salads with olive oil mostly cucumber tomato onion combo

No breakfast.....1500 cal lunch

500-1000 cal dinner

Lots of hot tea with lemon throughout the day....water

Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
 how do you look these days "enjoying your food".  :D
Like shit, but it's not because of the current diet, lol. It's because of way to much fast food. Lol.

Anyway, my point was that there are other meats and carbs that have the similar macros, and plenty of seasonings and ways to prepare it that dont involve having bland, dry shit day in and day out......, but I think we both know you were just trying to sound hardcore. Lol.  :D

Anway, current diet

5 A.M. - 3 whole eggs, 2 pieces whole wheat toast

9 A.M. - 2 scoops whey protein in water

11 A.M. - 10 oz chicken breast/thighs seasoned with garlic herb or Webers "Chickn' Rib" w/green veggies or 1/2 cup rice depending on how I feel

5 P.M. - 8 oz Sirloin seasoned with seal salt and cracked pepper, or Weber "chicago steak" and w/green veggies or 1/2 cup brown rice depending on how I feel
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
Pulled Pork

Pulled Pork

and

Pulled Pork
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
Like shit, but it's not because of the current diet, lol. It's because of way to much fast food. Lol.

Anyway, my point was that there are other meats and carbs that have the similar macros, and plenty of seasonings and ways to prepare it that dont involve having bland, dry shit day in and day out......, but I think we both know you were just trying to sound hardcore. Lol.  :D
I hear you bro but there is something to be said about clean food. I have experimented a ton with different foods etc.. Have to take into account sodium levels, fiber levels, etc..

for example, compared to my chicken and white rice diet at the same calorie level, my stomach is much tighter eating the oats. this is because the fiber in the oats fucken cleans me out every morning so i am literally not holding any shit inside. lol. its the little details you notice over time with experimentation and how your body reacts to things.

i know adonis talks about cals are cals but the look is just not the same, especially when you are lean enough to see the small differences.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
Pulled Pork

Pulled Pork

and

Pulled Pork

post a current pic and my point will be made.. no offense.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: arce1988 on August 07, 2013, 05:45:32 PM
I know adonis or whatever his name is talks about cals are cals, but the look is just not the same, especially when you are lean enough to see the small differences.


^
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
I hear you bro but there is something to be said about clean food. I have experimented a ton with different foods etc.. Have to take into account sodium levels, fiber levels, etc..

for example, compared to my chicken and white rice diet at the same calorie level, my stomach is much tighter eating the oats. this is because the fiber in the oats fucken cleans me out every morning so i am literally not holding any shit inside. lol. its the little details you notice over time with experimentation and how your body reacts to things.

i know adonis talks about cals are cals but the look is just not the same, especially when you are lean enough to see the small differences.
I don't necessarily agree about the calorie is a calorie thing, but I do try to diversify. I edited my earlier post, this is pretty much my diet now.


5 A.M. - 3 whole eggs, 2 pieces whole wheat toast

9 A.M. - 2 scoops whey protein in water

11 A.M. - 10 oz chicken breast/thighs seasoned with garlic herb or Webers "Chickn' Rib" w/green veggies or 1/2 cup rice depending on how I feel

5 P.M. - 8 oz Sirloin seasoned with seal salt and cracked pepper, or Weber "chicago steak" and w/green veggies or 1/2 cup brown rice depending on how I feel
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 05:50:22 PM
I don't necessarily agree about the calorie is a calorie thing, but I do try to diversify. I edited my earlier post, this is pretty much my diet now.


5 A.M. - 3 whole eggs, 2 pieces whole wheat toast

9 A.M. - 2 scoops whey protein in water

11 A.M. - 10 oz chicken breast/thighs seasoned with garlic herb or Webers "Chickn' Rib" w/green veggies or 1/2 cup rice depending on how I feel

5 P.M. - 8 oz Sirloin seasoned with seal salt and cracked pepper, or Weber "chicago steak" and w/green veggies or 1/2 cup brown rice depending on how I feel
Thats not that many calories really at all.  That amount of calories will get you ripped for sure.   

Here is what I had today

4 servings of Blue Bell Butter Crunch Ice Cream
6 Banana Split Oreo Cookies
2 Lemon Oreo Cookies
1 Lime Chobani Greek Yogurt
Large Buttermilk Biscuit
Half of Deep Fried Chicken
6 Cucumbers
6 Tomatoes

I still have more calories left.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 05:51:26 PM
Thats not that many calories really at all.  That amount of calories will get you ripped for sure.   

Here is what I had today

4 servings of Blue Bell Butter Crunch Ice Cream
6 Banana Split Oreo Cookies
2 Lemon Oreo Cookies
1 Lime Chobani Greek Yogurt
Large Buttermilk Biscuit
Half of Deep Fried Chicken
6 Cucumbers
6 Tomatoes

I still have more calories left.


AAAAND... you look like shit. lets be real.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: _aj_ on August 07, 2013, 05:56:23 PM
I lied, I use whey in the morning because I have no appetite and PWO.


Meal 1: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana in blender.

Meal 2: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Pre Workout Drink

Meal 3: 2 scoops whey, 2 packets oats, 1 banana

Meal 4: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps, muilt-vit

Meal 5: 2 Chicken breasts, 2 packets oats, 3 fish oil caps

Total Protein = 300 Grams - 1200 cals
Total Carbs = 360 Grams - 1440 cals
Total Fat = 55 Grams - 495 cals

Total Cals = 3,095


*Cals are closer to 2800 at the moment. Looks more like 300 grams protein, 300 grams carbs, 50 grams fat.

See, that's hardcore. I am betting that you don't even season it much. There's a fitness contestant chick in my office and she refers to her food as "fuel". Basically doesn't give a fuck what it tastes like.

I would prefer that mindset, but the rest of my family would mutiny.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
AAAAND... you look like shit. lets be real.
Not for me.  Maybe to you though.

I am around 6 percent at 167.6 lbs.  For me that is the best I have ever looked.  Everyone thinks I am 200 plus though.  Its quite amusing.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Marty Champions on August 07, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
Beef. ive been eating 6-8oz top sirloin every night for months... lost 55 lbs so far and still coming off.

ultra rare red meat ftw.
hair line of peace

gray hairs
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
See, that's hardcore. I am betting that you don't even season it much. There's a fitness contestant chick in my office and she refers to her food as "fuel". Basically doesn't give a fuck what it tastes like.

I would prefer that mindset, but the rest of my family would mutiny.
No, I eat my chicken with a little hot sauce and BBQ sauce actually. The oats are the better oats brand that come in flavors and shit. I eat clean, but I dont eat like some uptight twat. lol.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: flinstones1 on August 07, 2013, 06:00:44 PM
pork is shit. has an inferior amino acid profile and no place in ANYONE's diet
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 06:01:56 PM
No, I eat my chicken with a little hot sauce and BBQ sauce actually. The oats are the better oats brand that come in flavors and shit. I eat clean, but I dont eat like some uptight twat. lol.
When I used to diet hardcore long ago, I did the same thing. It was far easier to microwave a cup of oats for every meal than to cook pans full of rice. But man, it burned me out fast. I was single then and could handle it.

Now that Im married? Forget it, don't have the time, drive, or desire anymore.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
Not for me.  Maybe to you though.

I am around 6 percent at 167.6 lbs.  For me that is the best I have ever looked.  Everyone thinks I am 200 plus though.  Its quite amusing.
sorry, your not 6% with the shit you just said you ate. you are either bullshitting about your diet or bullshitting about your stats. this is a fact.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
pork is shit. has an inferior amino acid profile and no place in ANYONE's diet
???

That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: flinstones1 on August 07, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
No, I eat my chicken with a little hot sauce and BBQ sauce actually. The oats are the better oats brand that come in flavors and shit. I eat clean, but I dont eat like some uptight twat. lol.

i eat like shit, out of laziness. although i must say i am going to be cleaning up my diet for no other reason than the fact that i enjoy the cooking/prepping. I mean I'd rather cook a nice new york steak and come home to a fresh green salad, then drive through wendy's or some shit.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Not for me.  Maybe to you though.

I am around 6 percent at 167.6 lbs.  For me that is the best I have ever looked.  Everyone thinks I am 200 plus though.  Its quite amusing.

At what height?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:03:42 PM
sorry, your not 6% with the shit you just said you ate. you are either bullshitting about your diet or bullshitting about your stats. this is a fact.
Believe what you want.  2500 calories a day is plenty to get me ripped.  I do not need anymore or any less.  I eat that day in day out for months.  It works.

Simple as that.  Carry on.

Yes, there are veins in my abs, chest, shoulders.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:04:30 PM
At what height?
5`11 to 6 ft (in the morning)


Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 07, 2013, 06:06:37 PM
5`11 to 6 ft (in the morning)




My biggest fear....me at that wight...just a personal preference (not commentary) and I'm 6' and change
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 06:08:52 PM
"4 servings of Blue Bell Butter Crunch Ice Cream
6 Banana Split Oreo Cookies
2 Lemon Oreo Cookies
1 Lime Chobani Greek Yogurt
Large Buttermilk Biscuit
Half of Deep Fried Chicken
6 Cucumbers
6 Tomatoes

I still have more calories left."

2500 cals of this kind of empty calorie food is nothing. the total weight of the food you take in must be tiny. i bet you shit once a week and it looks like a shoelace when you finally push that garbage diet out.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Thats not that many calories really at all.  That amount of calories will get you ripped for sure.   

Here is what I had today

4 servings of Blue Bell Butter Crunch Ice Cream
6 Banana Split Oreo Cookies
2 Lemon Oreo Cookies
1 Lime Chobani Greek Yogurt
Large Buttermilk Biscuit
Half of Deep Fried Chicken
6 Cucumbers
6 Tomatoes

I still have more calories left.

Yeah, I know it's not overly much. I literally haven't even counted the calories, I have no idea where they're at. I just know they're fairly far below my requirements. Lol. Anymore I just try to eyeball it and get it close, I don't obsess over the macro's and the "must have exact calories for maintenence and then subtract 500, or 10x bw, or whatever
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
pork is shit. has an inferior amino acid profile and no place in ANYONE's diet

I would rather spend money on lean pork cuts than any protein powder.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
hair line of peace

gray hairs
Not yet, full head of hair, no grey.

Yet.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
I would rather spend money on lean pork cuts than any protein powder.
Wow... no idea it was that lean.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 06:22:23 PM


bouncer, , how big in grmas are those oatmeal packages of yours, i think its important, bc bbuilders often overeat on that stuff.



2 pouches with each meal. each pouch is 42 grams.

(http://s24.postimg.org/rjp6oobo5/n6_Md_ME6l.jpg)
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
"4 servings of Blue Bell Butter Crunch Ice Cream
6 Banana Split Oreo Cookies
2 Lemon Oreo Cookies
1 Lime Chobani Greek Yogurt
Large Buttermilk Biscuit
Half of Deep Fried Chicken
6 Cucumbers
6 Tomatoes

I still have more calories left."

2500 cals of this kind of empty calorie food is nothing. the total weight of the food you take in must be tiny. i bet you shit once a week and it looks like a shoelace when you finally push that garbage diet out.
I have eaten more vegetables today than you have in a week.  Hope this helps.  I also take a Multivitamin.  Hope this helps again.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
I have eaten more vegetables today than you have in a week.  Hope this helps.  I also take a Multivitamin.  Hope this helps again.
got me there. i don't see vegetables as very useful in terms of how my body looks so i don't waste my time with it.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 06:45:01 PM
same here, meat always beats protein poweders.

protein powders is never useful, except maybe when traveling to 3rd world shithole where theres no food

oh, are you coming to visit?  ;D
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 06:45:49 PM
I have eaten more vegetables today than you have in a week.  Hope this helps.  I also take a Multivitamin.  Hope this helps again.


LOL and what you said about multivitamins recently?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 07, 2013, 06:49:38 PM
1st : Fish & other seafood
2nd : Kangaroo
3rd : Young Asian pussy  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
got me there. i don't see vegetables as very useful in terms of how my body looks so i don't waste my time with it.
In the long run, they are necessary for health reasons and have many benefits.  Plus they are so versatile and taste great.

I don`t fault anyone for how they choose to eat.  I am beyond all of that nonsense really.  It ceases to amuse me.  I do take issue though when someone says it won`t work or that its not healthy or any other wrong information.

All that matter is that you are happy with the result.

I have tried nearly all methods and given each fair time as I have been doing this for many years with no breaks at all.   The worst time ever was "eating clean" and low carbohydrates for months.  At one point I even went down to around 1400-1600 calories with some cardio.  This was years ago.  The smallest of weights crushed me, I looked the worst that I ever did and I felt horrible every day.  I logged it all on MuscleMayhem for months.  

It was not the approach for me at all. My protein was super high at 300 grams-350 for months as well.  I have never become so weak in my life since lifting on that type of diet.  I will NEVER do that again.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 06:55:38 PM

LOL and what you said about multivitamins recently?
There is nothing wrong with them if you use them correctly as intended.  For the most part they are not necessary, but I find that getting a little extra Zinc is a very good thing, especially if you are a lifetime Natural.

Its not a requirement though.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: THE BOUNCER on August 07, 2013, 07:03:17 PM


I have tried nearly all methods and given each fair time as I have been doing this for many years with no breaks at all.   The worst time ever was "eating clean" and low carbohydrates for months.  At one point I even went down to around 1400-1600 calories with some cardio.  This was years ago.  The smallest of weights crushed me, I looked the worst that I ever did and I felt horrible every day.  I logged it all on MuscleMayhem for months.  

It was not the approach for me at all. My protein was super high at 300 grams-350 for months as well.  I have never become so weak in my life since lifting on that type of diet.  I will NEVER do that again.
well thats just a starvation diet. you were eating well under what your body needs at fucking 1400 cals a day. most athletic woman need more then that.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 07:06:11 PM
There is nothing wrong with them if you use them correctly as intended.  For the most part they are not necessary, but I find that getting a little extra Zinc is a very good thing, especially if you are a lifetime Natural.

Its not a requirement though.


I agree with you in regards to your diet, not really necessary. In my case I do need them (fruit is not included in my current diet). I use multivitamins plus  zinc and vitamin c as extra.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
In the long run, they are necessary for health reasons and have many benefits.  Plus they are so versatile and taste great.

I don`t fault anyone for how they choose to eat.  I am beyond all of that nonsense really.  It ceases to amuse me.  I do take issue though when someone says it won`t work or that its not healthy or any other wrong information.

All that matter is that you are happy with the result.

I have tried nearly all methods and given each fair time as I have been doing this for many years with no breaks at all.   The worst time ever was "eating clean" and low carbohydrates for months.  At one point I even went down to around 1400-1600 calories with some cardio.  This was years ago.  The smallest of weights crushed me, I looked the worst that I ever did and I felt horrible every day.  I logged it all on MuscleMayhem for months.  

It was not the approach for me at all. My protein was super high at 300 grams-350 for months as well.  I have never become so weak in my life since lifting on that type of diet.  I will NEVER do that again.



This is my current diet, very happy with results, strength, motivation, etc. Funny how people are affected in different ways with same thing.
Can you post a link to your diet logs on MuscleMayhem, I am not familiar with that site?
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 07:13:59 PM

This is my current diet, very happy with results, strength, motivation, etc. Funny how people are affected in different ways with same thing.
Can you post a link to your diet logs on MuscleMayhem, I am not familiar with that site?
Im with Adonis on that one, when I was eating straight protein, minimal carbs, and lots of veggies, I had zero strength, and I got skinnyfat. I have to have more than 100g carbs/day or I cannot function.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
well thats just a starvation diet. you were eating well under what your body needs at fucking 1400 cals a day. most athletic woman need more then that.
I didn`t do that for very long at all though.  I went about 5 months at 1800-2200 and then about 2 months ultra low.  The whole time was horrible.

Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2013, 07:17:24 PM

This is my current diet, very happy with results, strength, motivation, etc. Funny how people are affected in different ways with same thing.
Can you post a link to your diet logs on MuscleMayhem, I am not familiar with that site?
You will have to use the Wayback Machine to find it.  If I get bored one day I will pull it up.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: O.Z. on August 07, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
Im with Adonis on that one, when I was eating straight protein, minimal carbs, and lots of veggies, I had zero strength, and I got skinnyfat. I have to have more than 100g carbs/day or I cannot function.


It might be that you did not eat enough of fats as I have nuts and peanut butter in my daily diet.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Shockwave on August 07, 2013, 07:21:09 PM

It might be that you did not eat enough of fats as I have nuts and peanut butter in my daily diet.
I definitely did not, not then...., I added no fats of any kind, just straight chicken breast, egg whites, broccoli, and cauliflower.

But I'd rather just eat some complex carbs than completely switch to protein and fat... I keep strength better, have more energy, and just generally feel better and happy when I'm eating a normal amount of carbs.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: BB on August 07, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Beef, Chicken, Pork, and then Fish.

I've slowly moved away from pork the last few years, my constitution doesn't handle it as well as it did in my youth, but a nice sausage and pepper hero, or pulled pork dish still makes it in every few weeks. Never been a big fish fan.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: ESFitness on August 07, 2013, 10:04:15 PM
sushi

sushi

sushi
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Henda on August 08, 2013, 01:20:05 AM
Beef> pork> chicken> fish
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: BigCyp on August 08, 2013, 02:21:31 AM
Oh brother when someone 'uses' a particular meat.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: CalvinH on August 08, 2013, 05:06:44 AM
Chicken
beef
pork
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: JasonH on August 08, 2013, 05:24:29 AM
In terms of quantities, chicken for me, then beef. Very rarely eat pork or fish.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: kreator on August 08, 2013, 05:27:30 AM
for staying lean over the year you only have to watch your gluten and milk products intake, avoid them most of the time and you won't need no diet come summer time, oh and bodybuilders usually overeat on everything especially believing that overrated protein intake bogus, there's so much excess water on people from all the whey crap, bread, milk that u wouldn't believe
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 08, 2013, 05:31:30 AM
Beef. ive been eating 6-8oz top sirloin every night for months... lost 55 lbs so far and still coming off.

ultra rare red meat ftw.
i agree....best meat by far
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Psychopath on August 08, 2013, 06:20:11 AM
I like very big sausages.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: snx on August 08, 2013, 06:24:18 AM
Yesterday I ate 12oz of boiled chicken, 8 cups of random mixed veggies, 2 cups of berries, and 1 cup of greek yogurt.

Hunger was my companion yesterday also.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 08, 2013, 06:24:28 AM
I like very big sausages.
it is quite obvious
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Psychopath on August 08, 2013, 06:26:23 AM
it is quite obvious

Your sister is hawt. Is she single?

 I can get her a Canadian passport, although i'd rather live in Romania than Canada. It fucking sucks here.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Tedim on August 08, 2013, 06:28:38 AM
ROMANIA....lol the nignogs of the Slav nations.

Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 08, 2013, 06:31:23 AM
Your sister is hawt. Is she single?

 I can get her a Canadian passport, although i'd rather live in Romania than Canada. It fucking sucks here.
post a pic and I'll have her comment here on you
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 08, 2013, 06:31:59 AM
ROMANIA....lol the nignogs of the Slav nations.


romania is NOT Slavic you moron lol
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Overload on August 08, 2013, 11:10:22 AM
Beef, Fish, Chicken.

Doesn't matter when, they are all great and can be eaten year round.

I'm not a fan of pork.


8)
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: ESFitness on August 08, 2013, 11:51:13 AM
romania is NOT Slavic you moron lol


lol
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Deutsch on August 08, 2013, 12:00:59 PM
All of the above.

Lean cuts ofcourse.

I mean who doesnt fry their eggs in bacon grease.

BE A MAN.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 08, 2013, 12:18:16 PM
Some typical meals:

1/2 lb Pollock + a bunch of green beans, or broccoli

1/2 lb Turkey breast + Spring Mix greens + 1/2 bell pepper

1/2 lb Salmon + asparagus or broccoli

5 hard boiled eggs (throw out one yolk) + bunch of spinach

1/2 of a skinless chicken + spring mix + 1/2 bell pepper

Use olive oil and vin on the salad and mustard on the meats and fish (hat tip to Gal)


Cheat Meals (3 total per week)

Chicken and Steak tacos + fries

Twin cheeseburger deluxe

2 slices of pizza w/ toppings

Frozen yogurt w/ numerous toppings for dessert.
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 08, 2013, 12:32:46 PM
Only these four meets to choose from?  ???
Well, then beef would be no. 1. Chicken an pork would share 2nd place.

My real list would be:
duck, goose
horse
venison
ostrich
lamb, goat

I mean who doesnt fry their eggs in bacon grease.
Yummie! Pancakes baked in bacon grease are also a great treat. :)
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 08, 2013, 01:10:26 PM
Sashimi my own
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: phreak on August 09, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
Only these four meets to choose from?  ???
Well, then beef would be no. 1. Chicken an pork would share 2nd place.

My real list would be:
duck, goose
horse
venison
ostrich
lamb, goat
Yummie! Pancakes baked in bacon grease are also a great treat. :)
Duck is great! Veal heart is also very nice. Here is Chennai,  Yemen, lamb is also really popular.  At least at the classier restaurants (Peshawri, Southern Spice, etc.)

Nothing beats 7 inches of pork bologna,  though. ;)
Title: Re: Beef, Chicken, Fish, or Pork?
Post by: phreak on August 09, 2013, 10:28:30 AM
Beef, Fish, Chicken.

Doesn't matter when, they are all great and can be eaten year round.

I'm not a fan of pork.


8)
Fuck off to Mecca, you heathen swine! ;D