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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitnessFrenzy on October 21, 2013, 11:40:04 AM
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Healthy look of peace....
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Woke up got the fuck out.
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Hairline of peace.
Word has it Dillett can't lift his arms above the shoulders.
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Looking a lot more alive than some of the other guys from the era.
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I understand shrinking down for the health look but he actually looks skinny here, how can a mass monster like paul end up looking like this even if he comes off ....guess drugs are only the finishing touch.
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Hairline of peace.
Word has it Dillett can't lift his arms above the shoulders.
He had said way back when he was competing that he had to have an operation on his shoulders---basically he has (at the time) almost no cartilage in his joints...
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He had said way back when he was competing that he had to have an operation on his shoulders---basically he has (at the time) almost no cartilage in his joints...
Ouch!
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Ouch!
if you look at that out of shape pic that he did a few yrs back---where he is pushing his stomach out, you see scar tissue on his delts. If the scars are a result of his multiple surgeries, I don't know. The man known for his monsterous delts probably was hurting like hell.
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Looks happy :D
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i wonder what goes thru his mind when he sees women going crazy for random bbers with 18" arms or so
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An extreme case of sarcopenia undoubtedly. A mere shadow of his former self.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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i wonder what goes thru his mind when he sees women going crazy for random bbers with 18" arms or so
good question
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Slick Rick is still Alive ??? ???
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He's still alive, that quite an accomplishment.
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He's had his glory in bodybuilding, looks healthy and happy!
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Dillett is a man who squashed his addiction to steroids. There are plenty of guys from his era still hitting the sauce. Probably even Flex Wheeler :-X
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:)
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Good to see he is still alive the roid damage will cut his life short in the end.
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hebrew man in airport
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I understand shrinking down for the health look but he actually looks skinny here, how can a mass monster like paul end up looking like this even if he comes off ....guess drugs are only the finishing touch.
Because he's stopped training more than likely... Bb fans seem to have a difficult come realising that these guys are at a point of his life wheeee therer is more to life than eating chicken breasts and lifting weight ,,, more to life than muscles.... Bob fans cannot fathom that there is more to life..
I applaud him... Ronnie Coleman could take a leaf out of his book in that respect
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Blue jeans and jacket... the 90s are calling.
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Because he's stopped training more than likely... Bb fans seem to have a difficult come realising that these guys are at a point of his life wheeee therer is more to life than eating chicken breasts and lifting weight ,,, more to life than muscles.... Bob fans cannot fathom that there is more to life..
I applaud him... Ronnie Coleman could take a leaf out of his book in that respect
I agree, Paul is an inspiration as a human being.
Do you know about the business practices of his federation?
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I understand shrinking down for the health look but he actually looks skinny here, how can a mass monster like paul end up looking like this even if he comes off ....guess drugs are only the finishing touch.
no, the real question is how someone as skinny as him ends tripling his body weight, and the answer is drugs. Lettuce not forget all pro juicers "bbers" are 190 lbs top when completely off the drugs.
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no, the real question is how someone as skinny as him ends tripling his body weight, and the answer is drugs. Lettuce not forget all pro juicers "bbers" are 190 lbs top when completely off the drugs.
190 is being generous maybe for a 6'3 guy
But branch, dexter, Phil, kai, etc..would be lucky to even be 180 "lean" or ripped
More like if they stopped training and juicing completely ill say 155 or so given their height
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
Lol! Dillett was one of the best. That era will never be surpassed.
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
Plus he was over 6 ft tall
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The guys has retired and has giving up bodybuilding. After spending most of your adult life on enough drugs to kill a race horse I totally understand him taking his body in a different direction. Also, for him it must suck working out without being "on".
his insides must be totally fucked from years of abuse
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
This x 10!
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is he still a pimp who knocks women around?
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The guys has retired and has giving up bodybuilding. After spending most of your adult life on enough drugs to kill a race horse I totally understand him taking his body in a different direction. Also, for him it must suck working out without being "on".
his insides must be totally fucked from years of abuse
he was probably advised by people who didnt want him to die and actually had at least some clue about what the steroid use could lead to later, it is obvious most pro juicers are surounded by people who are mostly convinced-by the very same users, when they tell about it- it is completely safe. The amount of people who use drugs but have no idea what they actually do to their bodies and brains is staggering in most cases.
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No, he looks like an older Craig David.
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looking tanned
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Paul appreciates being still alive... (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50068.0;attach=51245;image)
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WOW, he went from 310-330 pounds with 23-24" upper arms to a guy who looks like he never lifted a day in his life. I guess he had to check his ego at the door to embrace this new lifestyle.
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Big headed twink of peace.
Looked amazing on gear. Lacked presentation skills. Still should have gotten better placings than he did in my opinion.
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Big headed twink of peace.
Lacked presentation skills.
Quite an understatement. I've never seen anyone look as awkward and uncomfortable trying to flex a muscle.
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Quite an understatement. I've never seen anyone look as awkward and uncomfortable trying to flex a muscle.
I can't remember but I think it was the 98 Olympia, homie was gassed and couldn't keep his stomach sucked in. He looked miserable up there.
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
X100.
Wooosshhhhhhhh
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
;D
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Good for him. He's choosing life..
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dude looks good ad has nothing to prove anymore....good for him!
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This is a real bodybuilder to me. Wide shoulders, narrow waist (not narrow shoulders lol) and long arms with small joints and full bellies AND the kicker.. a real blown wide chest straight from the 70's era. Structure at it's finest.
With a back he'd be Mr O but still a sight from the front. He fills out the shirt like you're supposed to
(no homo on this entire post)
HAHAHAHA FUNNY
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WOW, he went from 310-330 pounds with 23-24" upper arms to a guy who looks like he never lifted a day in his life. I guess he had to check his ego at the door to embrace this new lifestyle.
No he just does cross fit now.
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no, the real question is how someone as skinny as him ends tripling his body weight, and the answer is drugs. Lettuce not forget all pro juicers "bbers" are 190 lbs top when completely off the drugs.
the answer is food plus drugs, moron.
take all the drugs you want, without the food, you're not gonna grow. try to educate yourself and not speak on subjects you not dick about.
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no, the real question is how someone as skinny as him ends tripling his body weight, and the answer is drugs. Lettuce not forget all pro juicers "bbers" are 190 lbs top when completely off the drugs.
haha-drugs have been a part of bbing forever get over it--Paul had many years being a 300 lb freak-hes like close to 50 now retired years ago and smart-when a lot of pros retire-we move on-there is no need to be fucken huge anymore-and it feels good to have a more normal bodyweight when you spent 10-20 years walking around at 250 plus pounds and slamming down 7 meals a day and training 6-7 days a wk and your life revolved around it for years---.why the fuck would ya keep all the gear going and eating and hours and hours of training going when your done competing and retired--and are you kidding lol--most all top pros could still look very big compared to average people even if they were natural ,, its pretty simple- eat supplement and train like a natural competitive bber--but why whats the fucken point when your not competing any more----the muscle goes away when ya stop training and not givin a shit if ya get in 400 gr of protein a day lol...unreal ::)
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Considering he's not allowed out of his country of Canada, I'm guessing he's hanging out at the airport stealing peoples luggage...
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That's the thing if dillet stays 300 pounds everyone here is going to ridicule him, if he's skinny like he is now people are going to ridicule him. Either way u lose
Ruhl and Ronnie should down size more
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Actually he looks better than all those you know...midgets in professional bodybuilding
And he looks healthy
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Actually he looks better than all those you know...midgets in professional bodybuilding
And he looks healthy
He's not the only one who looks good/healthy today. Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Charles Clairmonte, and Dorian Yates do as well.
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We should have this man killed for trying to look like a normal human being.
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We should have this man killed for trying to look like a normal human being.
;D
shows you how people cannot see past bodybuilding and it's illusion
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That's the thing if dillet stays 300 pounds everyone here is going to ridicule him, if he's skinny like he is now people are going to ridicule him. Either way u lose
Ruhl and Ronnie should down size more
Correct, and I don't see a problem with that. The ridicule will make him a better, stronger person.
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That's the thing if dillet stays 300 pounds everyone here is going to ridicule him, if he's skinny like he is now people are going to ridicule him. Either way u lose
Ruhl and Ronnie should down size more
Presenting two options that are both negative (being skinny or 300 pounds retired) does not exactly make much of a point, at all. You're missing a fairly wide margin of "middle ground".
There are plenty of former pros who stay in shape and retain the lack of criticism that you're talking about. For one thing, nobody would be giving shit to Ronnie, how he looks now - IF he didn't turn up and guest post. I don't see anybody complaining about Dorian's shape, now, either.
Dillet is an extreme example of degradation, yes - but his reputation was probably the worst of all pros in the 90s for being just an absolute drug creation.
It's no surprise he became a twink. Easy come, easy go for that guy. I'd say he had his fill. I mean the dude literally became a statue on stage. Ridiculous.
Dillet is a freak of the highest order - he could go from where he is, now - to looking better than pretty much everybody on this board in half a year (assuming he has not destroyed his kidneys).
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damn, Paul give up all together on training it seems.....Paul was a master of Posing....he had a Cramping style
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Apparently he is CEO of a bodybuilding federation (news to me).. dunno whether it is to anybody else
http://www.youtube.com/user/wbffshows
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Apparently he is CEO of a bodybuilding federation (news to me).. dunno whether it is to anybody else
http://www.youtube.com/user/wbffshows
I'm CEO of the Flying Pancakes Federation.
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looking tanned
Must be the Hebrew tanning equipment aka "Bed of Moses" ;D
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Apparently he is CEO of a bodybuilding federation (news to me).. dunno whether it is to anybody else
http://www.youtube.com/user/wbffshows
I'm guessing he put some silly bodybuilding gig up just to have access to banging chicks...
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damn, Paul give up all together on training it seems.....Paul was a master of Posing....he had a Cramping style
LOL>
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHH
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can't live that lifestyle forever! It is hard on your body and gets very hard to do when you get older and people get sick of continually shooting up steroids and dieting and training everyday. The best way is to have your run for 5-10 years and go off the njuice and live a clean natural life and get some down ass hottie and settle down. If you live the bodybuilder life for too long your just going to make yourself sick.
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He's had his glory in bodybuilding, looks healthy and happy!
Agreed. He has moved on from the sport and just being a normal person. He obviously doesn't care about being a slave to the gym and is happy doing other stuff.
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i wonder what goes thru his mind when he sees women going crazy for random bbers with 18" arms or so
Nothing. He's been there, done that. Paul lives in Toronto. I have spoken to him a couple of times. He still works out using mainly pump weights. He is off, and completely clean. 6 ft 1. Looks to be very low 210s not 285 like his heydey. Not a tiny guy, actually has a bit of a gut. He had all the freaks he wanted in his bodybuilding days. He used to have 22- 23 inch arms at 285 lbs. To get hard 18 inch arms, the guy would have to go on very low dosages. At 40 something why would he care?
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The " finishing touch" comments always make me laugh.. You have to take into consideration that he does not want to be big.. He is lifting circuit style weights.. He's eating two or three meals a day.. Doing lots of cardio.. And yes, not taking any drugs.. If Paul had healthy joints and wanted to train heavier and eat more then he would surprise you.. But not his goal.. Drugs work great no doubt.. But when we see guys drop this much mass there are other things to consider..
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If I could attain any bodybuilders look it would be Pauls.
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Paul was Toronto's Super hero back then....the city felt safe with him...Toronto is looking for a successor....please apply within
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The guy was never passionate about lifting weights. He doesn't have the heart of an iron warrior. On this alone, in my mind, I am happy he didn't attain a Mr. Olympia title. Having said this, guys like Jay and Dexter don't have that heart, either.
I most recently sat with Paul when I was at MuscleMag several years ago and he was tall, skinny and pleasant. He had shorts on and you would never have guessed the man at one time had had any muscle on his wheels.
Dillett responds to gear in a freakish way. With rivers of drugs, pumping and lots of food he becomes an absolute monster. 155-pound Smith stiff-legged deadlifts? Good enough!
I watched him cramp and huff and puff many a time on stage. He always appeared he was seconds away from expiring. His back was just a watery mass of no detail and strangeness. He couldn't hit a pose without shaking and looking ridiculous. But just standing there, from the front, WOW.
He runs his bodybuilding/physique fed, still, I think.
On a side note, I have it on good authority he smashed Vickie Pratt into submission several times back in her glory days as a fitness model.
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The " finishing touch" comments always make me laugh.. You have to take into consideration that he does not want to be big.. He is lifting circuit style weights.. He's eating two or three meals a day.. Doing lots of cardio.. And yes, not taking any drugs.. If Paul had healthy joints and wanted to train heavier and eat more then he would surprise you.. But not his goal.. Drugs work great no doubt.. But when we see guys drop this much mass there are other things to consider..
"There's not substitute for steroids."
- Branch Warren Generation iron ( in Red box soon).
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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Presenting two options that are both negative (being skinny or 300 pounds retired) does not exactly make much of a point, at all. You're missing a fairly wide margin of "middle ground".
There are plenty of former pros who stay in shape and retain the lack of criticism that you're talking about. For one thing, nobody would be giving shit to Ronnie, how he looks now - IF he didn't turn up and guest post. I don't see anybody complaining about Dorian's shape, now, either.
Dillet is an extreme example of degradation, yes - but his reputation was probably the worst of all pros in the 90s for being just an absolute drug creation.
It's no surprise he became a twink. Easy come, easy go for that guy. I'd say he had his fill. I mean the dude literally became a statue on stage. Ridiculous.
Dillet is a freak of the highest order - he could go from where he is, now - to looking better than pretty much everybody on this board in half a year (assuming he has not destroyed his kidneys).
I see your point but there is also something to consider about Dillet and the same about Prince and Francois.... They got into health issues and most likely not juicing anymore. Probably completely off and want nothing in terms of even getting a little "size" to do with bodybuilding.
Guys like Dorian and Ronnie as mentioned are still hitting the juice and most likely flex but he's pumped so much shit into his arms who knows.
Guys like Dillet and Francois and finally even Prince completely walked away from the "lifestyle" and that means even carrying "significant size"
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so wahts the message here?
what is being implied?that he doesnt look like he trains anymore?
no shit,columbo!
he doesnt look as big as his former self?
what a shocking revelation.
he doesnt even train.
you know what happens when you dont train anymore,drugs or no drugs?
you know what happens?you curious about the answer?
well, for the majority:take shirt off and look in mirror.thats what happens.
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so wahts the message here?
what is being implied?that he doesnt look like he trains anymore?
no shit,columbo!
he doesnt look as big as his former self?
what a shocking revelation.
he doesnt even train.
you know what happens when you dont train anymore,drugs or no drugs?
you know what happens?you curious about the answer?
well, for the majority:take shirt off and look in mirror.thats what happens.
Exactly!
Drugs + food, training 3rd :D
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Blue jeans and jacket... the 90s are calling.
Fuck you, I still do that as well! >:(
Yes, I am an old man. ..
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I understand shrinking down for the health look but he actually looks skinny here, how can a mass monster like paul end up looking like this even if he comes off ....guess drugs are only the finishing touch.
He is still a pretty big dude. Just ugly as hell.
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I see your point but there is also something to consider about Dillet and the same about Prince and Francois.... They got into health issues and most likely not juicing anymore. Probably completely off and want nothing in terms of even getting a little "size" to do with bodybuilding.
Guys like Dorian and Ronnie as mentioned are still hitting the juice and most likely flex but he's pumped so much shit into his arms who knows.
Guys like Dillet and Francois and finally even Prince completely walked away from the "lifestyle" and that means even carrying "significant size"
Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.
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He is still a pretty big dude. Just ugly as hell.
Qft.
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Looks better than contest days.
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Dillett on the left..
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loking at that pic, "ectomorph" structure with drugs will be the best combo for this bbuilding thing.
mesomorph structure already flawed agains the above combo.
i say structure, as i dont believe much in the different metabolism thing.
ppl do have different metabolisms, but it doesnt mean an ectomorph burn more calories than the "fat" endomorph.
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loking at that pic, "ectomorph" structure with drugs will be the best combo for this bbuilding thing.
mesomorph structure already flawed agains the above combo.
i say structure, as i dont believe much in the different metabolism thing.
ppl do have different metabolisms, but it doesnt mean an ectomorph burn more calories than the "fat" endomorph.
Maybe because ectos tend to have smaller joints/a lighter frame making any gains in muscle more substantial?
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Maybe because ectos tend to have smaller joints/a lighter frame making any gains in muscle more substantial?
yeah, it looks bigger, need less gains to look more impressive.
wont suffer from huge waist syndrome.
and they have by nature smaller stomachs(the inside),so they cant really overeat much, this is why they leaner, not some faster metabolism.
and being smaller overall at the beginning could grant them much superior steroid response, if you know what i mean, ever seen how women blow up like crazy on even just bit anavar?smaller organism responds better to lower doses,and wiht higher doses, they just literaly explode.
you can tell, if someone doesnt get to say galeniko level on a gramm weekly, they simply not destined to a career in this.
bc from galeniko to even good amateur, is like 5 times more size(if you subsract the bones,etc).
and using 5gramms doesnt mean the gains will be 5times more.
so whats god genetics,imo the ppl who gain nicely on low doses.
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Makes sense.
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Here's another ecto possibly top ten all time ;D
Flex Wheeler also considered by many the best is also an ecto
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Here's another ecto possibly top ten all time ;D
Flex Wheeler also considered by many the best is also an ecto
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pic not showing up but this would be a good idea for a thread to see how many pure "ectos" made it far in bbing...
edit: ok now I see the pic
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Flex wheeler
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yeah def seems to be the case.
hell even skinnyfat tendency ectomorph frame seems better than the "optimal" mesomorph frame.
all the ones who have brutal waist size of barrell have started as blocky-chubsters.
the gains also come faster,or become visible faster on evry small frame.
whats th epoint of being 40lbs heavier than the other, yet the lighter guy still looks bigger?as has happened to many who stood next to flex wheeler.
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....................i see this happening to all you roid users after your done jamming those roids up you ass..
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You're going to die lol
.....................im pretty sure i'll out live most of you roid users.
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....................i see this happening to all you roid users after your done jamming those roids up you ass..
he stopped training you know.
a thing i see with naturals,is, they never seem to put on any kind of serious size.
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Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough his kidneys failed and he had to quit.
Fixed.
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Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.
Hey Pro Prince!
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Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.
I think Tom Prince posing for photos in his current state has repaired a lot of the ill will towards himself when he was moderator of doucheville (and a major architect of creating the doucheville regime), but I wouldn't go as far as to say he was "smart enough" to quit.
I think it's more like, when the kidneys stopped working, some are dumb enough to continue.
I respect TP more now that he has taken his humble pie - but I would not go as far as to say he was "smart" about it. The man almost certainly had a doctor tell him point blank - you will die if you continue to use steroids. I'm not going to be awarding that guy "intelligence" based on that type of advice. Either you stop, or you're a fucking moron. You're not smart for following the advice of a doctor.
As for naturals vs steroid users.. meh, look, if you're willing to take the risks and do steroids - do them. If you don't, just don't get on the internet and pretend that you're not jealous of those who are willing to take the risks. You're fooling nobody. There are positives and negatives for both and the fall from grace is most definitely the juicer's bane and something they just have to accept.
Not that steroids aren't the primary catalyst for these monsters - clearly, they are - just you know, turn the volume down on your jealousy brahs - you're making the pragmatic naturals look bad, too. Any natural that obsesses on juicers - sees people who are kind of strong or large and goes immediately to thinking about how they are juicing - weak minded fools.
Face the facts, if you're a natural, you're competing in the special olympics of bodybuilding. ;D
(and yeah, I am natural)
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I think Tom Prince posing for photos in his current state has repaired a lot of the ill will towards himself when he was moderator of doucheville (and a major architect of creating the doucheville regime), but I wouldn't go as far as to say he was "smart enough" to quit.
I think it's more like, when the kidneys stopped working, some are dumb enough to continue.
I respect TP more now that he has taken his humble pie - but I would not go as far as to say he was "smart" about it. The man almost certainly had a doctor tell him point blank - you will die if you continue to use steroids. I'm not going to be awarding that guy "intelligence" based on that type of advice. Either you stop, or you're a fucking moron. You're not smart for following the advice of a doctor.
As for naturals vs steroid users.. meh, look, if you're willing to take the risks and do steroids - do them. If you don't, just don't get on the internet and pretend that you're not jealous of those who are willing to take the risks. You're fooling nobody. There are positives and negatives for both and the fall from grace is most definitely the juicer's bane and something they just have to accept.
Not that steroids aren't the primary catalyst for these monsters - clearly, they are - just you know, turn the volume down on your jealousy brahs - you're making the pragmatic naturals look bad, too. Any natural that obsesses on juicers - sees people who are kind of strong or large and goes immediately to thinking about how they are juicing - weak minded fools.
Face the facts, if you're a natural, you're competing in the special olympics of bodybuilding. ;D
(and yeah, I am natural)
So.... Croatch.....
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So.... Croatch.....
Generally, I would advise you to study your comprehension skills, but given the speed of your reply, I think it's more likely you read what I said, very quickly and made the wrong judgement.
You've bolded sentences that are essentially, the antithesis of Croatch's stance.
Croatch thinks steroid users are pathetic.
I think naturals who complain about steroid users are just as pathetic.
Weak minded people take potshots at others to make themselves feel better about their own inadequacies.
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Here's another ecto possibly top ten all time ;D
Flex Wheeler also considered by many the best is also an ecto
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thats not ecto
too much muscle across the shoulders and chest
true ectos look like a rake
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fact is all these WORLD STRONGEST MAN dudes would look like ectos after concentration camp as well
this whole structure thing is a fabrication
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thats not ecto
too much muscle across the shoulders and chest
true ectos look like a rake
A meso would be a Shawn ray, Ronnie Coleman maybe even a jay cutler
Levrone most def ecto, he is skinny/small when off and just small to begin with, see his vid on YouTube called "burning Hollywood" or something like that
Ectos can have a bit of muscle on them and usually lean like the pic of young kev and who knows he was prob already lifting in the pic
I'm convinced like galenko said that training natural ectos are nothing special at all but juiced usually the change is very dramatic
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The guy was never passionate about lifting weights. He doesn't have the heart of an iron warrior. On this alone, in my mind, I am happy he didn't attain a Mr. Olympia title. Having said this, guys like Jay and Dexter don't have that heart, either.
I most recently sat with Paul when I was at MuscleMag several years ago and he was tall, skinny and pleasant. He had shorts on and you would never have guessed the man at one time had had any muscle on his wheels.
Dillett responds to gear in a freakish way. With rivers of drugs, pumping and lots of food he becomes an absolute monster. 155-pound Smith stiff-legged deadlifts? Good enough!
I watched him cramp and huff and puff many a time on stage. He always appeared he was seconds away from expiring. His back was just a watery mass of no detail and strangeness. He couldn't hit a pose without shaking and looking ridiculous. But just standing there, from the front, WOW.
He runs his bodybuilding/physique fed, still, I think.
On a side note, I have it on good authority he smashed Vickie Pratt into submission several times back in her glory days as a fitness model.
This.
I've seen him train... lazy, lazy, LAZY! All drugs.
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Generally,I would advise you to study your comprehension skills, but given the speed of your reply, I think it's more likely you read what I said, very quickly and made the wrong judgement.
You've bolded sentences that are essentially, the antithesis of Croatch's stance.
Croatch thinks steroid users are pathetic.
I think naturals who complain about steroid users are just as pathetic.
Weak minded people take potshots at others to make themselves feel better about their own inadequacies.
He was agreeing with you there rocket, outlining what was bolded is something crotch does.
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A meso would be a Shawn ray, Ronnie Coleman maybe even a jay cutler
Levrone most def ecto, he is skinny/small when off and just small to begin with, see his vid on YouTube called "burning Hollywood" or something like that
Ectos can have a bit of muscle on them and usually lean like the pic of young kev and who knows he was prob already lifting in the pic
I'm convinced like galenko said that training natural ectos are nothing special at all but juiced usually the change is very dramatic
most people are a mix
i would say little bit of ecto with plenty of meso