Paul Dillett 1 week ago around Oct 15, 2013

[Pet shop boys]

The " finishing touch" comments always make me laugh.. You have to take into consideration that he does not want to be big.. He is lifting circuit style weights.. He's eating two or three meals a day.. Doing lots of cardio.. And yes, not taking any drugs.. If Paul had healthy joints and wanted to train heavier and eat more then he would surprise you.. But not his goal.. Drugs work great no doubt.. But when we see guys drop this much mass there are other things to consider..

"There's not substitute for steroids."

- Branch Warren  Generation iron ( in Red box soon).





WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH

[Bevo]

Presenting two options that are both negative (being skinny or 300 pounds retired) does not exactly make much of a point, at all.  You're missing a fairly wide margin of "middle ground".

There are plenty of former pros who stay in shape and retain the lack of criticism that you're talking about.  For one thing, nobody would be giving shit to Ronnie, how he looks now -  IF he didn't turn up and guest post.  I don't see anybody complaining about Dorian's shape, now, either.

Dillet is an extreme example of degradation, yes - but his reputation was probably the worst of all pros in the 90s for being just an absolute drug creation. 

It's no surprise he became a twink.  Easy come, easy go for that guy.  I'd say he had his fill.  I mean the dude literally became a statue on stage.  Ridiculous.   

Dillet is a freak of the highest order - he could go from where he is, now - to looking better than pretty much everybody on this board in half a year (assuming he has not destroyed his kidneys).

I see your point but there is also something to consider about Dillet and the same about Prince and Francois.... They got into health issues and most likely not juicing anymore. Probably completely off and want nothing in terms of even getting a little "size" to do with bodybuilding.

Guys like Dorian and Ronnie as mentioned are still hitting the juice and most likely flex but he's pumped so much shit into his arms who knows.

Guys like Dillet and Francois and finally even Prince completely walked away from the "lifestyle" and that means even carrying "significant size"

[galeniko]

so wahts the message here?

what is being implied?that he doesnt look like he trains anymore?


no shit,columbo!


he doesnt look as big as his former self?

what a shocking revelation.

he doesnt even train.

you know what happens when you dont train anymore,drugs or no drugs?

you know what happens?you curious about the answer?

well, for the majority:take shirt off and look in mirror.thats what happens.

[Bevo]

so wahts the message here?

what is being implied?that he doesnt look like he trains anymore?


no shit,columbo!


he doesnt look as big as his former self?

what a shocking revelation.

he doesnt even train.

you know what happens when you dont train anymore,drugs or no drugs?

you know what happens?you curious about the answer?

well, for the majority:take shirt off and look in mirror.thats what happens.

Exactly!

Drugs + food, training 3rd

[phreak]

Blue jeans and jacket... the 90s are calling.

Fuck you, I still do that as well! 



Yes, I am an old man. ..

[240_Iz_Nutz]

I understand shrinking down for the health look but he actually looks skinny here, how can a mass monster like paul end up looking like this even if he comes off ....guess drugs are only the finishing touch.

He is still a pretty big dude. Just ugly as hell.

[240_Iz_Nutz]

I see your point but there is also something to consider about Dillet and the same about Prince and Francois.... They got into health issues and most likely not juicing anymore. Probably completely off and want nothing in terms of even getting a little "size" to do with bodybuilding.

Guys like Dorian and Ronnie as mentioned are still hitting the juice and most likely flex but he's pumped so much shit into his arms who knows.

Guys like Dillet and Francois and finally even Prince completely walked away from the "lifestyle" and that means even carrying "significant size"

Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.

[Pet shop boys]

He is still a pretty big dude. Just ugly as hell.

Qft.


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Mr Nobody]

Looks better than contest days.

[Sam]

Dillett on the left..

[galeniko]

loking at that pic, "ectomorph" structure with drugs will be the best combo for this bbuilding thing.

mesomorph structure already flawed agains the above combo.

i say structure, as i dont believe much in the different metabolism thing.

ppl do have different metabolisms, but it doesnt mean an ectomorph burn more calories than the "fat" endomorph.

[Borracho]

loking at that pic, "ectomorph" structure with drugs will be the best combo for this bbuilding thing.

mesomorph structure already flawed agains the above combo.

i say structure, as i dont believe much in the different metabolism thing.

ppl do have different metabolisms, but it doesnt mean an ectomorph burn more calories than the "fat" endomorph.

Maybe because ectos tend to have smaller joints/a lighter frame making any gains in muscle more substantial?

[galeniko]

Maybe because ectos tend to have smaller joints/a lighter frame making any gains in muscle more substantial?

yeah, it looks bigger, need less gains to look more impressive.

wont suffer from huge waist syndrome.

and they have by nature smaller stomachs(the inside),so they cant really overeat much, this is why they leaner, not some faster metabolism.

and being smaller overall at the beginning could grant them much superior steroid response, if you know what i mean, ever seen how women blow up like crazy on even just bit anavar?smaller organism responds better to lower doses,and wiht higher doses, they just literaly explode.

you can tell, if someone doesnt get to say galeniko level on a gramm weekly, they simply not destined to a career in this.
bc from galeniko to even good amateur, is like 5 times more size(if you subsract the bones,etc).
and using 5gramms doesnt mean the gains will be 5times more.

so whats god genetics,imo the ppl who gain nicely on low doses.

[Borracho]

^

Makes sense.

[Bevo]

Here's another ecto possibly top ten all time  

Flex Wheeler also considered by many the best is also an ecto

[Borracho]

Here's another ecto possibly top ten all time  

Flex Wheeler also considered by many the best is also an ecto

pic not showing up but this would be a good idea for a thread to see how many pure "ectos" made it far in bbing...


edit: ok now I see the pic

[Bevo]

Flex wheeler

[galeniko]

yeah def seems to be the case.

hell even skinnyfat tendency ectomorph frame seems better than the "optimal" mesomorph frame.

all the ones who have brutal waist size of barrell have started as blocky-chubsters.


the gains also come faster,or become visible faster on evry small frame.

whats th epoint of being 40lbs heavier than the other, yet the lighter guy still looks bigger?as has happened to many who stood next to flex wheeler.

[g.m]

....................i see this happening to all you roid users after your done jamming those roids up you ass..

[g.m]

You're going to die lol

.....................im pretty sure i'll out live most of you roid users.

[galeniko]

....................i see this happening to all you roid users after your done jamming those roids up you ass..

he stopped training you know.

a thing i see with naturals,is, they never seem to put on any kind of serious size.

[WalterWhite]

Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough his kidneys failed and he had to quit.

Fixed.

[King Shizzo]

Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.

Hey Pro Prince!

[rocket]

Those guys were so big I don't know how they did it that long. Prince was a monster at one point but was smart enough to quit.

I think Tom Prince posing for photos in his current state has repaired a lot of the ill will towards himself when he was moderator of doucheville (and a major architect of creating the doucheville regime), but I wouldn't go as far as to say he was "smart enough" to quit.

I think it's more like, when the kidneys stopped working, some are dumb enough to continue. 

I respect TP more now that he has taken his humble pie - but I would not go as far as to say he was "smart" about it.  The man almost certainly had a doctor tell him point blank - you will die if you continue to use steroids.  I'm not going to be awarding that guy "intelligence" based on that type of advice.  Either you stop, or you're a fucking moron.  You're not smart for following the advice of a doctor.

As for naturals vs steroid users.. meh, look, if you're willing to take the risks and do steroids - do them.  If you don't, just don't get on the internet and pretend that you're not jealous of those who are willing to take the risks.  You're fooling nobody.  There are positives and negatives for both and the fall from grace is most definitely the juicer's bane and something they just have to accept.

Not that steroids aren't the primary catalyst for these monsters - clearly, they are - just you know, turn the volume down on your jealousy brahs - you're making the pragmatic naturals look bad, too.  Any natural that obsesses on juicers - sees people who are kind of strong or large and goes immediately to thinking about how they are juicing - weak minded fools. 

Face the facts, if you're a natural, you're competing in the special olympics of bodybuilding. 

(and yeah, I am natural)

[Shockwave]

I think Tom Prince posing for photos in his current state has repaired a lot of the ill will towards himself when he was moderator of doucheville (and a major architect of creating the doucheville regime), but I wouldn't go as far as to say he was "smart enough" to quit.

I think it's more like, when the kidneys stopped working, some are dumb enough to continue. 

I respect TP more now that he has taken his humble pie - but I would not go as far as to say he was "smart" about it.  The man almost certainly had a doctor tell him point blank - you will die if you continue to use steroids.  I'm not going to be awarding that guy "intelligence" based on that type of advice.  Either you stop, or you're a fucking moron.  You're not smart for following the advice of a doctor.

As for naturals vs steroid users.. meh, look, if you're willing to take the risks and do steroids - do them.  If you don't, just don't get on the internet and pretend that you're not jealous of those who are willing to take the risks.  You're fooling nobody.  There are positives and negatives for both and the fall from grace is most definitely the juicer's bane and something they just have to accept.

Not that steroids aren't the primary catalyst for these monsters - clearly, they are - just you know, turn the volume down on your jealousy brahs - you're making the pragmatic naturals look bad, too.  Any natural that obsesses on juicers - sees people who are kind of strong or large and goes immediately to thinking about how they are juicing - weak minded fools. 

Face the facts, if you're a natural, you're competing in the special olympics of bodybuilding. 

(and yeah, I am natural)

So.... Croatch.....