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Title: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 21, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
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CLIFFS:

- Entitled attention whore posts photo on Facebook of a receipt with "guy" written on total amount.
- White knights donate $10,000 because obviously it was such a traumatic experience
- Customer who left the check denies he wrote the slur.
- Got death threats
- Suing dumb b!tch and Red Lobster because she posted the receipt online with his card number along and personal info on it.
- Even had a handwriting expert clear him and his wife of the writing on the receipt.
- Dumb kunt will probably have to use donated money for lawyer.


http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/tennessee-man-denies-writing-n-word-red-lobster-204152021--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Dr.J on October 21, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
wtf is this bs!!
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Nomad on October 21, 2013, 09:52:34 PM
I can start a garden on her forehead
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 21, 2013, 09:59:27 PM
I personally felt that the original message left on the receipt was very funny. Because it was fake obviously.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
ruder than not being hygienic by skipping the pants.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Skeletor on October 21, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
It appears she took a bigger bite than she could chew..

Ridiculous that they even censored the picture of the receipt.. Political correctness ran amok...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/tennessee-man-denies-writing-n-word-red-lobster-204152021--abc-news-topstories.html


He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 21, 2013, 10:49:48 PM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....

I agree with the first part, I take tipping seriously.

Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Naggash on October 21, 2013, 10:51:15 PM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

It appears he didn't write the word in the first place
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2013, 11:05:48 PM
It appears he didn't write the word in the first place


I think he's lying but honestly it doesn't matter.  He's not suing the waitress but Red Lobster....he would be crazy to sue the waitress at this point but he's wasting his time with suing the company....they'll laugh him out of court. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Schnauzer on October 21, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
Now that she's in the spotlight she says maybe he didn't write it ::) of course, after he's been labeled a racist in the media.

“If he claims he didn’t write it, I believe him wholeheartedly. I’m just that kind of person.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/red-lobster-customer-claims-racist-bad-tipper-article-1.1490962#ixzz2iQfx0rb3

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1490961.1382286004!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/receipt21n-2-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 21, 2013, 11:26:48 PM

I think he's lying but honestly it doesn't matter.  He's not suing the waitress but Red Lobster....he would be crazy to sue the waitress at this point but he's wasting his time with suing the company....they'll laugh him out of court. 

Bro I know tons of people who don't write anything in the tip section of a bill and leave cash for the tip...Or they draw a line in the tip section and leave cash. i could also see someone writing the word none in the tip section and leaving cash so some scammer waiter doesn't take it upon him/herself to write in more money for a tip when you give cash...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 21, 2013, 11:31:27 PM

I think he's lying but honestly it doesn't matter.  He's not suing the waitress but Red Lobster....he would be crazy to sue the waitress at this point but he's wasting his time with suing the company....they'll laugh him out of court. 

Are company employees allowed to post personal information about customers on the internet? I would think there might be a case there if the guy can show damages...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: 99 Bananas on October 21, 2013, 11:33:18 PM
Someone needs to smack those glasses off her stupid prone to crack addiction looking face.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 21, 2013, 11:41:30 PM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

you are a racist

you view is tainted

you wouldnt have posted a comment if race wasnt the issue
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
It was a to-go order, brother. Nobody waited on him.

It was not a to-go order.... ::)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2013, 11:50:56 PM
Bro I know tons of people who don't write anything in the tip section of a bill and leave cash for the tip...Or they draw a line in the tip section and leave cash. i could also see someone writing the word none in the tip section and leaving cash so some scammer waiter doesn't take it upon him/herself to write in more money for a tip when you give cash...


Yes, and they never got any complaints from the waiter....this guy admitted to being a bad tipper and cheapskate to the media
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2013, 11:53:10 PM
you are a racist

you view is tainted

you wouldnt have posted a comment if race wasnt the issue


I said the same thing about this cow...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/i-give-god-10-tip-story-takes-intersting-twister-pastor-revealed-and-the-waitress-has-been-fired/
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Schnauzer on October 21, 2013, 11:53:38 PM
It was not a to-go order.... ::)


"when me and my wife got our meal to go..."
(http://s15.postimg.org/oy0ewhizv/23396399_BG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 21, 2013, 11:55:35 PM

I said the same thing about this cow...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/i-give-god-10-tip-story-takes-intersting-twister-pastor-revealed-and-the-waitress-has-been-fired/

he will get a pay out

they added the word because he didnt tip them

you jumped to the conclusion that he was a racist and then tried to make it about the tip

which he doesnt have to leave maybe the service was poor have you considered that

that shows you have a pre conceived view based on race which makes you a racist
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 01:58:37 AM
Bro I know tons of people who don't write anything in the tip section of a bill and leave cash for the tip...Or they draw a line in the tip section and leave cash. i could also see someone writing the word none in the tip section and leaving cash so some scammer waiter doesn't take it upon him/herself to write in more money for a tip when you give cash...

Good point!!
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 02:00:30 AM
which he doesnt have to leave maybe the service was poor have you considered that
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2013, 02:36:21 AM
Throw her ass in jail then hand him the keys to the restaurant with reparation pay for mental anguish.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Parker on October 22, 2013, 02:47:27 AM
Bro I know tons of people who don't write anything in the tip section of a bill and leave cash for the tip...Or they draw a line in the tip section and leave cash. i could also see someone writing the word none in the tip section and leaving cash so some scammer waiter doesn't take it upon him/herself to write in more money for a tip when you give cash...
leave that cash on the table and another waiter/waitress or patron will take it...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: pedro01 on October 22, 2013, 02:48:13 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

Maybe she gave shitty service.

So she then plays the race card.

I'd say the fact she did that sort of backs up his whole non-payment of a tip. She's an obvious clunt and acted as one after he left.

I hope she goes to jail.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Internet Tough Guy on October 22, 2013, 02:55:56 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

Only a brokeback polesmoker would arrive at such a conclusion.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 03:09:01 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

(http://www.miscupload.com/upload/204877827770233085379760.gif)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: TrueGrit on October 22, 2013, 03:19:59 AM
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Rami on October 22, 2013, 03:22:50 AM
He should have put total hebrew instead
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 03:48:34 AM
So even if he didnt tip he deserves death threats?   Oh brother.   ::)


Perhaps her service flat out sucked. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 04:13:43 AM
He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

So, let's get this straight... he deserves to have his name traduced because he didn't leave a tip? That's a pretty fucked up mentality you have there Vince. As for the waitress, sure, she relies on tips, but why is that anyone's problem but hers?

And about the forensic examiner, you think that it doesn't alter the calculus whether "n****r" was written by someone else? Are you that fucking dense?


I think he's lying but honestly it doesn't matter.  He's not suing the waitress but Red Lobster....he would be crazy to sue the waitress at this point but he's wasting his time with suing the company....they'll laugh him out of court.  

First of all - as you quite astutely point out - who gives a fuck what you think?

As for your silly commentary that a suit against Red Lobster will be laughed out of court, kindly tell us (so that we can evaluate your considered legal opinion accordingly) when did you become a lawyer in addition to being an esteemed bodybuilder and a retailer extraordinaire?

Although they haven't decided to sue the waitress (the article claims they don't know on what grounds they would) the fact is that Red Lobster is absolutely responsible for the conduct of its employees. Now, this receipt is a business record of Red Lobster, a record which the waitress had in her possession as part of her work for Red Lobster. This creates a nexus that could be used to involve Red Lobster.

Whether any lawsuit in this instance is a smart idea is an entirely different topic. He probably should read up on the Streisand Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) before he files anything. Somethings are better left untouched. I suspect that this is one of them.


Yes, and they never got any complaints from the waiter....this guy admitted to being a bad tipper and cheapskate to the media

Being a bad tipper and a cheapskate is neither illegal nor is something that justifies having one's name traduced.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: dr.chimps on October 22, 2013, 04:28:25 AM
So, let's get this straight... he deserves to have his name traduced because he didn't leave a tip? That's a pretty fucked up mentality you have there Vince. As for the waitress, sure, she relies on tips, but why is that anyone's problem but hers?

As for his forensic examiner, you think that it doesn't alter the calculus whether "guy" was written by someone else? Are you that fucking dense?


First of all - as you quite astutely point out - who gives a fuck what you think?

As for your silly commentary that a suit against Red Lobster will be laughed out of court, kindly tell us (so that we can evaluate your considered legal opinion accordingly) when did you become a lawyer in addition to being an esteemed bodybuilder and a retailer extraordinaire?

Although they haven't decided to sue the waitress (the article claims they don't know on what grounds they would) the fact is that Red Lobster is absolutely responsible for the conduct of its employees. Now, this receipt is a business record of Red Lobster, a record which the waitress had in her possession as part of her work for Red Lobster. This creates a nexus that could be used to involve Red Lobster.

Whether any lawsuit in this instance is a smart idea is an entirely different topic. He probably should read up on the Streisand Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) before he files anything. Somethings are better left untouched. I suspect that this is one of them.


Being a bad tipper and a cheapskate is neither illegal nor is something that justifies having one's name traduced.
Expand your vocabulary, the Getbig way. Today's word: traduced. Say it with me, tra-duced - to slur, or impugn. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 04:30:31 AM
Expand your vocabulary, the Getbig way. Today's word: traduced. Say it with me, tra-duced - to slur, or impugn. 

Impugn: to traduce
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: dr.chimps on October 22, 2013, 04:31:55 AM
Impugn: to traduce
Traduce: to Showstop.              Bam!           ;D
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 04:32:38 AM
Traduce: to Showstop.              Bam!           ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Red Hook on October 22, 2013, 04:33:06 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

you should only tip if the service warrants it

tipping is not mandatory but is offerered for services rendered.

somehow waiters feel like ripping is something that is mandatory..it is not
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 04:35:27 AM
One of them is lying.....Just based on what evidence is avail via the news reports I'm going with the waitress.

1. She didn't show her co workers or manager at the time she discovered it. It is human nature to do so and I can't even imagine her not making a huge deal out of it at the time it was discovered
2. "If he said he didn't do it I believe him" is exactly what someone who is feeling a little guilty would say if they were the culprit. She didn't realize the firestorm that would follow her posting
3. "If" a handwriting expert examined it, that tells me two things. 1. Handwriting experts are pretty good at their job and can even detect forgeries of practiced forgers in many cases. 2. A guilty joe blow would not go through the trouble of getting an expert to examine the evidence

But.. why did he have to change his bank account if only the last 4 digits are exposed? That to me is just a part of him wanting to get more money from Red Lobster.        
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 04:53:34 AM
One of them is lying.....Just based on what evidence is avail via the news reports I'm going with the waitress.

1. She didn't show her co workers or manager at the time she discovered it. It is human nature to do so and I can't even imagine her not making a huge deal out of it at the time it was discovered
2. "If he said he didn't do it I believe him" is exactly what someone who is feeling a little guilty would say if they were the culprit. She didn't realize the firestorm that would follow her posting
3. "If" a handwriting expert examined it, that tells me two things. 1. Handwriting experts are pretty good at their job and can even detect forgeries of practiced forgers in many cases. 2. A guilty joe blow would not go through the trouble of getting an expert to examine the evidence

But.. why did he have to change his bank account if only the last 4 digits are exposed? That to me is just a part of him wanting to get more money from Red Lobster.        

I agree on all counts.  He will very likely be able to get pain and suffering due to her putting his name out there and him getting death threats.  And IMO he deserves it.  Red Lobster, whether people like it or not, are at least partially responsible since they employ the shitbag. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 04:59:51 AM
Fuckin hell, minimum wage for tipped employees in USA is $2.19 per hour?

In the UK it's approx. $8 for under 21 year olds and approx. $11 for over age 21.
And they also get to keep their tips.

Looks like the USA is becoming a 3rd world for the majority of poor suckers. Most of you would have to move to China to get a pay rise. :D

Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:02:52 AM
Fuckin hell, minimum wage for tipped employees in USA is $2.19 per hour?

In the UK it's approx. $8 for under 21 year olds and approx. $11 for over age 21.
And they also get to keep their tips.

Looks like the USA is becoming a 3rd world for the majority of poor suckers. Most of you would have to move to China to get a pay rise. :D



Mo you dumb fuck. Wait staff is on a different pay scale as tips are expected here unlike in europe. Go back to blowing you "mate" Richard. 

"Keep their tips".   ::).  The only people who tip them are US tourists.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:14:22 AM
Oh, what a guy!

Fruitbooties are often employed in the food service industry so perhaps Vince is ill at the cheapskate from personal trials and tribulations.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 05:24:35 AM
Mo you dumb fuck. Wait staff is on a different pay scale as tips are expected here unlike in europe. Go back to blowing you "mate" Richard. 

"Keep their tips".   ::).  The only people who tip them are US tourists.

Don't talk shite sonny.
If you saved up your minimum wage dollars and actually visited Scotland you would find that 10-15% tip is normal over here.
So a waitress gets typically $15-25 per hour plus free healthcare, free university education etc.
That is why people from all classes can make something of themselves over here.

Used to be that way in the USA. Now if your mommy and daddy don't have money you are fucked.
Sorry about that.
 :-[
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: dr.chimps on October 22, 2013, 05:31:23 AM
Don't talk shite sonny.
If you saved up your minimum wage dollars and actually visited Scotland you would find that 10-15% tip is normal over here.
So a waitress gets typically $15-25 per hour plus free healthcare, free university education etc.
That is why people from all classes can make something of themselves over here.

Used to be that way in the USA. Now if your mommy and daddy don't have money you are fucked.
Sorry about that.
 :-[

Hmm. Every time I tried to tip the server/bartender in Edinburgh for a pint they backed off like I'd pissed in their Corn Flakes. I asked a local. Tipping I was told was verboten. Learn something new, everyday.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 05:33:00 AM
Don't talk shite sonny.
If you saved up your minimum wage dollars and actually visited Scotland you would find that 10-15% tip is normal over here.
So a waitress gets typically $15-25 per hour plus free healthcare, free university education etc.
That is why people from all classes can make something of themselves over here.

Used to be that way in the USA. Now if your mommy and daddy don't have money you are fucked.
Sorry about that.
 :-[


would you have punched her big al

just in case she was a robber
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:36:43 AM
Don't talk shite sonny.
If you saved up your minimum wage dollars and actually visited Scotland you would find that 10-15% tip is normal over here.
So a waitress gets typically $15-25 per hour plus free healthcare, free university education etc.
That is why people from all classes can make something of themselves over here.

Used to be that way in the USA. Now if your mommy and daddy don't have money you are fucked.
Sorry about that.
 :-[


I've been to 26 countries, including Scotland chief.  And all over the UK is wasnt expected. I still tried to but often the servers would just kinda laugh and explain it to me.  In Germany it was expected to tip beer wenches at fests by rounding up but that was it.

A waitress making $25/hr not including tips?   I highly doubt that but you never know.   
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
Fruitbooties are often employed in the food service industry so perhaps Vince is ill at the cheapskate from personal trials and tribulations.

It's not enough for Vince to fuck one white man at home, now he wants to see some other white guy get fucked over that he doesn't even know.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 05:45:28 AM
Don't talk shite sonny.
If you saved up your minimum wage dollars and actually visited Scotland you would find that 10-15% tip is normal over here.
So a waitress gets typically $15-25 per hour plus free healthcare, free university education etc.

Look at Scotland! It's magical land, a happy land, where you can live - for free - in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane, while getting paid $15 to $25 an hour to wait tables. And while you do that, you  get free healthcare and a free university education in the growing field of advanced table waiting that pays up to $115 an hour!


That is why people from all classes can make something of themselves over here.

Yes, Scotland is renowned around the world as a place where people of all classes can make something of themselves!


Used to be that way in the USA. Now if your mommy and daddy don't have money you are fucked.
Sorry about that.
 :-[

What was true in the USA in the past is true now - if you work hard, you can succeed and succeed beyond your wildest dreams. Almost as good as Scotland, the land where "people from all classes can make something of themselves." It's just that, unlike Scotland, we don't pay waitresses $15 to $25 an hour and give them "free healthcare, free education, etc"

We should all head to Scotland and make something of ourselves! Then we can eat (free) haggis and freeball it in our kilts. Even in formal occasions!
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 22, 2013, 05:48:08 AM
you should only tip if the service warrants it

tipping is not mandatory but is offerered for services rendered.

somehow waiters feel like ripping is something that is mandatory..it is not

Tipping in a restaurant IS mandatory.  Prices are adjusted downwards bc the restaurant doesnt pay their waitstaff much, and the difference is made up by the customers.  If nobody tipped, the cost of paying their waitstaff would go up and eventually the cost of a meal would go up around 15-20%.

Tipping is certainly not optional.... if you don't feel like leaving a tip, don't go out to eat
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:49:25 AM
Look at Scotland! It's magical land, a happy land, where you can live - for free - in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane, while getting paid $15 to $25 an hour to wait tables. And while you do that, you  get free healthcare and a free university education in the growing field of advanced table waiting that pays up to $115 an hour!


Yes, Scotland is renowned around the world as a place where people of all classes can make something of themselves!


What was true in the USA in the past is true now - if you work hard, you can succeed and succeed beyond your wildest dreams. Almost as good as Scotland, the land where "people from all classes can make something of themselves." It's just that, unlike Scotland, we don't pay waitresses $15 to $25 an hour and give them "free healthcare, free education, etc"

We should all head to Scotland and make something of ourselves! Then we can eat (free) haggis and freeball it in our kilts. Even in formal occasions!


Lol.   Big Al is busy folding his bed/ironing board back into the wall of his 200sf apartment.  He wil return shortly. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 05:55:13 AM
Tipping in a restaurant IS mandatory.  Prices are adjusted downwards bc the restaurant doesnt pay their waitstaff much, and the difference is made up by the customers.  If nobody tipped, the cost of paying their waitstaff would go up and eventually the cost of a meal would go up around 15-20%.

Tipping is certainly not optional.... if you don't feel like leaving a tip, don't go out to eat

so what is your recourse if the service is shit
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: youandme on October 22, 2013, 05:57:02 AM
So, what has Obama said about the issue?

This matter deserves of presidential input!

Red Lobster Summit of Peace.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 05:57:21 AM
Tipping in a restaurant IS mandatory.

I don't think "mandatory" means what you think it means.


Prices are adjusted downwards bc the restaurant doesnt pay their waitstaff much

Why is any of that my concern? I don't care whether prices are adjusted upwards or downwards, or whether the restaurant pays the waitstaff much or little. I shouldn't have to. I certainly don't for any other business, but for restaurants it's somehow special.


, and the difference is made up by the customers. If nobody tipped, the cost of paying their waitstaff would go up and eventually the cost of a meal would go up around 15-20%.

OK, and? I mean, if it's mandatory that I pay a tip - often to the tune of 15% - it's even money for me. And, arguably, I'll come out ahead, since those who currently "steal" by not paying the "mandatory" tip will be forced to pay.

Of course, the big thing is that the waiters don't actually want to migrate away from tips to a salary they can live on, because they believe that they can make more money by getting tips (and it's probably true) than they could by getting salary.


Tipping is certainly not optional.... if you don't feel like leaving a tip, don't go out to eat

I'm pretty sure that having a blank space where I can write the amount that I want to leave as a tip is the definition of "optional."
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 22, 2013, 06:07:18 AM
so what is your recourse if the service is shit

Tipping like 5% is way more insulting.

avxo, no need to do a multi-quote breakdown of my post.  Save your pedantry for someone else

The advantage of the system as it stands is that you have the ability to scale the tip up or down according to service.  If it were a flat 15%, well, then you can't do anything about bad service.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 06:17:12 AM
Tipping in a restaurant IS mandatory.  Prices are adjusted downwards bc the restaurant doesnt pay their waitstaff much, and the difference is made up by the customers.  If nobody tipped, the cost of paying their waitstaff would go up and eventually the cost of a meal would go up around 15-20%.

Tipping is certainly not optional.... if you don't feel like leaving a tip, don't go out to eat

Yeah...no.... tipping is optional... UNLESS, it is clearly stated that a gratuity is automatically added. You see this mainly on menus referring to parties of 6 or more.   
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 06:21:00 AM
Tipping like 5% is way more insulting.

I guess that's true if you tip a penny or somesuch. But yes, tipping is insulting, and the way to deal with bad service is to pay the waiter but make him feel bad by doing a little pantomime involving percentages. Sounds sensible. ::)


avxo, no need to do a multi-quote breakdown of my post.  Save your pedantry for someone else

I'm maxed out on pedantry, so I have to continue being pedantic in small, controllable amounts to avoid overflowing. It wouldn't be pretty if I stopped. So you will just have to deal with it.

I see, by the way, that you addressed none of the issues I raised. Why is that?


The advantage of the system as it stands is that you have the ability to scale the tip up or down according to service.  If it were a flat 15%, well, then you can't do anything about bad service.

I prefer to reward excellent service, instead of "punishing" bad service, especially since your definition of "punishment" includes me paying money.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Devon97 on October 22, 2013, 06:28:15 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

HE got carryout you buck dancing neegro.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 06:29:21 AM
HE got carryout you buck dancing neegro.

Lol


Buck dancing for the win!
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: youandme on October 22, 2013, 06:36:00 AM
There have been plenty of times where I feel like tipping 0. I can't do it though, because even with bad service you never know what someone is battling on a given day inside or outside of the workplace.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: That_Dude on October 22, 2013, 06:37:58 AM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

I have a job with much greater responsibility than a waitress I get no tips when I do my job. If you want to get paid find a job and get an education to match the pay you'd like. These non skilled workers think the world owes them something......
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Krankenstein on October 22, 2013, 06:47:29 AM
Vince once again taking a beating worse than a 14yo's dick during puberty
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 06:50:32 AM
Tipping like 5% is way more insulting.

avxo, no need to do a multi-quote breakdown of my post.  Save your pedantry for someone else

The advantage of the system as it stands is that you have the ability to scale the tip up or down according to service.  If it were a flat 15%, well, then you can't do anything about bad service.

so if your bill was a grand and the service was shit

you would insult them by tipping them 50 bills

its a real kick in the teeth  ::)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 22, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
you should only tip if the service warrants it

tipping is not mandatory but is offerered for services rendered.

somehow waiters feel like ripping is something that is mandatory..it is not

No, its not mandatory but he's still an asshole and I believe he wrote "n i g g e r" on that slip.

Fact is that in a social media world with twitter and facebook, you need to be on your best behavior when you leave your house.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 06:58:49 AM
No, its not mandatory but he's still an asshole and I believe he wrote "n i g g e r" on that slip.

Fact is that in a social media world with twitter and facebook, you need to be on your best behavior when you leave your house.

I hope you are trolling vince

otherwise you are just another bigot ignoring the evidence
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 07:05:11 AM
Check out this wee fudd on youtube talking about this case before she was exposed as a lying little stumor.

Think the comments will be changing now the cat is out the bag.



Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Archer77 on October 22, 2013, 07:12:29 AM
No, its not mandatory but he's still an asshole and I believe he wrote "n i g g e r" on that slip.

Fact is that in a social media world with twitter and facebook, you need to be on your best behavior when you leave your house.

He's denying it and I believe him.  He's taking a huge risk coming out and speaking about it.  He could have easily faded back in to anonymity but he choose to make his case public.  You'd be surprised how often faked incidents of racism happen.  She's lying.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 07:15:59 AM
so if your bill was a grand and the service was shit

you would insult them by tipping them 50 bills

its a real kick in the teeth  ::)

reality is that any place you're paying a grand for dinner, it's unlikely service would be less than stellar
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 07:17:07 AM
reality is that any place you're paying a grand for dinner, it's unlikely service would be less than stellar

good point they would never have an off day  ::)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
good point they would never have an off day  ::)

Well, just based on experience..if you are dining in a place where the bill is going to be a grand, there is a good chance your table will have at least 2 waitstaff assigned. Likely not an Applebees or a Steak and Shake. Sure, they could have an off day..very unlikely at that level... but yeah...sure they could
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 10:20:42 AM
Ok.. it's not really based on experience...  :)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: bigmc on October 22, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
Well, just based on experience..if you are dining in a place where the bill is going to be a grand, there is a good chance your table will have at least 2 waitstaff assigned. Likely not an Applebees or a Steak and Shake. Sure, they could have an off day..very unlikely at that level... but yeah...sure they could

my point is

if the service is shit your first course of recourse is not to tip

if it is compulsory their is no incentive for them to look after you

a great waiter can make your night

those are the ones you tip generously
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 22, 2013, 10:27:25 AM
my point is

if the service is shit your first course of recourse is not to tip

if it is compulsory their is no incentive for them to look after you

a great waiter can make your night

those are the ones you tip generously

Your point is spot on
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: phreak on October 22, 2013, 10:28:14 AM
There have been plenty of times where I feel like tipping 0. I can't do it though, because even with bad service you never know what someone is battling on a given day inside or outside of the workplace.
They could be battling Megatron with AIDS for all I care, I just want them to do their job. Do a shit job and I don't tip you. And even then they still get paid something: their base salary. Plenty of self-employed people who wish they were so lucky.

In short: fuck that stupid, lying, faux-trendy shart gargler.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2013, 10:32:36 AM
They could be battling Megatron with AIDS for all I care, I just want them to do their job. Do a shit job and I don't tip you. And even then they still get paid something: their base salary. Plenty of self-employed people who wish they were so lucky.

In short: fuck that stupid, lying, faux-trendy shart gargler.

Leave a penny for horrible service rather than zero. It gets the point across more.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Krankenstein on October 22, 2013, 10:36:21 AM
good point they would never have an off day  ::)

No, they don't.  Places like that have little (if any) turn over.  If you feel the service is shit in places like that you simply motion to the Maitre'D and they won't put up with shit.  I was at a place like that in Scottdale at an exclusive golf resort.  
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Skeletor on October 22, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
Goo drum leaving a restaurant having enjoyed the signature dish and tipped the waiter generously by swallowing.

(http://2.images.tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/2013/10/sweetcum.jpg)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Conker on October 22, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
The guy is lying , why would she single him out to make that story up about? is he the first person that never gave her a tip?

Plus you can tell from pics, butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.  ;D
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: jjbones on October 22, 2013, 11:20:09 AM
Regardless of facts in this case, Red Lobster is in deep shit. Deep pockets ... The Lobster is gonna pay dearly for this lack of judgement.  I have often times paid for meals on a card and left cash as tip ... if I get loosey service, fuck you no tip.  If it can be established in court that the customer did not write that word ... really, really big payout ... this will not go to court.  I predict, $250,000 plus settlement, no court, waitress fired. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 22, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
The guy is lying , why would she single him out to make that story up about? is he the first person that never gave her a tip?

Plus you can tell from pics, butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.  ;D

HIS not HER
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Shockwave on October 22, 2013, 11:33:28 AM
Free healthcare and free education? Dont tell me all Europeans think this way.....

well the government takes 60% of my check but I get free health care and education,  what a bargain!


There is no fucking thing as free anything. Allthiose dollars that disappear from your check,  thats youre "free" shit.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Archer77 on October 22, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
The guy is lying , why would she single him out to make that story up about? is he the first person that never gave her a tip?

Plus you can tell from pics, butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.  ;D

He has no reason to lie.   Its isn't in his best interest to go public and fight the charge. The anti-racism industry is large and powerful.  I suggest you read a book called Crying Wolf by Laird Wilcox. Laird Wilcox is an unbiased researched who has done extensive study of this subject.  Racism hoaxes are fairly common.  Accusers have found crying racism is an easy way to gain sympathy and make a buck. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 22, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
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Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Vince was afraid of DA at the time he probably didnt leave a tip at the time.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
Free healthcare and free education? Dont tell me all Europeans think this way.....

well the government takes 60% of my check but I get free health care and education,  what a bargain!


There is no fucking thing as free anything. Allthiose dollars that disappear from your check,  thats youre "free" shit.

You are right and you are wrong.
In Scotland (not the rest of the UK)
A poor man making £20,000 a year paying an effective 18% tax will get healthcare and university education for his children allowing them to become doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers......whatever.

A rich man making £200,000 a year will pay an effective tax of 38% and will get healthcare and university education for his children allowing them to become doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers......whatever.
  
It is all down to academic performance. Not how deep your dad's pockets are. In Scotland even a poor black man could become the head of the country. When will the USA ever be able to say that?  :D




Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 22, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
leave that cash on the table and another waiter/waitress or patron will take it...

Yes...Hand it to the waiter...I could see waiters/waitress who share tips pocketing the cash and telling the manager(when he adds up the bills at night) that the person left no tip when the word none is written in the tip section...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: King Shizzo on October 22, 2013, 12:51:32 PM
Looks like William Wallace did not die in vain.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 01:03:24 PM
There is no fucking thing as free anything. Allthiose dollars that disappear from your check,  thats youre "free" shit.

x2
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
A poor man making £20,000 a year paying an effective 18% tax will get healthcare and university education for his children allowing them to become doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers......whatever.

A rich man making £200,000 a year will pay an effective tax of 38% and will get healthcare and university education for his children allowing them to become doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers......whatever.

Our rich friend above and our poor friend above can both just up and send their children to Eton College at a cost of £40,000 per annum, or the University of St. Andrews at a cost of £30,000 per annum, give or take a few hundred pounds sterling.

Yay for equality! Everybody do the robot!

  
It is all down to academic performance. Not how deep your dad's pockets are.

Yes, it's all down to academic performance. Because the Scottish guy making £200,000 can't and won't use his checkbook to give his kids the proverbial leg up, by sending them to fancy places like Eton.


In Scotland even a poor black man could become the head of the country. When will the USA ever be able to say that?  :D

Yeah, because "head of Scotland" is a job that it's in such high-demand... I mean luminaries as Dewar and Salmond have occupied this illustrious post! By the way, there's a difference between the Prime Minister, who is the head of the Government, and the head of the country, who is Queen Elizabeth II.

I guess that free education is a bit... shall we say lacking when it comes to civics?
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 01:27:45 PM
Our rich friend above and our poor friend above can both just up and send their children to Eton College at a cost of £40,000 per annum, or the University of St. Andrews at a cost of £30,000 per annum, give or take a few hundred pounds sterling.

Yay for equality! Everybody do the robot!


Eton is in England. The English pay fees for their education.

St Andrews fees are paid by the state for everyone born in Scotland. Prince William and his bride would have had to pay when they attended St Andrews seeing as they are English.
 8)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 01:47:08 PM
Wait staff is on a different pay scale as tips are expected here unlike in europe.


Not in all states.  In CA, min wage is the same for everyone.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 01:51:33 PM
Eton is in England. The English pay fees for their education.

Right, and? It still proves my point, that the guy making £200,000 still has more options available to him.


St Andrews fees are paid by the state for everyone born in Scotland. Prince William and his bride would have had to pay when they attended St Andrews seeing as they are English.
 8)

Can you provide a reference? The St. Andrews website seems to disagree. Not that I don't think you're more credible than the official website. ::)
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: syntaxmachine on October 22, 2013, 01:58:45 PM
Goo drum leaving a restaurant having enjoyed the signature dish and tipped the waiter generously by swallowing.

(http://2.images.tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/2013/10/sweetcum.jpg)

Goo-Drum makes time to satisfy both his entrepreneurial and more basic animal spirits.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:00:17 PM

Being a bad tipper and a cheapskate is neither illegal nor is something that justifies having one's name traduced.

I usually agree with most of your posts but as a former waiter, I'm struggling with this a bit.  Is it illegal for a server to make it known to others that someone has left a sub-standard tip?  Is it really even inappropriate?  Surely it's OK for a server to tell his fellow servers that someone has a history of being a shitty tipper, right?  So how many people is it OK to tell?  

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is;  If you're gonna be a cheapskate, then own it.  It's not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Ugly on October 22, 2013, 02:02:20 PM
I usually agree with most of your posts but as a former waiter, I'm struggling with this a bit.  Is it illegal for a server to make it known to others that someone has left a sub-standard tip?  Is it really even inappropriate?  Surely it's OK for a server to tell his fellow servers that someone has a history of being a shitty tipper, right?  So how many people is it OK to tell?  

Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is;  If you're gonna be a cheapskate, then own it.  It's not the end of the world.

The guy got it to go. Since when do you tip for take-out?
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
I don't think "mandatory" means what you think it means.


Why is any of that my concern? I don't care whether prices are adjusted upwards or downwards, or whether the restaurant pays the waitstaff much or little. I shouldn't have to. I certainly don't for any other business, but for restaurants it's somehow special.


OK, and? I mean, if it's mandatory that I pay a tip - often to the tune of 15% - it's even money for me. And, arguably, I'll come out ahead, since those who currently "steal" by not paying the "mandatory" tip will be forced to pay.

Of course, the big thing is that the waiters don't actually want to migrate away from tips to a salary they can live on, because they believe that they can make more money by getting tips (and it's probably true) than they could by getting salary.


I'm pretty sure that having a blank space where I can write the amount that I want to leave as a tip is the definition of "optional."

DO you tip?  Would you really not tip at a place you regularly frequent?  If so, you are a brave dude with a strong immune system.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
Right, and? It still proves my point, that the guy making £200,000 still has more options available to him.


Can you provide a reference? The St. Andrews website seems to disagree. Not that I don't think you're more credible than the official website. ::)

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Education/UniversitiesColleges/16640/financial-help

Since 2012 all 19 Universities in Scotland are free to Scottish nationals.

St Andrews is playing it down because it wants to attract English and Overseas students who do have to pay.

Another great thing from Alec Salmond.

One thing I would agree with you on is that there are plenty of Private high schools in Scotland that charge a fortune and provide very high standards of education so Rich dad can give a leg up to his kids this way. Fettes College in Edinburgh will cost you $250,000 for your high school years. Prime Minister Tony Blair attended Fettes and it is run by queers.



Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:12:10 PM
HE got carryout you buck dancing neegro.

Uh, brainiac, are you 100% sure that's all he got?  To me it seems like he ate at the restaurant and then ordered something to go just before leaving.  I say that because he writes about leaving the credit slip "on the table".
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 22, 2013, 02:14:33 PM
The guy got it to go. Since when do you tip for take-out?

Damn, I didn't know he got it to go...Who the fukc tips on a take out order?
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
There have been plenty of times where I feel like tipping 0. I can't do it though, because even with bad service you never know what someone is battling on a given day inside or outside of the workplace.

As a former waiter, I don't agree with this.  If you've worked in a restaurant before you can usually tell why your service is shitty.  And when it's due to the server just sucking, then they need to reqularly get stiffed (get no tip) so that they're forced to quit a job they can't handle.  And believe you me, being a foodserver can be a difficult and highly stressful job.  Many people just can't do it well no matter what.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 02:29:21 PM
As a former waiter, I don't agree with this.  If you've worked in a restaurant before you can usually tell why your service is shitty.  And when it's due to the server just sucking, then they need to reqularly get stiffed (get no tip) so that they're forced to quit a job they can't handle.  And believe you me, being a foodserver can be a difficult and highly stressful job.  Many people just can't do it well no matter what.

Why don't you Americans get a fair basic pay for being a waiter and rely less on tips. Put prices up and start increasing the quality of your establishments like in the civilised world. I mean Red Lobster and Olive Garden is haute cuisine for you guys. ::)

I would have thought Scotsman Gordon Ramsay would have made you lift your game a bit by now.
 :D


Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
He has no reason to lie.   Its isn't in his best interest to go public and fight the charge. The anti-racism industry is large and powerful.  I suggest you read a book called Crying Wolf by Laird Wilcox. Laird Wilcox is an unbiased researched who has done extensive study of this subject.  Racism hoaxes are fairly common.  Accusers have found crying racism is an easy way to gain sympathy and make a buck.  

You are high.  We're supposed to believe that an idiot who would write that on a credit slip with his name on it would be smart enough to know that it's not in his best interest to go public and fight the charge (because of the Streisand Effect, I presume)?  Haha.  Try again.  

Look, I have no idea who wrote "Knee-gro" on that receipt.  If I worked with that girl and saw the check before her, I would have written it just to fuck with her if I either really liked her or really hated her, haha.  (And I absolutely would not have revealed that I was the one that did it once it became a big deal.)  So who knows?  And while racism hoaxes might very well be common, I'm willing to bet any amount of money that written racist comments are waaaaay more common.  Haven't you ever read through a youtube comment thread or, and this should be completely evident to all here, your average Getbig thread?

Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Ugly on October 22, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
You are hight.  We're supposed to believe that an idiot who would write that on a credit slip with his name on it would be smart enough to know that it's not in his best interest to go public and fight the charge (because of the Streisand Effect, I presume)?  Haha.  Try again.  

Look, I have no idea who wrote "guy" on that receipt.  If I worked with that girl and saw the check before her, I would have written it just to fuck with her if I either really liked her or really hated her, haha.  (And I absolutely would not have revealed that I was the one that did it once it became a big deal.)  So who knows?  And while racism hoaxes might very well be common, I'm willing to bet any amount of money that written racist comments are waaaaay more common.  Haven't you ever read through a youtube comment thread or, and this should be completely evident to all here, your average Getbig thread?



Sure, but not when it is attached to your credit card information.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Shockwave on October 22, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
You are hight.  We're supposed to believe that an idiot who would write that on a credit slip with his name on it would be smart enough to know that it's not in his best interest to go public and fight the charge (because of the Streisand Effect, I presume)?  Haha.  Try again.  

Look, I have no idea who wrote "guy" on that receipt.  If I worked with that girl and saw the check before her, I would have written it just to fuck with her if I either really liked her or really hated her, haha.  (And I absolutely would not have revealed that I was the one that did it once it became a big deal.)  So who knows?  And while racism hoaxes might very well be common, I'm willing to bet any amount of money that written racist comments are waaaaay more common.  Haven't you ever read through a youtube comment thread or, and this should be completely evident to all here, your average Getbig thread?


just curious, are you black? Ive wondered from a couple threads niw
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 02:49:39 PM
The guy got it to go. Since when do you tip for take-out?

I tip for take-out. (A couple of bucks only, usually.)  Especially when the person giving you your food is the person who had to box it up.  (Did you never work in a restaurant?)  

Honestly, tipping is seems like a great thing for me.  When I over-tip anywhere (pizza delivery guy, haircut lady, any place I eat or pick up food), I'm pretty much guaranteed better service than the rest of the customers on subsequent visits.  I enjoy knowing that my server will leave the average getbigger's food in the window while they rush off to find me a side plate or whatever.  I usually tip about 25% if the service is pretty good or if there's a good reason (that I sympathize with) for the less than good service*.  Because of the places I eat at, the extra tip usually amounts to only an extra 3 or 4 bucks.  And it will often totally make the server happy.  (Beyond what it should, really, because fuck it, it's only 3 or 4 extra bucks.)

* About over-tipping when service is less than good:  This happens more than it should.  If, for example, I get lousy service because a server has way more tables than usual (because of staff shortage) I'll still over-tip out of sympathy since I know many of clueless tables will leave crappy tips.  It sucks to work way harder than usual and make the same or even less money than usual because there aren't enough other servers on the floor.  I'll also overtip despite lousy service when some other table is being totally shitty to the server (to the point where she's visibly upset).  When I was a server, I did not mind when a customer (usually drunk or just crazy) went off on me in loud, unfair way because I was pretty much guaranteed "sympathy over-tips" from all the tables that saw what happened.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Primemuscle on October 22, 2013, 02:59:23 PM

He goes out to eat and leaves no tip for a waitress which is pretty fucked up.  They depend on tips to pay bills as they only make about 2.13 an hour....that's what people are mainly pissed at him for rather than the n-word he also wrote.

He deserves no sympathy whatsoever and is getting what he deserves for being a cheapskate.  If you go out to eat at a restaurant, then leave a tip for your server.  He and his forensic examiner can go fuck themselves.

I didn't believe that servers only make $2.13 an hour, but according to the federal minimum wage laws this is allowed in jobs were tips are expected. Of course state laws supersede. In Oregon, 2013 minimum wage is $8.95 and hour and tips may not be used to offset this. So this is what a server makes plus tips.

I generally tip 20% or better. On the rare occasion when service has been poor, I complained to management. The last time this happened, the server was sent home on the spot and our meal was free. We are good customers. The restaurants we frequent like our business and want to keep us happy.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 03:00:03 PM
Why don't you Americans get a fair basic pay for being a waiter and rely less on tips. Put prices up and start increasing the quality of your establishments like in the civilised world. I mean Red Lobster and Olive Garden is haute cuisine for you guys. ::)

I would have thought Scotsman Gordon Ramsay would have made you lift your game a bit by now.
 :D


I think I'd be in favor of that but I'm really not sure.  When foreigners (to the USA) comment on Reddit about things that strike them as different than their home countries, they often cite customer service as being much better in the USA.  In restaurants, tipping is probably the reason.  

BTW, I don't eat at Olive Garden and will only rarely will eat at Red Lobster (only if I have some kind of BOGO-free coupon).  Incidentally, I think the food at Red Lobster is decent (the shrimp is always very fresh in my experience).  The reason I only rarely go is that the service almost always sucks.  You know why?  It's because where I live that kind of food attracts a certain kind of non-tipping customer to the point that good servers won't work there because they can't make money.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 03:00:11 PM
I usually agree with most of your posts but as a former waiter, I'm struggling with this a bit.  Is it illegal for a server to make it known to others that someone has left a sub-standard tip?  Is it really even inappropriate?  Surely it's OK for a server to tell his fellow servers that someone has a history of being a shitty tipper, right?  So how many people is it OK to tell?

There is a huge difference between telling your co-workers "this guy is a bad tipper" (or "this guy is a great tipper" or "This guy is a regular; he likes his water without lemon and is allergic to peanuts!") and publishing someone's name online. Especially when you throw accusations of racism into the mix.


Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is;  If you're gonna be a cheapskate, then own it.  It's not the end of the world.

The big deal is that my name and tipping habits are between me, the businesses I patronize and the wait staff that the businesses employ. Not the Internet at large.


DO you tip?  Would you really not tip at a place you regularly frequent?  If so, you are a brave dude with a strong immune system.

I usually tip well - even generously when I get great service - but that is irrelevant. It's my decision to do so, and I make it consciously based on my own reasons; if you must know you can chalk it up to the fact that many years ago I worked, albeit briefly, in a restaurant and I know how important tips can be when you're paid peanuts and struggling to make ends meet.

But, of course, I can afford to tip. What about someone who lives paycheck-to-paycheck and can barely make ends meet, who decides to take his girlfriend out for dinner on a special occasion? Or his kids out for pizza on their birthdays? Ask that person - who may very well work in a restaurant himself - whether he can afford an extra 20% on top of the price of food and drinks. Is the answer really "well then don't go out to eat!"? Because that's pretty fucked up.

As for the latter part of your comment, I think that only proves the point that wait staff that would tea-bag a customer's food or piss in their soup have a sense of entitlement and are unprofessional pricks. On top of that it's a form of blackmail: "tip well or else..." And you know something? I don't respond well to blackmail, even when it's silent.

If a restaurant gives me shitty service, I talk to either the server or the manager, as necessary. I may not leave a tip at all if service was particularly horrible or the issue I raised wasn't addressed to my satisfaction but only if the issue was with the server. But if things were that bad, I would be very unlikely to patronize the same establishment again. I live in Las Vegas, so it's not like my restaurant options are limited.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Ugly on October 22, 2013, 03:00:57 PM
I tip for take-out. (A couple of bucks only, usually.)  Especially when the person giving you your food is the person who had to box it up.  (Did you never work in a restaurant?)  

Honestly, tipping is seems like a great thing for me.  When I over-tip anywhere (pizza delivery guy, haircut lady, any place I eat or pick up food), I'm pretty much guaranteed better service than the rest of the customers on subsequent visits.  I enjoy knowing that my server will leave the average getbigger's food in the window while they rush off to find me a side plate or whatever.  I usually tip about 25% if the service is pretty good or if there's a good reason (that I sympathize with) for the less than good service*.  Because of the places I eat at, the extra tip usually amounts to only an extra 3 or 4 bucks.  And it will often totally make the server happy.  (Beyond what it should, really, because fuck it, it's only 3 or 4 extra bucks.)

* About over-tipping when service is less than good:  This happens more than it should.  If, for example, I get lousy service because a server has way more tables than usual (because of staff shortage) I'll still over-tip out of sympathy since I know many of clueless tables will leave crappy tips.  It sucks to work way harder than usual and make the same or even less money than usual because there aren't enough other servers on the floor.  I'll also overtip despite lousy service when some other table is being totally shitty to the server (to the point where she's visibly upset).  When I was a server, I did not mind when a customer (usually drunk or just crazy) went off on me in loud, unfair way because I was pretty much guaranteed "sympathy over-tips" from all the tables that saw what happened.


Never worked in a restaurant, but I've always been a good tipper, usually 20% plus. But I've never tipped for take-out, and I don't think most people do. Also, I got no problem stiffing for poor service. Fuck that, you can't check on us once in a while or refill the Diet Coke, you get nothing. Especially when I see them just diddling around doing nothing while we sit and wait. My girlfriend always sneaks in a tip when I'm not paying attention, but I think she's wrong. They have to get the message that they won't be rewarded for shitty service.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: avxo on October 22, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Education/UniversitiesColleges/16640/financial-help

Since 2012 all 19 Universities in Scotland are free to Scottish nationals.

Thanks for providing that link.

Another great thing from Alec Salmond.

"great" is relevant and nothing is free.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Ugly on October 22, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
 It's because where I live that kind of food attracts a certain kind of non-tipping customer

Racist post unreported.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 22, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
Incidentally, I think the food at Red Lobster is decent (the shrimp is always very fresh in my experience).  The reason I only rarely go is that the service almost always sucks.  You know why?  It's because where I live that kind of food attracts a certain kind of non-tipping customer to the point that good servers won't work there because they can't make money.

I've tried Red Lobster a few times. Problem is they fill you up with that horrible soup and scone type things (biscuits?) so you think you've eaten a lot. Servers do try harder in the USA for sure but sometimes they become annoying as they try to tell you their life story.
I'm actually shocked that some states allow $2.19 an hour. I didn't realise that, poor sods. I tip 10% in UK and 20% in USA because your food is generally cheaper than eating in UK.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 03:09:31 PM
Sure, but not when it is attached to your credit card information.

That's reasonable and likely right in most parts of the country.  In some parts of the South, though?  Not so sure.  

My sister made the mistake of marrying this navy dork who came from Tennessee. (We're from CA.) When she went to Tennessee to meet his family she saw that they seemed to be successful people with good jobs and a big, nice home.  Imagine her surprise when, at the dinner table while something or other was being discussed, her father-in-law-to-be, blurted out to a family member, "Well that's just a double-Kneegro lie!"  This little anecdote might not mean much but it seems to me like racism in the South (I've lived in NC for the last 5 years) is much more out in the open than in my home state of CA.  
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 03:11:56 PM
just curious, are you black? Ive wondered from a couple threads niw

"Sports-model kneegro" is what my full-blooded Portuguese dad used all himself.

No, I'm half portagee, half just plain white.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Ugly on October 22, 2013, 03:12:36 PM
That's reasonable and likely right in most parts of the country.  In some parts of the South, though?  Not so sure.  

My sister made the mistake of marrying this navy dork who came from Tennessee. (We're from CA.) When she went to Tennessee to meet his family she saw that they seemed to be successful people with good jobs and a big, nice home.  Imagine her surprise when, at the dinner table while something or other was being discussed, her father-in-law-to-be, blurted out to a family member, "Well that's just a double-Kneegro lie!"  This little anecdote might not mean much but it seems to me like racism in the South (I've lived in NC for the last 5 years) is much more out in the open than in my home state of CA.  

Ha, I'm gonna start using that. But just around white people.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 22, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
My sister made the mistake of marrying this navy dork who came from Tennessee. (We're from CA.) When she went to Tennessee to meet his family she saw that they seemed to be successful people with good jobs and a big, nice home.  

Imagine her surprise when, at the dinner table while something or other was being discussed, her father-in-law-to-be, blurted out to a family member, "Well that's just a double-Kneegro lie!"  This little anecdote might not mean much but it seems to me like racism in the South (I've lived in NC for the last 5 years) is much more out in the open than in my home state of CA.  

Hah! Nice one! :D
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: RRKore on October 22, 2013, 03:22:10 PM
Racist post unreported.

LOL.  Sorry, there's a lot of truth to that.  It's not just race, it's race + economic class + shrimp, I think. lol.  It's funny as fuck but the most racist servers of all are themselves, uh, ethnic.  I guess it's because they feel they have license to criticize their own and make no bones whatsoever about expressing the correlations they observe on a regular basis. 

BTW, just so I can offend some more folks, I hear that stereotypes about the shrimp eaters are waning some but some other group is quickly taking their place as the worst tippers.  I'll give you hint, you will not find good servers in restaurants with a lot of vegetarian offerings. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Shockwave on October 22, 2013, 03:24:30 PM
"Sports-model kneegro" is what my full-blooded Portuguese dad used all himself.

No, I'm half portagee, half just plain white.
ah, roger that.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Akeelsolid on October 22, 2013, 03:36:42 PM
I tip for take-out. (A couple of bucks only, usually.)  Especially when the person giving you your food is the person who had to box it up.  (Did you never work in a restaurant?)  

Honestly, tipping is seems like a great thing for me.  When I over-tip anywhere (pizza delivery guy, haircut lady, any place I eat or pick up food), I'm pretty much guaranteed better service than the rest of the customers on subsequent visits.  I enjoy knowing that my server will leave the average getbigger's food in the window while they rush off to find me a side plate or whatever.  I usually tip about 25% if the service is pretty good or if there's a good reason (that I sympathize with) for the less than good service*.  Because of the places I eat at, the extra tip usually amounts to only an extra 3 or 4 bucks.  And it will often totally make the server happy.  (Beyond what it should, really, because fuck it, it's only 3 or 4 extra bucks.)

* About over-tipping when service is less than good:  This happens more than it should.  If, for example, I get lousy service because a server has way more tables than usual (because of staff shortage) I'll still over-tip out of sympathy since I know many of clueless tables will leave crappy tips.  It sucks to work way harder than usual and make the same or even less money than usual because there aren't enough other servers on the floor.  I'll also overtip despite lousy service when some other table is being totally shitty to the server (to the point where she's visibly upset).  When I was a server, I did not mind when a customer (usually drunk or just crazy) went off on me in loud, unfair way because I was pretty much guaranteed "sympathy over-tips" from all the tables that saw what happened.


Fact-being african-american, When my wife and I are out we are usually, on the "list of people who dont tip" (whatever) I always tip 20%, if the service is great, i do the Bill Murray tip and whatever the bill was i tip the same $100 bill = $100 tip, RRK is right about service, and it is VERY wonderful to know, my family and I are accommodated graciously, and treated with extra attention.
I was taught from the old school "if you cant afford the tip dont eat out"
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Shockwave on October 22, 2013, 03:38:46 PM
Fact-being african-american, When my wife and I are out we are usually, on the "list of people who dont tip" (whatever) I always tip 20%, if the service is great, i do the Bill Murray tip and whatever the bill was i tip the same $100 bill = $100 tip, RRK is right about service, and it is VERY wonderful to know, my family and I are accommodated graciously, and treated with extra attention.
I was taught from the old school "if you cant afford the tip dont eat out"
you tip.100% for good service?

hahahaha.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Archer77 on October 22, 2013, 04:05:21 PM
You are high.  We're supposed to believe that an idiot who would write that on a credit slip with his name on it would be smart enough to know that it's not in his best interest to go public and fight the charge (because of the Streisand Effect, I presume)?  Haha.  Try again.  

Look, I have no idea who wrote "Knee-gro" on that receipt.  If I worked with that girl and saw the check before her, I would have written it just to fuck with her if I either really liked her or really hated her, haha.  (And I absolutely would not have revealed that I was the one that did it once it became a big deal.)  So who knows?  And while racism hoaxes might very well be common, I'm willing to bet any amount of money that written racist comments are waaaaay more common.  Haven't you ever read through a youtube comment thread or, and this should be completely evident to all here, your average Getbig thread?



Why would he make his face known to the media if he's guilty?  He could have easily walked away and all of this would have blown over.   He didn't do it and he's going to make a nice chunk of change off of this.

There is a difference between writing a slur on a receipt at a restaurant he probably frequents and lives relatively close to and posting a stupid anonymous comment on YouTube. 
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: tu_holmes on October 22, 2013, 04:33:14 PM
Cleared by a handwriting expert... I think we know what's up.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Cold on October 22, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
The manager of the restaurant confirmed that this couple order food, but then changed it to a "to-go" order. They didn't eat there.

WTF was this black beetch complaining about?
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
Not that I don't think you're more credible than the official website. ::)

 ;D

Typical getbig... lol
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 06:11:02 PM
As a former waiter, I don't agree with this.  If you've worked in a restaurant before you can usually tell why your service is shitty.  And when it's due to the server just sucking, then they need to reqularly get stiffed (get no tip) so that they're forced to quit a job they can't handle.  And believe you me, being a foodserver can be a difficult and highly stressful job.  Many people just can't do it well no matter what.
If service is bad and slow, I just tip my hat as i walk out.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 06:13:58 PM
If I've learned one thing from this thread, it's that BIG AL MCKECHNIE is probably the most unlikeable son of a bitch on getbig.

Are Scots generally this goofy?

???
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: beakdoctor on October 22, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
That anyone at all believes he wrote that on a reciept is ridiculous. She was pissed because he didn't tip. End of story. She posted it on facebook to embarass him. Now that the story blew up she has no other choice but to stick to her shit story. Good for him for defending his name.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 22, 2013, 06:25:37 PM
Cleared by a handwriting expert... I think we know what's up.


The handwriting expert should check her handwriting. I'm guessing they would find a match...
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Princess L on October 22, 2013, 07:51:09 PM
The guy got it to go. Since when do you tip for take-out?

X2
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
The homosexual carry out guy at PF Changs will put you on one hell of a guilt trip if you don't tip him. 

He probably thought about writing homo on the receipt I signed.

 ;D
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: polychronopolous on October 22, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
The homosexual carry out guy at PF Changs will put you on one hell of a guilt trip if you don't tip him. 

He probably thought about writing homo on the receipt I signed.

 ;D

That's funny, Vaughn.
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 22, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
That's funny, Vaughn.

Thanks, I needed that!!
Title: Re: Waitress who accused customer of writing racial slur on tip line, being sued
Post by: leonp1981 on October 22, 2013, 10:29:19 PM
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Education/UniversitiesColleges/16640/financial-help

Since 2012 all 19 Universities in Scotland are free to Scottish nationals.

That'll soon disappear if you guys vote for independence!   ;D