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Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?
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It has its uses, but it won't do shit in a ECA stack.
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It won't burn fat or amp you up like ephedrine. I've heard people take it before a workout to breath deeper/easier, but little usefulness beyond that
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Steroids will kill you.
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pseudo is good in athletic contests but useless otherwise... definitely improves respiration
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It won't burn fat or amp you up like ephedrine. I've heard people take it before a workout to breath deeper/easier, but little usefulness beyond that
Ephedrine burns fat, huh? 1990's urban legends die hard. Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.
If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.
E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it. I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...
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Ephedrine burns fat, huh? 1990's urban legends die hard. Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.
If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.
E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it. I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...
totally agree... stimulants do not burn anything... they just make dieting/cardio easier
if you wanna get lean, stop fucking eating and get on a treadmill
end of rant
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Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?
no no no, complete fake, waste of time, junk junk junk, not even remotely close to ephedrine
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Ephedrine burns fat, huh? 1990's urban legends die hard. Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.
If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.
E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it. I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...
this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.
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this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.
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OTH laying it down. I'm not saying ephedrine is a substitute for diet & exercise, but saying it doesn't accelerate fat loss isnt correct either
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Getting "amped" to walk on a treadmill at 2.5 mph oh brother.
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Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?
pseudo alone for me = nothing.
pseudo+cafeine = kick ass.
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this one sucks really bad... get pure ephedrine or even ephedra... i think the pure stuff is easier to get these days
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Ephedrine burns fat, huh? 1990's urban legends die hard. Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.
If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.
E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it. I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...
you failed every science course you took.. or you're trolling .. I cant tell.
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will pass it off as trolling, whilest nervously laughing and hoping no one realises...
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this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.
Prime example of "bro science" here perpetuated by 90's bodybuilding mags.
You're most likely taking a poly-pharmacy of different drugs. You have no way of telling what drug is doing what.
E raises body temperature?... that is totally bogus. I've taken my temperature after taking it... no difference.
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you failed every science course you took.. or you're trolling .. I cant tell.
Oh yeah... I been trolling this place since 2004
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Prime example of "bro science" here perpetuated by 90's bodybuilding mags.
You're most likely taking a poly-pharmacy of different drugs. You have no way of telling what drug is doing what.
E raises body temperature?... that is totally bogus. I've taken my temperature after taking it... no difference.
lmao lolollool, not temperature, the type you measure with a thermometer under your tongue Einstein, lmao you are fucken hilarious, we are talking what makes your blood warm, your thermo heat, you know like when you get a pump you feel warm, hence you burn more calories, well same thing with ephedrine, you ding dong, lol
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pseudo alone for me = nothing.
pseudo+cafeine = kick ass.
well what kicks ass is probably only the caffeine lol...
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It works well if you are a boxer even before a training session it will help you breath way better just watch your heart rate and try to not take more then a 30mg dose prior to training or fighting.
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this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.
this
btw, so Mezo long time no see 8)
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It's not that complicated just eat some drop some speed.
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this
btw, so Mezo long time no see 8)
wow long time no see, how s life at present? Still in quebec?
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It's not that complicated just eat some drop some speed.
Wake looked like a pseudo-football team today.
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Wake looked like a pseudo-football team today.
They need to stay with golf.
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They need to stay with golf.
Yes!
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well what kicks ass is probably only the caffeine lol...
indeed^^^
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Ephedrine burns fat, huh? 1990's urban legends die hard. Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.
If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.
E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it. I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...
uhm,yes it does burn fat very by its own.
by raising body temperature directly, this increases metabolsim rate by some 5%, thats very nice.
and indirectly by killing off hunger(helps proper diet) and give more energy(better trainings).
it does many things at once.
not sure about 5lbs in a month, bc it helps in more than one way, but if we go by 5% increase in metablism alone, thats roughly 2lbs of fat a month burned just by the thermogenic effect alone.
with these 2lbs fat,some water will be shed out.
now you add the apetite supressant effect to it, and boom, quite a difference.
ofc many morons think efedrine will do all by itself and just eat normaly, well those will be disapointed.or the ones who just stil overeat.thats not gonna work.
pseudeefedrine though doesnt do shit for neither energy nor fatloss.
not even apetite supressing.
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Meth heads know best.
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uhm,yes it does burn fat very by its own.
by raising body temperature directly, this increases metabolsim rate by some 5%, thats very nice.
and indirectly by killing off hunger(helps proper diet) and give more energy(better trainings).
it does many things at once.
not sure about 5lbs in a month, bc it helps in more than one way, but if we go by 5% increase in metablism alone, thats roughly 2lbs of fat a month burned just by the thermogenic effect alone.
with these 2lbs fat,some water will be shed out.
now you add the apetite supressant effect to it, and boom, quite a difference.
ofc many morons think efedrine will do all by itself and just eat normaly, well those will be disapointed.or the ones who just stil overeat.thats not gonna work.
pseudeefedrine though doesnt do shit for neither energy nor fatloss.
not even apetite supressing.
excellent post, as usually by gal in relation to burning fat ;)
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uhm,yes it does burn fat very by its own.
by raising body temperature directly, this increases metabolsim rate by some 5%, thats very nice.
and indirectly by killing off hunger(helps proper diet) and give more energy(better trainings).
it does many things at once.
not sure about 5lbs in a month, bc it helps in more than one way, but if we go by 5% increase in metablism alone, thats roughly 2lbs of fat a month burned just by the thermogenic effect alone.
with these 2lbs fat,some water will be shed out.
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Based on what daily caloric intake for 2lbs a month? Because even with 3000 calories a day 5% is only 150cals daily, 1050 weekly, 4200 monthly. That's not 2lbs. That's barely over 1 lb.
The best thing about ephedrine is its appetite suppressant qualities and energy it gives you in the gym and while doing cardio. That's where most of its magic is when it comes to fat loss.
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Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?
interesting. are you transitioning genders?
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2lbs a month. Haha Maybe if he eats a couple of go4it size breakfasts every day while 'dieting'. Lol
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i miss the old ripped fuel from twin labs... i used to use it to pull all nighters for exams in college
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Based on what daily caloric intake for 2lbs a month? Because even with 3000 calories a day 5% is only 150cals daily, 1050 weekly, 4200 monthly. That's not 2lbs. That's barely over 1 lb.
The best thing about ephedrine is its appetite suppressant qualities and energy it gives you in the gym and while doing cardio. That's where most of its magic is when it comes to fat loss.
Quoted for gals exposure...again.
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Based on what daily caloric intake for 2lbs a month? Because even with 3000 calories a day 5% is only 150cals daily, 1050 weekly, 4200 monthly. That's not 2lbs. That's barely over 1 lb.
The best thing about ephedrine is its appetite suppressant qualities and energy it gives you in the gym and while doing cardio. That's where most of its magic is when it comes to fat loss.
you are splitting hairs, semantics, really? a little childish no?
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you are splitting hairs, semantics, really? a little childish no?
Nope. There's a significant difference percentage wise between what he said and reality. Im just exposing him. Fraudsters like gal like to throw out bullshit numbers like that. Why? Because they aren't scientific minded to think they will have to back up every number they say...instead they rely on parrotry of accomplished people. But the numbers are harder to remember and that's when they get exposed.
On numerous occasions I've seen gal take Lyle mcdonalds stuff and try to pass it off as his own. I see this over and over again. I mean, it ok to parrot someone else, but give credit and don't try to act like a guru when you're not.
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sorry ,1lbs a month, little calculation error :-X
which is still very good.
but it showcases how much more the dieting itself is either way.
500cals deficit a day will lead to 4lbs fatloss monthly.if you think about that, the body is quite lenient and generous on fatloss#(its also absolute merciless in fatgain when glycogen stores are full and you keep eating,though).
however to be in permannent daily cal deficit of 500cals will be quite little food and permanently unsatisfying.
and at the lower bodyfats, the leptine and brain issues kick in,the body hates going into very lean state.everyone has a barrier, somewhere at 6% where it literally rebels if you keep dieting, once past that barrier, its like a trance, and once you go too low, you can get seriously sick
im sure many have experienced this.
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sorry ,1lbs a month, little calculation error :-X
which is still very good.
but it showcases how much more the dieting itself is either way.
500cals deficit a day will lead to 4lbs fatloss monthly.if you think about that, the body is quite lenient and generous on fatloss#(its also absolute merciless in fatgain when glycogen stores are full and you keep eating,though).
however to be in permannent daily cal deficit of 500cals will be quite little food and permanently unsatisfying.
and at the lower bodyfats, the leptine and brain issues kick in,the body hates going into very lean state.everyone has a barrier, somewhere at 6% where it literally rebels if you keep dieting, once past that barrier, its like a trance, and once you go too low, you can get seriously sick
im sure many have experienced this.
:) ;D
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Damn I cant wait until shitsoul gets back.
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Nope. There's a significant difference percentage wise between what he said and reality. Im just exposing him. Fraudsters like gal like to throw out bullshit numbers like that. Why? Because they aren't scientific minded to think they will have to back up every number they say...instead they rely on parrotry of accomplished people. But the numbers are harder to remember and that's when they get exposed.
On numerous occasions I've seen gal take Lyle mcdonalds stuff and try to pass it off as his own. I see this over and over again. I mean, it ok to parrot someone else, but give credit and don't try to act like a guru when you're not.
??? you are weird lol :-\
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??? you are weird lol :-\
Yes, I'm weird for pointing out that someone's bullshit doesn't add up and for using math to show you it doesn't.
I think you're weird for thinking the truth is weird.
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Yes, I'm weird for pointing out that someone's bullshit doesn't add up and for using math to show you it doesn't.
I think your weird for thinking the truth is weird.
bro gal is shredded year round and has been fat before, how much more credentials would you want the man to have when it comes to talking about anything ``fat loss related``
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bro gal is shredded year round and has been fat before, how much more credentials would you want the man to have when it comes to talking about anything ``fat loss related``
Bro I don't care how shredded gal is. If he's wrong like he is here in this thread I will continue to point it out and if he continues to parrot the works of others I will continue to point it out.
If you have a problem with the truth then that's on you.
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Bro I don't care how shredded gal is. If he's wrong like he is here in this thread I will continue to point it out and if he continues to parrot the works of others I will continue to point it out.
If you have a problem with the truth then that's on you.
knock yourself out
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knock yourself out
Thank goodness we have "Wolfox", patron saint of the truth, to ensure that no half-truths are perpetuated.
Here i was, thinking ephedrine would be responsible for two pounds of fat loss when in reality it is just a little over ONE pound. This is life changing. Galeniko's reign of terror and hyperbole is finally over
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Thank goodness we have "Wolfox", patron saint of the truth, to ensure that no half-truths are perpetuated.
Here i was, thinking ephedrine would be responsible for two pounds of fat loss when in reality it is just a little over ONE pound. This is life changing. Galeniko's reign of terror and hyperbole is finally over
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Thank goodness we have "Wolfox", patron saint of the truth, to ensure that no half-truths are perpetuated.
Here i was, thinking ephedrine would be responsible for two pounds of fat loss when in reality it is just a little over ONE pound. This is life changing. Galeniko's reign of terror and hyperbole is finally over
That difference of 1lb can add up. The difference could be shredded glutes bro. ;D Still, wrong is wrong. Bullshit numbers thrown around the forum without math backing them up are still bullshit numbers. I don't play that and neither should you.
With that said, from what i've seen Galeniko generally parrots good dieting advice. But if you guys want a better understanding of things you should really seek out his main source: Lyle McDonald.
Lyle's ebooks are available online. PM me if you have any trouble finding them.
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That difference of 1lb can add up. The difference could be shredded glutes bro. ;D Still, wrong is wrong. Bullshit numbers thrown around the forum without math backing them up are still bullshit numbers. I don't play that and neither should you.
I will say this, from what i've seen Galeniko generally parrots good dieting advice. But if you guys want a better understanding of things you should really seek out his main source: Lyle McDonald.
Lyle's ebooks are available online. PM me if you have any trouble finding them.
I've read a lot of Lyle's stuff, and i do see the similarity. Is Lyle more scientific & well-read in this arena? Absolutely. But galeniko walks the walk everyday, and Lyle doesn't. Most importantly, galeniko motivated me to get off my ass and do it.
I know you two have a little "thing", but i think you're quibbling over trivialities here. .5lbs, 1lb, 2lbs--who cares? The point is, it helps a little. Certainly not enough to make up for lack of exercise/diet.
Wolfox, I think you're a good dude. But I feel that following gal and waiting for him to slip up is a waste of your time. Just my opinion, I'm not taking any sides
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A lot of bro's missing the main point of ephedrine: to increase the release of fatty acids into the blood stream (to be burnt for energy" AKA to burn fat. It's a very well known mechanism. All of the psychological benefits are just an added bonus.
Team Ephedrine + Caffeine
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A lot of bro's missing the main point of ephedrine: to increase the release of fatty acids into the blood stream (to be burnt for energy" AKA to burn fat. It's a very well known mechanism. All of the psychological benefits are just an added bonus.
Team Ephedrine + Caffeine
amen brother ;)
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A lot of bro's missing the main point of ephedrine: to increase the release of fatty acids into the blood stream (to be burnt for energy" AKA to burn fat. It's a very well known mechanism. All of the psychological benefits are just an added bonus.
Team Ephedrine + Caffeine
and the apetite and hunger depressing effect.
its impossible to calculate this into numbers.
think of a diet day where youre craving foods and then have them, bc there was no efedrine to kill the apetite, and then compare that to a day on efedrine where you can barely down 1lbs of chicken breast all day.
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I know the real ephedrine was banned years ago but where can I get it? Is it still available? miss that stuff
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I know the real ephedrine was banned years ago but where can I get it? Is it still available? miss that stuff
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