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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
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http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/2013/10/18/more-people-have-signed-up-to-go-to-mars-and-die-than-for-obamacare
LMAO
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explain why itīs dumb.
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explain why itīs dumb.
Cause it does not work and wont work
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/obamacare-train-wreck_n_4118041.html
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so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/294501-baucus-warns-of-huge-train-wreck-in-obamacare-implementation
Booom - this is the idiot who wrote it!
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/294501-baucus-warns-of-huge-train-wreck-in-obamacare-implementation
Booom - this is the idiot who wrote it!
in your words
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in your words
Forcing people to purchase private insurance from a private company w no cost control or choice is never going to work since those needed to purchase the insurance are too broke already to afford it
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Forcing people to purchase private insurance from a private company w no cost control or choice is never going to work since those needed to purchase the insurance are too broke already to afford it
so if you canīt afford it what happens ? so why a private Company?
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so if you canīt afford it what happens ? so why a private Company?
Ask Obama - its his law
http://nypost.com/2013/10/18/doctors-worried-sick-over-obamacare
Doctors hate it too
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ok at least in Germany you are treated most of the time fairly.
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so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.
There is nothing with people having insurance. There is everything wrong with claiming that obamacrapcare is actually the solution.
Explain how that law solves that problem. Explain why, if that law insures "poor people" then why does the CBO state that 30 million will continue to be insured?
That is the CBO.
Furthermore, why should someone be penalized or taxed for not having insurance when the damn website doesn't work and when there is nothing they can do to signup for the retarded crapcare program?
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There is nothing with people having insurance. There is everything wrong with claiming that obamacrapcare is actually the solution.
Explain how that law solves that problem. Explain why, if that law insures "poor people" then why does the CBO state that 30 million will continue to be insured?
That is the CBO.
Furthermore, why should someone be penalized or taxed for not having insurance when the damn website doesn't work and when there is nothing they can do to signup for the retarded crapcare program?
explain "poor People" so if you are "poor" in the USA you are scum and should not have medical cover ? I think everyone should be helped. If a Family is poor why should the Kids suffer?
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i do not Claim to understand your System but i think everyone should be able to have health care.
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http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obama-inc-gave-failed-obamacare-website-company-a-sweetheart-deal
booom
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/329313-obamacare-problems-mount
From Bad to Worse
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so is it wrong to make sure poor People are insured when they are ill? Explain in your own words why you think itīs wrong.
Middle class people aren't receiving the same subsidies for health insurance yet are being forced, through their tax dollars, to subsidize the health care of the poor. In my opinion this is inherently unfair.
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explain "poor People" so if you are "poor" in the USA you are scum and should not have medical cover ? I think everyone should be helped. If a Family is poor why should the Kids suffer?
You explain it.
You brought it up.
The solution is not obamacare. The CBO says that it will still leave 30 million uninsured.
It is a wasteful reform (it is estimated to cost 3 times what that libtards claimed it would cost to implement, they already spent $600 million on that stupid website), it increases rates for healthy young people, and it will increase dramatically the premiums that businesses have to pay for health care which will result is more part time jobs or even layoffs.
It is not what it was sold to the public and it doesn't solve anything. It is what it is. A step towards a single payer system.
Obamacare is crapcare. Hope this helps.
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You explain it.
You brought it up.
The solution is not obamacare. The CBO says that it will still leave 30 million uninsured.
It is a wasteful reform (it is estimated to cost 3 times what that libtards claimed it would cost to implement, they already spent $600 million on that stupid website), it increases rates for healthy young people, and it will increase dramatically the premiums that businesses have to pay for health care which will result is more part time jobs or even layoffs.
It is not what it was sold to the public and it doesn't solve anything. It is what it is. A step towards a single payer system.
Obamacare is crapcare. Hope this helps.
no one has really explained it fully. You see it one sided. As i wrote i do not know your System but i think that better payed People should pay more so that the "poor" People can also be treated.
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no one has really explained it fully. You see it one sided. As i wrote i do not know your System but i think that better payed People should pay more so that the "poor" People can also be treated.
What should be asked of the poor/uninsured in return? It seems fair to ask for something from them. If I agree to subsidize their healthcare and their income shouldn't they give in kind?
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What should be asked of the poor/uninsured in return? It seems fair to ask for something from them. If I agree to subsidize their healthcare and their income shouldn't they give in kind?
explain
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listen i pay into the System here but i think People ..all People should be health cared. All People.
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explain
The people who benefit the most from healthcare subsidizes and social programs arent giving back to society in any capacity. If we are to have a functioning and equitable social contract all participants of a society should be willing and required to give of themselves what they can even if it's only their time.
What should we ask of these people in return? If we as a society collectively agree to certain terms, like using our tax dollars to support people, shouldn't society have the right to demand something of those who receive our support? I think we do.
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The people who benefit the most from healthcare subsidizes and social programs arent giving back to society in any capacity. If we are to have a functioning and equitable social contract all participants of a society should be willing and required to give of themselves what they can even if it's only their time.
What should we ask of these people in return? If we as a society collectively agree to certain terms, like using our tax dollars to support people, shouldn't society have the right to demand something of those who receive our support? I think we do.
what do you expect from them ? and i take it you mean unemployed People?
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what do you expect from them ? and i take it you mean unemployed People?
ObamaCare is not healthcare - its a massive tax on the middle class to pay for parasites and locusts of society
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ObamaCare is not healthcare - its a massive tax on the middle class to pay for parasites and locusts of society
so ok you are saying unemployed should not be health cared?
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so ok you are saying unemployed should not be health cared?
Yea why not?
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Yea why not?
then i think you are a real asshole
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then i think you are a real asshole
he would actually agree with you on that
he has said it about himself and that he enjoys being an asshole
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he would actually agree with you on that
he has said it about himself and that he enjoys being an asshole
No one deserves anything for free wo being required to do something.
GhettoCare is nothing but a massive tax on the middle class to pay for worthless leeches and parasites who in turn will keep voting for the Candy Man
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he would actually agree with you on that
he has said it about himself and that he enjoys being an asshole
do not think he is a bad guy but maybe too many mood changes in his posts
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what do you expect from them ? and i take it you mean unemployed People?
That is the question, what should be required of them? I'm being required to give but they aren't. This doesn't seem like a fair exchange. Let me be clear, I'm referring to individuals who are long term defendants and those who habitually make irresponsible life choices as well as those who are receiving health coverage at tax payer expense.
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That is the question, what should be required of them? I'm being required to give but they aren't. This doesn't seem like a fair exchange. Let me be clear, I'm referring to individuals who are long term defendants and those who habitually make irresponsible life choices as well as those who are receiving health coverage at tax payer expense.
so to cut your clever post short ..unemployed People. Who could be you one Day- think about it
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so to cut your clever post short ..unemployed People. Who could be you one Day- think about it
I believe that a social safety net is a good thing. I happen to also believe that it's a persons civic duty as a responsible citizen to contribute.
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I believe that a social safety net is a good thing. I happen to also believe that it's a persons civic duty as a responsible citizen to contribute.
i agree but all People should be health cared
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i agree but all People should be health cared
At what expense? The ACA hands the insurance industry a lot of business, doesn't benefit those of my income level and costs tax payers money.
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At what expense? The ACA hands the insurance industry a lot of business, doesn't benefit those of my income level and costs tax payers money.
so answer my question..what do you expect from the poor People?
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so answer my question..what do you expect from the poor People?
I expect people to be responsible. If your receiving benefits for children you can't afford you should be required to be on birth control. If you contribute to your own health problems by smoking or being obese the cost of your carelessness should come out of your own pocket not the tax payers.
If you are a long term recipient of benefits you should be required to participate in some form of compensatory service in exchange for services rendered. There should be limitation on the duration a person can receive benefits and insurance subsidies.
That's just a start.
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I expect people to be responsible. If your receiving benefits for children you can't afford you should be required to be on birth control. If you contribute to your own health problems by smoking or being obese the cost of your carelessness should come out of your own pocket not the tax payers.
If you are a long term recipient of benefits you should be required to participate in some form of compensatory service in exchange for services rendered. There should be limitation on the duration a person can receive benefits and insurance subsidies.
That's just a start.
Birth control...like in China ? ???
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Birth control...like in China ? ???
As in the pill or Norplant.
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As in the pill or Norplant.
are you on medication ?
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I think so..anti depression
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are you on medication ?
Seriously, you're resorting to this kind of stuff?
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Seriously, you're resorting to this kind of stuff?
so you are
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itīs no Problem my friend.. i just know ..have a feel ;)
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so you are
No I'm not but it's sad you can't even have a discussion without resorting to accusations. What this kind of tactic demonstrates is you have nothing of value to contribute. Clearly this is your feeble attempt at putting me on the defensive so you can weasel out of the discussion. Anyone one with half a brain can see what you're trying to do.
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I Train People every day and read into your Posts.. i know it
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No I'm not but it's sad you can't even have a discussion without resorting to accusations. What this kind of tactic demonstrates is you have nothing of value to contribute. Clearly this is your feeble attempt at putting me on the defensive so you can weasel out of the discussion. Anyone one with half a brain can see what you're trying to do.
you are very Young. i see that
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I Train People every day and read into your Posts.. i know it
Another desperate attempt to elicit a negative reaction. I'm sorry that you've resorted to this. I was enjoying a good discussion.
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Birth control...like in China ? ???
Yes, birth control. Worthless rats breed more worthless rats. Future slum generations. I can think of no valid reason why I should prop up the lives of the unproductive. As another poster said, you have a contract with society. Everyone does their part. If everyone start leeching the host will be be overtaken and eventually die.
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Another desperate attempt to elicit a negative reaction. I'm sorry that you've resorted to this. I was enjoying a good discussion.
like i wrote you are a Boy of..maybe 18?
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Yes, birth control. Worthless rats breed more worthless rats. Future slum generations. I can think of no valid reason why I should prop up the lives of the unproductive. As another poster said, you have a contract with society. Everyone does their part. If everyone start leeching the host will be be overtaken and eventually die.
just wish they castrated your Father ::)
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I expect people to be responsible. If your receiving benefits for children you can't afford you should be required to be on birth control. If you contribute to your own health problems by smoking or being obese the cost of your carelessness should come out of your own pocket not the tax payers.
If you are a long term recipient of benefits you should be required to participate in some form of compensatory service in exchange for services rendered. There should be limitation on the duration a person can receive benefits and insurance subsidies.
That's just a start.
archer stop trying to have a legit discussion with a moron, your logical argument is obviously lost on this idiot.
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like i wrote you are a Boy of..maybe 18?
The further you move off topic the more apparent it becomes that you've exhausted all ability to engage in a rational discussion. You're desperately hoping to rattle me with accusations about my person but you will be disappointed because your efforts will fail. You're intentionally moving away from the topic because you have nothing worthwhile left to say about it.
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archer stop trying to have a legit discussion with a moron, your logical argument is obviously lost on this idiot.
One of my worst character flaws is that I try to give a person the benefit of the doubt. I understand his intentions are to create a diversion.
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The further you move off topic the more apparent it becomes that you've exhausted all ability to engage in a rational discussion. You're desperately hoping to rattle me with accusations about my person but you will be disappointed because your efforts will fail. You're intentionally moving away from the tipopic because you have nothing worthwhile left to say about it.
He has a bit of Coach inside him (literally?). Snipe from the sidelines without having a clue on the real issues.
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He has a bit of Coach inside him (literally?). Snipe from the sidelines without having a clue on the real issues.
He's trying to get a reaction out of me. He feels if he gets me to melt he's achieved the victory he failed to obtain during the discussion itself.
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just wish they castrated your Father ::)
But then who's going to pay for the unemployable and unemployed dirt? At least my tax can pay for another council estate whore. Like your mum innit.
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He's trying to get a reaction out of me. He feels if he gets me to melt he's achieved the victory he failed to obtain during the discussion itself.
agreed, cudos on not letting this troll get the better of you
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kids ??? ???
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agreed, cudos on not letting this troll get the better of you
Here is some food for thought. I think it relevant to the topic. Us white folks have given enough.
Recent evidence for greater altruism in whites than in other peoples has been published by Lisa Leslie and her colleagues at the University of Minnesota. They examined race differences in charitable giving as an expression of altruism (Leslie, Snyder & Glomb (2013). They studied charitable giving in a sample of 16,429 employees in a university. 54% of participants were female. Most participants were staff (78%) rather than faculty. The breakdown of the sample was Asian (6%), Black (5%), Hispanic (2%), Native American (1%), White (84%), and non-resident alien (3%). They gathered data on the amount each employee donated during the organizations annual month-long charitable giving campaign.
Employees were invited to donate to charities for alleviating or eliminating poverty, the support of education, and the treatment of illness. In examining the race differences in the amount of charitable giving, they controlled for salary, position, and age because these are likely to affect the amount of charitable donations. They found that women donated $31 more to the workplace charity drive than did men, consistent with other research showing that women are more altruistic than men They also found that all the minorities donated less to charity than did whites by an average $26. However, blacks gave more than whites to the black charity. These results show that whites are more altruistic than other races in giving more to charities that support all races. Blacks support their own race through charitable giving but provide less support than do whites to other races.
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^^^
not suprised at all
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Forcing people to purchase private insurance from a private company w no cost control or choice is never going to work since those needed to purchase the insurance are too broke already to afford it
Don't the broke folks get subsidized rates, though?
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Furthermore, why should someone be penalized or taxed for not having insurance when the damn website doesn't work and when there is nothing they can do to signup for the retarded crapcare program?
Is it the consensus that the website will always be broken? And aren't there other ways to sign up? Could have sworn I read that somewhere.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/329313-obamacare-problems-mount
From Bad to Worse
Waiting for you to most this:
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What should be asked of the poor/uninsured in return? It seems fair to ask for something from them. If I agree to subsidize their healthcare and their income shouldn't they give in kind?
I have a good idea. Just have the poor people contribute more when they start making more money. That's what they can do.
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so answer my question..what do you expect from the poor People?
He expects them to either not get sick or to die quickly but no matter what, he wants them to not bother him with their troubles.
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He expects them to either not get sick or to die quickly but no matter what, he wants them to not bother him with their troubles.
Actually, that is not what I want. I know believing that fits the narrative you've created that all people who disagree with any aspect of government social programs are heartless conservative republicans. Which I'm not by the way.