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Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege, racism due to Common Core
October 18, 2013 by Michael Dorstewitz
Your fourth-grader may be getting a little instruction in racism and white privilege along with his lessons in reading and writing.
A series of teaching guides, published recently by Zaner- Bloser Inc. and designed to be compliant with Common Core national standards in math and English, appear to do exactly that, according to EAG News.
The suggested fourth-grade lesson plan dedicates two weeks to the book, “The Jacket,” and mixes a little literature with a heavy dose of “white privilege,” according to EAG, which reported:
The story centers around a young white boy named Phil who wrongly accuses an African-American student of stealing his brother’s jacket.
It’s a fun little book about racism and white privilege – a left-wing concept that teaches African Americans the values of American society are designed to benefit white people.
Maybe it’s time we went back to the “Dick and Jane” series, when kids actually learned how to read and comprehend, free of ideology.
Watch the video from EAG News.
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LOL racism against whites continues
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lets not talk about black privilege like affirmative action and quotas though...thats racist!!!!
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Disgusting. There is no excuse for this type of indoctrination.
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Teaching racism in 4th grade. Genius.
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I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.
I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.
I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots. ::)
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Teaching racism in 4th grade. Genius.
...as opposed to the racism they're complicitly taught coming right out of the birth canal. HA!
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I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.
I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.
I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots. ::)
This isn't addressing inequality, it's teaching victimization and scapegoating. It's a device used to alienate, stigmatize and marginalize a segment of the population. You're training children to view a group as an abuser ultimately creating hostility. You're also training kids to view themselves as abusers and innately evil, potentially causing great damage to their their mental health and self esteem. But you're a racist, so I guess you get off on that.
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...as opposed to the racism they're complicitly taught coming right out of the birth canal. HA!
Total myth brought to you by the victim industry. Only a small number of people are complicity taught to be racist from a young age. You're buying into the Sharpton and Jackson mythology of victimization. The kind of racist curriculum being taught here encourages racial conflict. They are teaching one group to be suspicious of the other, breeding animosity and hostility, while instilling self loathing and guilt in children for actions of the past and situations beyond their control. Use some common sense, this isn't ethical and it's harmful.
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I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.
I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.
I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots. ::)
what inequality in society is due to racism?
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This isn't addressing inequality, it's teaching victimization and scapegoating. It's a device used to alienate, stigmatize and marginalize a segment of the population. You're training children to view a group as an abuser ultimately creating hostility. You're also training kids to view themselves as abusers and innately evil, potentially causing great damage to their their mental health and self esteem. But you're a racist, so I guess you get off on that.
It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol
Total myth brought to you by the victim industry. Only a small number of people are complicity taught to be racist from a young age. You're buying into the Sharpton and Jackson mythology of victimization. The kind of racist curriculum being taught here encourages racial conflict. They are teaching one group to be suspicious of the other, breeding animosity and hostility, while instilling self loathing and guilt in children for actions of the past and situations beyond their control. Use some common sense, this isn't ethical and it's harmful.
I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.
I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.
Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.
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what inequality in society is due to racism?
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It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol
I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.
I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.
Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.
White privilege is a talking point, nothing more. It's simple scapegoating, similar in message and tone to the rampant anti-semitism seen in Europe. If one doesn't succeed it must be as a result of white privledge. Whites are conspiring against minorities. It's all nonsense.
Now the argument could be made that their is wealth privilege. The mistake I see is tying privilege exclusively to whiteness.
One, it's not exactly true for all whites..whatever that generic term white means.
Two, it breeds contempt, resentment and division. An entire group of people are being intentionally stigmatized unfairly. It's creating a false perception that all whites are successful because of privledge and not ability.
And third, it's not the domain of the educational system to be indoctrinating children with a concept that is purely political and ideological in nature.
Asians and those of Jewish ethnicity have on average higher IQs and greater income levels than non-Jewish whites. So you recommend teaching Jewish and Asian privilege? Not to mention the trillions of dollars spend o programs for minorities paid for almost exclusively by white tax payers. Hiring rules for minorities and so on. Modifying the rules for minorities in law enforcement, military, college entrance and other civil service jobs are all examples of black privilege.
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It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol
I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.
I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.
Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.
You are racist though. Extremely racist. And teaching children that theyre success is somehow in part to their skin color is extremely fucking racist. Maybe when american blacks are meeting the same qualifications as all the other races and still being held down, then you can complain about privilege. Right now they're woefully sub par in almost all education and standardized testing compared to every other race.
how about instead of blaming others for failure, they step up and actually fucking compete.
im so sick of hearing the black community blame everyone for their failures as a race and culture. They need to quit bitching, get off their fucking ass, and take responsibility for themselves. There is no reason in modern America for them to fail besides their own ignorance and laziness.
rant over.
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You are racist though
she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites
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LOL racism against whites continues
But wait, it is impossible according to the libtards to be racist against whites. It just does not happen because all minorities are perfect, compassionate, celestial beings who are only in their predicament becasue of the evil white male. ::)
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But wait, it is impossible according to the libtards to be racist against whites. It just does not happen because all minorities are perfect, compassionate, celestial beings who are only in their predicament becasue of the evil white male. ::)
tell me about it as a half japanese individual, whites are to blame for me not being more successful than I am. I mean if it werent for them I would be making 7 figures and fuking supermodels
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she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites
I edited inton epic rant on the failure of the black community to take responsibility for anything.
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she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites
I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large. As you have white privilege you also have black criminality.
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I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large. As you have white privilege you also have black criminality.
hahah she would say that black criminality is to be blamed on white privilege and then tell us how it doesnt create hostility and animosity
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I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large. As you have white privilege you also have black criminality.
not to mention the woefully sad performance with regards to education and standardized testing.
oh wait, I forgot, its because education and standardized testing are racist.
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hahah she would say that black criminality is to be blamed on white privilege and then tell us how it doesnt create hostility and animosity
Oh course she would. She, like a sizable number of individuals within the black community need a bogey man onto which to lay blame. The term white privilege has become in vogue after the election of Obama. Calling someone racist is still a very useful tool to manipulate whites through guilt but it's lost some of power in recent years.
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not to mention the woefully sad performance with regards to education and standardized testing.
oh wait, I forgot, its because education and standardized testing are racist.
Standardized tests are racists yet Asian immigrants right off the boat who possess limited English skills are scoring higher than native born citizens.
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White privilege is a talking point, nothing more. It's simple scapegoating, similar in message and tone to the rampant anti-semitism seen in Europe. If one doesn't succeed it must be as a result of white privledge. Whites are conspiring against minorities. It's all nonsense.
Now the argument could be made that their is wealth privilege. The mistake I see is tying privilege exclusively to whiteness.
One, it's not exactly true for all whites..whatever that generic term white means.
Two, it breeds contempt, resentment and division. An entire group of people are being intentionally stigmatized unfairly. It's creating a false perception that all whites are successful because of privledge and not ability.
And third, it's not the domain of the educational system to be indoctrinating children with a concept that is purely political and ideological in nature.
Asians and those of Jewish ethnicity have on average higher IQs and greater income levels than non-Jewish whites. So you recommend teaching Jewish and Asian privilege? Not to mention the trillions of dollars spend o programs for minorities paid for almost exclusively by white tax payers. Hiring rules for minorities and so on. Modifying the rules for minorities in law enforcement, military, college entrance and other civil service jobs are all examples of black privilege.
OK, it's pretty clear that you don't understand what white priviledge is.
It is neither an excuse for failure, nor a reason for success, and it certainly is considerably more than just a mere talking point. It is the state of affairs within North America. You can choose to deny it, or dismiss it all you want, it will still be there.
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OK, it's pretty clear that you don't understand what white priviledge is.
It is neither an excuse for failure, nor a reason for success, and it certainly is considerably more than just a mere talking point. It is the state of affairs within North America. You can choose to deny it, or dismiss it all you want, it will still be there.
Its a political tool used by the left to marginalize the opposition and control the dialogue. To teach innocent children guilt and self loathing is abusive and immoral. I would be willing to bet you all the tea in china that I experience more racism and poverty than you have. And its infuriating when self righteous people like yourself feel like they can label me and generalize my experience simply because I happen to be white.
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You are racist though. Extremely racist.
Excuse me? Me... racist? You gotta be off your rocker!!!
I've been fighting racism my whole life... from Blacks & Whites!
And teaching children that theyre success is somehow in part to their skin color is extremely fucking racist.
And who the heck is doing that? Certainly not me!!!
Maybe when american blacks are meeting the same qualifications as all the other races and still being held down, then you can complain about privilege. Right now they're woefully sub par in almost all education and standardized testing compared to every other race.
how about instead of blaming others for failure, they step up and actually fucking compete.
im so sick of hearing the black community blame everyone for their failures as a race and culture. They need to quit bitching, get off their fucking ass, and take responsibility for themselves. There is no reason in modern America for them to fail besides their own ignorance and laziness.
rant over.
I'm glad you're done ranting... I wouldn't want you to pop a blood vessel or anything.
At the risk of setting you off, may I ask when it was, or how it was you came to the conclusion that I have ever referred to test scores as indicative of white skin priviledge.
White Skin Priviledge is what it is, and it does exist, ...however I've never been an advocate for one to simply cry in their beer, Kool-aid, ...purple drank. I say until it is eradicated, recognize it, ...deal with it, ...and find ways to overcome it. Is that what makes me a racist in your eyes?
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Excuse me? Me... racist? You gotta be off your rocker!!!
I've been fighting racism my whole life... from Blacks & Whites!
And who the heck is doing that? Certainly not me!!!
I'm glad you're done ranting... I wouldn't want you to pop a blood vessel or anything.
At the risk of setting you off, may I ask when it was, or how it was you came to the conclusion that I have ever referred to test scores as indicative of white skin priviledge.
White Skin Priviledge is what it is, and it does exist, ...however I've never been an advocate for one to simply cry in their beer, Kool-aid, ...purple drank. I say until it is eradicated, recognize it, ...deal with it, ...and find ways to overcome it. Is that what makes me a racist in your eyes?
You don't even want to compare tales of racism. Being black doesnt mean anything at all.
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When are you going to deal with black violence and interracial rape? When are you going to deal with black fathers abandoning their children? As long as the black community has excuses like white privilege to blame for their problems, they never will.
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Its a political tool used by the left to marginalize the opposition and control the dialogue.
I completely disagree
To teach innocent children guilt and self loathing is abusive and immoral.
I completely agree, ...and sadly, that is something mainstream North American society does to little Black children every day. The racism is so systemic that most rarely notice it... Black or White. It's still there.
Do we know that "teaching guilt & self loathing is what "The Jacket" does, ...or are you assuming?
I would be willing to bet you all the tea in china that I experience more racism and poverty than you have. And its infuriating when self righteous people like yourself feel like they can label me and generalize my experience simply because I happen to be white.
First let me say I'm sorry you experience racism.
As one who also experiences it myself to certain degrees, I know it's not fun at all.
Secondly, I'm sorry you experience poverty. I've experienced hard times and I know thats not fun either.
BTW: If you want to escape poverty, a world of lack & restriction, and move into financial freedom and prosperity, ...I can help you with that. :D Just PM me. ;) :P seriously.
Thirdly, I have never once generalized about YOUR experience, ...however, by your very statement,
and offer to bet me all the tea in China, it appears you have generalized MINE. Hmmm... :-\
I think too many people have too many knee-jerk reactions, reading far more into things than what has actually been stated, ...and sometimes reading only what they want to see or expect to see.
For example: I was once having a conversation with a girlfriend in Louisiana, wherein I stated "I don't know if I could really enjoy living in the USA, there's just far too many racist people in the states for my liking." Do you know what her immediate response was? She burst out with "Well Blacks can be racist too ya know". I was like WTF? Isn't that what I just said? ...that there were too many racist people in the states? To which she responded "Oh, I thought you were only referring to Whites." Of course I then took the opportunity to screw with her head a little bit by countering "Are implying that Blacks are not people?" lol. Just to point out the ridiculousness of her thinking. It's like the term "reverse-racism" used to describe Black racist attitudes towards Whites. seriously.. "reverse-racism"? ??? Good grief!! Racism is Racism PERIOD! If anything, what's called for is true reverse-racism, ...not more racism.
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You don't even want to compare tales of racism.
No I wouldn't. I'm not one to wallow in a pity party and don't encourage this sort of thing in others.
Being black doesnt mean anything at all.
It shouldn't, ...but it evidently holds great significance for many Tea Party members, Klan members, and many who dislike the current President. It also means an entirely whole set of experiences that many who are not Black can not relate to.
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No I wouldn't. I'm not one to wallow in a pity party and don't encourage this sort of thing in others.
It shouldn't, ...but it evidently holds great significance for many Tea Party members, Klan members, and many who dislike the current President. It also means an entirely whole set of experiences that many who are not Black can not relate to.
Black people never hesitate to put a mirror up to whites. Im only doing the same thing to them.
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When are you going to deal with black violence and interracial rape? When are you going to deal with black fathers abandoning their children? As long as the black community has excuses like white privilege to blame for their problems, they never will.
Wow, ...we've made the leap from a fourth grade English book to violence, child abandonment, and interracial rape?
Wow! If you'll excuse me... I have a few phone calls to make. Enjoy the rest of the discussion.
ps: Don't pop a blood vessel. 8)
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Wow, ...we've made the leap from a fourth grade English book to violence, child abandonment, and interracial rape?
Wow! If you'll excuse me... I have a few phone calls to make. Enjoy the rest of the discussion.
ps: Don't pop a blood vessel. 8)
What I'm saying here is that it's easy to raise children with a stigma if one desires to. And another point, don't go pointing fingers at other people when you have a whole mess of issues yourself.
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Excuse me? Me... racist? You gotta be off your rocker!!!
I've been fighting racism my whole life... from Blacks & Whites!
you are for Affirmative Action...
Do you not understand that is racism?
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you are for Affirmative Action...
Do you not understand that is racism?
What we refer to as "Liberals" this side of our border, would be considered centrist "Libertarians" in the USA.
It's been made clear to me that what is referred to as "Affirmative Action" differs quite differently in it's application between our two countries.
It sometimes help when people are singing off the same sheet of music.
I've made the assumption that education about white skin priviledge will be done in the same sensitive & educational manner in which it is accomplished in Canada, however, your recent fiasco into Universal Health Care clearly demonstrates that just because it shares the same name, doesn't make it the same animal.
We have yet to see how "The Jacket" will be rolled out, or what is even in the book, so speculation is pointless, and anyone whipping themselves into a frenzy over a book which they know nothing about, reveals themselves to be an easily manipulated reactionary lacking the capacity for critical thought.
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Archer absolutely owing here ;D
And yea I've come to realise now that I'm older just how indoctrinated the whole school system is...instead of reading books about actual history and facts we mostly read worthless fiction crap by mostly leftist ideologue types for no reason other than to push the leftist social/political agenda. Also we spent entire semesters learning about the holocaust and reading books by jews when our school and city is only like 1% jewish, while learning about american history or anything else was mostly skipped over. Pure propaganda/agenda-based 'education'.
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Archer absolutely owing here ;D
And yea I've come to realise now that I'm older just how indoctrinated the whole school system is...instead of reading books about actual history and facts we mostly read worthless fiction crap by mostly leftist ideologue types for no reason other than to push the leftist social/political agenda. Also we spent entire semesters learning about the holocaust and reading books by jews when our school and city is only like 1% jewish, while learning about american history or anything else was mostly skipped over. Pure propaganda/agenda-based 'education'.
The main reason for teaching a concept like white privilege is to instill in innocent children a sense of deep and profound guilt. This guilt can be manipulated in order to force compliance and dissuade criticism. It's pure political indoctrination. I imagine the rationale is, if it proves to difficult to bring up a poor performing segment of the population, it might be easier to bring down the other more successful group.
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The main reason for teaching a concept like white privilege is to instill in innocent children a sense of deep and profound guilt. This guilt can be manipulated in order to force compliance and dissuade criticism. It's pure political indoctrination. I imagine the rationale is, if it proves to difficult to bring up a poor performing segment of the population, it might be easier to bring down the other more successful group.
Exactly, and it has worked very well. Most of my fellow white yuppie classmates from back then are as politically correct as can be today, blaming every problem in society somehow on whites (their own race) and their only reasoning is 'because slavery' and other bs, and they care more about 'gay marriage' than any of the actually gay people I've known
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They also post propaganda all over the walls of public schools to indoctrinate impressionable kids into abandoning their successful, productive culture in favor of various third world cultures.
Very sickening, I would never send a kid to public school.
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They also post propaganda all over the walls of public schools to indoctrinate impressionable kids into abandoning their successful, productive culture in favor of various third world cultures.
Very sickening, I would never send a kid to public school.
Yeah, I remember a story after 9/11 about an elementary school teacher who forced her students to dress and "live" like Muslims during her class for a week or something. In order to remove the negative stigma that the evil right wingers have attached to Muslims ie terrorists. WTF?!! Try making black kids dress like white christians and see what the response would be from the media? Roger is exactly right, it is all indoctrination to keep people under the thumbs of the ruling class.
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OK, it's pretty clear that you don't understand what white priviledge is.
It is neither an excuse for failure, nor a reason for success, and it certainly is considerably more than just a mere talking point. It is the state of affairs within North America. You can choose to deny it, or dismiss it all you want, it will still be there.
What is white privilege then?
As a inter-racial person who looks white, I don't see it either... Nor did my mother... Who isn't white. She studied hard and became an engineer... What the hell does white privilege have to do with any of it?
These things are plain and simple full of shit.