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Title: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 25, 2005, 07:17:58 PM
Gunter from the 05 Olympia VS Arnold 74 Olympia
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: theonlyone on December 25, 2005, 07:26:59 PM
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Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: 619Rules on December 25, 2005, 07:32:40 PM
Look at the detail in Arnold's delts, and how much bigger Arnold's delts are.......

The front shot-Gunter has Arnie beat.....
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: theonlyone on December 25, 2005, 07:42:26 PM
look at syntolish Barkus Cruel.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2005, 07:58:44 PM
arnold's chest and rib cavity was unique not seen much since him,his leg's were small but good seperation,ad his delt head's posed were very compete,he was tad slouch shouldered.and his pec's were overpowering but they were thick and full.today's pro's outmuscle him but his build in certain poses's had a different look than today's guy's ,even relaxed his pec's and arms were freaky full.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Loomis on December 25, 2005, 10:08:44 PM
I'm a huge Arnold fan, but I'm surprised to see him showing more mass than a current pro in a back shot.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: 619Rules on December 25, 2005, 11:24:39 PM
I'm a huge Arnold fan, but I'm surprised to see him showing more mass than a current pro in a back shot.

Arnold certainly has much more seperation.......must be the drug use today that is blurring the razor sharp definition out that the guys from the 70's had.........
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: phyxsius on December 26, 2005, 03:29:11 AM
Gunter VS Arnold
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: theonlyone on December 26, 2005, 07:46:04 AM
Arnold 72 Gunter 2002?
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: phyxsius on December 26, 2005, 07:57:10 AM
Arnold 72 Gunter 2002?

Gunter's face looked so fake
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on December 26, 2005, 08:03:56 AM
That pic of Arnold was taken in 75 in South Africa as he competed for his 6 Olympia.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Gord on December 26, 2005, 09:11:17 AM
Those shots latspread of Arnold are from 1975 when he was at his lightest competitive weight and size (other than the 1980 O), soon after losing a lot of bulk to film "Stay Hungry".

The side chest shot is from 1974 when he was a good 20 lbs heavier than his 1975 showing.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: sculpture on December 27, 2005, 06:59:39 AM
Those shots latspread of Arnold are from 1975 when he was at his lightest competitive weight and size (other than the 1980 O), soon after losing a lot of bulk to film "Stay Hungry".

The side chest shot is from 1974 when he was a good 20 lbs heavier than his 1975 showing.

Regardless of which mr o version arnold presents, he can't match gunter on front latspread period
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: phyxsius on December 27, 2005, 07:29:12 AM
Regardless of which mr o version arnold presents, he can't match gunter on front latspread period

Arnie is never known for his lats anyway
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Karl Kox on December 27, 2005, 07:33:09 AM
Arnold 72 Gunter 2002?

Gunter has a better V-Tapper then Arnold
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on December 27, 2005, 10:30:33 PM
Gunter from the 05 Olympia VS Arnold 74 Olympia

no god damn contest, guys.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Getting bigger on December 28, 2005, 01:25:58 AM
Gunter from the 05 Olympia VS Arnold 74 Olympia

Gunter must be embarrassed.

Arnies arms are much bigger, even though Gunter has better drugs available
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: (nothing) on December 28, 2005, 02:09:32 AM
even though gunter in obviously bigger and leaner i think arnold still beats him out on certain poses. gunters got him beat on the front lat. i won't take the legs into too much consideration just because legs in gerneral were smaller in arnold's era. i would feel bad if i was gunter, he is being compared to one of the greats. you can see where having a good quad sweep improves the appearence of your waist in these pics. i would say arnold and gunter have similar sized waisted maybe gunter is even bigger but in the front lat spread gunter's looks better but in the twisting shot it looks horrible.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Loomis on December 28, 2005, 10:50:55 AM
Arnold 72 Gunter 2002?
Gunter looks awesome in that pic!
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: sculpture on December 28, 2005, 01:49:17 PM
Arnie is never known for his lats anyway

Nice try at making excuses for arnold. He had huge lats that extended all the way down to his waist so don't come with that bullshit. Its the lower body where he gets smoked by G in that pose
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Slick Vic on January 13, 2006, 07:43:41 PM
Simply THE BEST  :)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/ga72.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Rudee on January 13, 2006, 08:01:47 PM
Look at the detail in Arnold's delts, and how much bigger Arnold's delts are.......

The front shot-Gunter has Arnie beat.....

Then again, black and white pics always look better then colour in terms of muscle hardness and detail.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Gord on January 14, 2006, 01:46:08 AM
Watch Pumping Iron and then watch the BFTO 2002 DVD.  There is no comparison between Gunter and Arnold in size.  A lot of these old Arnold pictures are close up or taken from a low angle.  They aren't as accurate as you might initially think.

The front lat spread of Gunter is also from 2000 and he still beats Arnold.  Today Gunter has also considerably improved in that pose.

True, Gunter is bigger than Arnold ever was since Gunter outweighs Arnold by a good 50 lbs. However, comparing Gunter to Arnold from his pumping iron shape (1975), where he had lost a lot of weight and size for filming reasons, is not exactly a fair comparison.

You'd find Arnold from his 1973/74 shape, although still not weighing anywhere near Gunter, compares much better size wise, as some of the pics in this thread (especially the first one by ND) show.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Topskin69 on December 26, 2009, 09:15:28 PM

Scary how a 72 Arnold is embarrassing a Current pro.

Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 26, 2009, 09:49:41 PM
Scary how a 72 Arnold is embarrassing a Current pro.


If you put the two side by side on stage, you'd see it was Gunter who would be doing the embarrassing...Gunter is over 300 pounds at 6'2. Arnold at 6'1 was 240, and not nearly as dry as Gunter.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 27, 2009, 12:10:53 AM
If you put the two side by side on stage, you'd see it was Gunter who would be doing the embarrassing...Gunter is over 300 pounds at 6'2. Arnold at 6'1 was 240, and not nearly as dry as Gunter.

Exactly.  It's shocking to me that people on here honestly think Arnold would stand a chance in modern day competition.  He may be a better spokesman for the sport and have more charisma, but by no means would he stand a chance in modern pro bodybuilding competition.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Swedish Viking on December 27, 2009, 12:24:52 AM
Sorry guys but Arnold is so far from Gunter it's not even comparible. It's just the pictures.  Gunter blocks out the sun and his delts are probably 2x the size Arnold's were.  That's how it's supposed to be, Arnold was a competitor in the '70s, no one expects him to still be better.  With the exception of Greg Kovacs in '96, I've never seen anyone bigger than Gunter, he's literally gigantic.     
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Kwon on December 27, 2009, 01:46:09 AM
Nobody can beat Arnolds Twisting Back Shot.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 27, 2009, 01:53:29 AM
Nobody can beat Arnolds Twisting Back Shot.

True, except for Gunter and all current Mr. Olympia competitors.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 27, 2009, 03:10:02 AM
Nobody can beat Arnolds Twisting Back Shot.
Flex W.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Meso_z on December 27, 2009, 03:55:24 AM
Scary how a 72 Arnold is embarrassing a Current pro.


::)

oh my god..........the ignorance.

put them Marcus, Gunther and Arnold in a lineup.  Arnold was 230 tops!!! gunther abou 300 on stage and so Marcus.

ignorant fucks.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Determinator on December 27, 2009, 04:38:59 AM
::)

oh my god..........the ignorance.

put them Marcus, Gunther and Arnold in a lineup.  Arnold was 230 tops!!! gunther abou 300 on stage and so Marcus.

ignorant fucks.
Or, in the case of yourself, thick ones.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: kevcat on December 27, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
Would Gunter be 300lbs in the 70s though? Or would Arnold NOT be heavier than 240 if competing today?
THATS ignornace
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Mussolini on December 27, 2009, 02:28:48 PM
Exactly.  It's shocking to me that people on here honestly think Arnold would stand a chance in modern day competition.  He may be a better spokesman for the sport and have more charisma, but by no means would he stand a chance in modern pro bodybuilding competition.

And its unfortunate because 99% of people find Arnolds body more appealing and would rather look like Arnold. This is just a reflection of how far the wrong way judging has become. Bodybuilding might have a bigger following if more appealing and desirable physiques were rewarded.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 27, 2009, 03:13:52 PM
And its unfortunate because 99% of people find Arnolds body more appealing and would rather look like Arnold. This is just a reflection of how far the wrong way judging has become. Bodybuilding might have a bigger following if more appealing and desirable physiques were rewarded.

So true..Arnold was the best!
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: affeman on December 27, 2009, 03:14:33 PM
Gunter = Most overrated Bodybuilder of all time
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 27, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
And its unfortunate because 99% of people find Arnolds body more appealing and would rather look like Arnold. This is just a reflection of how far the wrong way judging has become. Bodybuilding might have a bigger following if more appealing and desirable physiques were rewarded.

I would rather look like Brad Pitt.  Therefore, Brad Pitt has the best twisting back shot.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: jaejonna on December 27, 2009, 07:40:48 PM
Scary how a 72 Arnold is embarrassing a Current pro.


and in 74 he would own 90 percent of the pros today...
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 28, 2009, 12:17:26 AM
How else did anyone here think that bodybuilding would have evolved other than roughly how it did?
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 28, 2009, 12:33:22 AM
I would rather look like Brad Pitt.  Therefore, Brad Pitt has the best twisting back shot.

brad pitt pulls more pussy then all ifbb and npc bodybuilders combined.. LOL
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: younggunz on December 28, 2009, 12:37:38 AM
You guys are tripp'n! ::) YES, gunter is bigger, yes gunter is heavier, but this is a sport of illusion and shape! arnolds super tiny waste, and overpowering arms gave him a larger than life illusion even if he was 100lbs lighter, ARNOLD HAD A FRAME WHICH TO THIS DAY HAS NOT BEEN MATCHED! maybe flex...? ah get'n off track!. nothing against gunter, i like him alot i met him once in pebble beach, very classy with a great image, we need to market him more, chic's dig'm
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Post by: Pecs on December 28, 2009, 01:32:43 AM
Flex W.

beautiful!
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 28, 2009, 01:37:01 AM
brad pitt pulls more pussy then all ifbb and npc bodybuilders combined.. LOL


Hi Brad.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2009, 01:37:32 AM
You guys are tripp'n! ::) YES, gunter is bigger, yes gunter is heavier, but this is a sport of illusion and shape! arnolds super tiny waste, and overpowering arms gave him a larger than life illusion even if he was 100lbs lighter, ARNOLD HAD A FRAME WHICH TO THIS DAY HAS NOT BEEN MATCHED! maybe flex...? ah get'n off track!. nothing against gunter, i like him alot i met him once in pebble beach, very classy with a great image, we need to market him more, chic's dig'm
Arnold, never had a "super tiny waist", he even said so himself in Encylopedia of Bodybuilding that he had a wide waist. Hence him always doing those twisting side poses that he was famous for
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 28, 2009, 01:43:39 AM
Arnold, never had a "super tiny waist", he even said so himself in Encylopedia of Bodybuilding that he had a wide waist. Hence him always doing those twisting side poses that he was famous for

It was all relative to his competition , Arnold had a wide waist but it was very thin from the sides and tiny by today's standards
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: closeline on December 28, 2009, 03:49:28 AM
arnold with the gear of 09 would still be mr o
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2009, 03:53:41 AM
arnold with the gear of 09 would still be mr o
No he wouldn't he'd be Gunter..assuming you mean if he competed. THere are far too many genetically gifted bodybuilders today, as opposed to back then. IMHO Nubret and Oliva was Arnold's only real and true competition.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: closeline on December 28, 2009, 04:15:49 AM
No he wouldn't he'd be Gunter..assuming you mean if he competed. THere are far too many genetically gifted bodybuilders today, as opposed to back then. IMHO Nubret and Oliva was Arnold's only real and true competition.

bullshit

arnold had much better genetics (smaler hips, better chest, biceps, calfes, shape of the legs, over all seperation, bone structure...) + he is the man known for winning even against genetic superior athletes because of his superior mind set
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2009, 05:59:27 AM
bullshit

arnold had much better genetics (smaler hips, better chest, biceps, calfes, shape of the legs, over all seperation, bone structure...) + he is the man known for winning even against genetic superior athletes because of his superior mind set
You must be very good at sarcasm. Go pick up his Encylopedia of Bodybuilding. Arnold said he had a wide waist, especially if you look at him straight on. He also said he had sloping shoulders. His biceps overpowered his triceps. If he were to compete today he would be another Gunter. Period.

As far as superior mindset...Weeda felt he was superior to put on magazine covers. Arnold was not heads and shoulders above Nubret or Sergio in terms of physiques, but in terms of marketibility, he was a goldmine.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2009, 06:28:18 AM
You must be very good at sarcasm. Go pick up his Encylopedia of Bodybuilding. Arnold said he had a wide waist, especially if you look at him straight on. He also said he had sloping shoulders. His biceps overpowered his triceps. If he were to compete today he would be another Gunter. Period.

As far as superior mindset...Weeda felt he was superior to put on magazine covers. Arnold was not heads and shoulders above Nubret or Sergio in terms of physiques, but in terms of marketibility, he was a goldmine.
pretty fair analysis..
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: closeline on December 28, 2009, 12:22:21 PM
You must be very good at sarcasm. Go pick up his Encylopedia of Bodybuilding. Arnold said he had a wide waist, especially if you look at him straight on. He also said he had sloping shoulders. His biceps overpowered his triceps. If he were to compete today he would be another Gunter. Period.

As far as superior mindset...Weeda felt he was superior to put on magazine covers. Arnold was not heads and shoulders above Nubret or Sergio in terms of physiques, but in terms of marketibility, he was a goldmine.


dream on

if you would be right, - for example with your "waist-theory" - why does a blocky as hell cutler win in 2009
you cant be stupid enough to belive arnold wouldn t look better than cutler if h on the same shit


Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2009, 12:37:28 PM

dream on

if you would be right, - for example with your "waist-theory" - why does a blocky as hell cutler win in 2009
you cant be stupid enough to belive arnold wouldn t look better than cutler if h on the same shit



Use logic. Gunter and Cutler are diff, this discussion is about Arnold and Gunter. Both aprox the same height. Cutler is 5'8-9, and pushing 270. The weight and height makes a diff.

I have no waist theory. It is what it is. Look at Arnold straight on, relaxed, you see he had a wide waist. He said he would use twisting poses to minimize it. That is his words. Now look at Gunter, he has the same wide waist, in fact, he is practically Arnold @ 300 pounds.

Cutler has a extremely wide waist and frame. And he is not in the discussion. Try sticking to the talking points.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Aerian on December 28, 2009, 12:52:54 PM
Kevin Levrone has one of the best twisting back shots of all time imo.  His is better then both of these guys.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: delta9mda on December 28, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
ain zvai drai Barkus Cruel
hahaha and hulkster calls Yates "twigs on a barrel" hahahaha look at the pencils on arnold!!
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 28, 2009, 01:03:06 PM
Arnold would not even be able to win the Nationals if he competed today looking as he did back then.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 28, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Arnold would not even be able to win the Nationals if he competed today looking as he did back then.
Of course he would have, by using his superior mindset, he would outwit his opponents who outweighed him or had superior bodyparts. That's according to Closeline.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: lax on December 28, 2009, 02:05:50 PM
Kevin Levrone has one of the best twisting back shots of all time imo.  His is better then both of these guys.

Yeah
of course, KL has NO biceps peak to speak of
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 29, 2009, 12:51:46 AM
Of course he would have, by using his superior mindset, he would outwit his opponents who outweighed him or had superior bodyparts. That's according to Closeline.

 ;D

Maybe Arnold would win if all the other competitors had a disability and weren't smart enough to call him on his bullshit?  That's what "big men" do right, make fun of people who overcome disabilities?
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2009, 01:03:57 AM
;D

Maybe Arnold would win if all the other competitors had a disability and weren't smart enough to call him on his bullshit?  That's what "big men" do right, make fun of people who overcome disabilities?

"Ha ha, look at you, you little girly man....Why is your head 3x too small for your body? You shrunken head you..."

And then when called on this he would say, "I was only giving him the respect that one deserves for being disabled and getting up on stage with me."
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 29, 2009, 01:09:01 AM
"Ha ha, look at you, you little girly man....Why is your head 3x too small for your body? You shrunken head you..."

And then when called on this he would say, "I was only giving him the respect that one deserves for being disabled and getting up on stage with me."

Yeah, but Lou got him back at the Pumping Iron outtake from the reunion in 2002 when he flexed his biceps and said "Steal god id Ahnod."  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2009, 01:12:52 AM
Yeah, but Lou got him back at the Pumping Iron outtake from the reunion in 2002 when he flexed his biceps and said "Steal god id Ahnod."  ;D
Louie needs to work out...he keeps hearing his father in his head
"Louie, LOU-IEEEEE...more reps, more reps Louie"

The biggest owning is when Lou's own father called Arnold "The King"...that right there says it all.
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Matt C on December 29, 2009, 01:31:52 AM
Louie needs to work out...he keeps hearing his father in his head
"Louie, LOU-IEEEEE...more reps, more reps Louie"

The biggest owning is when Lou's own father called Arnold "The King"...that right there says it all.

LOL..."I want more weight, I wanna BEAT 'EM [voice cracks]".  ;D
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2009, 01:59:12 AM
LOL..."I want more weight, I wanna BEAT 'EM [voice cracks]".  ;D
His father: "Oh, what a workout, Louie." (pat's himself dry)
Title: Re: Arnold's Twisting Back Shot VS Gunters
Post by: closeline on December 30, 2009, 01:58:32 AM
Of course he would have, by using his superior mindset, he would outwit his opponents who outweighed him or had superior bodyparts. That's according to Closeline.

oh no boy

today he would be on stage with 315 pounds hard as Andreas Münzer (adviced by munzer in his years in Munich befor he went to usa  ;D)

and win 10 consecutive Mr O playing with todays farts as cutler oder tiny dex/heath

get it boy!