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Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege
« on: November 02, 2013, 06:07:10 PM »
Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege, racism due to Common Core

October 18, 2013 by Michael Dorstewitz

Your fourth-grader may be getting a little instruction in racism and white privilege along with his lessons in reading and writing.

A series of teaching guides, published recently by Zaner- Bloser Inc. and designed to be compliant with Common Core national standards in math and English, appear to do exactly that, according to EAG News.

The suggested fourth-grade lesson plan dedicates two weeks to the book, “The Jacket,” and mixes a little literature with a heavy dose of “white privilege,” according to EAG, which reported:

    The story centers around a young white boy named Phil who wrongly accuses an African-American student of stealing his brother’s jacket.

    It’s a fun little book about racism and white privilege – a left-wing concept that teaches African Americans the values of American society are designed to benefit white people.

Maybe it’s time we went back to the “Dick and Jane” series, when kids actually learned how to read and comprehend, free of ideology.

Watch the video from EAG News.


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Re: Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 07:20:59 PM »
LOL racism against whites continues

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Re: Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 07:21:58 PM »
lets not talk about black privilege like affirmative action and quotas though...thats racist!!!!

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 08:39:01 PM »
Disgusting.  There is no excuse for this type of indoctrination.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 08:54:37 PM »
Teaching racism in 4th grade. Genius.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 10:19:52 PM »
I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.

I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.

I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots.  ::)
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 10:21:45 PM »
Teaching racism in 4th grade. Genius.

...as opposed to the racism they're complicitly taught coming right out of the birth canal. HA!
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 10:49:20 PM »
I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.

I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.

I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots.  ::)

This isn't addressing inequality, it's teaching victimization and scapegoating.   It's a device used to alienate, stigmatize and marginalize a segment of the population. You're training children to view a group as an abuser ultimately creating hostility.  You're also training kids to view themselves as abusers and innately evil, potentially causing great damage to their their mental health and self esteem.   But you're a racist, so I guess you get off on that.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 10:53:10 PM »
...as opposed to the racism they're complicitly taught coming right out of the birth canal. HA!


Total myth brought to you by the victim industry.  Only a small number of people are complicity taught to be racist from a young age.  You're buying into the Sharpton and Jackson mythology of victimization.  The kind of racist curriculum being taught here encourages racial conflict. They are teaching one group to be suspicious of the other, breeding animosity and hostility,  while instilling self loathing and guilt in children for actions of the past and situations beyond their control.  Use some common sense, this isn't ethical and it's harmful.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 05:35:40 AM »
I don't see it as teaching racism, ...I see it as helping kids get a grip on the world within which they live.

I like the idea that they start at such a young age, as opposed to when in adult hood.
It's like school integration. It was rolled out as well as the Obamacare website.
They should have taken Medgar Evers' advice and started it in kindergarten, rather than all throughout.

I think the very fact that so many of you perceive attempts to address inequity in society as a left wing agenda, implies the right wing has no interest in correcting or addressing these issues, ...and then you wonder why so many conclude the right wing is full of racist bigots.  ::)
what inequality in society is due to racism?

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 08:41:04 AM »
This isn't addressing inequality, it's teaching victimization and scapegoating.   It's a device used to alienate, stigmatize and marginalize a segment of the population. You're training children to view a group as an abuser ultimately creating hostility.  You're also training kids to view themselves as abusers and innately evil, potentially causing great damage to their their mental health and self esteem.   But you're a racist, so I guess you get off on that.

It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol



Total myth brought to you by the victim industry.  Only a small number of people are complicity taught to be racist from a young age.  You're buying into the Sharpton and Jackson mythology of victimization.  The kind of racist curriculum being taught here encourages racial conflict. They are teaching one group to be suspicious of the other, breeding animosity and hostility,  while instilling self loathing and guilt in children for actions of the past and situations beyond their control.  Use some common sense, this isn't ethical and it's harmful.

I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.

I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.

Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered  stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2013, 08:49:16 AM »
what inequality in society is due to racism?

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2013, 09:12:52 AM »
It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol


I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.

I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.

Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered  stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.

White privilege is a talking point, nothing more. It's simple scapegoating, similar in message and tone to the rampant anti-semitism seen in Europe. If one doesn't succeed it must be as a result of white privledge. Whites are conspiring against minorities. It's all nonsense.

Now the argument could be made that their is wealth privilege.  The mistake I see is tying privilege exclusively to whiteness.  

One, it's not exactly true for all whites..whatever that generic term white means.

Two, it breeds contempt, resentment and division.  An entire group of people are being intentionally stigmatized unfairly.  It's creating a false perception that all whites are successful because of privledge and not ability.

And third, it's not the domain of the educational system to be indoctrinating children with a concept that is purely political and ideological in nature.

Asians and those of Jewish ethnicity have on average higher IQs and greater income levels than non-Jewish whites.  So you recommend teaching Jewish and Asian privilege?  Not to mention the trillions of dollars spend o programs for minorities paid for almost exclusively by white tax payers.  Hiring rules for minorities and so on.  Modifying the rules for minorities in law enforcement, military, college entrance and other civil service jobs are all examples of black privilege.
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Re: Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2013, 11:00:16 AM »
It's stupid assinine comments like this that tempt me to be flippant.
You kind of remind me of the Dad in the story they were speaking about.
"Don't tell your Dad anything about this. Why? It will upset him. Why? It just will. lol


I can see where many fearful & suspicious of this may make that assumption, however, the bottom line really is this, ...neither one of us know exactly what is in the story, how it plays out, and how these lessons are taught, ...so until we do, there really isn't much point in speculation and assumption.

I've obviously made the assumption that it will be taught with the care & sensitivity that such a subject requires. You've made the assumption it will damage self esteem and create problems all around.
The fact is... neither one of us really knows how this is going to play out.

Do I think it's a GOOD thing for white kids to learn about and understand what white skin priviledge is?
Absofvckinglutely!!! How such lessons are taught... well, that there's the $64,000 question isn't it?
I wouldn't advocate the method used in the documentary "Blue Eyes" ...certainly not for young children, but I believe there is a way to educate without harming their self esteem. As for the breeding animosity & hostility? PULEAZE!!! I would think the arrogant obliviousness to white skin priviledge does more to breed hostility than simply acknowledging it's existence. Sheesh! It's like Gwyneth Paltrow... no one really gave a poop about the fact that she came from Hollywood Royalty which gave her access. The hostile backlash she encountered  stemmed from the fact that she couldn't see that she had a lucky break right from the start. Her 50 metre dash started a couple of metres from the finish line.
You are racist though. Extremely racist. And teaching children that theyre success is somehow in part to their skin color is extremely fucking racist. Maybe when american blacks are meeting the same qualifications as all the other races and still being held down, then you can complain about privilege. Right now they're woefully sub par in almost all education and standardized testing compared to every other race.

how about instead of blaming others for failure, they step up and actually fucking compete.

im so sick of hearing the black community blame everyone for their failures as a race and culture. They need to quit bitching, get off their fucking ass, and take responsibility for themselves. There is no reason in modern America for them to fail besides their own ignorance and laziness.

rant over.

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Re: Fourth graders get lesson in white privilege
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2013, 11:01:20 AM »
You are racist though
she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2013, 11:02:28 AM »
LOL racism against whites continues

But wait, it is impossible according to the libtards to be racist against whites.  It just does not happen because all minorities are perfect, compassionate, celestial beings who are only in their predicament becasue of the evil white male.   ::)

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 11:03:50 AM »
But wait, it is impossible according to the libtards to be racist against whites.  It just does not happen because all minorities are perfect, compassionate, celestial beings who are only in their predicament becasue of the evil white male.   ::)
tell me about it as a half japanese individual, whites are to blame for me not being more successful than I am. I mean if it werent for them I would be making 7 figures and fuking supermodels

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 11:10:57 AM »
she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites
I edited inton epic rant on the failure of the black community to take responsibility for anything.

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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 11:36:04 AM »
she subscribes to the idea that blacks cannot be racist, especially against whites

I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large.  As you have white privilege you also have black criminality. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 11:38:30 AM »
I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large.  As you have white privilege you also have black criminality. 
hahah she would say that black criminality is to be blamed on white privilege and then tell us how it doesnt create hostility and animosity

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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 11:39:21 AM »
I wonder if she would feel the same way about teaching young black children about the historically high levels of black violence and it's effects on the black community and society at large.  As you have white privilege you also have black criminality. 
not to mention the woefully sad performance with regards to education and standardized testing.


oh wait, I forgot, its because education and standardized testing are racist.

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 11:43:53 AM »
hahah she would say that black criminality is to be blamed on white privilege and then tell us how it doesnt create hostility and animosity

Oh course she would.  She, like a sizable number of individuals within the black community need a bogey man onto which to lay blame.   The term white privilege has become in vogue after the election of Obama.  Calling someone racist is still a very useful tool to manipulate whites through guilt but it's lost some of power in recent years.
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2013, 11:46:10 AM »
not to mention the woefully sad performance with regards to education and standardized testing.


oh wait, I forgot, its because education and standardized testing are racist.

Standardized tests are racists yet Asian immigrants right off the boat who possess limited English skills are scoring higher than native born citizens. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 06:30:33 AM »
White privilege is a talking point, nothing more. It's simple scapegoating, similar in message and tone to the rampant anti-semitism seen in Europe. If one doesn't succeed it must be as a result of white privledge. Whites are conspiring against minorities. It's all nonsense.

Now the argument could be made that their is wealth privilege.  The mistake I see is tying privilege exclusively to whiteness.  

One, it's not exactly true for all whites..whatever that generic term white means.

Two, it breeds contempt, resentment and division.  An entire group of people are being intentionally stigmatized unfairly.  It's creating a false perception that all whites are successful because of privledge and not ability.

And third, it's not the domain of the educational system to be indoctrinating children with a concept that is purely political and ideological in nature.

Asians and those of Jewish ethnicity have on average higher IQs and greater income levels than non-Jewish whites.  So you recommend teaching Jewish and Asian privilege?  Not to mention the trillions of dollars spend o programs for minorities paid for almost exclusively by white tax payers.  Hiring rules for minorities and so on.  Modifying the rules for minorities in law enforcement, military, college entrance and other civil service jobs are all examples of black privilege.

OK, it's pretty clear that you don't understand what white priviledge is.

It is neither an excuse for failure, nor a reason for success, and it certainly is considerably more than just a mere talking point. It is the state of affairs within North America. You can choose to deny it, or dismiss it all you want, it will still be there.
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2013, 06:37:06 AM »
OK, it's pretty clear that you don't understand what white priviledge is.

It is neither an excuse for failure, nor a reason for success, and it certainly is considerably more than just a mere talking point. It is the state of affairs within North America. You can choose to deny it, or dismiss it all you want, it will still be there.


Its a political tool used by the left to marginalize the opposition and control the dialogue.   To teach innocent children guilt and self loathing is abusive and immoral.    I would be willing to bet you all the tea in china that I experience more racism and poverty than you have.  And its infuriating when self righteous people like yourself feel like they can label me and generalize my experience simply because I happen to be white.
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