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Title: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 01:17:34 AM
Damn I hate these categories. And I dont have any clue of the reason why they exist.

Mens Physique.... Why they dont need to develope their legs? Despite of their small size, they use tons of gears too. Whats the point?

Bikini.........Totaly i dont understand. They dont look fit at all comparing with fitness chics. And they look way less feminine than nude models. And they pose like sluts.... WTF?

Classic bodybuilding......Totaly mystery. They just have to perticipate in normal bodybuilding categories. If IFBB wants something not exagerate like modern bodybuilding, Why they just make new one like NATURAL BODYBUILDING with total doping controle?

When I competed last time, I had to wait 5hrs for getting on stage because of these categories. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: BigRo on November 19, 2013, 01:23:47 AM
Same thing happened for me this weekend past, we were meant to be at location 11.30-12 mid day for 1pm pre judge, I was not onstage until 4.30-5pm and again for finals until 11.30pm, how is a bodybuilder supposed to look their best with all the waiting and standing around.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: hazbin on November 19, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
its rediculous.  if they are so popular, then have them on the sunday after the show.  see what has the higher ticket sales.

they are just a way for promoters to make a ton of extra money off of entry fees for classes that a bunch of people can enter without the incredible hard work it takes to get ready for an actual bodybuilding contest
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 19, 2013, 01:46:00 AM
Same thing happened for me this weekend past, we were meant to be at location 11.30-12 mid day for 1pm pre judge, I was not onstage until 4.30-5pm and again for finals until 11.30pm, how is a bodybuilder supposed to look their best with all the waiting and standing around.
I agree .. it is difficult to peak properly not knowing when you'll be onstage .. it's a delicate thing as it is let alone over a span of a few hours
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: hazbin on November 19, 2013, 01:53:12 AM
Same thing happened for me this weekend past, we were meant to be at location 11.30-12 mid day for 1pm pre judge, I was not onstage until 4.30-5pm and again for finals until 11.30pm, how is a bodybuilder supposed to look their best with all the waiting and standing around.


my last couple shows, i did the open class and the masters class.   

so as a master, i'm one of the first classes out at 9-10 am for prejudging. then as a superheavyweight, i'm the last one out at 1-2 pm for prejudging.   then night show masters, on stage at 6-7 pm. night show superheavyweight on stage at 11-midnight.  long days
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Skeletor on November 19, 2013, 02:08:07 AM
What exactly differentiates "Classic bodybuilding" from the other bodybuilding classes? Do they penalize big guts and synthol usage?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 19, 2013, 02:14:23 AM
What exactly differentiates "Classic bodybuilding" from the other bodybuilding classes? Do they penalize big guts and synthol usage?
Even THEY are confused about what is supposed to mean .. I have no clue
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 02:15:02 AM
its rediculous.  if they are so popular, then have them on the sunday after the show.  see what has the higher ticket sales.

they are just a way for promoters to make a ton of extra money off of entry fees for classes that a bunch of people can enter without the incredible hard work it takes to get ready for an actual bodybuilding contest
Spot on .
Just a excuse for money
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: macos on November 19, 2013, 02:18:06 AM
Promoters are just getting smarter making money out of shit fillers in a bbing show.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 02:19:37 AM
Same thing happened for me this weekend past, we were meant to be at location 11.30-12 mid day for 1pm pre judge, I was not onstage until 4.30-5pm and again for finals until 11.30pm, how is a bodybuilder supposed to look their best with all the waiting and standing around.
I almost fell asleep.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: macos on November 19, 2013, 02:22:24 AM
Spot on .
Just a excuse for money
whatever they may try, bbing is going to remain the backbone.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Bevo on November 19, 2013, 02:25:48 AM
I like achieving that kind of physique myself but I agree it's pretty worthless division as far as competing is concerned

Seems to be handing out pro cards right and left

Same with bbing national shows, getting a pro card seems easier compared to the 90's and early 2000's
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 02:27:24 AM
And also.
I dont understand how is the feeling of those competitors.
I prefer being dead last in normal bodybuilding category of good level to be a mens physique  champ .
Even classic bodybuilding champ i dont want to be. They just sounds like fake to me .
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 02:30:41 AM
I like achieving that kind of physique myself but I agree it's pretty worthless division as far as competing is concerned

Seems to be handing out pro cards right and left

Same with bbing national shows, getting a pro card seems easier compared to the 90's and early 2000's
Who wants the photo with bikini or mens physique pros?
Just pathetic
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: macos on November 19, 2013, 02:59:24 AM
Who wants the photo with bikini or mens physique pros?
Just pathetic
ask musclecentre.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Meaningless on November 19, 2013, 03:23:19 AM
Classic bodybuilding is decent.
Men's physique shouldn't be at bodybuilding competition.
Bikini is a joke and just a sexy ass competition.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 19, 2013, 04:00:40 AM
And also.
I dont understand how is the feeling of those competitors.
I prefer being dead last in normal bodybuilding category of good level to be a mens physique  champ .
Even classic bodybuilding champ i dont want to be. They just sounds like fake to me .
Basically if you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch. I say ban those silly contests.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 04:10:33 AM
Basically if you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch. I say ban those silly contests.
100% agree.
BTW, this year, i look like my competition is cursed. I have got virus in my belly 1 weekout and i stepped on stage with my worst shape in my life. WTFFFFFFFF!!!!!???
But ok, my vengeance plan began. I started to train with Paquito again with rage.
Here is today pic when i woke up.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: affeman on November 19, 2013, 04:12:45 AM
100% agree.
BTW, this year, i look like my competition is cursed. I have got virus in my belly 1 weekout and i stepped on stage with my worst shape in my life. WTFFFFFFFF!!!!!???
But ok, my vengeance plan began. I started to train with Paquito again with rage.
Here is today pic when i woke up.

You look like a natural :-\
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 04:18:07 AM
You look like a natural :-\
And I am ;D
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 19, 2013, 04:19:13 AM
100% agree.
BTW, this year, i look like my competition is cursed. I have got virus in my belly 1 weekout and i stepped on stage with my worst shape in my life. WTFFFFFFFF!!!!!???
But ok, my vengeance plan began. I started to train with Paquito again with rage.
Here is today pic when i woke up.

Looking bigger there kyomu. Yes I think you did best when training with Paco.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 04:24:21 AM
Looking bigger there kyomu. Yes I think you did best when training with Paco.
Anyway, i should be look like this all year around(+5-7kg above contest shape). And this year i was fat when i started to prepare. That made me consume lots of muscle and my immune system shut down too.
If you are natural and prepare for a show, you should never be fat...
Yesterday We did pecs and today they sore like hell.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Viking11 on November 19, 2013, 04:51:54 AM
All bodybuilding should be classic bodybuilding. Throw the rest out. 
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: WOOO on November 19, 2013, 04:53:18 AM
In lifeIf you are natural and prepare for a show, you should never be fat...

fixed
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Thick Nick on November 19, 2013, 05:02:07 AM
100% agree.
BTW, this year, i look like my competition is cursed. I have got virus in my belly 1 weekout and i stepped on stage with my worst shape in my life. WTFFFFFFFF!!!!!???
But ok, my vengeance plan began. I started to train with Paquito again with rage.
Here is today pic when i woke up.


You look like. George Zimmerman. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 05:37:15 AM
fixed
Being fat is also very happy.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: macos on November 19, 2013, 05:40:18 AM
Classic bodybuilding is decent.
Men's physique shouldn't be at bodybuilding competition.
Bikini is a joke and just a sexy ass competition.
bikini competition reminds me thai whore houses. Lol



Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: macos on November 19, 2013, 05:41:24 AM
100% agree.
BTW, this year, i look like my competition is cursed. I have got virus in my belly 1 weekout and i stepped on stage with my worst shape in my life. WTFFFFFFFF!!!!!???
But ok, my vengeance plan began. I started to train with Paquito again with rage.
Here is today pic when i woke up.

why do asians have a weak upper body?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Ron on November 19, 2013, 10:26:03 AM

Men's Physique division is booming here in California.  And yes, you need to train to get in shape for Men's Physique, but not train like a bodybuilder, where muscularity is the most important over physique.   However, I do agree with you that the board shorts eventually need to be just regular shorts.  However, physique over muscularity in this division, making it completely different than bodybuilding.

Classic bodybuilding I assume was and is supposed to be the competitors that with to have overall symmetry more important than the mass monsters. As we all know, muscularity is what drives the sport of bb lately.

Bikini - well... just awesome!  Love it. The Bikini division was made for the Getbiggers! And please - we need more!

Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
DJ181 ,,SAYS CLASSIC AND MEN'S PHYSIQUE IS WHERE TO BE...
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: stuntmovie on November 19, 2013, 10:56:34 AM
You GetBiggers seem to forget that the IFBB and the NPC are businesses ...... and as a 'business' you do whatever is legal to make a profit.

And each of these new NPC events are promoted by Promoters who need to make a profit or else they will have to get  out of the promotional business.

I agree that these contests tend to be way too long now-a-days and might possibly be forced to be held over a two-day period simply due to the vast number of competitors who want to enter to win a trophy (bragging rights) or battle it out for an IFBB Pro Card.

But at present it's a proven fact that the promoters can still promote these NPC events in a single day even when there are 600+ contenders.

I have no idea what the rental rate for an appropriate venue is today but I would assume that NPC promoters pay anywhere from
$5,000 to $15,000 a day towards the expenses of the facility and  associated details.

Double those figures for a two-day event and the expenses sky-rocket which greatly decreases the profit line.

The fact that the competitors have to 'wait' is a valid complaint which some promoters do their best to resolve, but it's often very difficult to work with 'Father Time'. But everyone is aware of this problem and will or are doing their best to resolve it.

This "HURRY UP AND WAIT" problem was one of the major reasons why the bodybuilders and some of the AAU officials broke away from the AAU and joined together to form a new organization which eventually became the NPC.

The "Waiting"part of the problem in the  old AAU days was a result of the the long delays until all the olympic lifters finished their events and received their trophies.

This long wait would sometimes delay the bodybuilding part of the event until way past midnite.

That was one of the straws that broke the camel's back.

One last comment .... No spectator has to sit through the entire day.
Most of the fans depart once their friends and loved ones have completed their part of the event.  This is great for the promoter as it leaves additional seats that can be sold.

But if you arrrive too early, you may have a damn long wait, so you may want to pack a sandwich or two!

Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: OTHstrong on November 19, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
what kyomu and the rest here do not understand is their stance is in the minority, mens physique and woman bikini is so fucken huge, in fact it is almost dwarfing bodybuilding right now.

more physique competitors then bodybuilding.

more womans bikini then bodybuilding.

Audiences are huge and sold out now because of this.

More people per gym compete.

MORE MONEY

the crowd loves this shit. the expos are enormous now.

FUCK THANK PHYSIQUE AND BIKINI FOR SAVING THIS INDUSTRY.

before these 2 categories promoters were taking a gamble running shows and now they can do it comfortably.

KYOMU YOU HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 19, 2013, 01:57:41 PM
what kyomu and the rest here do not understand is their stance is in the minority, mens physique and woman bikini is so fucken huge, in fact it is almost dwarfing bodybuilding right now.

more physique competitors then bodybuilding.

more womans bikini then bodybuilding.

Audiences are huge and sold out now because of this.

More people per gym compete.

MORE MONEY

the crowd loves this shit. the expos are enormous now.

FUCK THANK PHYSIQUE AND BIKINI FOR SAVING THIS INDUSTRY.

before these 2 categories promoters were taking a gamble running shows and now they can do it comfortably.

KYOMU YOU HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION?
Its sad but  you are right...mmmmm...
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Nick II on November 19, 2013, 02:00:06 PM
My only problem is the waiting..I'd rather see bikini chicks over female bb'ers anyday
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Teutonic Knight on November 19, 2013, 02:34:39 PM
What exactly differentiates "Classic bodybuilding" from the other bodybuilding classes? Do they penalize big guts and synthol usage?

read rules on Ifbb.com
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: O.Z. on November 19, 2013, 03:07:42 PM
what kyomu and the rest here do not understand is their stance is in the minority, mens physique and woman bikini is so fucken huge, in fact it is almost dwarfing bodybuilding right now.

more physique competitors then bodybuilding.

more womans bikini then bodybuilding.

Audiences are huge and sold out now because of this.

More people per gym compete.

MORE MONEY

the crowd loves this shit. the expos are enormous now.

FUCK THANK PHYSIQUE AND BIKINI FOR SAVING THIS INDUSTRY.

before these 2 categories promoters were taking a gamble running shows and now they can do it comfortably.

KYOMU YOU HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION?


and it is going to be only bigger, which is great.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini aaaaaaaaand Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Skeletor on November 19, 2013, 03:30:56 PM
read rules on Ifbb.com

Didn't scroll through all the rules (I'd appreciate Cliff's notes) but this how "Classic Bodybuilding" is prefaced:

Classic Bodybuilding responds to the increasing worldwide demand for competitions for men who prefer, unlike today’s current bodybuilders, to develop a less muscular, yet athletic and aesthetically pleasing physique.


This is how "Physique" is prefaced:

The Men’s Athletic Physique category is aimed at men who prefer to develop a less muscular, yet athletic and aesthetically pleasing physique.


It just seems the classic bodybuilding class has a height/weight ratio whereas physique has just 2 height classes.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Bevo on November 19, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
Amanda Latona  :P
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
Damn I hate these categories. And I dont have any clue of the reason why they exist.

Mens Physique.... Why they dont need to develope their legs? Despite of their small size, they use tons of gears too. Whats the point?

Bikini.........Totaly i dont understand. They dont look fit at all comparing with fitness chics. And they look way less feminine than nude models. And they pose like sluts.... WTF?

Classic bodybuilding......Totaly mystery. They just have to perticipate in normal bodybuilding categories. If IFBB wants something not exagerate like modern bodybuilding, Why they just make new one like NATURAL BODYBUILDING with total doping controle?

When I competed last time, I had to wait 5hrs for getting on stage because of these categories. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

It can be really trying on one's patience when something isn't all about them. Too bad you had to wait. Perhaps you could have fit a workout in during that time. Was the wait worth it? Did you win?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: OTHstrong on November 19, 2013, 04:00:52 PM

and it is going to be only bigger, which is great.
indeed, about 4 or 5 years ago my friend Jim promoted a natural national qualifier and he spent an enormous amount; sanction fees, theater, hotels for all of us and food and literally 20 competitors showed up to this show. This was due to a problem within the OPA but the point is the audience in attendance was 150 people, he lost thousands of dollars.

and now shows have 200 + competitors and the audience is 1000 strong at 40 dollars a ticket for the finals, this is great.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 08:51:06 AM
It can be really trying on one's patience when something isn't all about them. Too bad you had to wait. Perhaps you could have fit a workout in during that time. Was the wait worth it? Did you win?
I had never won a show in my life. But we(because not only me ) didnt have that problem back days
Obvious that you have never competed in your life. When you go there, you must calculate the time
 when you get on stage. Because lots  of jobs there like administrating water retention level while maintaining full, painting another pro tan or jantana,pumping up...etc
Logicaly more time you wait more difficult.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 09:05:19 AM
Men's Physique division is booming here in California.  And yes, you need to train to get in shape for Men's Physique, but not train like a bodybuilder, where muscularity is the most important over physique.   However, I do agree with you that the board shorts eventually need to be just regular shorts.  However, physique over muscularity in this division, making it completely different than bodybuilding.

Classic bodybuilding I assume was and is supposed to be the competitors that with to have overall symmetry more important than the mass monsters. As we all know, muscularity is what drives the sport of bb lately.

Bikini - well... just awesome!  Love it. The Bikini division was made for the Getbiggers! And please - we need more!


Mens physique do train like bodybuilder except legs. And worse part is that they are not natural like many bodybuilders.
Classic bbing.They are just small and they just cant run with big dogs in spite of using tons of gears
.plus they are not symmetrical like Zane .
Bikini is for getbigers ? Gimme a break .We generaly love thick women
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2013, 02:44:18 PM
Bikini is for getbigers ? Gimme a break .We generaly love thick women

Count me out. I like athletic looking women. I find women with cartoonish looking butts and tits ridiculous looking.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: dj181 on November 20, 2013, 02:51:28 PM
DJ181 ,,SAYS CLASSIC AND MEN'S PHYSIQUE IS WHERE TO BE...

lol

so basically it's seems to be someting like this...

men's physique=7-8% bodyfat with nice pecs, arms and abs without overly developed lats and as far as the legs go, well... ask mr. nobody

classic bodybuilding=4-5% bodyfat with a proportionate physique while staying within the prescribed weight limits set up within the federation, for example 86 kg MAX for a 180 cm fella
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: The Revelation on November 20, 2013, 03:31:07 PM

a lot of guys coming out of the closet in this thread saying they don't like bikini wtf! :D
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 20, 2013, 03:40:39 PM
lol

so basically it's seems to be someting like this...

men's physique=7-8% bodyfat with nice pecs, arms and abs without overly developed lats and as far as the legs go, well... ask mr. nobody

classic bodybuilding=4-5% bodyfat with a proportionate physique while staying within the prescribed weight limits set up within the federation, for example 86 kg MAX for a 180 cm fella
I trained two mexicans on legs today they did good one was intense but weaker than the other I said I got to go take a piss then left them wondering where did that fucker go? Leaving a trace of where did he go? See they will be all over me next time because I left them.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Natural Man on November 20, 2013, 04:16:28 PM
you could have posted your pic in the first post, no need to pretend to create a thread about something else you know.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: The Revelation on November 20, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
lol

so basically it's seems to be someting like this...

men's physique=7-8% bodyfat with nice pecs, arms and abs without overly developed lats and as far as the legs go, well... ask mr. nobody

classic bodybuilding=4-5% bodyfat with a proportionate physique while staying within the prescribed weight limits set up within the federation, for example 86 kg MAX for a 180 cm fella


bro a lot of physique guys come in as lean and conditioned as most bbers.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: njflex on November 20, 2013, 07:38:35 PM

bro a lot of physique guys come in as lean and conditioned as most bbers.
true..and physique guys for the most part do not have a offseason like a open class bber who goes up 20/40 or so lbs over contest weight,they either get softer and or smaller and drug up back to there show self or cruise prettylean allyr and put finishing touches at the end.     
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
once to be a bodybuilder, must to be keep in shape yearly around.no matter physique, classic, .....
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Shockwave on November 20, 2013, 08:12:07 PM
How the fuck can any straight man bitch about bikini? Seriously?  Youd rather see chicks that embody the missing link between sexes? Wtf?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 20, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
Damn I hate these categories. And I dont have any clue of the reason why they exist.

Mens Physique.... Why they dont need to develope their legs? Despite of their small size, they use tons of gears too. Whats the point?

Bikini.........Totaly i dont understand. They dont look fit at all comparing with fitness chics. And they look way less feminine than nude models. And they pose like sluts.... WTF?

Classic bodybuilding......Totaly mystery. They just have to perticipate in normal bodybuilding categories. If IFBB wants something not exagerate like modern bodybuilding, Why they just make new one like NATURAL BODYBUILDING with total doping controle?

When I competed last time, I had to wait 5hrs for getting on stage because of these categories. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
i agree on some points and disagree on others.

the shows take too damn long to pass through.
this is true.

pre judging and late show should be made into one.

and if they wanna have one in afternoon and one in evening, make the bbuild classes all in the morning and the rest on evening.

ok.mens physique, come on,some of them are more jacked and leaner than some guys in the bbuilding classes, just bc they dont show the legs doesnt mean every one of them has poor legs.
contrary,expect the real massive and thick competitors, theres always one typical thing, many thinned out bbuilders legs from hard dieting.
the physique guys take just as much gear ,yes, maybe a bit less, and they stay away from some drugs, they typicaly have full hair more or less, good faces, unlike the bbuilders who often have face like warzone from previous acne etc.
can say what you want, but the female crowd always goes most crazy when the physique class steps on stage,its a good thing for represting the sport, ofc its also a lie, those bodies will take years on gear to develop, but its more realistic for the common,average genetic male.

yes you all read that right, a physique class level muscularity is what will happen with an average genetic gifted man,after years on steroids and bit gh.can stop the pipe dream of pro size.i dont mean mega doses, but moderate.

the bikini female class is good dimply for the reason that its not so intimidating for a woman to compete, its seem realistic to get that kind of body within reasonable time frame,this attracts more women to the sport.and its not like they look like shit, its just the reality of what is achieved by a woman without drugs,except maybe efedrine and some diuretic.
the physique class women will take gh, fatburners and maybe anti estrogens,etc step by step, let the women chose what they want, surely only very few want be heavyweight female competitor.

classic bodybuilding, i find this one good too, by the weight restrictions, you will rarely ever see a gut on those competitors.

why not a natural show with real doping tests, i think they filled that void with the mens physique class, everyone naive enough will think those are natural.

thats how dumb ppl are, if they wish the physique class were naturals,this means they can easy dwarf them if they only ever try steorids etc.

nothing could be further from reality.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 10:18:51 PM
i agree on some points and disagree on others.

the shows take too damn long to pass through.
this is true.

pre judging and late show should be made into one.

and if they wanna have one in afternoon and one in evening, make the bbuild classes all in the morning and the rest on evening.

ok.mens physique, come on,some of them are more jacked and leaner than some guys in the bbuilding classes, just bc they dont show the legs doesnt mean every one of them has poor legs.
contrary,expect the real massive and thick competitors, theres always one typical thing, many thinned out bbuilders legs from hard dieting.
the physique guys take just as much gear ,yes, maybe a bit less, and they stay away from some drugs, they typicaly have full hair more or less, good faces, unlike the bbuilders who often have face like warzone from previous acne etc.
can say what you want, but the female crowd always goes most crazy when the physique class steps on stage,its a good thing for represting the sport, ofc its also a lie, those bodies will take years on gear to develop, but its more realistic for the common,average genetic male.

yes you all read that right, a physique class level muscularity is what will happen with an average genetic gifted man,after years on steroids and bit gh.can stop the pipe dream of pro size.i dont mean mega doses, but moderate.

the bikini female class is good dimply for the reason that its not so intimidating for a woman to compete, its seem realistic to get that kind of body within reasonable time frame,this attracts more women to the sport.and its not like they look like shit, its just the reality of what is achieved by a woman without drugs,except maybe efedrine and some diuretic.
the physique class women will take gh, fatburners and maybe anti estrogens,etc step by step, let the women chose what they want, surely only very few want be heavyweight female competitor.

classic bodybuilding, i find this one good too, by the weight restrictions, you will rarely ever see a gut on those competitors.

why not a natural show with real doping tests, i think they filled that void with the mens physique class, everyone naive enough will think those are natural.

thats how dumb ppl are, if they wish the physique class were naturals,this means they can easy dwarf them if they only ever try steorids etc.

nothing could be further from reality.
Mmm good post.
In short, male bodybuilding is dying like female bodybuilding ...
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 10:24:50 PM

bro a lot of physique guys come in as lean and conditioned as most bbers.
In here spain , many of them are like bodybuilders condition
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 20, 2013, 10:26:55 PM
In here spain , many of them are like bodybuilders condition

Yes but hide the legs because they don't work them.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 10:32:08 PM
How the fuck can any straight man bitch about bikini? Seriously?  Youd rather see chicks that embody the missing link between sexes? Wtf?
I am in bbing competition . I want to see muscle.
If i want to see chics, I go to fitness expo like ac, adult film expo, striptease ...etc.They arouse me more. But i dont go to bodybuilding competition to get horny
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 20, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
Yes but hide the legs because they don't work them.
Exactly I heard several time their trainer says "Since your legs are weak, you should go mens physique ".
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 20, 2013, 10:41:14 PM
Exactly I heard several time their trainer says "Since your legs are weak, you should go mens physique ".
Not acceptable no legs. Is Paco doing ok are you guys in Madrid or Barcelona I forget.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 05:40:32 AM
Not acceptable no legs. Is Paco doing ok are you guys in Madrid or Barcelona I forget.
Paco is beginning to train hard. Because, he is influenced my vengeance plan(No joke Seriously).
Because, he showed shitty physique in Brazil also. He(We) dont want to retire like that.
We train in Cornella de Llobregat,Barcelona.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 05:48:58 AM
Paco is beginning to train hard. Because, he is influenced my vengeance plan(No joke Seriously).
Because, he showed shitty physique in Brazil also. He(We) dont want to retire like that.
We train in Cornella de Llobregat,Barcelona.
Good I would like to see Paco return to best form again before retiring, you got many years to go yet because you got good health.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 21, 2013, 07:19:17 AM
In here spain , many of them are like bodybuilders condition

from what i seen many are even better conditioned.

btw their trainers dont tell them to join that class bc lack of legs, i can only say it again, half of them have legs as good as the same weight bodybuilders, mr nobody, sorry but its ridiculous to think they dont work legs, this would totaly throw off their diet,they wouldnt need the same protein etc, theyre on the same drug and training rpotocols like bbuilders.they enter that class based on different "flaws" but not always legs.

we have in they gym many competitors, and some physique guys legs outmuscle some bbuilders class legs, in particular the tall ones.thats right heavyweight class bbuilder.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
Good I would like to see Paco return to best form again before retiring, you got many years to go yet because you got good health.
Thats the benefit of being natural!! :D Love to stay big and lean for life!!
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 08:04:11 AM
from what i seen many are even better conditioned.

btw their trainers dont tell them to join that class bc lack of legs, i can only say it again, half of them have legs as good as the same weight bodybuilders, mr nobody, sorry but its ridiculous to think they dont work legs, this would totaly throw off their diet,they wouldnt need the same protein etc, theyre on the same drug and training rpotocols like bbuilders.they enter that class based on different "flaws" but not always legs.

we have in they gym many competitors, and some physique guys legs outmuscle some bbuilders class legs, in particular the tall ones.thats right heavyweight class bbuilder.
Wew, Mens physique guy have good wheels and they dont compete in bbing? ???
Beyond my comprehension...
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: OTHstrong on November 21, 2013, 08:52:34 AM
Wew, Mens physique guy have good wheels and they dont compete in bbing? ???
Beyond my comprehension...
there are at least 5 or 6 ''physique competitors'' at my gym and they all train legs. A lot of physique guys are ex bodybuilders or people who have trained for years, I do not know one physique that has shitty legs.

Why do people think just cause their legs are covered they have shitty legs?   ???

Now to answer your question because bodybuilding is a joke and it has a bad rap, people are embarrassed to compete in bodybuilding and physique is way more respected, especially among regular people and main stream.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 08:54:48 AM
there are at least 5 or 6 ''physique competitors'' at my gym and they all train legs. A lot of physique guys are ex bodybuilders or people who have trained for years, I do not know one physique that has shitty legs.

Why do people think just cause their legs are covered they have shitty legs?   ???

Now to answer your question because bodybuilding is a joke and it has a bad rap, people are embarrassed to compete in bodybuilding and physique is way more respected, especially among regular people and main stream.
Why embarassed? Why joke?
Why they think like that?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: OTHstrong on November 21, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
Why embarassed? Why joke?
Why they think like that?
kyomu bro, I love bodybuilding just like you but we get laughed at a lot in public and we get mocked, this is not a good thing, I was walking down the mall the other day and a bunch 20 years old were walking by and  grunt ''steroids'' and in the same visit some idiot comes up to me and says, hey bro ''what do you bench''

it is embarrassing, I don't even want to get bigger any more and I am not even that big
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 09:33:43 AM
kyomu bro, I love bodybuilding just like you but we get laughed at a lot in public and we get mocked, this is not a good thing, I was walking down the mall the other day and a bunch 20 years old were walking by and  grunt ''steroids'' and in the same visit some idiot comes up to me and says, hey bro ''what do you bench''

it is embarrassing, I don't even want to get bigger any more and I am not even that big
Physique nothing but bitches with no legs.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: The Revelation on November 21, 2013, 09:52:27 AM

i pretty much gotta say everything OTH is saying here is bang on.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 21, 2013, 12:35:47 PM
Physique nothing but bitches with no legs.
now i know youre taking the piss


kyomu, they might have some other flaws which make it pointless to compete in bbuilding.

say, high lats, with high lat insertions one is better of if he competes in physyque.

mustnt be the legs at all.

take the world physique champ, the south african guy, those legs, yah no olympia material, but in regional or even national show, they would do ok in a bbuilding competition.

nah comeon, to say they dont train legs is beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 01:06:48 PM
now i know youre taking the piss


kyomu, they might have some other flaws which make it pointless to compete in bbuilding.

say, high lats, with high lat insertions one is better of if he competes in physyque.

mustnt be the legs at all.

take the world physique champ, the south african guy, those legs, yah no olympia material, but in regional or even national show, they would do ok in a bbuilding competition.

nah comeon, to say they dont train legs is beyond ridiculous.
So tell me why they hide them my smoking friend?
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
kyomu bro, I love bodybuilding just like you but we get laughed at a lot in public and we get mocked, this is not a good thing, I was walking down the mall the other day and a bunch 20 years old were walking by and  grunt ''steroids'' and in the same visit some idiot comes up to me and says, hey bro ''what do you bench''

it is embarrassing, I don't even want to get bigger any more and I am not even that big
Even some people ask me about gear. But since i am natural, i am proud.
90% of human being are stupid. I abandon them for long ago.
Just you do what you persue.
As a bodybuilder, I appreciate what you persue at least. ;)
Thats why I dont want to be loved by most of human being. If you are popular, you are misunderstood or you are pathetic. One of them.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 21, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
So tell me why they hide them my smoking friend?
Thats the point. You train them hard, after, you hide them on stage...
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
Thats the point. You train them hard, after, you hide them on stage...
Clowns and you had to wait 5 hours to get on stage.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 21, 2013, 03:57:34 PM
So tell me why they hide them my smoking friend?
well, ask the ifbb, they made the rule.

i find it dumb too, id agree with the zyzz style short, those would expose the whole legs, without going into homosexual area where glutes and crotch become visible.

maybe if enough pl suggest that to the ifbb judges and officials, this could change one day.

but its 100% that the ifbb came up with the rule,not the "athletes".

ia lso have no idea why it must be boarding shorts, the idfea behind that could really be as simpleminded as making it look like a surfer sunnyboy.

ridiculous,i agree
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
well, ask the ifbb, they made the rule.

i find it dumb too, id agree with the zyzz style short, those would expose the whole legs, without going into homosexual area where glutes and crotch become visible.

maybe if enough pl suggest that to the ifbb judges and officials, this could change one day.

but its 100% that the ifbb came up with the rule,not the "athletes".

ia lso have no idea why it must be boarding shorts, the idfea behind that could really be as simpleminded as making it look like a surfer sunnyboy.

ridiculous,i agree
Its about the money competitors pay to enter then their friends and family come and pay to get in. See I am old school lift heavy weight and diet right enter some contests win some trophies which I have done. But see what this has become a bunch of people who would place last in normal BB contests. It is a joke now.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: O.Z. on November 21, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
Thats the benefit of being natural!! :D Love to stay big and lean for life!!

you would do much better in physique competition
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: O.Z. on November 21, 2013, 04:38:01 PM
now i know youre taking the piss


kyomu, they might have some other flaws which make it pointless to compete in bbuilding.

say, high lats, with high lat insertions one is better of if he competes in physyque.

mustnt be the legs at all.

take the world physique champ, the south african guy, those legs, yah no olympia material, but in regional or even national show, they would do ok in a bbuilding competition.

nah comeon, to say they dont train legs is beyond ridiculous.


there is no need to risk your health by increasing the amount of supplements. And what for, plastic trophy? Most of those guys see physique competition as a future (it is growing very fast). And it is more acceptable by general public. Just wait and see, all those supplement companies will use more and more that type of physique for advertising instead of pro BB.
These guys will have more opportunity to make big bucks (modeling, movies, etc).
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 21, 2013, 04:49:22 PM

there is no need to risk your health by increasing the amount of supplements. And what for, plastic trophy? Most of those guys see physique competition as a future (it is growing very fast). And it is more acceptable by general public. Just wait and see, all those supplement companies will use more and more that type of physique for advertising instead of pro BB.
These guys will have more opportunity to make big bucks (modeling, movies, etc).
yeah, lets make it overly simple and say the physique competitors are "just" on steroids.and maybe minimum dose of gh.

for them to get the extra size to fill out for bbuilding comp, theyd have to start using or add more gh, and with high gh doses comes need for thyroid supplementaion, and then some will take insulin.

all this for a couple lbs of muscle and a couple lbs of pure gut size.

in case nobody else noticed it, the pros are dropping dead like flies randomly at very young age.
this is just not promotable.

we can all sugar coat it and be in denial, we can chose to ignore that gh can make cancer cells grow etc.

to each their own.

they also look like an absolute mess year round, i dont see this with the physique competitors, theyre all few weeks of diet from contest ready,year in year out.

the reason why the class came to being is bc even the ifbb cant ignore reality anymore.



Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: O.Z. on November 21, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
check this out, looks like board short are not part of clothing in some federations and probably will go in others as well as legs will be judged too

http://globalphysique.com/categories/classic-physique/
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: BikiniSlut on November 21, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
check this out, looks like board short are not part of clothing in some federations and probably will go in others as well as legs will be judged too

http://globalphysique.com/categories/classic-physique/

These type of shorts are EXACTLY what physique needs.

I can't believe the IFBB hasn't already done this.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2013, 08:43:19 PM

there is no need to risk your health by increasing the amount of supplements. And what for, plastic trophy? Most of those guys see physique competition as a future (it is growing very fast). And it is more acceptable by general public. Just wait and see, all those supplement companies will use more and more that type of physique for advertising instead of pro BB.
These guys will have more opportunity to make big bucks (modeling, movies, etc).

Supplements are fine in moderation. How effective they actually are, is undetermined.

Regardless of how fit and/or muscular a person is, they also have to have more then that to stand out in the crowd of millions trying to get into modeling, movies and such. Of course there is always jacking off for dollars from schmoes on the internet.  ::)
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Alex on November 21, 2013, 11:34:18 PM
IFBB created the classic BB to join the "amicable" Olympic family. The name of the classic BB changed. In 2014, a new name OLYMPIC bodybuilding. The decision of the Presidium of the IFBB in Morocco, IFBB Congress.
Men's Physique division - is a female fitness bikini. In Europe - GAY, GUY ... HEY ;)
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Bikini - well... just awesome!  Love it. The Bikini division was made for the Getbiggers! And please - we need more!
- 100%!!!
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 22, 2013, 03:39:59 AM
you would do much better in physique competition
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: BikiniSlut on November 22, 2013, 08:10:16 AM
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)


Last place in bodybuilding is usually on par with mens physique competitors.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 22, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)

X2 these punks are mental illed.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: The Revelation on November 22, 2013, 10:05:14 AM
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)


actually bro what i've been noticing is that the physique guys at the upper levels of this sport have much better physiques than a lot of bbers- and im saying that as a Nats level heavy.

Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2013, 10:10:08 AM
actually bro what i've been noticing is that the physique guys at the upper levels of this sport have much better physiques than a lot of bbers- and im saying that as a Nats level heavy.


8)...ur right when usa's /nationals pics are up ,I usually skim down all the classes usually welter/middle/light heavy u see some great builds,classes are deep,and u see some overlooked builds,overrated builds and some 'how did you qualify'and show up here looks.i'm talking regular bbing here.physique guys I usually don't bother with,some look great tho..
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: galeniko on November 22, 2013, 10:30:09 AM
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)

but you always get that placing why you complaining ;D ;D

Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: OTHstrong on November 22, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
As i stated i would rather like to be the last place of bbing category than being Mr.mens physique olympia(ok without thinking the economic effect.)

no offence bro, but Mr. Olympia physique, Mark Anthony would wipe the floor with you in a bodybuilding competition, I competed with him at the same stage in 08 and he wiped the line up clean in his category and he has the exact same physique now, same build, same weight, same conditioning, he is more shredded and polished then you even as a physique competitor.

So before you go and start making fun of these guy, some of them are jacked.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 22, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
no offence bro, but Mr. Olympia physique, Mark Anthony would wipe the floor with you in a bodybuilding competition, I competed with him at the same stage in 08 and he wiped the line up clean in his category and he has the exact same physique now, same build, same weight, same conditioning, he is more shredded and polished then you even as a physique competitor.

So before you go and start making fun of these guy, some of them are jacked.
I am not saying that they are inferior than me.
Just i would feel very boring if i dont pose 7 mandatories and free posing routine .
If bbing competition is about semirelax pose only, i would retire.
Title: Re: Mens Physique, Bikini and Classic Bodybuilding.....
Post by: kyomu on November 22, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
but you always get that placing why you complaining ;D ;D


I have never won. But runner up three times .
Third place 3 times.