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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on November 03, 2013, 03:08:00 AM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/last-president-obama-reportedly-told-024401509.html
Nobel peace prize winner
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We have a sadistic murderer in the WH
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/last-president-obama-reportedly-told-024401509.html
Nobel peace prize winner
He's killing terrorists....so what
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He has been killing you every moment of the day 24/7 since 2008.
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He's killing terrorists....so what
Idiot. Do you even read anything. More civilians have been killed thsn terrorists in these drone strikes
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Idiot. Do you even read anything. More civilians have been killed thsn terrorists in these drone strikes
Libs only consider that a bad thing when Bush was doing it.
I'm surprised Obama is even aware of it. He doesn't seem to be aware of just about anything going on his administration.
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He's killing terrorists....so what
How about the thousands of innocent civilians killed? By the way, who makes the determination and based on what, to summarily label someone as a "terrorist" to kill them without any evidence or due process? Land of the free, home of the assassin.
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Libs only consider that a bad thing when Bush was doing it.
I'm surprised Obama is even aware of it. He doesn't seem to be aware of just about anything going on his administration.
TRUTH
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Idiot. Do you even read anything. More civilians have been killed thsn terrorists in these drone strikes
I'm confused. You'd celebrate loudly if a nuke went off on US soil... ignoring the loss of american life because, well, the people you dislike in DC would be gone. Your quote:
If a nuke went off in DC and took out all of these criminals and traitors, I would celebrate loudly.
But you're throwing a fit because (far fewer) foreigner "bystanders" are killed while we use strikes to kill terr'ists?
So you care about minimal loss of foreign lives, but you'd celebrate loudly if millions of americans died? Damn, that's cold, man.
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I'm confused. You'd celebrate loudly if a nuke went off on US soil... ignoring the loss of american life because, well, the people you dislike in DC would be gone. Your quote:
But you're throwing a fit because (far fewer) foreigner "bystanders" are killed while we use strikes to kill terr'ists?
So you care about minimal loss of foreign lives, but you'd celebrate loudly if millions of americans died? Damn, that's cold, man.
The inn ocent people dead in obama drone strikes mever did shit to me. Obama and the other communists you have defended for years are directly collapsing this country. IntentionLly too. Big differmce.
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The inn ocent people dead in obama drone strikes mever did shit to me. Obama and the other communists you have defended for years are directly collapsing this country. IntentionLly too. Big differmce.
And the innocent people living around DC would have done nothing to you. When nukes go off, they dont' target the exact people you hate. They kill millions. I'm sure at least one non-Obama-voter, child, etc would perish in the radiation fallout.
Do you still feel this way, or have you changed positions over the year? Would you no longer laugh if a nuke went off on american soil, 33/soul crusher?
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Sure.
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See, 33, I thought you were the type that was all about "kill those you hate, and any incidental loss of life is okay".
I was literally shocked to see you yelling about people in Iraq or Pakistan getting killed as we take out bad guys. When these terr'ists hide out among civilians, it's terrible, but it happens.
Were you also angered by the strikes that took place under previous presidents? Would you rather US soldiers be on the ground getting hit with RPGs, or a few innocents get killed because they're hanging with a murdering terrist? Come to think of it, why don't these people hanging out with the terr'ists take a knife to his throat when he goes to sleep? Why not turn them in? How many "innocents" are part of the support team for them, we just haven't ID'd them? if one terr'ist is hiding out among 30 "innocents" and 5 or 10 of these innocents happen to carry guns, and they KNOW the terr'ist has drones searching for him... why not cap him, collect a reward? Why keep on enabling him?
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By all accounts the drone strikes hae only created more militants and hatred of the us.
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Sure.
sure, you've changed positions? Cause I'd admire that, dude. I dont think anyone should celebrate if a nuke happens here. I still think maybe you were just kidding about that quote, but online, it's hard to tell sarcasm.
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By all accounts the drone strikes hae only created more militants and hatred of the us.
Personally, I'm not all that concerned with "what they think of us". It's been 12 years of war. Almost an entire generation by the fast breeding patterns in many regions over there... they don't exactly wait til they're 30 like americans seem to be doing this days.
I could never just say "we gotta let so-and-so go because people are going to get mad if we drone strike him", then order 100 US troops into the area for a massive gunfight with a bunch of suicidal zealots who have been begging for such a battle to make their stand. Could you?
Id' be MUCH more concerned with telling some mother that her child and 5 like him was killed in gun battle with a bad guy we could have iced from Tampa with the push of a button. Yes, some people who had been "nearby" him for a month were killed, but really, without them feeding, hiding, communicating for him - is he even effective as a terrorist?
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Obama is like Papa Doc
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Obama needs to up his game and start killing more terrorists instead of providing them with funding and weapons.
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Personally, I'm not all that concerned with "what they think of us". It's been 12 years of war. Almost an entire generation by the fast breeding patterns in many regions over there... they don't exactly wait til they're 30 like americans seem to be doing this days.
I could never just say "we gotta let so-and-so go because people are going to get mad if we drone strike him", then order 100 US troops into the area for a massive gunfight with a bunch of suicidal zealots who have been begging for such a battle to make their stand. Could you?
Id' be MUCH more concerned with telling some mother that her child and 5 like him was killed in gun battle with a bad guy we could have iced from Tampa with the push of a button. Yes, some people who had been "nearby" him for a month were killed, but really, without them feeding, hiding, communicating for him - is he even effective as a terrorist?
You're so full of shit.
When Bush was in, you were arguing the drone strikes were bad because they caused more terrorism.
And you were endlessly crying about Gitmo.
Don't see you starting shit about Gitmo these days since your Messiah is in office.
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You're so full of shit.
When Bush was in, you were arguing the drone strikes were bad because they caused more terrorism.
And you were endlessly crying about Gitmo.
Don't see you starting shit about Gitmo these days since your Messiah is in office.
yup he was on here arguing we were creating more terrorist, but I guess his view has "evovled"
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after you've been in a region for a generation, it's part of the culture now.
And they're not IDEAL, but I'll choose them over US troops getting shot at, any day of the week. Always preferable is a single sniper shot from a quarter mile.
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after you've been in a region for a generation, it's part of the culture now.
And they're not IDEAL, but I'll choose them over US troops getting shot at, any day of the week. Always preferable is a single sniper shot from a quarter mile.
so you were against them under bush but are now for them?
even though the reason you were against them is still there?
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i'm against them if the sniper option is available.
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Doesn't matter what Hussein Obummer says, libfags will defend him to the death not matter what. He could go live on tv and cut a baby's head off and libtards would do one of two things: praise him for his courage or blame George Bush.
The man can do no wrong in libtwinks eyes. He is perfection in every way and anyone who questions him is a racist.
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lol @ thinking any of you are going to change anything
why bother following the "news" ::) ::)
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Obama is a pussy
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Obama is a pussy
I was thinking coward, but pussy works too.
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Funny how Obama wants to act like a tough guy when its everyone else doing all the dirty work. This sycho is no different than any other communist third world dictator
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New book: Obama told aides that drones make him 'really good at killing people'
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By Jay Busbee 5 hours ago
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President Obama in a 2012 photo in the Oval Office.
President Barack Obama is criticized every day for the problems and difficulties associated with the Affordable Care Act. But in the long term, it's likely history will scrutinize the CIA’s use of drone strikes during his administration with a far more critical eye.
A quote from a new book on the 2012 presidential campaign, “Double Down: Game Change 2012,” will surely stoke that interest. As first reported in a book review by the Washington Post’s Peter Hamby, Obama told aides in connection with the CIA's drone program that he is “really good at killing people.”
It’s the kind of quote likely to make Obama supporters cringe or scramble for justifying explanations, perhaps by rationalizing the quote as either false or out of context, or critiquing the information-gathering methods of authors Mark Halperin and John Heilemann. The writers spent two years interviewing dozens of people connected with both the Obama and Romney campaigns.
Whether uttered in jest or in resignation, the Obama quote will only add to the concerns of those wondering whether the president has embraced the Godlike, life-and-death power of the Oval Office. After campaigning against the intense interrogation procedures pursued under President George W. Bush, Obama has vastly expanded the drone program. Despite its intense unpopularity overseas, in part because of civilian casualties and in part because of its unclear, secretive mandates, the Pakistan drone program continues as it has since 2004.
According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, the CIA has conducted 378 strikes in the program’s 10-year history. Of those, 326 are classified as “Obama strikes.” The total number of people killed by drones is estimated at 2,528 to 3,648. Civilian casualties are estimated at 416 to 948, with 168 to 200 of those being children. As many as another 1,545 are estimated to have been injured in those strikes.
"We conduct those strikes because they are necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats — to stop plots, prevent future attacks and, again, save American lives,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in February. “These strikes are legal, they are ethical, and they are wise." And, thanks to this book, the motivations of the man who orders them will remain under scrutiny.
“Double Down” is a sequel of sorts to “Game Change: Obama and the Clintons, McCain and Palin, and the Race of a Lifetime,” a best-selling book made into an HBO movie. "Double Down" tracks the 2012 campaign through the voices of campaign strategists and other insiders for both President Obama and Mitt Romney, as well as the half-dozen other ancillary campaigns on the Republican side.
What emerges is a look at two men and two campaigns with singular visions and yet singular weaknesses. Here, via the Post’s Hamby, is a summary of “Double Down”’s through-line:
The book’s loose argument is that both Obama and Romney placed their bets about the race early on and “doubled down” throughout the contest. It’s an apt take on Obama World. The “Obamans,” as the authors call them, set out to annihilate Romney almost two years before the election and executed their plan with brutal efficiency. There were hiccups along the way, specifically Obama’s dreary debate-prep sessions and his cringe-worthy performance in Denver, but his deputies in Chicago rarely deviated from their search-and-destroy mission. Romney’s campaign, though, with its bad habit of reacting to news cycles with snap decisions, always felt more ad hoc, with tactics trumping strategy.
Per Hamby, Obama comes off as “brilliant but peevish, allergic to the nitty-gritty of politics,” while Romney “is a decent man but hopelessly ham-fisted on the stump and oblivious to why voters can’t seem to appreciate his private-equity résumé.”
The drone quote will garner notice, but the book actually saves much of its harshest criticism for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is apparently already making plans for a 2016 presidential bid. The book makes use of the research performed by the Romney campaign on Christie; the vetting is termed “disturbing,” with “garish controversies.” A Justice Department investigation into Christie’s spending, a defamation lawsuit, questions about lobbying and contract awards, Christie’s physical health – these were all fair game for Romney’s investigators and in turn for the authors of “Double Down.” Christie’s people could be busy for months trying to mitigate the damage this book will do to his reputation.
The Obama administration has brushed off the book's claims about the back-room dealings of the 2012 campaign, critiquing the sources as much as the content. “The president is always frustrated about leaks,” White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer said on ABC’s “This Week.” “I haven’t talked to him about this book. I haven’t read it. He hasn’t read it. But he hates leaks.”
But that’s inside-the-Beltway politicking, the kind of give-and-take where reputations, not lives, are the casualties. The debate over drone use has far more dramatic reach and effect. Lost in the day-to-day squabbling over politics is the fact that, for instance, the Justice Department has a disturbingly vague protocol for sending drones to kill U.S. citizens. “Double Down” may open the door to issues far more significant than who likes whom in Washington, issues that speak to the very heart of what it means to stand for American principles. This is a story that’s not going away anytime soon.
Contact Jay Busbee at jay.busbee@yahoo.com or on Twitter at @jaybusbee.
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lol @ thinking any of you are going to change anything
why bother following the "news" ::) ::)
Go back to your squat rack curls retard.
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If Bush ever said this...whatever! Obama likes the trappings of the presidency but actually being responsible...oh hell no. He's a fucking joke.
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If Bush ever said this...whatever! Obama likes the trappings of the presidency but actually being responsible...oh hell no. He's a fucking joke.
Obama acts like he is rapelling down the fast rope and assaulting the enemy compound.
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If Bush ever said this...whatever! Obama likes the trappings of the presidency but actually being responsible...oh hell no. He's a fucking joke.
try to keep in mind that there is no proof that Obama said this
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try to keep in mind that there is no proof that Obama said this
LOL - keep spinning like a fucking top for your failed terrorist messiah.
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Libs only consider that a bad thing when Bush was doing it.
I'm surprised Obama is even aware of it. He doesn't seem to be aware of just about anything going on his administration.
LOL ;D
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Killing?
Bush was called a war criminal for it.
What should we call Obama for doing the same thing? According to libtards, he is deserving of the Noble Peace Price.
Double standard much?
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Obama says he’s practically a killing machine
Allen West ^ | 11/4/13 | Allen West
Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:27:33 AM by Impala64ssa
According to a story by Michael Kelly of the Business Insider, it seems President Obama regards himself as one tough hombre. Reminds me of another liberal progressive president involved in a low- to mid-intensity war — Lyndon B. Johnson.
Of course you might think it’s something the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner wouldn’t want to brag about. But according to the new book Double Down in which journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann chronicle the 2012 presidential election, Obama told his aides he’s “really good at killing people” while discussing drone strikes. Why, he’s simply the definition of bravery and courage. Just as President Johnson personally approved bombing strikes during the Vietnam War, President Obama is also having fun playing “Call of Duty.”
According to the Business Insider:
Obama oversaw the 2009 surge in Afghanistan, 145 Predator drone strikes in NATO’s 2011 Libya operations, the May 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, and drone strikes that killed the Pakistani Taliban leader and a senior member of the Somali-based militant group al-Shabab this week.
His administration also expanded the drone war: There have been 326 drone strikes in Pakistan, 93 in Yemen, and several in Somalia under Obama — upwards of 4,500 people overall killed — compared to a total of 52 strikes under George Bush.
So now we have it. Not only does President Obama believe he knows what’s best for your healthcare plans, he also doesn’t need those 197 senior military officers he just axed. Why, he can kill people directly from the White House! He’s a one-man wrecking machine — and we’re not even talking about the economy.
The incredible irony here is that a man who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in his first year in office is likely to “go down in history as the president who legitimized and systemized a process by which the United States asserts the right to conduct assassination operations around the world,” according to investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill.
Folks, you just cannot make this stuff up!
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240 went from Infowars style CT'er to full-on libtard government apologist and supporter. What a transformation...
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/last-president-obama-reportedly-told-024401509.html
Nobel peace prize winner
Well at least he does something right. I wonder what the Nobel Peace Prize voters think about this?
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He's killing terrorists....so what
LOL.
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Killing?
Bush was called a war criminal for it.
What should we call Obama for doing the same thing? According to libtards, he is deserving of the Noble Peace Price.
Double standard much?
and that's just it.
it's funny. but it is disturbing how pragmatic all of the liberals have been about our military activities since 2008. they were all preaching peace and accusing George Bush of war crimes and now they just simply ignore it. no one cares now.
gay rights and abortion rights are very powerful motivators. these issues are making voters on both sides completely ignore what is going on right beneath their nose and they simply do not care to hear it. American voters completely change the way they look at issues that were, at a time, very important to them. but these issues have now been set aside because the television set is telling them what should and should not be important to them.
its downright fucking scary.
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and that's just it.
it's funny. but it is disturbing how pragmatic all of the liberals have been about our military activities since 2008. they were all preaching peace and accusing George Bush of war crimes and now they just simply ignore it. no one cares now.
gay rights and abortion rights are very powerful motivators. these issues are making voters on both sides completely ignore what is going on right beneath their nose and they simply do not care to hear it. American voters completely change the way they look at issues that were, at a time, very important to them. but these issues have now been set aside because the television set is telling them what should and should not be important to them.
its downright fucking scary.
The politicians are the ones doing it.
They are trying to divide people and it's working.
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The politicians are the ones doing it.
They are trying to divide people and it's working.
exactly. the TV is telling the people what issues should be important to them.
before 2008 world peace and killing of innocent civilians in the middle east were important issues to liberals. now they could give two fucks.
Stabilizing the middle east at all costs was an important issue to the conservatives. Now they could give two fucks.
Remember when all any liberal could talk about was their carbon footprint? what the hell happened to that? I'll tell you. Obama is doing no more or less than GWB on that front so now no one gives two fucks.
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exactly. the TV is telling the people what issues should be important to them.
before 2008 world peace and killing of innocent civilians in the middle east were important issues to liberals. now they could give two fucks.
Stabilizing the middle east at all costs was an important issue to the conservatives. Now they could give two fucks.
Remember when all any liberal could talk about was their carbon footprint? what the hell happened to that? I'll tell you. Obama is doing no more or less than GWB on that front so now no one gives two fucks.
Correct... The crazy part is how people actually bitch because they think that one side cares more than the other...
The shills make me laugh uncontrollably.
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Go back to your squat rack curls retard.
hahaha insults getbig style, I like it!!!!
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I was thinking coward, but pussy works too.
Don't you ever insult something as amazing as pussy by comparing it to a Kenyan POS.
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hahaha insults getbig style, I like it!!!!
this would only be considered an insult on BB.com where people think squats are a magical exercise that will "turn them into real men" when they "pay their dues" and of course "curls are for pussies"
and they wonder why they look like shit
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U really are allergic to hard work in the gym aren't you....I bet u were the fingerless gauntlets of power so as not to build calluses as well. U need to confront your squat fear...get under the bar and give it a shot...maybe ur balls will drop.
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U really are allergic to hard work in the gym aren't you....I bet u were the fingerless gauntlets of power so as not to build calluses as well. U need to confront your squat fear...get under the bar and give it a shot...maybe ur balls will drop.
fuck that shit who needs them ::)
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U really are allergic to hard work in the gym aren't you....I bet u were the fingerless gauntlets of power so as not to build calluses as well. U need to confront your squat fear...get under the bar and give it a shot...maybe ur balls will drop.
The Obama Training Principles = You gain muscle from the hard training and dieting of others.
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fuck that shit who needs them ::)
Yeah...who's gimmick are u?