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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Big Chiro Flex on October 31, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
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I pinned a bicep once and for 4 days couldn't pull stuff, do not do it lol.
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I pinned a bicep once and for 4 days couldn't pull stuff, do not do it lol.
Damn!
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I dont do it, put a dry needle in once to test the spot but that ended up creating some pain for a few days. I worry that a smaller muscle like bicep could more easily tear with oil in them or maybe I am wrong.
Quads, Glutes, Lats and Delts for me.
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I've pinned bis and tris with no ill effect. But thinking about it now I'm a bit paranoid of losing definition, or affecting the shape of the muscle negatively. Gonna try to stick to spots that aren't visible(with clothes and not competing) from now on like glutes, quads, and hips. Will probably hit delts the odd time too...
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Believe it or not I've only hit delts my last 2 (and only cycles.) time to try something new :'(
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You lot are soft as shit. Pinning bis aint shit same as tris. You must have a unsteady hand or shit gear if your getting problems.
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You lot are soft as shit. Pinning bis aint shit same as tris. You must have a unsteady hand or shit gear if your getting problems.
Heads up fellas, he got a badass over here. Everyone on your best behavior. Let's steer the discussion to monster trucks and drinking beer (manly shit.) ;D
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bro did biceps once, never again. Had tons of pain and couldn't contract the muscle properly for more than a week.
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It's not bad so long as the gear is smooth enough to flow through a slin pin. I've had pretty good results with TNE/liquid dbol/liquid drol blend pre-workout. 1cc in each bicep. It definitely takes a little getting used to.
DO NOT PIN TREN in your bicep...I tried it once and hurt like hell.
I don't use either biceps or triceps as a "regular" site, but pinning them before an arm workout with the right stuff can have positive results.
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It burns like a guy ...... I've pinned organon sust and Schering test so it wasn't the gear but I can do calves with all great
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It burns like a guy ...... I've pinned organon sust and Schering test so it wasn't the gear but I can do calves with all great
Now that scares me!
How many cc's you manage to get in there shrek?
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Now that scares me!
How many cc's you manage to get in there shrek?
I've done 1cc tren ace mixes with 1 cc test ..... I'll split the shot in 2 and do half in the inner calf muscle and then the outer muscle and do the other calf the next set off shots
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what gauge bro in calf? I tried 25 and it was too large (hurt like hell and hit a number of veins)
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You lot are soft as shit. Pinning bis aint shit same as tris. You must have a unsteady hand or shit gear if your getting problems.
could it perhaps be that you happen to be too fat for the needle actualyy hitting the muscle tissue(medical term mom arms)?
just curious
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I get my pinns at a vet supply store so I use 1" 22g
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I've done bis and I'll flex to find my target area then relax and smoothly and slowly inject but it still burns after a few hours
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could it perhaps be that you happen to be too fat for the needle actualyy hitting the muscle tissue(medical term mom arms)?
just curious
haha
Nah he's in good shape bro, but his mom told me every time he switches brands of bcaa's he tends to get a bit aggressive.
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I've done 1cc tren ace mixes with 1 cc test ..... I'll split the shot in 2 and do half in the inner calf muscle and then the outer muscle and do the other calf the next set off shots
lol i did 1cc of tren ace with a slin pin 27guage... never again...
Calves? Yikes... scary. I can only imagine the cramp potential :-X
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I do it all the time, but it took a while to get used to it. Sometimes they will be sore for a few days. At first it was painful, but after a few times it just feels tight. I won't shoot more than 2cc in my bi's.
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I used to shoot winstrol depot in the bi's and tri's with a 25g needle 1 inch depth. Never had any kind of pain or abcess maybe because it's aquous and pharma grade.
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ok seriosuly now, shooting into tris or bis is insainity, dont do that ffs.
havent you seen the bostin thread?seen his arm?it went good for so long for him and then boom.
fucking hell that arm looks like a case for amputuation.
i have seen things over time, a guy injecting into bicep and when he draw needle out, the blood would shoot out like fountain.
seen ppl hitting calves, abs!, lower chest!!! and whatnot, just dont do that stuff.
what in the fuck you expecting from those shots?gains at the particular area?please.
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ok seriosuly now, shooting into tris or bis is insainity, dont do that ffs.
havent you seen the bostin thread?seen his arm?it went good for so long for him and then boom.
fucking hell that arm looks like a case for amputuation.
i have seen things over time, a guy injecting into bicep and when he draw needle out, the blood would shoot out like fountain.
seen ppl hitting calves, abs!, lower chest!!! and whatnot, just dont do that stuff.
what in the fuck you expecting from those shots?gains at the particular area?please.
Maybe the following will inspire my buddy dj181 to start injecting.....
Nandrolone decanoate increases satellite cell numbers in the chicken pectoralis muscle.
The anabolic androgenic steroid nandrolone decanoate has minimal androgenic effects and, thus, is widely used to induce muscle hypertrophy in both patients and athletes. Although increases in satellite cell numbers and satellite cells giving rise to new myonuclei are associated with hypertrophy in many experimental models, the relationship between nandrolone and satellite cells is poorly understood. Here we test the hypothesis that nandrolone administration is associated with an increase in satellite cell numbers in muscle. Nandrolone was injected at weekly intervals for four weeks into the right pectoralis muscle of female white leghorn chickens aged 63 days post hatch. Age/size/sex matched control birds received saline injections. The contralateral pectoralis was excised for study from each control and nandrolone treated bird. An antibody against Pax7 and immunocytochemical techniques were used to identify satellite cells. Nandrolone significantly increased mean pectoralis mass by approximately 22%, and mean fiber diameter by about 24%. All satellite cell indices that were quantified increased significantly in chicken pectoralis with administration of nandrolone. Nandrolone injected birds had on average higher satellite cell frequencies (#SC nuclei/all nuclei within basal lamina), number of satellite cells per millimeter of fiber, and satellite cell concentrations (closer together). Myonuclei were further apart (less concentrated) in nandrolone injected muscle. However, an overall increase in myonuclear numbers was revealed by a significantly greater mean number of myonuclei per millimeter of fiber in nandrolone injected muscle. Our results suggest that satellite cells may be key cellular vectors for nandrolone induced muscle fiber hypertrophy.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20017100
No seriously though.... all chickens aside, I did pin my left bi and tri exclusively for sometime and it did catch up to my right arm in measurement. There's a thread here were OTH explains the mechanism behind it.
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I do biceps injects all the time now. Delts I avoid. Just use a 25-27 gauge and don't inject too high volume. Avoid Test prop or Sustanon unless you want to know what it feels like to get shot in the arm. I never have had a problem other than some bruising in the area after a few shots. Remember to do both biceps heads. triceps are a bitch to do on your own. Paul Borreson had a little manual on how to do site injects that was decent.
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could it perhaps be that you happen to be too fat for the needle actualyy hitting the muscle tissue(medical term mom arms)?
just curious
Yeah thats it your spot on im really really fat yeah i dont have any muscle just fat, im a blobbybuilder .
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Yeah thats it your spot on im really really fat yeah i dont have any muscle just fat, im a blobbybuilder .
Settle down Gertrude.
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Settle down Gertrude.
just pin your bicep, first time will hurt like any virgin muscle then it will be fine nothing to be scared of big dawg or dont big dawg
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So I decided to hit the calf , WOOOOOOO its gonna get sore 1cc tren 1cc test nice and slow
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So I decided to hit the calf , WOOOOOOO its gonna get sore 1cc tren 1cc test nice and slow
Shrek you're nuts!!
I pinned quads for first time today and as soon as the needle went in I had the muscle twitch like mofo. Never had that happen elsewhere before, but kept it in there aspirated and pushed that plunger down.
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I did that years back and the fucking needle went in straight then twitch and it was pointing in a different direction..... I hate quads I used to inject in the tear drop of my quads I can't reach tris let's or traps so I've never shot there
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I did that years back and the fucking needle went in straight then twitch and it was pointing in a different direction..... I hate quads I used to inject in the tear drop of my quads I can't reach tris let's or traps so I've never shot there
LOL...yeah I hope this doesn't keep happening.
I didn't have to resort this for tris but I saw some guys using the towel rack in the bathroom. They just stuck the arm in there letting the tri hang and pinning from the bottom up.
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LOL...yeah I hope this doesn't keep happening.
I didn't have to resort this for tris but I saw some guys using the towel rack in the bathroom. They just stuck the arm in there letting the tri hang and pinning from the bottom up.
WTF in the gym bathroom, ha that's fucking bold ..... I know everyone at my gym assumes I'm juicing but no one will approach me about it but ain't no way I would pin in public
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WTF in the gym bathroom, ha that's fucking bold ..... I know everyone at my gym assumes I'm juicing but no one will approach me about it but ain't no way I would pin in public
ahh sorry man I meant online...with pics and everything don't remember what site it was from.
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ahh sorry man I meant online...with pics and everything don't remember what site it was from.
what
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what
Could've been a drug induced hallucination :-\
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You lot are soft as shit. Pinning bis aint shit same as tris. You must have a unsteady hand or shit gear if your getting problems.
This
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i dunno about it being easy,,,, in my thong wearing days, just to spread the joy of ed shots i did bi's once a week... ive seen me try to get the needle in several times only to have to pull it out and start again either hitting nerves or finding blood in the barrel when i aspirated ( please brothers, aspirate on all your non glute shots, also, try your 1st shot of any new batch of gear in your glutes, you realy dont want an abcess dug out of anywhere else )
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It's interesting to hear how different shots can be for people. I have problems with delts so i avoid them but no probs with bis or tris. Just make sure to do both heads for bis or you will start to get that fucked up Bostin loyd look to your arms. all uneven and globby. Avoid short acting drugs, hurt like a bitch.
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It's interesting to hear how different shots can be for people. I have problems with delts so i avoid them but no probs with bis or tris. Just make sure to do both heads for bis or you will start to get that fucked up Bostin loyd look to your arms. all uneven and globby. Avoid short acting drugs, hurt like a bitch.
dies anyone do pec shots
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dies anyone do pec shots
I did a few times. kind of freaked me out honestly. Something about sticking a needle into your chest. That old Paul Borresson site inject manual and this one website i cannot remember the name of about site shots was helpful. The only thing I have not done is back because I cannot do it alone. Done traps a lot though. Easy to shoot traps and they get bigger when you do them frequently. I dont think shooting chest will help as much as bis tris delts. Try traps if you need a new spot. Make sure you go straight down into them.
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Glutes for me now. Used to hit quads often but too much scar tissue and if the stuff causes swelling and/or pip it sucks in quads
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Haaaaa so I pinned the calf and the guy is warm and red ........ woooooooo get some
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biceps take a while to get used to, only thing I ever thrown in there was tren, everything else is painful. triceps, never.
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so I know I said I'd never hit biceps again, but this thread got me curious, I gave it a go again when I did arms this week. Last time I used a slin pin (0.5 inch) with tren. This time, like a mad man, I shot 1ml of TNE (with 25g 1.5"). It stung, was ok at gym, hurt a bit a night, fine the next day. Might hit the other bicep next time.
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so I know I said I'd never hit biceps again, but this thread got me curious, I gave it a go again when I did arms this week. Last time I used a slin pin (0.5 inch) with tren. This time, like a mad man, I shot 1ml of TNE (with 25g 1.5"). It stung, was ok at gym, hurt a bit a night, fine the next day. Might hit the other bicep next time.
I think 1.5 is the way to go
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I've pinned bis and tris with no ill effect. But thinking about it now I'm a bit paranoid of losing definition, or affecting the shape of the muscle negatively. Gonna try to stick to spots that aren't visible(with clothes and not competing) from now on like glutes, quads, and hips. Will probably hit delts the odd time too...
You've got more balls than me. you couldn't pay me enough to pin anywhere but my glutes or delts. Even quads scare me, I never did quads.
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You've got more balls than me. you couldn't pay me enough to pin anywhere but my glutes or delts. Even quads scare me, I never did quads.
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Team Glutes & Delts
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yeah it sucks I'm gonna stick to orals only ;D
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I dont think winstrol would be ideal for rugby, maybe for speed power and recovery but it leaves things too dry and prone to injury.
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yeah it sucks I'm gonna stick to orals only ;D
You're not DJ181
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anablohalo style question
what happens if you use too short needles and only hit the subq fat,instead of muscle?
does it enter bloodstream anyway and at same speed?
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anablohalo style question
what happens if you use too short needles and only hit the subq fat,instead of muscle?
does it enter bloodstream anyway and at same speed?
Some HRT docs use sub-q injections. There's a popular poster on this board, can't remember his name, but he exclusively uses SubQ. Ive read mixed things. Some say it will aromatics quicker due to presence of ARomatase within SubQ fat. Other stuff says it will have no effect on ARomatase any differently. I've asked this question before, very interesting stuff. If you start a tread on it I'm sure that poster will respond, he's very knowledgable about it. He even posted some HRT docs youtube videos explaining science behind it. Anything injected will hit the bloodstream eventually though. Same way when you pin specific peptides sub q, they "hit" you in as quick as 60 seconds.
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Shrek you're nuts!!
I pinned quads for first time today and as soon as the needle went in I had the muscle twitch like mofo. Never had that happen elsewhere before, but kept it in there aspirated and pushed that plunger down.
i did hcg in my quads. Went in real smooth 8)
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anablohalo style question
what happens if you use too short needles and only hit the subq fat,instead of muscle?
does it enter bloodstream anyway and at same speed?
first time i tried quads, i slowly pushed in the needle and stopped short before actually inserting it in the muscle.(because of pain). I anyways pushed in the plunger. Slowly the hcg got concentrated under the skin and looked like a bee sting. I thought it will take time to clear out. But remarkable the it was gone within a minute. I am not sure whether it wss sub-q or the sub-q fat.
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Some HRT docs use sub-q injections. There's a popular poster on this board, can't remember his name, but he exclusively uses SubQ. Ive read mixed things. Some say it will aromatics quicker due to presence of ARomatase within SubQ fat. Other stuff says it will have no effect on ARomatase any differently. I've asked this question before, very interesting stuff. If you start a tread on it I'm sure that poster will respond, he's very knowledgable about it. He even posted some HRT docs youtube videos explaining science behind it. Anything injected will hit the bloodstream eventually though. Same way when you pin specific peptides sub q, they "hit" you in as quick as 60 seconds.
MAWSE...PAGING MAWSE!!!
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MAWSE...PAGING MAWSE!!!
That's it!
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Some HRT docs use sub-q injections. There's a popular poster on this board, can't remember his name, but he exclusively uses SubQ. Ive read mixed things. Some say it will aromatics quicker due to presence of ARomatase within SubQ fat. Other stuff says it will have no effect on ARomatase any differently. I've asked this question before, very interesting stuff. If you start a tread on it I'm sure that poster will respond, he's very knowledgable about it. He even posted some HRT docs youtube videos explaining science behind it. Anything injected will hit the bloodstream eventually though. Same way when you pin specific peptides sub q, they "hit" you in as quick as 60 seconds.
all the labels in pharma boxes containing oil based gear read: for sub-q injection ONLY
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Some HRT docs use sub-q injections. There's a popular poster on this board, can't remember his name, but he exclusively uses SubQ. Ive read mixed things. Some say it will aromatics quicker due to presence of ARomatase within SubQ fat. Other stuff says it will have no effect on ARomatase any differently. I've asked this question before, very interesting stuff. If you start a tread on it I'm sure that poster will respond, he's very knowledgable about it. He even posted some HRT docs youtube videos explaining science behind it. Anything injected will hit the bloodstream eventually though. Same way when you pin specific peptides sub q, they "hit" you in as quick as 60 seconds.
fatpanda? :D
im not overly concern with aromatizing, adex makes that a non issue :D
i just heard or read in old steroid handbook that it might take longer for the stuff to work, but that doesnt make sense,does it?
if one does mt2 or hgh shots,thjose are subq too and they work quite immediately.mt2 get first feelable effet within couple minutes(leaves a lump too,as macos has described), and hgh is in and out same day.also leaves a lump,so i heard
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all the labels in pharma boxes containing oil based gear read: for sub-q injection ONLY
Not mine. Mine says intramuscular use only. Watson Test Cypionate from a USA pharmacy btw. Never seen oil based sub q only directions ever.
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all the labels in pharma boxes containing oil based gear read: for sub-q injection ONLY
Interesting! Had no clue
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fatpanda? :D
im not overly concern with aromatizing, adex makes that a non issue :D
i just heard or read in old steroid handbook that it might take longer for the stuff to work, but that doesnt make sense,does it?
if one does mt2 or hgh shots,thjose are subq too and they work quite immediately.mt2 get first feelable effet within couple minutes(leaves a lump too,as macos has described), and hgh is in and out same day.also leaves a lump,so i heard
We gotta get Mawse to post the vids of his HRT doc. Will answer our questions
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Oil based steroids are basically oil, i.e., fat. Now if you inject fat, in some more fat, you will end up having a lot of fat. Fat as we all know has the lower blood circulation than skin or muscle. Therefore, the molecule of AAS inside all that fat will take longer to get absorbed into the bloodstream. You can also read up stuff about poisoning caused by overdose of fat soluble vitamins. They just stay in all that fat for a very long time.
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We gotta get Mawse to post the vids of his HRT doc. Will answer our questions
bro i have two types of hcg. Just checked the labels. The one in powdered form has specific instruction of INTRAMUSCULAR Inj. ONLY.
The other one is the pre-mixed vial. It reads, sub-q OR intramuscular. The sub-q shot i took was the premixed one.
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bro i have two types of hcg. Just checked the labels. The one in powdered form has specific instruction of INTRAMUSCULAR Inj. ONLY.
The other one is the pre-mixed vial. It reads, sub-q OR intramuscular. The sub-q shot i took was the premixed one.
Well now I'm really confused because I thought most peptide hormones are supposed to be sub-q
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yeah it sucks I'm gonna stick to orals only ;D
Willem tracking the streets for free stuff with a surprised look on his face you got to look hard to find him he is sneaky.
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Well now I'm really confused because I thought most peptide hormones are supposed to be sub-q
its pharm grade. So there has to be some science backing it.
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Well now I'm really confused because I thought most peptide hormones are supposed to be sub-q
A lot of drugs that can be administered intramuscularly can also be used subq. The difference in that case is absorption time and comfort of the shots. Some drugs will specifically say not to use in one way or the other. The big distinction is whether you can use them IV. I think that is where the distinction becomes most important. Obvioiusly no oil can be use IV, but a lot of drugs will say IV, IM, or SubQ use. Thinking of Nubain. You could inject nubain IM, subq or IV. The difference is how long it takes to kick in.
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Willem tracking the streets for free stuff with a surprised look on his face you got to look hard to find him he is sneaky.
I SAW HIM! :D
Looks like a good flick man...some good actors in there!
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true all peptides are mostly subq ,according to the labels.
and the oil based sterois are im, never seen steroids which say subq
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true all peptides are mostly subq ,according to the labels.
and the oil based sterois are im, never seen steroids which say subq
X2. I don't know what gear macos is getting, but I have never seen subq use only on any human pharma grade gear box.
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My training partner (in our more immature days) used to stick our used needles/syringes into the ceiling tiles of the Powerhouse Gym we used to train at. We would also pull the plunger all the way down so as to be more obvious. It was hard keeping a straight face on the gym floor when we'd hear people talking about it and such. 8)
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all the labels in pharma boxes containing oil based gear read: for sub-q injection ONLY
Correction: its Intramuscular Only.
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My bad.
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Correction: its Intramuscular Only.
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My bad.
Exactly, you had me looking at my boxes there for a minute.
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depends on what you are pinning. some pils work great when pinned in the biceps amything to harsh cutt it with a little EQ, very simple to do as long as the pin is clean, ]