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I thing we've been living in a dream. Time to wake up >:(
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Define "bad guys"
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Define "bad guys"
read his post that defines bad right there
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Define "bad guys"
From the top down, President, Congress, Army, Police. All rat bastards.
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If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would turn in their graves.
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Who aw the good guys? Syria? Afghanistan? Move there. They hang you with a phone cord off the back of a Toyota for calling them 'bad guys'
America fuck yeah!
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If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would turn in their graves.
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This is a bold statement and I'm sure it'll ruffle people's feathers, but as long as these people are in office, WE are the bad guys. Look around.
(Steps off soapbox)
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If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would turn in their graves.
If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would start launching nukes at other countries.
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If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would start launching nukes at other countries.
I thought they were against foreign entanglements?
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I thing we've been living in a dream. Time to wake up >:(
you just woke up, didn't you? You enjoyed that dream that they sold you?
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We're a giant war machine, nothing more.
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America is the keeper of civilization.
That's just the way it is.
I highly doubt anyone else could do it and could do it better.
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There is no good or bad...just top and bottoms.
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There is no good or bad...just top and bottoms.
We need mars or dji81 to take over as President when Obama leaves and straighten shit out.
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We need mars or dji81 to take over as President when Obama leaves and straighten shit out.
I'd vote for mr.knowbody...
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Good post bro I'm proud of you for finding the true heart mind and soul you have been blessed with, you stated Americans been living a dream an illusion the created manufactured systematic brainwashing and I'm proud you are seeing the dots and ago ing the strength and true power of the mind you have been blessed with, props bro I appreciate your post! C*SWOLIOSIS!
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I'd vote for mr.knowbody...
A would just be a figure head President, Cswol Vice President would have to make the decisions.
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Hello Stark gimmick
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Feel free to book a one way ticket elsewhere...last time I checked, you certainly have that freedom to choose!
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We're a giant war machine, nothing more.
War Machine, Prison Machine, etc.
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Yes, lets just do nothing and let the Muslim`s breed and breed and breed and instill Theocracies worldwide to restore the Caliphate (what they want to do) so they can earn their "right" to be a ThermoNuclear Theocracy.
The lot of you are morons.
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Yes, lets just do nothing and let the Muslim`s breed and breed and breed and instill Theocracies worldwide to restore the Caliphate (what they want to do) so they can earn their "right" to be a ThermoNuclear Theocracy.
The lot of you are morons.
This. Any opportunity to vanquish that lot should be embraced.
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Yes, lets just do nothing and let the Muslim`s breed and breed and breed and instill Theocracies worldwide to restore the Caliphate (what they want to do) so they can earn their "right" to be a ThermoNuclear Theocracy.
The lot of you are morons.
Haha and I'm sure you will be there on the frontlines doing battle...oh brother
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Yes, lets just do nothing and let the Muslim`s breed and breed and breed and instill Theocracies worldwide to restore the Caliphate (what they want to do) so they can earn their "right" to be a ThermoNuclear Theocracy.
The lot of you are morons.
So, would God be on our side then?
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Any countries that don't want their throats slit should immediately suspend immigration from Arab/Muslim countries. Too bad liberal douchebags have a such a hard on for multiculturalism they would rather stick their head in the sand than admit what is happening. Radical Islam is on the move. They want your land, your wealth, and your head on a fucking stake. Anybody who thinks the USA is the bad guys, best of luck to you when these animals are in charge of the world.
The USA is imperfect but we are the best hope for freedom and liberty in the world. If you are against us then suck nuts. Fuck you and your fucking mama. Choke on a dick and then die.
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Any countries that don't want their throats slit should immediately suspend immigration from Arab/Muslim countries. Too bad liberal douchebags have a such a hard on for multiculturalism they would rather stick their head in the sand than admit what is happening. Radical Islam is on the move. They want your land, your wealth, and your head on a fucking stake. Anybody who thinks the USA is the bad guys, best of luck to you when these animals are in charge of the world.
The USA is imperfect but we are the best hope for freedom and liberty in the world. If you are against us then suck nuts. Fuck you and your fucking mama. Choke on a dick and then die.
Will you run in 2016? You got my vote.
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So, would God be on our side then?
There is no God. But people who are bat shit religious crazy with ThermoNuclear capability are a danger to everyone.
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Any countries that don't want their throats slit should immediately suspend immigration from Arab/Muslim countries. Too bad liberal douchebags have a such a hard on for multiculturalism they would rather stick their head in the sand than admit what is happening. Radical Islam is on the move. They want your land, your wealth, and your head on a fucking stake. Anybody who thinks the USA is the bad guys, best of luck to you when these animals are in charge of the world.
The USA is imperfect but we are the best hope for freedom and liberty in the world. If you are against us then suck nuts. Fuck you and your fucking mama. Choke on a dick and then die.
Its the new "in thing" for Republicans to be against ending the Muslim Menace. Its hilarious.
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Haha and I'm sure you will be there on the frontlines doing battle...oh brother
You belong in Palestine during the 11th hour with the rumble of a B-52 overhead.
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Any countries that don't want their throats slit should immediately suspend immigration from Arab/Muslim countries. Too bad liberal douchebags have a such a hard on for multiculturalism they would rather stick their head in the sand than admit what is happening. Radical Islam is on the move. They want your land, your wealth, and your head on a fucking stake. Anybody who thinks the USA is the bad guys, best of luck to you when these animals are in charge of the world.
The USA is imperfect but we are the best hope for freedom and liberty in the world. If you are against us then suck nuts. Fuck you and your fucking mama. Choke on a dick and then die.
LOLOLOL...This is bullshit. We are the headquarters of evil. Don't be a fool. We've been hijacked by a rogue government.
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LOLOLOL...This is bullshit. We are the headquarters of evil. Don't be a fool. We've been hijacked by a rogue government.
There you go speaking that Hebro again.
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If I suspect that you are involved in things that goes against american interest I will put a bomb on a remote control plane and kill you on the spot without a fair trial, does that sounds like something a good guy would do, wake up people.
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USA
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"Say good bye to the bad guy." -T. Montana
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America is the keeper of civilization.
That's just the way it is.
I highly doubt anyone else could do it and could do it better.
the keeper of a "certain kind of civilization", it doesnt mean it's the one that will survive. The cvilization of the future will be a mix of current and past civilizations merged together that kept what worked -insured survival of the best, richest ones- and removed what didnt.
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So, would God be on our side then?
Gott mit uns...
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Any countries that don't want their throats slit should immediately suspend immigration from Arab/Muslim countries. Too bad liberal douchebags have a such a hard on for multiculturalism they would rather stick their head in the sand than admit what is happening. Radical Islam is on the move. They want your land, your wealth, and your head on a fucking stake. Anybody who thinks the USA is the bad guys, best of luck to you when these animals are in charge of the world.
The USA is imperfect but we are the best hope for freedom and liberty in the world. If you are against us then suck nuts. Fuck you and your fucking mama. Choke on a dick and then die.
the goal of westerners is to rise in society by using your intelligence to work, earn money and fuck others in the ass, get at the top of the pyramid. This is essentially the western philosophy of life. As long as you dont get caught, are smart enough to hide how you got there, it's allright. Other decide to develop maffias to survive, others pick being welfare recipients all lif elong as their main strategy of survival. There s no dumb strategy of survival, as long as it works. But in the end, all strategies of survival fail ultimately as everything that lives is mortal.
It's exactly the same process at work everywhere else on the planet, in all countries, communities, whatever the religion; because we are animals, these rules, principles, are animal ones; all humans run after the same things, we are all the fucking same.
Wether muslims , chinese orthodoxian christian russians or atheist westerners take over the world, in the end we will destroy each others for the last remaining ressources, it cannot be otherwise. Mankind will disapear just like dinosaurs and other past animal species. Mankind has an end, it's not a matter of if, but when. "How" is what keeps us interested in understanding how we will disapear. Probably some kind of sublimation process.
Odds are high humans from the future will be a mix chinese, russians, europeans, africans, and north americans. Only a few survivors having all the knowledges and powers, "gods".
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So, would God be on our side then?
That's the funny, all humans on earth are convinced their "god" (allah, buddha, shiva, etc) are with them and not with the enemy. In fact they re confusing their own survival, their interests, with the will of a "god". "god" is the ultimate, perfect man/animal , and this concept is embeded in all human minds. In the end only the strongest, smartest, fitest will survive, I guess the survivors will consider their God to be the right one, as he will be the only one standing. At this point they ll probably realize they are, the god they believed in.
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The whole world is in trouble not just America. Technology is the culprit.
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There is no God. But people who are bat shit religious crazy with ThermoNuclear capability are a danger to everyone.
This x 10!
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If Ben Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the present day America they would turn in their graves.
They weren't saints either.
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Will you run in 2016? You got my vote.
I would run but I'm too real for the masses. At this point in time most people would rather be bullshitted. It's what they have gotten comfortable with these last 200 plus years. Reality is often unpleasant hence the fact that "hope and change" was a winning slogan. I appreciate your support though.
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I would run but I'm too real for the masses. At this point in time most people would rather be bullshitted. It's what they have gotten comfortable with these last 200 plus years. Reality is often unpleasant hence the fact that "hope and change" was a winning slogan. I appreciate your support though.
Reality eh? Don`t you believe in fairy tales? ;)
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Reality eh? Don`t you believe in fairy tales? ;)
No, but I believe you are a fairy, so tell me a tale. :D
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Adonis is going post crazy today.
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Bad guy
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/08/30/DeMarquise-Elkins-guilty-brunswick-baby-shooting?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/08/30/DeMarquise-Elkins-guilty-brunswick-baby-shooting?hpt=hp_t2)
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a lot of freedom haters running rampant in this thread
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We re all someone else s bad guy.
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We re all someone else s bad guy.
I thought you were a religious nut?
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a lot of evildoers up in this bitch
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Looks like we might have a getbig civil war. I wouldn't mind eliminating some useless godless sheep.
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Looks like we might have a getbig civil war. I wouldn't mind eliminating some useless godless sheep.
You wouldn`t be the first Christian that wanted to try that. :D
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Not all Arabic/Muslims are bad. I have a lot of great friends who are Muslim and they never pressure me or anything.
I personally think all religions are stupid and that Islamic ones lead the pack. But I don't think that people should die because they're stupid. The dangerous, radicals however, kill those people. They're far too brainwashed to fit into society.
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Not all Arabic/Muslims are bad. I have a lot of great friends who are Muslim and they never pressure me or anything.
I personally think all religions are stupid and that Islamic ones lead the pack. But I don't think that people should die because they're stupid. The dangerous, radicals however, kill those people. They're far too brainwashed to fit into society.
Agreed. I also feel we should make fun of them at every turn and not give any automatic respect at all. If I told someone that Fast and the Furious is the only thing that constitutes art, that opinion would not be respected at all. I never have understood why any religion should get automatic respect when its just an opinion based on complete bullshit.
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Agreed. I also feel we should make fun of them at every turn and not give any automatic respect at all. If I told someone that Fast and the Furious is the only thing that constitutes art, that opinion would not be respected at all. I never have understood why any religion should get automatic respect when its just an opinion based on complete bullshit.
I really like The Fast and the Furious movies. Are we going to have issues? You are my #2 ranked poster of all time. Do not make me regret it.
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I really like The Fast and the Furious movies. Are we going to have issues? You are my #2 ranked poster of all time. Do not make me regret it.
What entity is number one?
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Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
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What entity is number one?
Onemorerep. He makes gay cool.
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Looks like we might have a getbig civil war. I wouldn't mind eliminating some useless godless sheep.
Killing people is the Christian thing to do.
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The media thing is getting old 99%of Muslims in this country are very good people morally, not even the UK will help you this time it's clear the us government is corrupt they do not fight for you. If they really cared about the other countries why aren't they taking care of all the starving people in Africa and all the women raped there. There were no starving kids in Iraq but suddenly had a big interest in them despite no weapons there at all. Wake up you ignorant clowns. The only country attacking other countries is the US. Imagine if Russia just decided to start bombing your homes saying it was saving the world n sure you'd have a resentment towards them.
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Agreed. I also feel we should make fun of them at every turn and not give any automatic respect at all. If I told someone that Fast and the Furious is the only thing that constitutes art, that opinion would not be respected at all. I never have understood why any religion should get automatic respect when its just an opinion based on complete bullshit.
I give all sentient beings a small amount of respect by default. But it takes very little for me to revoke that respect. When people run around with burning flags screaming "Allah Akbar" in a violent tone or "Death to Americans" which is a bit more of a direct threat, they immediately get shifted over to the I-hope-you-fucking-burn-in-hell list.
Religion isn't something I judge people on too harshly. Someone may claim to follow a certain belief but don't really do anything orthodox or by the book. A piece of shit by any other colour or smell is still a piece of shit.
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Define "bad guys"
Dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese civilian population, agent orange in Vietnam, depleted uranium and white phosphorous in Iraq, destabilized Libya and Afghanistan, now funding terrorists to destroy Syria. Bad guys. Scumbag war criminals.
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He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians.
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LOLOLOL...This is bullshit. We are the headquarters of evil. Don't be a fool. We've been hijacked by a rogue government.
Wigg you a so ANTI American that you stink on it, if you hate the good old U.S.A., simply fuck of to Zimbabwe or Somalia.
You pretend to be a black Jew, WOW ::) but Israel is pro American to the max.
No chance for you in western countries like Canada,Australia,Euro Union ;D
You a worthless for Russians too, Moscow skinheads would "love" your black arse ;D
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Killing people is the Christian thing to do.
Reminder, WIGG is selfproclaimed JEW ::)
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Dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese civilian population, agent orange in Vietnam, depleted uranium and white phosphorous in Iraq, destabilized Libya and Afghanistan, now funding terrorists to destroy Syria. Bad guys. Scumbag war criminals.
I wouldn't include bombing Japan in your list. I recently watched the 15-hour Ken Burns documentary about World War 2 on Netflix and now think that dropping atomic bombs on civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the correct thing to do. Japan would not have surrendered otherwise and many times more lives would have been lost if the Allies had needed to invade Japan. At the time the bombs were dropped, Japanese civilians were being trained to "fight to the last man" during the rapidly approaching invasion by the Allies and only after their entire people were threatened with extinction via atomic bombs did they consider surrendering. (Also, according to the doc, the Japanese only barely decided to surrender even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been taken out.)
BTW, the 2007 documentary ("The War") was excellent and really gave me an appreciation for the kind of shit so many of the older generation had to endure.
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I bet a lot of you pro war fools would cry like bitches if you got nuked and watched your families slowly die, get raped, etc etc
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Yes, lets just do nothing and let the Muslim`s breed and breed and breed and instill Theocracies worldwide to restore the Caliphate (what they want to do) so they can earn their "right" to be a ThermoNuclear Theocracy.
The lot of you are morons.
But aren't Al Quaida a big part of the rebel movement? Won't that be far worse?
Does Obama know he’s fighting on al-Qa’ida’s side?
If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qa’ida.
The men who destroyed so many thousands on 9/11 will then be fighting alongside the very nation whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago. Quite an achievement for Obama, Cameron, Hollande and the rest of the miniature warlords.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/does-obama-know-hes-fighting-on-alqaidas-side-8786680.html
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If it wasn't for America. China would within hours attack Taiwan who is a former state of china, then Japan, and probably Sounth and possibly even North Korea would.
Russia would imminently invade Georgia and then take back the rest of the former Soviet Union states one by one.
Pakistan/Afghanistan and India would attack each other, likely a full blown nuclear war.
The Middle East would be one huge civil war and Iran/Syria would probably attack Israel.
Further down the line Russia would probably try to acquire Scandinavia, as they have done before with Finland.
Great Britan, France, Germany would probably vote against getting involved.
Brazil and Mexico would probably keep some order in South America but there would be domestic chaos.
Winers would be: Canada, Africa and Island. Possibly Germany, Great Britain and France, depends on what Russia does.
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I wouldn't include bombing Japan in your list. I recently watched the 15-hour Ken Burns documentary about World War 2 on Netflix and now think that dropping atomic bombs on civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the correct thing to do. Japan would not have surrendered otherwise and many times more lives would have been lost if the Allies had needed to invade Japan. At the time the bombs were dropped, Japanese civilians were being trained to "fight to the last man" during the rapidly approaching invasion by the Allies and only after their entire people were threatened with extinction via atomic bombs did they consider surrendering. (Also, according to the doc, the Japanese only barely decided to surrender even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been taken out.)
BTW, the 2007 documentary ("The War") was excellent and really gave me an appreciation for the kind of shit so many of the older generation had to endure.
This is the justification / propaganda commonly put out. It's been said that Japan was trying to make contact to surrender, but the bombs were dropped anyway, as it was determined that they (U.S), needed to see the real world effects of the atomic bomb, which is why those cities were specifically selected. Regardless, it was wrong, period. People forget that it was a civilian population that got bombed. People would not condone it if it were their civilian population to get vaporized, but when it's another countries, it's ok. Nationalism and patriotism makes a populace indifferent towards other cultures, which makes atrocities committed against those populations more palatable.
It's ironic that history in many respects just keeps repeating itself, but people fail to see through the false veneer of righteousness that gets peddled, depending on who the perpetrators are. Hitler and the Nazis are considered tyrants for invading Europe decades ago, but when the U.S invades countries and destroys them, as in the case of Iraq and Libya, it's about freedom and democracy. It's incredulous that there is a large percentage of people out there that buy into such grade school level propaganda, but it doesn't help when the corporate media sells it so hard.
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Little known war fact - in the fight between Germany and Britain, it was Britain who initiated the bombing of civilian cities in WWII. Germany had refrained from bombing British cities until Britain started it.
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Little known war fact - in the fight between Germany and Britain, it was Britain who initiated the bombing of civilian cities in WWII. Germany had refrained from bombing British cities until Britain started it.
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Brutal truth that will go ignored.
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what is the Afghanistan involvement all about/ for?
because Afghanistan is neighbor to Pakistan who is a nuclear arms power. Afghanistan has faild to control domestic talibans and other extremist muslims groups. This is a bad situation.
it's not fair that the US has to do it for them but, there is no alternative and everything would get worse down the road if you let it go out of control.
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do you realy believe that?
do you know how many people have been killed on that reasoning ?
1. yes it's officially why America is involved in Afghanistan and also what I think is most likely that they are telling the truth about
2. no I don't know the collateral in the middle east for the last 10 years, but I'm sure it's in the millions by now.
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because Afghanistan is neighbor to Pakistan who is a nuclear arms power. Afghanistan has faild to control domestic talibans and other extremist muslims groups. This is a bad situation.
it's not fair that the US has to do it for them but, there is no alternative and everything would get worse down the road if you let it go out of control.
You do realize America created the Taliban?
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You do realize America created the Taliban?
WHAT?????
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You do realize America created the Taliban?
LOL most don't know the year their country became independent.
Do you really think they have bothered to study history enough to know these kind of things :D
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This is the justification / propaganda commonly put out. It's been said that Japan was trying to make contact to surrender, but the bombs were dropped anyway, as it was determined that they (U.S), needed to see the real world effects of the atomic bomb, which is why those cities were specifically selected. Regardless, it was wrong, period. People forget that it was a civilian population that got bombed. People would not condone it if it were their civilian population to get vaporized, but when it's another countries, it's ok. Nationalism and patriotism makes a populace indifferent towards other cultures, which makes atrocities committed against those populations more palatable.
It's ironic that history in many respects just keeps repeating itself, but people fail to see through the false veneer of righteousness that gets peddled, depending on who the perpetrators are. Hitler and the Nazis are considered tyrants for invading Europe decades ago, but when the U.S invades countries and destroys them, as in the case of Iraq and Libya, it's about freedom and democracy. It's incredulous that there is a large percentage of people out there that buy into such grade school level propaganda, but it doesn't help when the corporate media sells it so hard.
agreed 100% Another fine example is the relentless bombing of German and Japanese cities, killing numerous civilians.
So the US will attack Syria and what are the goals....
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Little known war fact - in the fight between Germany and Britain, it was Britain who initiated the bombing of civilian cities in WWII. Germany had refrained from bombing British cities until Britain started it.
The British also invented the concentration camps to 'lock up' the 'Boers' in the South African war. Unfortunately this inspired the Nazi who perfected this.
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agreed 100% Another fine example is the relentless bombing of German and Japanese cities, killing numerous civilians.
So the US will attack Syria and what are the goals....
1. Regime change in Syria.
2. Removal of a key ally of Iran, making Iran more vulnerable.
3. Further destabilization of the Middle East.
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you mean that you didnt know that resident Regan met a delegation of the Afgani Mujahadeen in the white house?
Perhaps the ex telephone number will provide the relvant photograph
So what? It is such a childish view to think allegiances never change. Not saying anything about the Syrian situation but I just always find these comments regarding who were once allies or enemies. Its all relative and fluid.
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You do realize America created the Taliban?
Yes, I know CIA radicalized the Muslims in 80's to fight against the Soviet invasion, especially of Afghanistan back then. So why does that matter to the task at hand now?
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Yes, I know CIA radicalized the Muslims in 80's to fight against the Soviet invasion, especially of Afghanistan back then. So why does that matter to the task at hand now?
Dont bother. These people view foreign affairs thru a view of an 8th grader.
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Its all relative and fluid.
so why wrap it up in moral certitude?
One of the weakness of the US empire is its inability to admit the empire. The non awareness or non admission makes its relative decline all the harder for it to understand.
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so why wrap it up in moral certitude?
One of the weakness of the US empire is its inability to admit the empire. The non awareness or non admission makes its relative decline all the harder for it to understand.
Uh. Where do you see me doing anything of the sort?
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Uh. Where do you see me doing anything of the sort?
ok
you are excused, now don't do it again
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This is the justification / propaganda commonly put out. It's been said that Japan was trying to make contact to surrender, but the bombs were dropped anyway, as it was determined that they (U.S), needed to see the real world effects of the atomic bomb, which is why those cities were specifically selected. Regardless, it was wrong, period. People forget that it was a civilian population that got bombed. People would not condone it if it were their civilian population to get vaporized, but when it's another countries, it's ok. Nationalism and patriotism makes a populace indifferent towards other cultures, which makes atrocities committed against those populations more palatable.
It's ironic that history in many respects just keeps repeating itself, but people fail to see through the false veneer of righteousness that gets peddled, depending on who the perpetrators are. Hitler and the Nazis are considered tyrants for invading Europe decades ago, but when the U.S invades countries and destroys them, as in the case of Iraq and Libya, it's about freedom and democracy. It's incredulous that there is a large percentage of people out there that buy into such grade school level propaganda, but it doesn't help when the corporate media sells it so hard.
You mean "incredible" instead of "incredulous" but I take your meaning. I'm no apologist for the USA at all but am wondering what course of action you think the USA should have taken instead of using atomic weapons on Japan in WW2. I'm no expert but from what I gleaned from watching the documentary, I don't think there were any more purely military targets, were there?; After years of long and bloody battles the Japanese, who hadn't lost a war since modernizing their armed forces in the 1890's but had grossly underestimated the fighting will and economic might of the USA before deciding to attack the US at Pearl Harbor, had fought ferociously and only grudgingly (at great loss of life by them and the Allies) given up all the islands around Japan. During the fighting they were guilty of their own atrocities including the "Rape of Nanking", the Bataan Death March, and the internment of western civilians (particularly from the Philippines) right alongside captured soldiers in Japanese prison camps. Many, many of the civilian prisoners died due to starvation in these camps and the documentary clearly shows the emaciated condition of the prisoners that survived until Japan surrendered. It may be propaganda that the Japanese would not have surrendered without having a couple of cities wiped out by the atomic bomb, but I think the argument that they'd not have surrendered without a lot more fighting holds some weight when you consider that they used freakin' Kamikaze pilots. If you have links that support your contention that such reasoning is BS, I will be happy to check them out.
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I bet a lot of you pro war fools would cry like bitches if you got nuked and watched your families slowly die, get raped, etc etc
I'm not pro-war but I would cry like a bitch for sure.
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agreed 100% Another fine example is the relentless bombing of German and Japanese cities, killing numerous civilians.
So the US will attack Syria and what are the goals....
Errr, how many civilians did the Germans kill?
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Yes, I know CIA radicalized the Muslims in 80's to fight against the Soviet invasion, especially of Afghanistan back then. So why does that matter to the task at hand now?
It matters in relation to your - "the USA are the only ones willing to deal with them - it's not fair" comments.
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Japenise surrendered before the bombs were droped
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Errr, how many civilians did the Germans kill?
Not to mention the plans of the Germans to invade the United States either from the Coast of North Carolina (which they did make it to and where several of their ships were sunk) or through their proposed invasion through Mexico.
http://nchumanities.org/programs/road-scholars/north-carolina%E2%80%99s-u-boats-%E2%80%93-u-85-u-701-u-352
Hitler declared war on the United States on Dec. 11, 1941 – four days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. German U-boats soon began crossing the Atlantic and sinking American shipping along the North Carolina coast. Some of these attacks were within sight of coastal residents. By August of that year three of these boats – U-85, U-701 and U-352 were also sunk within 20 miles of the North Carolina mainland. This PowerPoint presentation recounts a brief history of these boats, what remains of them today, and a detailed account of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s research expedition to them during the summer of 2008. During the expedition researchers surveyed and photographed the visible sections of the three submarines as well as studying the marine life found at the sites. The information collected during this expedition will be developed as part of a long range plan to preserve these historic sites.
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Japenise surrendered before the bombs were droped
Wikipedia says otherwise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan
The surrender of the Empire of Japan on September 2, 1945, brought the hostilities of World War II to a close. By the end of July 1945, the Imperial Japanese Navy was incapable of conducting operations and an Allied invasion of Japan was imminent. While publicly stating their intent to fight on to the bitter end, Japan's leaders, (the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War, also known as the "Big Six"), were privately making entreaties to the neutral Soviet Union to mediate peace on terms favorable to the Japanese. Meanwhile, the Soviets were preparing to attack the Japanese, in fulfillment of their promises to the United States and the United Kingdom made at the Tehran and Yalta Conferences.
On August 6, 1945, the United States dropped an atomic bomb on the city of Hiroshima. Late in the evening of August 8, 1945, in accordance with the Yalta agreements, but in violation of the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, and soon after midnight on August 9, 1945, the Soviet Union invaded the Imperial Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo. Later that same day, the United States dropped a second atomic bomb, this time on the city of Nagasaki. The combined shock of these events caused Emperor Hirohito to intervene and order the Big Six to accept the terms for ending the war that the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration. After several more days of behind-the-scenes negotiations and a failed coup d'état, Emperor Hirohito gave a recorded radio address across the Empire on August 15. In the radio address, called the Gyokuon-hōsō ("Jewel Voice Broadcast"), he announced the surrender of Japan to the Allies.
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Us Canadians are not bad guys plus we have the good beer :D
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BTW, lest I be branded as USA-love-it-or-leave-it type, I think that the USA has trampled on the rights of those in many other countries many, many times. (I'm surprised that that Mr.1derful did not mention anything about our shenanigans in South America.)
Just not so much during WW2 (with the shameful interment of Japanese-Americans being a notable exception). In WW2, the Japanese and the genocidal Germans pretty much got what they deserved, imo.
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This is the justification / propaganda commonly put out. It's been said that Japan was trying to make contact to surrender, but the bombs were dropped anyway, as it was determined that they (U.S), needed to see the real world effects of the atomic bomb, which is why those cities were specifically selected. Regardless, it was wrong, period. People forget that it was a civilian population that got bombed. People would not condone it if it were their civilian population to get vaporized, but when it's another countries, it's ok. Nationalism and patriotism makes a populace indifferent towards other cultures, which makes atrocities committed against those populations more palatable.
It's ironic that history in many respects just keeps repeating itself, but people fail to see through the false veneer of righteousness that gets peddled, depending on who the perpetrators are. Hitler and the Nazis are considered tyrants for invading Europe decades ago, but when the U.S invades countries and destroys them, as in the case of Iraq and Libya, it's about freedom and democracy. It's incredulous that there is a large percentage of people out there that buy into such grade school level propaganda, but it doesn't help when the corporate media sells it so hard.
Yes but nobody gives a fuck about these countries they invade. They're irrelevant.
The shit will start once Western nations turn on each other.