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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mogulgangi on August 22, 2013, 09:35:43 PM
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Lol at fitness bikini hoes/retards in the gyms across america thinking they made it by being a "health enthusiast"...bitch you broke..you can never create true trump esque wealth training retards..I wanna slap all of you...training " clients" for a "fee" haha....such a disgracing life you live..
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Invest in real estate, companies, and in being a boss to make millions...
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You make it sound so easy.
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You make it sound so easy.
Never is and never will be...everything is hard ..even fucking personal trainig.. I would rather break my back for myself and myself only..and not to pay the gym owner my monthly trainig fee lol...the gym owner is the one laughing all the way to the bank..you do all the hard work..he relaxes and uses your monthly fee you pay to tranin clients in his gym to live the dream...
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Never is and never will be...everything is hard ..even fucking personal trainig.. I would rather break my back for myself and myself only..and not to pay the gym owner my monthly trainig fee lol...the gym owner is the one laughing all the way to the bank..you do all the hard work..he relaxes and uses your monthly fee you pay to tranin clients in his gym to live the dream...
as a trainer, you provide 1 thing -YOU. (and all the experience and education that comes with you)... the gym owner provides #1 the building & #2 the equipment
you sound like a bitter front desk kid who couldn't pass the ACE test.
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If you do things right, and you have the business savvy to back you, you can make trades with they gym owner. Help him manage for free, collect 100% or find a gym where you are the only trainer and the median income for the area is over 6 figures.
We aren't all stupid and broke.
You learn as you go. Make contracts, learn to sell, be good at what you do so you get the referrals on top of it.
I have a waiting list and have had one for over 6 years.
Good luck if you just got an online cert and hired on with a corporate gym. You may as well work at Mc Donalds. You are right, those gym owners are laughing especially when they tell you that the major objective of your job is to do 25K per month in sales... especially in a city that is on the verge of bankruptcy.
Work where people have money and know WTF you are doing. If you don't but you think you have the ability, pick up a side job until you get there.
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I would really like to work with health or fitness, but the pay is not good. And I don't like to work with other people really. So it is not a good option right now.
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I don't particularly care for the one-on-one either. Even if the bitch is hot, she still flaps her lips too much about her personal un-interesting garbage... but that's kind of what you are getting paid for, unless you can fit a dumbell into her mouth.
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Lol at fitness bikini hoes/retards in the gyms across america thinking they made it by being a "health enthusiast"...bitch you broke..you can never create true trump esque wealth training retards..I wanna slap all of you...training " clients" for a "fee" haha....such a disgracing life you live..
Another naive person.
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Lol at fitness bikini hoes/retards in the gyms across america thinking they made it by being a "health enthusiast"...bitch you broke..you can never create true trump esque wealth training retards..I wanna slap all of you...training " clients" for a "fee" haha....such a disgracing life you live..
go fuck yourself you fag piece of shit
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I was a cert trainer about 10 years ago....Made 5000 bucks in a year.Then the IRS sent me a 1099 for 1800.00 and that was the end of that shit :-[
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go fuck yourself you fag piece of shit
i love the brotherhood on getbig... ;D ;D
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Certified personal trainer is a joke. Most certifications take a week of training. Then many of these guys act like they are the last word in knowledge of all training matters.
I don't know if this happens in other parts of the country but almost all gyms in NJ will not let an outside personal trainer train clients in their gym. Only their own trainers can work with their members. The gym's trainers main job is to sell contracts for membership not personal training.
The only ones making money are the ones in business for them self. Usually steroid users who have their clients convinced they are built because of knowledge when they would look like crap without the drug assist. The other is the guy who has professional athletes working out in his gym. They take credit for the athletes success claiming it's their expertise in training that made the athlete. In NJ a cop helped his son open a gym in a rich town. The area didn't have a decent gym until they opened and they had a lot of professional football players living in the area from the NY Giants and Jets. Soon the gym had many pro football players working out there and the guy soon started taking credit as the trainer to the pros. He's now considered a guru and division 1 players and high school players from all over seek his advice.
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Certified personal trainer is a joke. Most certifications take a week of training. Then many of these guys act like they are the last word in knowledge of all training matters.
I don't know if this happens in other parts of the country but almost all gyms in NJ will not let an outside personal trainer train clients in their gym. Only their own trainers can work with their members. The gym's trainers main job is to sell contracts for membership not personal training.
The only ones making money are the ones in business for them self. Usually steroid users who have their clients convinced they are built because of knowledge when they would llike crap without the drug assist. The other is the guy who has professional athletes working out in his gym. They take credit for the athletes success claiming it's their expertise in training that made the athlete. In NJ a cop helped his son open a gym in a rich town. The area didn't have a decent gym until they opened and they had a lot of professional football players living in the area from the NY Giants and Jets. Soon the gym had many pro football players working out there and the guy soon started taking credit as the trainer to the pros. He's now considered a guru and division 1 players and high school players from all over seek his advice.
In all fairness, in almost any trade they require a certain amount of CEU's to maintain the original cert, degree, etc. So if a trainer says they have multiple certs its usually because they are adding o the CEU's.
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In all fairness, in almost any trade they require a certain amount of CEU's to maintain the original cert, degree, etc. So if a trainer says they have multiple certs its usually because they are adding o the CEU's.
^this. My wife is constantly going to training and seminars for this stuff and every year she needs to send proof of her continuing ed to the governing body, whatever that is.
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Lol at fitness bikini hoes/retards in the gyms across america thinking they made it by being a "health enthusiast"...bitch you broke..you can never create true trump esque wealth training retards..I wanna slap all of you...training " clients" for a "fee" haha....such a disgracing life you live..
Sorry you think personal training is a joke....I guess we'll keep making money and working our own hours while you can make sure that the burgers on the grill are flipped every 4 minutes.... ;D
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Lol at fitness bikini hoes/retards in the gyms across america thinking they made it by being a "health enthusiast"...bitch you broke..you can never create true trump esque wealth training retards..I wanna slap all of you...training " clients" for a "fee" haha....such a disgracing life you live..
She turned you down, eh?
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Certified personal trainer is a joke. Most certifications take a week of training. Then many of these guys act like they are the last word in knowledge of all training matters.
I don't know if this happens in other parts of the country but almost all gyms in NJ will not let an outside personal trainer train clients in their gym. Only their own trainers can work with their members. The gym's trainers main job is to sell contracts for membership not personal training.
The only ones making money are the ones in business for them self. Usually steroid users who have their clients convinced they are built because of knowledge when they would look like crap without the drug assist. The other is the guy who has professional athletes working out in his gym. They take credit for the athletes success claiming it's their expertise in training that made the athlete. In NJ a cop helped his son open a gym in a rich town. The area didn't have a decent gym until they opened and they had a lot of professional football players living in the area from the NY Giants and Jets. Soon the gym had many pro football players working out there and the guy soon started taking credit as the trainer to the pros. He's now considered a guru and division 1 players and high school players from all over seek his advice.
what's wrong with that? I'm not even a trainer by trade and I have people coming up to me and ask me to train them. what I do is just throw out a stupid number that will scare them off. But I still have two clients that didn't blink at my fee and I've been training them for two years. one is an older gentlemen who has lost 20 pounds and kept it off, and vastly improved his muscle tone and posture. the other is a guy in his 30's that wanted to be jacked, and I got him jacked. I got certified a hundred years ago just to do it, and it payed off. I make GOOD fucking money off these guys for a few hours work a week.
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Sorry you think personal training is a joke....I guess we'll keep making money and working our own hours while you can make sure that the burgers on the grill are flipped every 4 minutes.... ;D
Personal training is no different than slavery or any starter position..for the business owner, you are just another form of income coming into the balance sheet. You are a 1099, working under your "own" schedule so long as you pay his fee..hahaha...helping people lift weight is serious business!!!,
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as a trainer, you provide 1 thing -YOU. (and all the experience and education that comes with you)... the gym owner provides #1 the building & #2 the equipment
you sound like a bitter front desk kid who couldn't pass the ACE test.
Taking exams to be a personal trainer is a joke.....even the guys who write the books are laughing all the way to the bank...
I myself was a personal trainer in college...it took me about 3 months to realize that it was a scam position..some fuking retard at la tried selling me the dream most recently...poor bastard...someone that sells you the dream of financial independence via helping people loose weight is no different than selling snake oil.. There is nothing in personal training that allows you to gain equity, build wealth, and or give you respectable credentials to even apply for a bank loan...for bankers, a personal trainer is no different than a street bum..
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Personal training is no different than slavery or any starter position..for the business owner, you are just another form of income coming into the balance sheet. You are a 1099, working under your "own" schedule so long as you pay his fee..hahaha...helping people lift weight is serious business!!!,
Between you and oldtimer1 i cant tell who is more less informed. There is a ton of demographics in which trainers work in. Not to mention most have become more valuable than physical therapy.
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Taking exams to be a personal trainer is a joke.....even the guys who write the books are laughing all the way to the bank...
I myself was a personal trainer in college...it took me about 3 months to realize that it was a scam position..some fuking retard at la tried selling me the dream most recently...poor bastard...someone that sells you the dream of financial independence via helping people loose weight is no different than selling snake oil.. There is nothing in personal training that allows you to gain equity, build wealth, and or give you respectable credentials to even apply for a bank loan...for bankers, a personal trainer is no different than a street bum..
really? because my last two gf's were investment bankers. they must've been 'slumming' I guess...
and as long as you can prove income (ugh, taxes?) you can get a bank loan.... and building wealth? why don't you save and invest your money? I turned my personal training $ and had my wealthy clients invest in my fund when I was a prop-trader. Who needs a 'bank loan' when you have clients worth 20 mil and are looking for any other way to our perform the s&p.
sounds like you're not doing something right.
you sound bitter... like life has let you down.
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Why are those women bald and have hairy arms that are touching that guy Tito?
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Personal training is no different than slavery or any starter position..for the business owner, you are just another form of income coming into the balance sheet. You are a 1099, working under your "own" schedule so long as you pay his fee..hahaha...helping people lift weight is serious business!!!,
The personal training business is what you make it. I train people because there's always someone wanting to get in shape...whether its for a wedding, class reunion, or for their own health...whatever because it really doesn't matter. Its a business that requires very little overhead and for the most part its a cash business. Not only that, I make even more by simply giving them an Advocare brochure and that generates residual income for supplement purchases.
Personal Training is the perfect business because its part of the Health Care Industry which is rapidly booming due to the excessive amount of obesity in this country.....it matters not to me whether some people disagree with the business because its just more money for me
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The personal training business is what you make it. I train people because there's always someone wanting to get in shape...whether its for a wedding, class reunion, or for their own health...whatever because it really doesn't matter. Its a business that requires very little overhead and for the most part its a cash business. Not only that, I make even more by simply giving them an Advocare brochure and that generates residual income for supplement purchases.
Personal Training is the perfect business because its part of the Health Care Industry which is rapidly booming due to the excessive amount of obesity in this country.....it matters not to me whether some people disagree with the business because its just more money for me
Ever thought about real estate ?
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just like in many businesses, you have to be an asshole to be successful. The only way to make money is to train people in a rich area. Poor people dont have the luxury, time, will, to learn how to get fit and healthy, most abandon before reaching any king of results. They re just here to allow the local shit scam gym to make money off them. Most people in the "business" are preying on weaker minded people insecurities.
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just like in many businesses, you have to be an asshole to be successful. The only way to make money is to train people in a rich area. Poor people dont have the luxury, time, will, to learn how to get fit and healthy, most abandon before reaching any king of results. They re just here to allow the local shit scam gym to make money off them. Most people in the "business" are preying on weaker minded people insecurities.
Shut the fuck up ubermoron.
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The personal training business is what you make it. I train people because there's always someone wanting to get in shape...whether its for a wedding, class reunion, or for their own health...whatever because it really doesn't matter. Its a business that requires very little overhead and for the most part its a cash business. Not only that, I make even more by simply giving them an Advocare brochure and that generates residual income for supplement purchases.
Personal Training is the perfect business because its part of the Health Care Industry which is rapidly booming due to the excessive amount of obesity in this country.....it matters not to me whether some people disagree with the business because its just more money for me
You have never trained someone in yor life.
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Why are those women bald and have hairy arms that are touching that guy Tito?
I could be wrong but I don't think they're women .
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The personal training business is what you make it. I train people because there's always someone wanting to get in shape...whether its for a wedding, class reunion, or for their own health...whatever because it really doesn't matter. Its a business that requires very little overhead and for the most part its a cash business. Not only that, I make even more by simply giving them an Advocare brochure and that generates residual income for supplement purchases.
Personal Training is the perfect business because its part of the Health Care Industry which is rapidly booming due to the excessive amount of obesity in this country.....it matters not to me whether some people disagree with the business because its just more money for me
Listen when this man speaks: according to Vincent, Anabolic Mayhem generates a trailblazing $300 a month in advertising revenue. You heard that right: Vincent is locking in an extraordinary 1400% return on the typical $20 (or thereabouts) required to maintain a small website. In fact, at this rate, Vincent will be a self-made millionaire in a mere 278 years -- amazing! Needless to say, Grow Rich Slowly occupies a prime position on the mahogany shelf in the trailer.
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just like in many businesses, you have to be an asshole to be successful. The only way to make money is to train people in a rich area. Poor people dont have the luxury, time, will, to learn how to get fit and healthy, most abandon before reaching any king of results. They re just here to allow the local shit scam gym to make money off them. Most people in the "business" are preying on weaker minded people insecurities.
while this is true for me... I did ok elsewhere training housewives/soccer moms who could only afford a couple hundred a month as well.
It's all about who you know. One of my clients happened to be a former Olympian (from south pacific country.. not U.S.), who now owns almost a dozen businesses and runs a concierge business that caters to uber-wealthy. after a month he'd given me a couple of his rolodex/datebases containing nearly 600 people from the most expensive country clubs in the area... people with net worth in the tens and hundreds of millions. Bill & Melinda gates are on one of the lists... the ex CEO of ticketmaster, ect... Before you know it, i'm training a rapper/producer who's CD I shoplifted when I was 13 because I wasn't old enough to purchase it.......
as my concierge client tells me, "*my name*, you've got to stand close to the money tree... because the money falls straight down. you might get lucky and the wind will blow you a dollar or two, once in a while... but generally speaking, the money falls straight down".
... oh, and drive a nice car & wear a nice watch. lol. Can't be parking your Honda accord in front of a clients $15million home. (or be wearing a 60mm Invictia P.O.S.)
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Anybody who hires vince as a personal trainer i just hope they dont go to google ;D
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Listen when this man speaks: according to information Basile posted, Anabolic Mayhem generates a trailblazing $3 a day in advertising revenue. You heard that right: Vincent is locking in an extraordinary 5375% return on the typical $20 (or thereabouts) required to maintain a small website. In fact, at this rate, Vincent will be a self-made millionaire in a mere 9.13x102 years -- amazing! Needless to say,Grow Rich Slowly occupies a prime position on the mahogany shelf in the trailer.
Anabolic Mayhem generates about 300 a month in revenue actually. A website will never really determine how much a place brings in
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really? because my last two gf's were investment bankers. they must've been 'slumming' I guess...
and as long as you can prove income (ugh, taxes?) you can get a bank loan.... and building wealth? why don't you save and invest your money? I turned my personal training $ and had my wealthy clients invest in my fund when I was a prop-trader. Who needs a 'bank loan' when you have clients worth 20 mil and are looking for any other way to our perform the s&p.
sounds like you're not doing something right.
you sound bitter... like life has let you down.
Amen to that! Damn, I guess I've just been damn lucky, huh? My very first year was near 6 figures. It's not difficult to do the math. Median income was $110 - 135 in the city. I charged $50 an hour and trained 10 clients a day and 4 or so on Saturdays and maybe 1 or 2 on Sundays. That's a minimum of $2500 per week and $10 K per month x 12 = 120K ~
Now I said "near" 6 figures because some clients just did 1/2 hour sessions and some clients that did 3 month (or longer) contracts got a reduction in fees. The gym was small and I was the only trainer. I had 25 class teachers (spin, step, yoga, etc.) and I got a percentage of their money as the Fitness Manager.
I also branched out and trained the US Swim Team and an Acro-Gymanstics team for the Beijing Olympics. I charged by the student and trained at their gym. I was also paid to design the weight training gym that was built inside their gymanstics gym.
Granted, I was working from 4:30 AM to closing with a few naps in my custom "cool down" room, but please, don't tell me it can't be done.
Have you ever heard the saying "You're doing it wrong?"
How about "what the mind can conceive....?"
You guys that are ranting are getting stuck in the ugly corporate gym scene. You are not in the real world where the money is (for you) nor are you thinking correctly (calculating)
Trust me, in this shitty economy there is MONEY TO BE MADE IN PERSONAL TRAINING!!!!
Ask 100 people randomly if they would like to be in shape. They are all going to say "yes" ~ what does that tell you? You put the price on it and they will find a way to come up with the dough.
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really? because my last two gf's were investment bankers. they must've been 'slumming' I guess...
and as long as you can prove income (ugh, taxes?) you can get a bank loan.... and building wealth? why don't you save and invest your money? I turned my personal training $ and had my wealthy clients invest in my fund when I was a prop-trader. Who needs a 'bank loan' when you have clients worth 20 mil and are looking for any other way to our perform the s&p.
sounds like you're not doing something right.
you sound bitter... like life has let you down.
Serious delusions of granduer.
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Serious delusions of granduer.
explain
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Amen to that! Damn, I guess I've just been damn lucky, huh? My very first year was near 6 figures. It's not difficult to do the math. Median income was $110 - 135 in the city. I charged $50 an hour and trained 10 clients a day and 4 or so on Saturdays and maybe 1 or 2 on Sundays. That's a minimum of $2500 per week and $10 K per month x 12 = 120K ~
Now I said "near" 6 figures because some clients just did 1/2 hour sessions and some clients that did 3 month (or longer) contracts got a reduction in fees. The gym was small and I was the only trainer. I had 25 class teachers (spin, step, yoga, etc.) and I got a percentage of their money as the Fitness Manager.
I also branched out and trained the US Swim Team and an Acro-Gymanstics team for the Beijing Olympics. I charged by the student and trained at their gym. I was also paid to design the weight training gym that was built inside their gymanstics gym.
Granted, I was working from 4:30 AM to closing with a few naps in my custom "cool down" room, but please, don't tell me it can't be done.
Have you ever heard the saying "You're doing it wrong?"
How about "what the mind can conceive....?"
You guys that are ranting are getting stuck in the ugly corporate gym scene. You are not in the real world where the money is (for you) nor are you thinking correctly (calculating)
Trust me, in this shitty economy there is MONEY TO BE MADE IN PERSONAL TRAINING!!!!
Ask 100 people randomly if they would like to be in shape. They are all going to say "yes" ~ what does that tell you? You put the price on it and they will find a way to come up with the dough.
that's the worst part of being Fitness Director and being involved in damn near every facet of the business... I got to the point now that I don't have to come in till about 1pm, but i'm there till midnight, and go run shopping after (thanks 24hr walmart), get home eat, shower, wind down, return emails, tend to my 'other' biz, emails & such.. then if I have a client who absolutely has to train in the AM, i'll take a 30min nap on the couch, and head back to the gym at 5am for a 30min session.. head home and sleep till 1130..... if i'm lucky i'll get a 2 hour break where I'll sleep in the daycare room for an hour, wake up drink a preworkout and get a 45min workout in........ it gets brutal sometimes, but the $ is worth it.
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that's the worst part of being Fitness Director and being involved in damn near every facet of the business... I got to the point now that I don't have to come in till about 1pm, but i'm there till midnight, and go run shopping after (thanks 24hr walmart), get home eat, shower, wind down, return emails, tend to my 'other' biz, emails & such.. then if I have a client who absolutely has to train in the AM, i'll take a 30min nap on the couch, and head back to the gym at 5am for a 30min session.. head home and sleep till 1130..... if i'm lucky i'll get a 2 hour break where I'll sleep in the daycare room for an hour, wake up drink a preworkout and get a 45min workout in........ it gets brutal sometimes, but the $ is worth it.
That's the way we roll. I came from the Trucking Industry originally.
Some of these kids need to understand work ethic. It applies to any job (or any degree of success) ~ once you get established, you can take a rest day here and there, but it gets in your blood, and you probably will schedule a rest day, but you won't take it.
Something for nothing?
No way! Not in this lifetime.
And I'm not bitching. I enjoy my lifestyle... (and the $$$$)
If you say it can't be done, no matter what endeavor, you have ALREADY failed ~ sorry.
Oh yeah, and a special thanks to the 24 hour Wally World. Not much open when I get done. Not even my GF, who thinks I am fooling around with all of the "gym bunnies" as she calls them. Not.
You bring that shit into your world and cross that line, you may as well dump your business ventures.
Sacrifice and success seem to go hand in hand quite well.
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That's the way we roll. I came from the Trucking Industry originally.
Some of these kids need to understand work ethic. It applies to any job (or any degree of success) ~ once you get established, you can take a rest day here and there, but it gets in your blood, and you probably will schedule a rest day, but you won't take it.
Something for nothing?
No way! Not in this lifetime.
And I'm not bitching. I enjoy my lifestyle... (and the $$$$)
If you say it can't be done, no matter what endeavor, you have ALREADY failed ~ sorry.
Oh yeah, and a special thanks to the 24 hour Wally World. Not much open when I get done. Not even my GF, who thinks I am fooling around with all of the "gym bunnies" as she calls them. Not.
You bring that shit into your world and cross that line, you may as well dump your business ventures.
Sacrifice and success seem to go hand in hand quite well.
Are you and ESFitness independent contractors, have your own facilities or work for a facility?
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Are you and ESFitness independent contractors, have your own facilities or work for a facility?
I carefully chose the facility I work in. It is a small gym that caters to personal training, EFT's and a non-corporate attitude. In other words "no hidden fees"
The first part of my investigation was Googling "Median Income" for this area.
Within a ten mile radius we have an average median income of 46K per household, 57K, 76K and 110K ~
My second part of the investigation was "Who is our competition?"
The third consideration, of course was: "Will I be able to build a business here the way that I want to?"
Which one do you think I chose?
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Amen to that! Damn, I guess I've just been damn lucky, huh? My very first year was near 6 figures. It's not difficult to do the math. Median income was $110 - 135 in the city. I charged $50 an hour and trained 10 clients a day and 4 or so on Saturdays and maybe 1 or 2 on Sundays. That's a minimum of $2500 per week and $10 K per month x 12 = 120K ~
Now I said "near" 6 figures because some clients just did 1/2 hour sessions and some clients that did 3 month (or longer) contracts got a reduction in fees. The gym was small and I was the only trainer. I had 25 class teachers (spin, step, yoga, etc.) and I got a percentage of their money as the Fitness Manager.
I also branched out and trained the US Swim Team and an Acro-Gymanstics team for the Beijing Olympics. I charged by the student and trained at their gym. I was also paid to design the weight training gym that was built inside their gymanstics gym.
Granted, I was working from 4:30 AM to closing with a few naps in my custom "cool down" room, but please, don't tell me it can't be done.
Have you ever heard the saying "You're doing it wrong?"
How about "what the mind can conceive....?"
You guys that are ranting are getting stuck in the ugly corporate gym scene. You are not in the real world where the money is (for you) nor are you thinking correctly (calculating)
Trust me, in this shitty economy there is MONEY TO BE MADE IN PERSONAL TRAINING!!!!
Ask 100 people randomly if they would like to be in shape. They are all going to say "yes" ~ what does that tell you? You put the price on it and they will find a way to come up with the dough.
Lol....read " think like a billionaire " by Donald trump...I don't remember him mentioning personal training as a wealth creator....lol
Give it a couple years and you'll have my attitude...I'd rather have personal trainers go out and suffer for finding the clients...doing all your "research"..and then pay me ..owning a gym is a serious business.. a bunch of motivated hard working wanna bes thinking they can life off helping people be healthy...I'd rather sit back, let you do all the work...
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they commercialized and corporatized the training industry like all others...........
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Lol....read " think like a billionaire " by Donald trump...I don't remember him mentioning personal training as a wealth creator....lol
Give it a couple years and you'll have my attitude...I'd rather have personal trainers go out and suffer for finding the clients...doing all your "research"..and then pay me ..owning a gym is a serious business.. a bunch of motivated hard working wanna bes thinking they can life off helping people be healthy...I'd rather sit back, let you do all the work...
We did a little under $400k in PT alone last year. There are small pt facilities doing over a million. You may wish to think before you speak or at least do some research.
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Are you and ESFitness independent contractors, have your own facilities or work for a facility?
I do both. Work for the gym as well as independent.
The gym biz is like any other biz. You provide the brains, and somebody else provides the cash.. and either you put together the biz plan yourself, or you put it together with your investor(s), and then you negotiate compensation.
I'm in a 'small' gym as well. 12.5 sq feet of 'strength training/cardio' (like a regular gym), plus about 1200 sq feet of 'functional training' area where I run bootcamps/crossfit type stuff.
Our gym is an 'anti-corporate' gym as well... I know everybody's name and what they do and where they're from. It's one of the wealthiest areas in the country, so we have a lot of 'snow-birds' who come here for the winter from Canada, the Midwest, Washington/Oregon, and the north east. We/I also provide in-home training for wealthy ppl who can't be bothered by coming to the gym.
btw... I read "Think like a billionaire" by Trump as well, (along with his other books, and all Kiyosaki's, and Robert greenes, and tony robbins, and jack welch, ect...) and while "personal training" wasn't mentioned, the common theme is "Find what youre good at.. what do you do that you do better than everybody else" and you do it... and keep long term goals in sight, and you'll do well.
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Anabolic Mayhem generates about 300 a month in revenue actually. A website will never really determine how much a place brings in
Thanks, I've updated my post accordingly.
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Thanks, I've updated my post accordingly.
I could care less about becoming a millionaire. I'm building my off-grid property and afterwards I'm not going to worry about what goes on in the world.
Money is of no value if you have to work 80 hours a week in a very stressful and/or dangerous enviroment. Maybe one day you'll figure that out
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Between you and oldtimer1 i cant tell who is more less informed. There is a ton of demographics in which trainers work in. Not to mention most have become more valuable than physical therapy.
I agree with u a lot. That last sentence is the dumbest thing I have seen u post. Most trainers have become more valuable than real physical therapy. So trainers are taking care of stoke patients, spinal cord injuries, amputations and the list goes on and on. You could have easily made your point without that last sentence.
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I agree with u a lot. That last sentence is the dumbest thing I have seen u post. Most trainers have become more valuable than real physical therapy. So trainers are taking care of stoke patients, spinal cord injuries, amputations and the list goes on and on. You could have easily made your point without that last sentence.
You're right, I should have clarified that. I meant as far as post physical therapy rehab (passive) in things like CL repairs and reconstruction, rotator cuff, low back, etc. I'm not suggesting any trainer can do this but good trainers that specialize in say, athletes ;D can do just as well and sometimes more.
We have a Orthopedic surgeon that we get referrals from almost weekly on things like this. But do work with physical therapists as well in house. As an example. I have a kid, 22. Went to Vegas for the weekend, got blind drunk then slept in one position for 14-15 hrs straight. Arm went numb all the way down to his finger tips. His Ortho diagnosed it as "Saturday Night Syndrom" (Radial Nerve Dysfunction), Dr. wrote his a prescription for physical therapy. Goes to PT, she says she does not want him lifting ANY WEIGHTS, including legs for a period of six months. Right away that set of a bell of bullshit.
I am no position to be diagnosing or giving a second opinion, so I had someone do it for me. He's a trainer, strength and conditioning coach (former head of the Philadelphia 76' and a Dr. of PT. I emailed the report to him and suggested the recovery time should be 6-12 weeks. Through different modalities and progressions of our own protocols, he's about 90% recovered. Point is, the orginal PT wanted him doing NOTHING, come to them 2x per week and the protocol was next to nothing. He did farmers walks today with fat grips with 55lb DB's for 30 yards.
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You're right, I should have clarified that. I meant as far as post physical therapy rehab (passive) in things like CL repairs and reconstruction, rotator cuff, low back, etc. I'm not suggesting any trainer can do this but good trainers that specialize in say, athletes ;D can do just as well and sometimes more.
We have a Orthopedic surgeon that we get referrals from almost weekly on things like this. But do work with physical therapists as well in house. As an example. I have a kid, 22. Went to Vegas for the weekend, got blind drunk then slept in one position for 14-15 hrs straight. Arm went numb all the way down to his finger tips. His Ortho diagnosed it as "Saturday Night Syndrom" (Radial Nerve Dysfunction), Dr. wrote his a prescription for physical therapy. Goes to PT, she says she does not want him lifting ANY WEIGHTS, including legs for a period of six months. Right away that set of a bell of bullshit.
I am no position to be diagnosing or giving a second opinion, so I had someone do it for me. He's a trainer, strength and conditioning coach (former head of the Philadelphia 76' and a Dr. of PT. I emailed the report to him and suggested the recovery time should be 6-12 weeks. Through different modalities and progressions of our own protocols, he's about 90% recovered. Point is, the orginal PT wanted him doing NOTHING, come to them 2x per week and the protocol was next to nothing. He did farmers walks today with fat grips with 55lb DB's for 30 yards.
Shit! Just sleeping in the wrong position can cause that much damage?
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Shit! Just sleeping in the wrong position can cause that much damage?
Have you ever slept in a position to where your arm or hand goes numb for a short period of time when say, taking a nap? or not changing positions while sleeping. You usually can just wake up and shake your arm a few times and you're good...not in these cases.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000790.htm
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You're right, I should have clarified that. I meant as far as post physical therapy rehab (passive) in things like CL repairs and reconstruction, rotator cuff, low back, etc. I'm not suggesting any trainer can do this but good trainers that specialize in say, athletes ;D can do just as well and sometimes more.
We have a Orthopedic surgeon that we get referrals from almost weekly on things like this. But do work with physical therapists as well in house. As an example. I have a kid, 22. Went to Vegas for the weekend, got blind drunk then slept in one position for 14-15 hrs straight. Arm went numb all the way down to his finger tips. His Ortho diagnosed it as "Saturday Night Syndrom" (Radial Nerve Dysfunction), Dr. wrote his a prescription for physical therapy. Goes to PT, she says she does not want him lifting ANY WEIGHTS, including legs for a period of six months. Right away that set of a bell of bullshit.
I am no position to be diagnosing or giving a second opinion, so I had someone do it for me. He's a trainer, strength and conditioning coach (former head of the Philadelphia 76' and a Dr. of PT. I emailed the report to him and suggested the recovery time should be 6-12 weeks. Through different modalities and progressions of our own protocols, he's about 90% recovered. Point is, the orginal PT wanted him doing NOTHING, come to them 2x per week and the protocol was next to nothing. He did farmers walks today with fat grips with 55lb DB's for 30 yards.
Fair enough. Yes there is retards in all professions. That female PT is one.
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Have you ever slept in a position to where your arm or hand goes numb for a short period of time when say, taking a nap? or not changing positions while sleeping. You usually can just wake up and shake your arm a few times and you're good...not in these cases.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000790.htm
Of course I have. I've woken up and couldn't move my neck. Once it seemed like my shoulder just went dead. But I just shake it off and over the next few days it gets better. I didin't need no goddamn physical therapy.
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Mogul, you're assuming that all personal trainers do it full time. Many just do it as a side gig.
I know someone who is a firefighter, and with overtime, can pull over $100,000 a year. He does personal training on the side because A) he likes to lift weights, B) he enjoys training people, and C) he even gets to make some side cash.
Personally, I could never do personal training as a full time job, but for some extra cash on the side, why not?
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Mogul, you're assuming that all personal trainers do it full time. Many just do it as a side gig.
I know someone who is a firefighter, and with overtime, can pull over $100,000 a year. He does personal training on the side because A) he likes to lift weights, B) he enjoys training people, and C) he even gets to make some side cash.
Personally, I could never do personal training as a full time job, but for some extra cash on the side, why not?
With the field you're in, you'll never have to worry about making extra money. Especially here in LA.
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Mogul, you're assuming that all personal trainers do it full time. Many just do it as a side gig.
I know someone who is a firefighter, and with overtime, can pull over $100,000 a year. He does personal training on the side because A) he likes to lift weights, B) he enjoys training people, and C) he even gets to make some side cash.
Personally, I could never do personal training as a full time job, but for some extra cash on the side, why not?
The point I'm trying to get across fella is that 99percent of Americans know how to earn a living...only 1percent know how to create true wealth....thus why only 1 percent of Americans are wealthy...the path to earning a living can be a fun one for some and a rigid one for others...the path to creating wealth is one that very few even considering doing...we live in a capitalistic society ..most of us will never know that we are actually helping others achieve their wealth on our back's sake...most will live a life of fun and happyness living on a budget and being happy making 100k without actually ever tapping into our true wealth creating mindset....our society is brainwashed into believing that security thru jobs and corporate well being is how life should be...colleges have been setting this standard for years...the upcoming generation who love college and love being employees is our biggest risk..wealth is built thru innovation and taking risks...
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The point I'm trying to get across fella is that 99percent of Americans know how to earn a living...only 1percent know how to create true wealth....thus why only 1 percent of Americans are wealthy...the path to earning a living can be a fun one for some and a rigid one for others...the path to creating wealth is one that very few even considering doing...we live in a capitalistic society ..most of us will never know that we are actually helping others achieve their wealth on our back's sake...most will live a life of fun and happyness living on a budget and being happy making 100k without actually ever tapping into our true wealth creating mindset....our society is brainwashed into believing that security thru jobs and corporate well being is how life should be...colleges have been setting this standard for years...the upcoming generation who love college and love being employees is our biggest risk..wealth is built thru innovation and taking risks...
Wealth is subjective. With some people living comfortably, savings, some property, little to no debt is wealth. To others, no matter how much they have, it's never enough and usually results in problems. You make the decision.
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The point I'm trying to get across fella is that 99percent of Americans know how to earn a living...only 1percent know how to create true wealth....thus why only 1 percent of Americans are wealthy...the path to earning a living can be a fun one for some and a rigid one for others...the path to creating wealth is one that very few even considering doing...we live in a capitalistic society ..most of us will never know that we are actually helping others achieve their wealth on our back's sake...most will live a life of fun and happyness living on a budget and being happy making 100k without actually ever tapping into our true wealth creating mindset....our society is brainwashed into believing that security thru jobs and corporate well being is how life should be...colleges have been setting this standard for years...the upcoming generation who love college and love being employees is our biggest risk..wealth is built thru innovation and taking risks...
flawed logic.
what percentage of that "1%" actually created their wealth?
I know a lot of wealthy people in that "1%", and a good % of them didn't 'create' their wealth.
and so what? so what if the new generation wants to be professional students and work for somebody else all their lives? I say GOOD.... more for me. Reminds me of these "doomsday" theory people thinking the world is gonna end and they're building bunkers and stockpiling food and telling everybody about it. If you really think that, why on earth would you want everybody else to be as prepared as you? wouldn't YOU want the advantage of being ready when nobody else is?
Let everybody else keeping doing what they're doing... those of us who aspire to be successful and manage risks will keep doing what we're doing.
Usually the people who complain about the world's 99% not knowing how to "create wealth" are no different from the people they're complaining about.
If you really were a "mogul" and wealthy, wtf would you be doing here wasting your time telling a bunch of faceless-names how clueless they are? wouldn't it BENEFIT you if they continued to be clueless? wouldn't it mean more money in your pocket? and less competition for you?
For that reason alone, I believe you're a kid in his 2nd year of JC who just took a summer course on Econ.
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flawed logic.
what percentage of that "1%" actually created their wealth?
I know a lot of wealthy people in that "1%", and a good % of them didn't 'create' their wealth.
and so what? so what if the new generation wants to be professional students and work for somebody else all their lives? I say GOOD.... more for me. Reminds me of these "doomsday" theory people thinking the world is gonna end and they're building bunkers and stockpiling food and telling everybody about it. If you really think that, why on earth would you want everybody else to be as prepared as you? wouldn't YOU want the advantage of being ready when nobody else is?
Let everybody else keeping doing what they're doing... those of us who aspire to be successful and manage risks will keep doing what we're doing.
Usually the people who complain about the world's 99% not knowing how to "create wealth" are no different from the people they're complaining about.
If you really were a "mogul" and wealthy, wtf would you be doing here wasting your time telling a bunch of faceless-names how clueless they are? wouldn't it BENEFIT you if they continued to be clueless? wouldn't it mean more money in your pocket? and less competition for you?
For that reason alone, I believe you're a kid in his 2nd year of JC who just took a summer course on Econ.
Haha...Econ 101 is serious business ....moving onto macro economics shortly...lol...
I thought getbig was full of millionaires with women on dial for pussy..
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With the field you're in, you'll never have to worry about making extra money. Especially here in LA.
haha, yes! But to be honest I still would like to train some people. I enjoy lifting and would not mind training a few clients per week! Id have to get certified and everything!
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The point I'm trying to get across fella is that 99percent of Americans know how to earn a living...only 1percent know how to create true wealth....thus why only 1 percent of Americans are wealthy...the path to earning a living can be a fun one for some and a rigid one for others...the path to creating wealth is one that very few even considering doing...we live in a capitalistic society ..most of us will never know that we are actually helping others achieve their wealth on our back's sake...most will live a life of fun and happyness living on a budget and being happy making 100k without actually ever tapping into our true wealth creating mindset....our society is brainwashed into believing that security thru jobs and corporate well being is how life should be...colleges have been setting this standard for years...the upcoming generation who love college and love being employees is our biggest risk..wealth is built thru innovation and taking risks...
Wow, great. You can speak for yourself but not for others. As Coach said, being "wealthy" is subjective. Some people have no desire to accrue all that money. Plus, given the limited resources in this world, it would be impossible for every single person to become a millionaire or billionaire.
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personal trainer schmoe :D