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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on November 25, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
The guy isn't even under the ground yet. Give it a rest.
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People in many sports take things to the extreme. NFL players at 30% bodyfat, eating thousands of calories to "keep their weight up". Marathon runners pushing their joints and cardiovascular system way past fitness. Extreme is what makes people good at sports.
I'd even go as far to say that most people who are the BEST IN THE WORLD at their activities - business, sports, etc - do it to the point that most would call it extreme. It's their choice, and to be the BEST at something, I cannot imagine that kind of high.
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What is wrong with them? Lack of pulse and breath for starters.
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many doctors will think a guy on hrt is insane already.
yeah, the list never ends, dead at around age 40.incredible.
so much for genetics also means how much drugs one can handle
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the main problem is, the steroid side effects,barring gyno, dont physicaly hurt, theyre painless.
this leads ppl to believe theyre fine.
walking with bloated a red-perple face, barely breathing while walking, but theyre fine.
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The guy isn't even under the ground yet. Give it a rest.
Fuck up.
He made his choice.
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The guy isn't even under the ground yet. Give it a rest.
Did you enjoy Timeout? You're going back. 8)
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Did you enjoy Timeout? You're going back. 8)
8) ;D ;)
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If I had a friend or family member doing what they were doing, I would be absolutely brutal to them about their choice. It seems that nobody ever gave a fuck really about these people. You don`t just let someone continually kill themselves if you actually care about them.
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the main problem is, the steroid side effects,barring gyno, dont physicaly hurt, theyre painless.
this leads ppl to believe theyre fine.
walking with bloated a red-perple face, barely breathing while walking, but theyre fine.
This
Plus body dismorphic disorder is very real and bb'ers are encouraged to keep it
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Their entire persona gets wrapped up in being the biggest, strongest guy in every room they are in. For some reason they just never outgrow that mentality and take very stupid risks with their health to maintain it. There really is no talking any sense to them about it. They just can't imagine not being big and strong. Wasn't it Nasser who said something like he'd rather be big and die than ever be a normal sized person again. Well Nasser, looks like you got your wish.
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
the same could be said about people that abuse alcohol.....gambling.... ...smoking......over eating.....or how about women that use birth control......or people that sit in the sun too often.....or people that text and drive.....or people that drive too God damn fast.....on and on and on......just my 2 cents.
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I think Adonis has a point with this thread even if the timing is insensitive, plenty of guys myself included stopped bodybuilding due to drug use of having to go to a level where you just feel it could create problems.
Its a shame that so many guys are now dropping from competing in a federation where they abused drugs to meet the criteria of the competition.
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The guy isn't even under the ground yet. Give it a rest.
Say goodbye, bud. :D
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Their entire persona gets wrapped up in being the biggest, strongest guy in every room they are in. For some reason they just never outgrow that mentality and take very stupid risks with their health to maintain it. There really is no talking any sense to them about it. They just can't imagine not being big and strong. Wasn't it Nasser who said something like he'd rather be big and die than ever be a normal sized person again. Well Nasser, looks like you got your wish.
This. Their entire identity revolves around and always has revolved around being huge and muscular. Hard for them to let go of that. That spotlight goes away. Same psychology that affects hollywood stars that loses the spotlight. Many of them get severly depressed and suicidal.
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Their entire persona gets wrapped up in being the biggest, strongest guy in every room they are in. For some reason they just never outgrow that mentality and take very stupid risks with their health to maintain it. There really is no talking any sense to them about it. They just can't imagine not being big and strong.
Describes DA perfectly. We're seeing this one unfold in real time.
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Some people take things to far and don't know when enough is enough.
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*The world is 5 billion years old... Humans are 100,000 years old... The world just shakes us off like a bunch of fleas.. Dont worry about saving the planet.. lets worry about saving the Humans... because Humans are fucked up* George Carlin :D
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This
Plus body dismorphic disorder is very real and bb'ers are encouraged to keep it
yes, the bigger one gets , the smaller one feels.
i think for who doesnt want to compete or earn money with this all, something like hrt*2 or so, and whatever the gains and results is, be happy with that and you will be .
if after 1-2 years on this the physique isnt somewhat impressive yet, then its not meant to happen,wrong sport.
going any further than this is asking for it.
ofc, huge bbuilders will say they dont even feel 500mg test weekly, fine.
but what counts is how a newcomer in natural state feels a real 500mg test weekly kicking in.the pumps where you think it gonna blow up your arms and legs etc.
that is the sensation to the natural sate of the body,it feels dramatic.when one is so far developed to not even feel a thing on 500mg test, then this says everything about how far from naturaly meant state one is.
some ppl think 1 g test weekly is "safe", hell no, if one gos to pharmacy and gets real test, then its not safe at all,it will guranteed bring stradiol out of whack and cholesterol.just for starters.some say couple gramms weekly is safe,lol.
yeah, sure one will not drop dead the minute after injection, but that doesnt make it safe.
i know why my role models are the guys who are 50+ and have about my build. 8)
btw i dont think the moment adonis picked is inapropoiate, he made his own thread and left the pther one be.
yeah how many times to say this isnt the right moment to talk about this.
this i precisely and exactly the right moment to talk about this.
i hope the permafatsos are paying attention.
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
their schmoes are too busy buying their used thongs to offer any constructive criticism
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Say goodbye, bud. :D
Stop with the empty threats. I have done nothing wrong.
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
in a couple weeks he won't be nearly as massive
death is highly catabolic
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
He was probably on the extreme side. From the stories told and seeing how he obviously did synthol.
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
Yes, he attained the zenith of life. :D
LOL@your statement I bolded in red.
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
Why would I have an appreciation for that? I think its disgusting. I have seen fat people his size and larger. No difference really.
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Ronnie and Marcus must be shitting bricks about now.
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
Did you know that Greg Kovacs could not even wipe his own ass due to his size? His girlfriend used to have to do it for him. Sad, but true.
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..The entire message in all of this is should be that yes; anabolic drugs do have adverse side effects and long term prolonged use in high dosages will contribute to the pathology of virtually every organ in the body...
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they are lying insecure losers who impress dumb low lives who never understood or knew how they got so big precisely because they were lied to, now if after a while you still dont figure something is wrong you re a retard or you dont really care about the person you re living with. As simple as that.
To be honest i just think both bbers and those who support them/live with them are just fucking dumb losers who have no clue what they are doing, too uneducated, just seeing the appearance and not what s behind it. Yeah, you ve got to be dumb to do that crap for years, decades , and never understand. Pretty much sums everything there is to know about them. Same could be said of people destroying themselves in other various destructives addictions while nobody ever tell them what they re doing is wrong. We could say true anus has a deep unadressed insecurity for not wanting kids and being a cynical egocentrical sad dude , his gf should figure it, but in this case they re both weird on that particular subject.
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Nature has its way of weeding out the dumb ones.
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..The entire message in all of this is should be that yes; anabolic drugs do have adverse side effects and long term prolonged use in high dosages will contribute to the pathology of virtually every organ in the body...
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Still, it doesnt or wont prevent millions of dumb people to keep following the same path.
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Deep post I read on MD
I can always tell who has kids and who doesnt have kids when I see people post that its ok to die at 44 if you lived a great life. Trust me with this....34 is right around the corner, 38 comes right after that and youll be 44 and thinking "wow im already 44, that went by quick"......You do not want to be dying of heart failure in your early 40's with a beautiful wife near your hospital bed and three little children asking "Daddy when are you coming home"?...(and your not)....and they have nobody as a father thru their formulative years because you were so self absorbed as a bodybuilder you didnt think of the future gameplan of health.
See people will argue against this till they are blue in the face because you cannot inject 3cc's tommorow if there is potential you could die down the road. So how do they deal with it? They use the "well it happened to that guy because of this....and it wont happen to me" ... I post on a pretty hardcore board and there is quite a few people with kidney failure and heart attacks (kidney failure at 29 and heart attacks at 37....things like that).....just look at this last couple years off the top of my head... Brad Hillenbaugh (kidney failure), Nasser, Kovacs, Duvall, Daniele Seccarecci, Art Atwood, Mattarrazzo (heart), Luke wood....its getting ridiculous. I remember in the early 90's when GH was insanely expensive and everyone was saying Strydom was using 6ius a day...and people were out of their minds thinking that was such a large dose. Nowadays? Thats a middleweight at a county show's dose. Back in the 90's... 1000mg of test was considered a pretty hefty dose. Thats a starter cycle for alot of these guys who want it so bad nowadays.
Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder tommorow and now you got a slew of young, impressionables who think there is a secret besides extreme mesomorphic genes and response....and these guys listening to this Boston Loyd kid who is what 22 years old and using 13 grams of stuff? And he justifies himself by telling people thats what everyone does? How the hell would a 22 year old kid from northern cali know what a pro bodybuilder from Florida, Texas, or New York does? Does Boston Loyd know what YOU right now who is reading this does juice wise? No he doesnt and he doesnt know what 400 different pro bodybuilders do.
The battle cry used to be "where are the bodies...if steroids are so bad?"....well you are seeing them now. The late 90's into the 2000's and the increased access and lower prices due to the internet ....brought on a huge amount of terribly insecure "junky-like" bodybuilders who didnt think longterm.
And you are starting to see the bodies....but what is coming up? what are we going to see from the last 8 years? It will be ridiculous. Its gotten outrageous with the dosages used and you are going to see alot of people dying and health maladies over the next decade. I watched that Loyd video of him beating his chest saying his blood work was ok. Did Kovacs die 2 months after his abuse? Nasser? Artwood? No they didnt...Virtually any 22 year old kid who abuses himself isnt going to drop dead at 23! But 15-20 years later? Thats is where there is going to be an accumalation of damage.
What are we seeing over and over of late? Heart failure. The science is there! Anabolic Steroids, Growth Hormone, and Hypertrophy of the Heart
You combine grams of testosterone with large doses of Growth hormone over time....what is going to happen to you is in the literature above and the consequences below.
Anthony M. D'Arezzo Obituary: View Anthony D'Arezzo's Obituary by The Providence Journal
See people only read about so and so pro bodybuilder who succumbs....nobody hears about the 3rd place finisher of MR Podunk who wanted it so bad and ended up dying at age 47 from his usage.
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Deep post I read on MD
Mike Mattarazzo is still alive, right?
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Deep post I read on MD
what is funny is that you removed your avatar pics of your grotesque looking juiced physique in the meanwhile. You re next, retard.
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Mike Mattarazzo is still alive, right?
Yeah but with a history of heart problems.
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what is funny is that you removed your avatar pics of your grotesque looking juiced physique in the meanwhile. You re next, retard.
Lol
Nah, just got tired of lookin at myself. I'd ask if you even lift, but I already know that answer.
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Deep post I read on MD
Thats all very nice Nick, but you are no stranger to steroids. How do YOU rationalize your usage? What exactly do you suppose is going to happen to you?
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Lol
Nah, just got tired of lookin at myself. I'd ask if you even lift, but I already know that answer.
So you know I lift weights practice physical conditioning for health and self esteem?
My pics are on here posted some weeks ago, retard.
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I really would like to know what goes through someone like Nick Toscani, a serious steroid user, when he reads about Kovacs etc...
I bet he thinks he is "doing it all correctly" and that he doesn`t have any "genetic history" of heart disease etc... :D
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Thats all very nice Nick, but you are no stranger to steroids. How do YOU rationalize your usage? What exactly do you suppose is going to happen to you?
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I'm in shape, get bloodwork, use moderate dosages..could a health problem sneak up on me? Sure. I knew that when I started.
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I'm in shape, get bloodwork, use moderate dosages..could a health problem sneak up on me? Sure. I knew that when I started.
I hope to god your wearing pants.
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I'm in shape, get bloodwork, use moderate dosages..could a health problem sneak up on me? Sure. I knew that when I started.
Why do you do it?
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People on the steroid forum are telling me once I start it's best not to come off. ??? There are guys here who barely look like gym rats that don't go off. Under 200lbs.
Fuck that. I'm staying natty for another a year then I'll reevaluate. If I decide to use I'll do at most 2 cycles a year and I will go off. The difference between them and me is I'll have a foundation built naturally that will stay with me vs them once they go off drugs they'll look like shit e.g sev.
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I hope to god your wearing pants.
Judging by the myriad of other pictures found readily on the web, I would guess not. :-\
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So you know I lift weights practice physical conditioning for health and self esteem?
My pics are on here posted some weeks ago, retard.
I now see how you got the handle uberbitch, getbig is obviously where you take all you're anger out for being a loser in real life. You get off by judging people, that speaks volumes
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Its a mental disorder. Like girls who only fuck coloreds
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I now see how you got the handle uberbitch, getbig is obviously where you take all you're anger out for being a loser in real life. You get off by judging people, that speaks volumes
And you get off by being judged by people. :-\
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People on the steroid forum are telling me once I start it's best not to come off. ??? There are guys here who barely look like a gym rat that don't go off.
Fuck that. I'm staying natty for another a year then I'll reevaluate. If I decide to use I'll do at most 2 cycles a year and I will go off. The difference between them and me is I'll have a foundation built naturally that will stay with me vs them once they go off drugs they'll look like shit e.g sev.
Guru's here say once you can bench your bw 10x you are ready for steroids. ??? I benched my bw 10x in highschool. They say you only need a year of training to start steroids. ??? This is from the respected plagiarizer Galeniko.
There's something wrong with these people. ALL DRUGS - no foundation or hard work. They want instant results. Take away the drugs and they look like shit.
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And you get off by being judged by people. :-\
Yes, shame on me and all these other evil bodybuilders! I fuckin hate em!
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People on the steroid forum are telling me once I start it's best not to come off. ??? There are guys here who barely look like a gym rat that don't go off.
Fuck that. I'm staying natty for another a year then I'll reevaluate. If I decide to use I'll do at most 2 cycles a year and I will go off. The difference between them and me is I'll have a foundation built naturally that will stay with me vs them once they go off drugs they'll look like shit e.g sev.
Yep...good call. On my ABSOLUTE WORST day, 6 months clean of gear, I still look like a really really good natty competitor. THAT is why you should build that base bro.
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Did you know that Greg Kovacs could not even wipe his own ass due to his size? His girlfriend used to have to do it for him. Sad, but true.
pics or it never happened ! Lol
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If I had a friend or family member doing what they were doing, I would be absolutely brutal to them about their choice. It seems that nobody ever gave a fuck really about these people. You don`t just let someone continually kill themselves if you actually care about them.
Nobody truly knows what they are doing. Every bodybuilder/physique competitor I've ever met isn't forthcoming with what they use or do. Bikini girls doing hours of cardio.....bodybuilders using insane dosages......competitors eating a lot less than one would think.
From bikini to bodybuilding.......the world of physique competition is not healthy.
There are tons of obese people out there, yet their loved ones can only do so much. "Eat less, exercise more, blah blah blah." You can only do so much.
Of course people love them....but in the end WE make our own decisions.
Look at DA.....for YEARS people have been telling him to stop fucking up, yet he doesn't listen.
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I now see how you got the handle uberbitch, getbig is obviously where you take all you're anger out for being a loser in real life. You get off by judging people, that speaks volumes
I'm a loser because I'm saying you re an insecure steroid abuser? Makes perfect sense.
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Plus... even without ever touching a weight, steak or steroid... Kovacs would have been 230 pounds without blinking. He was a big man, a heavy man. A lot of guys get off steroids and return to 160 pounds. I don't think Kovacs had seen 160 since 5th grade. Just a big, big man. Sure, the extremes didn't help... but a lot of really big men have health probs in 40s.
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Plus... even without ever touching a weight, steak or steroid... Kovacs would have been 230 pounds without blinking. He was a big man, a heavy man. A lot of guys get off steroids and return to 160 pounds. I don't think Kovacs had seen 160 since 5th grade. Just a big, big man. Sure, the extremes didn't help... but a lot of really big men have health probs in 40s.
Early in his career his shape wasn't so disproportionate. He actually look decent but he went for size over quality.
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If you re naturally heavy big boned and so on, the only way to last longer is to get thinner. IN fact same could be said of every person whatevher their somatotype; being lean and slightly muscular is the best health /longevity wise.
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If you re naturally heavy big boned and so on, the only way to last longer is to get thinner. IN fact same could be said of every person whatevher their somatotype; being lean and slightly muscular is the best health /longevity wise.
yes, agreed there. And we see a lot of NFL player slim down immediately after playing... they actually look skinny. They *could* easily be bodybuilders, big and thick... but when it comes to health, those weak hippies eating wheatgrass and weighing 132 pounds will statistically outlive most bodybuilders.
Sure, being muscular has its advantages over being vegan twink, but lifespan isn't one of them.
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I'm a loser because I'm saying you re an insecure steroid abuser? Makes perfect sense.
You're a loser for many reasons. The most obvious being your 9 thousand post full of spite. The anger you have due to a shitty life spills out your keyboard
Another tiny hint is your vendetta against steroid users on a bodybuilding website..you finally get you're vengance after years of feeling like shit next to one in real life
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The thing about these guys is that they probably ignored or didn't notice all the negative signs their bodies were sending them.
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At the end of the day, what are any of them really missing out on anyhow?
they live what they dream off.
fair trade to them.
they lived a more happy life than a miserable ueberman,for example.
sure, can call them junkiies, but when a junkie gets their fix,theyre the happiest ppl in the world until withdrawals kick in.
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At the end of the day, what are any of them really missing out on anyhow?
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
you seem to have all the answers with your 40 thousand posts...fuck if there is any stupid moron its you....people die everyday of heart problems--
keep eating your big macs and cheeseburgers --and fyi Greg was aware of his heart condition and was trying to make things right-----Ya fucken clown...
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the main problem is, the steroid side effects,barring gyno, dont physicaly hurt, theyre painless.
this leads ppl to believe theyre fine.
walking with bloated a red-perple face, barely breathing while walking, but theyre fine.
truth. Look at the steroid forums and see all this 18-24 year olds talking about how their bloodwork looks good when they come off and thinking they aren't doing any permanent damage. I mean shit, I'm guilty of it too but I'm not in denial that this is bad for me. Look at that Bostin Lloyd disgrace for example
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You're a loser for many reasons. The most obvious being your 9 thousand post full of spite. The anger you have due to a shitty life spills out your keyboard
Another tiny hint is your vendetta against steroid users on a bodybuilding website..you finally get you're vengance after years of feeling like shit next to one in real life
Brutal :D
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People on the steroid forum are telling me once I start it's best not to come off. ??? There are guys here who barely look like gym rats that don't go off. Under 200lbs.
Fuck that. I'm staying natty for another a year then I'll reevaluate. If I decide to use I'll do at most 2 cycles a year and I will go off. The difference between them and me is I'll have a foundation built naturally that will stay with me vs them once they go off drugs they'll look like shit e.g sev.
Well you shouldn't come off. "Off" should be TRT aka 100-150mg of testosterone only. Don't take steroids if you plan to cycle off completely and do the whole pct thing because there are so many things wrong with that.
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Well you shouldn't come off. "Off" should be TRT aka 100-150mg of testosterone only. Don't take steroids if you plan to cycle off completely and do the whole pct thing because there are so many things wrong with that.
What if you're concerned with maintaining fertility?
Also what do you say to George Farrah who has every athlete come off between cycles for multiple reasons?
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truth. Look at the steroid forums and see all this 18-24 year olds talking about how their bloodwork looks good when they come off and thinking they aren't doing any permanent damage. I mean shit, I'm guilty of it too but I'm not in denial that this is bad for me. Look at that Bostin Lloyd disgrace for example
humans greedy and impatient to reach their goals.
every cheat meal on gear comes with a long term price, thats just one example.
elevated cholesterol leevels?
well, that means something is happening inside,lol.
this later on will be explained by the doctor to the fools as clogged up arteries, either after the stroke or something like that, or after death, to the family "in layman terms, your son had an infarct,madam, did he have a bad diet per chance?"
elevated cholestrol levels are not just an up and coming possible stroke, its a REACTION to something, it means somethings already going wrong.
and theres some steroids which make the cholestorol go out of whack.
ironicaly, its the typicaly called "cutting steroids", these fools take those in the naive assumption the steorid itself is gonna make them shredded, and thus, have a terrible diet along with that, another factor just adding up to the bad c levels.
if you think about this, its 50% hillarious, 50% saddening.
but , there is people who would rather drop dead instead of be a skinnyfat twink.
count me in aswell.
its nothing to do with insecurity, before some wannabe sigmund freud opens his mouth to let some turd come out of it, its to do with desiring the superior looks and thats that, theres no mental conspiracy behind it.
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What if you're concerned with maintaining fertility?
Also what do you say to George Farrah who has every athlete come off between cycles for multiple reasons?
ppl can come off, sure, if they happy with their size,they will be there soon again.
a doc i spoke to has said the biggest risk is the fertility issue, he was very clear on that.well thats great if someone doesnt even want kids in the first place, and i seen more than 1 user and abuser who impregnated women left and right, some even stright within cycles.
coming off entirely feels terribel,even when mentaly prepared,lol, terribel.
Well you shouldn't come off. "Off" should be TRT aka 100-150mg of testosterone only. Don't take steroids if you plan to cycle off completely and do the whole pct thing because there are so many things wrong with that.
the guy you taling to shouldnt even get started, he got the fatty genetic, fatty skinyy half mulatto, you know,not the superior african american genes, but the fatsos genes.i predict bitchtitts on very first cycle for the guy.
also not sure if he even train seriously,hes not even near maxed out naturaly., he has the dvelopment of ,well, lets call a spade a spade....you heard of the spaniard tennis player nadal?nadal is more jacked than him.
wolfox better get back to the drawing board and playing with colored crayons
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humans greedy and impatient to reach their goals.
every cheat meal on gear comes with a long term price, thats just one example.
elevated cholesterol leevels?
well, that means something is happening inside,lol.
this later on will be explained by the doctor to the fools as clogged up arteries, either after the stroke or something like that, or after death, to the family "in layman terms, your son had an infarct,madam, did he have a bad diet per chance?"
elevated cholestrol levels are not just an up and coming possible stroke, its a REACTION to something, it means somethings already going wrong.
and theres some steroids which make the cholestorol go out of whack.
ironicaly, its the typicaly called "cutting steroids", these fools take those in the naive assumption the steorid itself is gonna make them shredded, and thus, have a terrible diet along with that, another factor just adding up to the bad c levels.
if you think about this, its 50% hillarious, 50% saddening.
but , there is people who would rather drop dead instead of be a skinnyfat twink.
count me in aswell.
its nothing to do with insecurity, before some wannabe sigmund freud opens his mouth to let some turd come out of it, its to do with desiring the superior looks and thats that, theres no mental conspiracy behind it.
Amen brotha
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humans greedy and impatient to reach their goals.
every cheat meal on gear comes with a long term price, thats just one example.
elevated cholesterol leevels?
well, that means something is happening inside,lol.
this later on will be explained by the doctor to the fools as clogged up arteries, either after the stroke or something like that, or after death, to the family "in layman terms, your son had an infarct,madam, did he have a bad diet per chance?"
elevated cholestrol levels are not just an up and coming possible stroke, its a REACTION to something, it means somethings already going wrong.
and theres some steroids which make the cholestorol go out of whack.
ironicaly, its the typicaly called "cutting steroids", these fools take those in the naive assumption the steorid itself is gonna make them shredded, and thus, have a terrible diet along with that, another factor just adding up to the bad c levels.
if you think about this, its 50% hillarious, 50% saddening.
but , there is people who would rather drop dead instead of be a skinnyfat twink.
count me in aswell.
its nothing to do with insecurity, before some wannabe sigmund freud opens his mouth to let some turd come out of it, its to do with desiring the superior looks and thats that, theres no mental conspiracy behind it.
I can take 1ml a fortnight TRT with no changes to lipid profile, If I double it my HDL drops below 1 but my overall changes, everyone is different, but due to this resulting blood work I would never consider using more than 1ml TRT and I even stretch that to a third week and take times in the year to come off overall.
Secret to TRT and how it works on you is comparing blood work on and off if it doesn't compare favourably dont use it.
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What if you're concerned with maintaining fertility?
Also what do you say to George Farrah who has every athlete come off between cycles for multiple reasons?
This is pure bro science, but I know many lifers with kids. Most have daughters for some reason
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,hes not even near maxed out naturaly.,
I'm not maxed out naturally. Not even close. You however told me I was ready to use steroids because I can bench my bw 10x lol. You also said 1 year of training is good enough for someone to start steroids. lol
You're such fraud. All drugs - no foundation. Actually, you're the perfect guru for the legions of losers who don't know how or want to train properly and are looking for shortcuts. After the newb gains slow down they - like you - think its time to jump on the sauce. Thats why as soon as you go off you look like utter shit.
coming off entirely feels terribel,even when mentaly prepared,lol, terribel.
Of course you can't handle it. You're entire existence is dependent upon steroids. You have no foundation. All drugs and you still couldn't ever be a competitor. You're also a certified meth head. Damn near 40, single and living in an apartment. What a loser. Literally ALL drugs - and not much to show for it.
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This is pure bro science, but I know many lifers with kids. Most have daughters for some reason
What if you want a son then? :)
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What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
That's something I've often wondered about! Like Bostin Loyd when he went to the hospital for shooting oil or roids into a nerve bed and fucking up his arm.
If I was the doctor I'd cuss him out.
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People in many sports take things to the extreme. NFL players at 30% bodyfat, eating thousands of calories to "keep their weight up". Marathon runners pushing their joints and cardiovascular system way past fitness. Extreme is what makes people good at sports.
I'd even go as far to say that most people who are the BEST IN THE WORLD at their activities - business, sports, etc - do it to the point that most would call it extreme. It's their choice, and to be the BEST at something, I cannot imagine that kind of high.
Damn, you're not just a political apologist anymore... Athletics now too!! ;D
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What if you want a son then? :)
Same thing I said, just a gamble you choose to take
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in the 70's they asked every Olympic athlete from every sport ' if you could take a pill that would gaurentee you a gold medal, but you would die five years later, what would you do?'. apparently over 90% said they would take it.
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People on the steroid forum are telling me once I start it's best not to come off. ??? There are guys here who barely look like gym rats that don't go off. Under 200lbs.
Fuck that. I'm staying natty for another a year then I'll reevaluate. If I decide to use I'll do at most 2 cycles a year and I will go off. The difference between them and me is I'll have a foundation built naturally that will stay with me vs them once they go off drugs they'll look like shit e.g sev.
If you don't have any experience with something, its generally best not to speak on it.
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If you don't have any experience with something, its generally best not to speak on it.
I'm using their experiences as examples. Info that users here volunteer. I'm not creating steroid cycles for someone or telling them whats the best AAS for this or that.
Fact is the lot of you look like shit for the amount of time you've been on AAS. Thats where the butt hurt comes from.
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Are NFL players allowed to use Steroids under a doctors supervision?
I support Steroid use in professional sports, just not bodybuilding.
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Whats crazy is there are some extreme users here who look like shit compared to some polygraph tested naturals. Then we have a guru here who has been using for over a decade that couldn't compete against these naturals.
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Let's face it, a long life is overrated in most cases. If these guys were happy while they were walking around like freaks then who are we to judge. Maybe they had some regrets when their health took a turn for the worse but maybe it was worth it to them; and who doesn't have some regrets.
Whats worse is if you take all these drugs and risk your health to only be a glorified twink. Being the biggest baddest dude is something to behold. But being 175lbs on multiple steroids, gh, t3, clen, and AMPHETAMINES etc???? FUCK THAT IS SO SAD.
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you seem to have all the answers with your 40 thousand posts...fuck if there is any stupid moron its you....people die everyday of heart problems--
keep eating your big macs and cheeseburgers --and fyi Greg was aware of his heart condition and was trying to make things right-----Ya fucken clown...
Sure he was. Sure he was.
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humans greedy and impatient to reach their goals.
every cheat meal on gear comes with a long term price, thats just one example.
elevated cholesterol leevels?
well, that means something is happening inside,lol.
this later on will be explained by the doctor to the fools as clogged up arteries, either after the stroke or something like that, or after death, to the family "in layman terms, your son had an infarct,madam, did he have a bad diet per chance?"
elevated cholestrol levels are not just an up and coming possible stroke, its a REACTION to something, it means somethings already going wrong.
and theres some steroids which make the cholestorol go out of whack.
ironicaly, its the typicaly called "cutting steroids", these fools take those in the naive assumption the steorid itself is gonna make them shredded, and thus, have a terrible diet along with that, another factor just adding up to the bad c levels.
if you think about this, its 50% hillarious, 50% saddening.
but , there is people who would rather drop dead instead of be a skinnyfat twink.
count me in aswell.
its nothing to do with insecurity, before some wannabe sigmund freud opens his mouth to let some turd come out of it, its to do with desiring the superior looks and thats that, theres no mental conspiracy behind it.
Therein lies your problem. You desire the superior look for whatever reason. Whatever that reason may be, could you not find another way to fulfill it without drugs or is that the only way you can do it?
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Guru's here say once you can bench your bw 10x you are ready for steroids. ??? I benched my bw 10x in highschool. They say you only need a year of training to start steroids. ??? This is from the respected plagiarizer Galeniko.
There's something wrong with these people. ALL DRUGS - no foundation or hard work. They want instant results. Take away the drugs and they look like shit.
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Building a base is KEY to having a long lifting career and staying large for a long time. Keeping a 300lb bench, 400 squat and deadlift without drugs at 200lbs is possible with serious training and decent food intake. Then you are only a cycle of test away from looking like a national competitor in clothes. Too many guys are all drugs here giving out advice you shouldn't be listening to.
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Let's face it, a long life is overrated in most cases. If these guys were happy while they were walking around like freaks then who are we to judge. Maybe they had some regrets when their health took a turn for the worse but maybe it was worth it to them; and who doesn't have some regrets.
i have watched shawn rhoden doing a guestposing.
when he stepped on the stage, the athmosphere in the room changed form 1 second to the other.
the whole females in the room had vaginal meltdowns, every single person was holding up their phone to catcha pic or video.
safe to say that its all worth it to him.
long life in fear and misery is indeed overrated.
adam, yes, an acceptable for me look i can do without any supplements, itll be just acceptable.
but then again, i rather care for conditioning over anything else, there just has to be some little bit of mass along with that.
who knows, maybe i grow out of this mindset some day.it happened before where i just stopped going to the gym, precisely at my biggest, and didnt go back in 3or4years at all, not even once, i didnt even think about training.
but that was a different mindset,that was the burning out in the race for size, to gain any more, the amounts of food became unbearable, the effort in the training and the pain coming with that,and during recovery was just not worth it anymore.
it was a big error to have that mindset in the first place,and even bigger error to stay away from gym for so long, i didnt exactly exchange that with a useful hobby.
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Building a base is KEY to having a long lifting career and staying large for a long time. Keeping a 300lb bench, 400 squat and deadlift without drugs at 200lbs is possible with serious training and decent food intake. Then you are only a cycle of test away from looking like a national competitor in clothes. Too many guys are all drugs here giving out advice you shouldn't be listening to.
well i do have my foundation,see above.its al good.
it was couple years before first cycle.
bad for those who havent one.up to each what they want.
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Whats worse is if you take all these drugs and risk your health to only be a glorified twink. Being the biggest baddest dude is something to behold. But being 175lbs on multiple steroids, gh, t3, clen, and AMPHETAMINES etc???? FUCK THAT IS SO SAD.
Who is 175lbs on all of the drugs you listed? dj181??
It seems like you're worked up about something. AAS users? Galeniko? What's grinding your gears lately, Wolfox?
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People are gonna put into their bodies what they want to, plain and simple. Some suck down large amounts of greasy food, others inject massive amounts of anabolic steroids. You can't reason with these people.
It's like this 350lb slob that I work with. This dude eats a full meal every couple hours. He's got edema in his legs and has been having heart palpitations. The doctors told him that he's got to change his diet and lifestyle immediately. He says, "Nobody's gonna tell me what to do with my body but me!!!!" Then he plows down a big-ass sloppy hoagie. We all just looked around at each other quietly, thinking this guy could drop dead at any second here.
I imagine it's the same with these delusional "mass monsters," doing what they do without any regard for their health. In the end they're no healthier than the obese whales despite being involved in the supposed "fitness" community.
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This is pure bro science, but I know many lifers with kids. Most have daughters for some reason
both my kids are boys, and both were conceived during heavy cycles (min of 3g/wk of test alone, plus other stuff)... after two 5000iu shots of HCG 1 week apart.
(yes, had fertility test.. both mine. lol)
hope my next is a daughter though. lol
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you gotta look at WHY many bodybuilders are bodybuilders in the first place.
a lot were either fat or skinny as kids... some were picked on for being fat or skinny.
then they start lifting weights and get POSITIVE attention. it's an ego-thing... then it's a natural progression and you CONTROL IT 100%.
when you're a football player, and you run fast, break blocks, and lay out rb's and wr's, maybe get a sack or two, you get POSITIVE attention as well, but there's only SO MUCH you can do that's within your control.. only SO FAST you can run or SO HARD you can hit, and only SO LONG you can play (even if u turn pro)... there's a lot that's out of your control.
with bodybuilding, it's ALL IN YOUR CONTROL. you control how you look... how big you get, how lean and grainy and freaky you are, how wide your back is, how round and balloon-like your shoulders are, ect... you control it by how much drugs you take, how much you eat, what you eat, ect... (and training plays a part.. lol)... you CONTROL everything that gets you positive attention. it's easy to get addicted to it..... even if the attention isn't really "positive", it's still attention (like kovacs, palumbo, branch, jp fux, ruhl, gaspari, ect...).
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Here in develops a feeling if invincibility and with this a feeling of detachment from any serious medical woes. Happens in everyday life: bodybuilder with no insurance but needs to have an umbilical hernia repaired BUT NO INSURANCE; bodybuilder who has gyno and no insurance and ends up paying cash for a botched surgery avoiding competent alternatives. ( True stories )
No insurance= disaster
A fucked up physician = disaster
Feeling of invincibility and arrogance= disaster
Advice: if you use or have used get a physical yearly from a qualified physician// blood work, CxR, EKG at least yearly. Know your doctor.
Maybe there would be no real need to PIP.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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Here in develops a feeling if invincibility and with this a feeling of detachment from any serious medical woes. Happens in everyday life: bodybuilder with no insurance but needs to have an umbilical hernia repaired BUT NO INSURANCE; bodybuilder who has gyno and no insurance and ends up paying cash for a botched surgery avoiding competent alternatives. ( True stories )
No insurance= disaster
A fucked up physician = disaster
Feeling of invincibility and arrogance= disaster
Advice: if you use or have used get a physical yearly from a qualified physician// blood work, CxR, EKG at least yearly. Know your doctor.
Maybe there would be no real need to PIP.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
How would you define "qualified"? Is a PCP knowledgeable enough?
Would you recommend coming clean to your doctor, or is that usually a bad idea?
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you gotta look at WHY many bodybuilders are bodybuilders in the first place.
a lot were either fat or skinny as kids... some were picked on for being fat or skinny.
then they start lifting weights and get POSITIVE attention. it's an ego-thing... then it's a natural progression and you CONTROL IT 100%.
when you're a football player, and you run fast, break blocks, and lay out rb's and wr's, maybe get a sack or two, you get POSITIVE attention as well, but there's only SO MUCH you can do that's within your control.. only SO FAST you can run or SO HARD you can hit, and only SO LONG you can play (even if u turn pro)... there's a lot that's out of your control.
with bodybuilding, it's ALL IN YOUR CONTROL. you control how you look... how big you get, how lean and grainy and freaky you are, how wide your back is, how round and balloon-like your shoulders are, ect... you control it by how much drugs you take, how much you eat, what you eat, ect... (and training plays a part.. lol)... you CONTROL everything that gets you positive attention. it's easy to get addicted to it..... even if the attention isn't really "positive", it's still attention (like kovacs, palumbo, branch, jp fux, ruhl, gaspari, ect...).
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How would you define "qualified"? Is a PCP knowledgeable enough?
Would you recommend coming clean to your doctor, or is that usually a bad idea?
1-- run a check on the physician by going through the State Medical Board website. Find out where he went to school, ancillary training like fellowships, and how long he has been in practice.
2-- PCPs are GPs or internists and are fine.
3-- never volunteer any information about use unless it becomes obvious and/or is life or death issue. Seriously once your M.D. puts a blood pressure cuff on your arm and checks out your biceps, or asks you to take off your shirt, he would have to be nuts not to know whether you are using gear. Lol
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
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To be honest i don,t believe Greg did anything out of the ordinary in terms of drug usage amongst pro bodybuilders. Unless you have ever seen the man in person you have no appreciation for just how massive he is. Hands are the size of baseball mits just structurally a massive human. Did drugs contribute to his untimely demise who knows. In the end the guy lived his life was an ifbb pro, adonis is posting ramblings on getbig still trying to determine if "a calorie is just a calorie
(http://malemuscle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Greg-Kovacs-Arnold-Classic-D184.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4695/08yw4ra7.jpg)
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in the 70's they asked every Olympic athlete from every sport ' if you could take a pill that would gaurentee you a gold medal, but you would die five years later, what would you do?'. apparently over 90% said they would take it.
Shit I would have been the one that would have asked what if I wanted a bronze medal instead?
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Its just the choice of life. Nothing more.
I have plan to be look good until 90 years old at least. But hey..maybe i die today.who knows.
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"If you can't find something to live for, than you best find something to die for"
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I really would like to know what goes through someone like Nick Toscani, a serious steroid user, when he reads about Kovacs etc...
I bet he thinks he is "doing it all correctly" and that he doesn`t have any "genetic history" of heart disease etc... :D
It is well known in many forms of competitive sports that elite athletes are willing to kill themselves in order to win:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/phys-ed-will-olympic-athletes-dope-if-they-know-it-might-kill-them/?_r=0 (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/phys-ed-will-olympic-athletes-dope-if-they-know-it-might-kill-them/?_r=0)
"There’s a well-known survey in sports, known as the Goldman Dilemma. For it, a researcher, Bob Goldman, began asking elite athletes in the 1980s whether they would take a drug that guaranteed them a gold medal but would also kill them within five years. More than half of the athletes said yes. When he repeated the survey biannually for the next decade, the results were always the same. About half of the athletes were quite ready to take the bargain."
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It is well known in many forms of competitive sports that elite athletes are willing to kill themselves in order to win:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/phys-ed-will-olympic-athletes-dope-if-they-know-it-might-kill-them/?_r=0 (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/phys-ed-will-olympic-athletes-dope-if-they-know-it-might-kill-them/?_r=0)
"There’s a well-known survey in sports, known as the Goldman Dilemma. For it, a researcher, Bob Goldman, began asking elite athletes in the 1980s whether they would take a drug that guaranteed them a gold medal but would also kill them within five years. More than half of the athletes said yes. When he repeated the survey biannually for the next decade, the results were always the same. About half of the athletes were quite ready to take the bargain."
Problem for Greg was that he was not "elite". He was as structurally flawed as a three legged giraffe.
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if living your life means that you have to die so young for such a vanity sport, or whatever you wanna call it, and leaving your loved ones behind with broken hearts, I call this selfish...you are a selfish individual
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If I had a friend or family member doing what they were doing, I would be absolutely brutal to them about their choice. It seems that nobody ever gave a fuck really about these people. You don`t just let someone continually kill themselves if you actually care about them.
Someone in your family should teach you to have some human decency and stfu for a bit until the man is buried.
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kovacs, nasser, atwood etc preferred to die big than be ridiculed for looking like normal human beings here on getbig. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to this ridiculous site.
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in the 70's they asked every Olympic athlete from every sport ' if you could take a pill that would gaurentee you a gold medal, but you would die five years later, what would you do?'. apparently over 90% said they would take it.
I heard the Joe Rogan interview with Chael Sonnen. His quote was "I would give my life for the opportunity to fight Silva one more time for a rematch."
Some dudes put winning literally above all else.
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natural selection.
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A lot of people in this thread scolding others for how they want to live their lives. Especially a lot of the "liberal" posters. ::)
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A lot of people in this thread scolding others for how they want to live their lives. Especially a lot of the "liberal" posters. ::)
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Yes, living your life by dying. Makes perfect sense. I personally don't care what anyone does to themselves, but that is not going to stop me from having an opinion on it. Why should it?
The same rational can be used for school shooters and knockout game participants. They are all just "living their lives" doing something they love.
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Yes, living your life by dying. Makes perfect sense.
We're all slowly dying...why would you care if someone wants to get there quicker?
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We're all slowly dying...why would you care if someone wants to get there quicker?
I don't. But I can have an opinion on it.
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I don't. But I can have an opinion on it.
At the end of the day none of our opinions really matter...
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At the end of the day none of our opinions really matter...
They do to bodybuilders who compete. They are trying to impress someone other than themselves.
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They do to bodybuilders who compete. They are trying to impress someone other than themselves.
In part that's probably why they chose death. I admire the guys who do a complete 180 like dillet and get over their illness...
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Yes, living your life by dying. Makes perfect sense. I personally don't care what anyone does to themselves, but that is not going to stop me from having an opinion on it. Why should it?
The same rational can be used for school shooters and knockout game participants. They are all just "living their lives" doing something they love.
Dumb argument; possibly your dumbest I've ever read and I consider you an intelligent person.
Reason: VICTIMLESS CRIME
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A lot of people in this thread scolding others for how they want to live their lives. Especially a lot of the "liberal" posters. ::)
ah the liberals always realy only mean themselves, adn the conservatives realy just mean their own business.
doesnt count for others.
its legal to hurt yourself,and thts fine.
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In part that's probably why they chose death. I admire the guys who do a complete 180 like dillet and get over their illness...
you always told me in pms, you wish you could just get rid of your dillet-esque size, i can confirm 8)
but , heres the other side of the coin.
in summer on hot day i went to some shop to buy tshirt tanktop, and tried them on shirtless right in the middle of the shop.
now you know, id usualy say the girl that works there will have a blueprint for masturbation for a whole while, and ppl would think its a "joke".
well,today i went to the same shop, same girl there, as she realizes its me(this time clothed,bc its freezing temps),her knees go inward, most likely to stop the vaginal fluid to run down her whole legs, she puts head downward a little bit and ask you been here this summer?
i say "ah you remember(haha offc she does)", then soon later she asks if i want to try something on, obviously wishing to see me shirtless again.
my back is unshaven and resembles a gorilla, but front is shaven, so i did her the favour and gave her another blueprint.
was a solid 6, good enough(i leave the 10s to the getbig yacht owners,stockmarket experts).
is it worth it?haha hell yes ;D ;D
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I now see how you got the handle uberbitch, getbig is obviously where you take all you're anger out for being a loser in real life. You get off by judging people, that speaks volumes
Don't let this kind of nonsense get to you. If they weren't insanely jealous they wouldn't even acknowledge you. Who really gives a damn what anyone else is doing to their body? But it does seem extremely odd to me that a grown men who obviously don't train - could spend SO much time on a site named GetBig? Lol how in the world can they work or have a social life with tens of thousands of posts - lol... The sad thing is that in "real life" they are timid little fellows that truly NEED this place...
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good thread TA
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good thread TA
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Dumb argument; possibly your dumbest I've ever read and I consider you an intelligent person.
Reason: VICTIMLESS CRIME
Unlike you, I don't consider drug usage of any kind a crime.
Hope this helps. I would classify it as a victimless hobby whereas you call it a crime.
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What if you're concerned with maintaining fertility?
Also what do you say to George Farrah who has every athlete come off between cycles for multiple reasons?
1. If you are concerned you'll be the 1% of people who become infertile, don't juice ever.
2. I hardly think the difference between going off cold turkey and cruising on TRT would make any difference as far as repairing the body goes.
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Unlike you, I don't consider drug usage of any kind a crime.
Hope this helps. I would classify it as a victimless hobby whereas you call it a crime.
Your Government does.
Anyways, youre arguing Semantics; you know what I meant bro. I thought you would have a better rebuttal but I think you realize your own contradictions on this matter.
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A lot of holy than thou BS in this thread.
Loads of people do things that are potentially dangerous, drive racing cars for a hobby, go parachuting or sky diving, smoke, drink whatever else.
You can't go through life living in a bubble not doing anything that may have risks attached. I enjoy lifting weights ,I enjoy it more with a bit of juice.
What are you gonna do, live life a monk and then get cancer at 50 anyway, and regret not doing the things you wanted to because you didn't want to put yourself at any risk.
And there may be a lot of steroid abusers that end up with health problems or die young, but there are way more that go on to live a long life.
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A lot of holy than thou BS in this thread.
Loads of people do things that are potentially dangerous, drive racing cars for a hobby, go parachuting or sky diving, smoke, drink whatever else.
You can't go through life living in a bubble not doing anything that may have risks attached. I enjoy lifting weights ,I enjoy it more with a bit of juice.
What are you gonna do, live life a monk and then get cancer at 50 anyway, and regret not doing the things you wanted to because you didn't want to put yourself at any risk.
And there may be a lot of steroid abusers that end up with health problems or die young, but there are way more that go on to live a long life.
I see we have an intellectual here.
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They got a lot further than a lot of other people did. There are plenty of guys who did as much gear that no one has ever heard of that are now living shitty, unhealthy, meaningless existences. They too will die short lives but no one will even notice. And so what if they were selfish? All outwardly "successful" people are selfish. U don't get to the top by worrying about others. U think Arnold's ever worried about anyone other than himself?
there s a middle ground, balance to be found, yes you need to live for yourself, but also for other, significant ones. You need to do both. If you only live for yourself and dont have kids, you end alone.
If you live only for yourself and have kids, they ll be destroyed. So you have to live for yourself and have kids a woman and live for them. At some point in life living for others gets more important, wen taking care of newborns , raising kids or helping a depressed loved one. The path is very hard, but all other paths dont get you anywhere anyway.
Look at arnold and his desmise...seriously how can you admire that. Also lets see how his kids end.
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Ask Harrison Pope..
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
what about all the fast food you claim to eat?
you think you're healthy just because you're thin?
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what about all the fast food you claim to eat?
you think you're healthy just because you're thin?
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he s healthier than them it s a fact, and people who ve been thin all life long last longer it s a fact too.
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there s a middle ground, balance to be found, yes you need to live for yourself, but also for other, significant ones. You need to do both. If you only live for yourself and dont have kids, you end alone.
If you live only for yourself and have kids, they ll be destroyed. So you have to live for yourself, have kids a woman and live for them. The path is very hard, but all other paths dont get you anywhere anyway.
Look at arnold and his desmise...seriously how can you admire that. Also lets see how his kids end.
what demise? you only call it a demise because for the first time in arnold's extraordinary life things didn't exactly go his way, and like you admit you take pleasure in seeing bad things happen to people especially when they have a better life than you
he's still getting paid millions to make movies and he's banging a much younger woman
his kids are now adults and don't need mommy and daddy to be "together" even when they clearly weren't happy with each other
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he s healthier than them it s a fact, and people who ve been thin all life long last longer it s a fact too.
yes thin people in general are healthier, but there is nothing healthy about regularly eating fast food
you don't have to be fat to have high cholesterol and heart problems
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there s a middle ground, balance to be found, yes you need to live for yourself, but also for other, significant ones. You need to do both. If you only live for yourself and dont have kids, you end alone.
If you live only for yourself and have kids, they ll be destroyed. So you have to live for yourself and have kids a woman and live for them. At some point in life living for others gets more important, wen taking care of newborns , raising kids or helping a depressed loved one. The path is very hard, but all other paths dont get you anywhere anyway.
Look at arnold and his desmise...seriously how can you admire that. Also lets see how his kids end.
Arnold has the same mentality he did when he was in his 20's. He might not show it but I think hes a lonely man.
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yes thin people in general are healthier, but there is nothing healthy about regularly eating fast food
you don't have to be fat to have high cholesterol and heart problems
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Proof?
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what demise? you only call it a demise because for the first time in arnold's extraordinary life things didn't exactly go his way, and like you admit you take pleasure in seeing bad things happen to people especially when they have a better life than you
he's still getting paid millions to make movies and he's banging a much younger woman
his kids are now adults and don't need mommy and daddy to be "together" even when they clearly weren't happy with each other
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Most men would do the same if they had the power and wealth that arnold has. Probably only got with her for status in the first place...after all is said and done arnie is cumming day and night!
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he s healthier than them it s a fact, and people who ve been thin all life long last longer it s a fact too.
hell fuck no its not.
theres thin ppl with metabolic syndrome, or fatty liver.
its absolutely not a fact that thin ppl last longer, not as far cardiovascular diseases go.its the exact oposite, the thin with little muscle are more prone to problems and death, the pure fatsos, same thing, the ones who got muscle and plenty of fat are the "healthiest"
hope this helps, this is the result of scientifical studies, i can cite them if need be, but i dont feel like goign through the book again.
theres even a medical term for thin people who are ill inside.
earli spartialy right, fast food, esp if overeating is the case(too many calories),is absolutely catastrophic on the liver,cholesterol and a whole chainreaction of followup problems.
however,keeping the calories low and trainign does reduce the damage.
heres one thing, on little bit supplement and clean diet, cholesterol parameters perfect.
on no supplements and 1 little dietary treat a day, something like 1 icecream, cholesterol parameters out of whack.
there is no asking for evidence or anything.read the books from the best experts ont he fields and simply go to doctor and have full bloodwork checked.esp part 2 is more than enough proof.
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Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics? Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons? What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?
What is wrong with them is that they are dead. Not much you can do about that after it's happened.
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germanys next topmodel
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What is wrong with them is that they are dead. Not much you can do about that after it's happened.
Nobody outside pro bodybuilding world cares about it, so ?.
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germanys next topmodel
Lovely teeth and eyes, to be fair!
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his kids are now adults and don't need mommy and daddy to be "together" even when they clearly weren't happy with each other
man you re dumb, ignorant. Yeah great example for kids; i stayed with your mom for you, but i hated every minute of it... will clearely motivate inspire them to find someone and stick with her right? You guys are so fucking stupid it's just incredible. Oh well, no wonder you have such losers as heroes and role models.
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man you re dumb, ignorant. Yeah great example for kids; i stayed with your mom for you, but i hated every minute of it... will clearely motivate inspire them to find someone and stick with her right? You guys are so fucking stupid it's just incredible. Oh well, no wonder you have such losers as heroes and role models.
we don't know what type of relationship arnold had with maria, all we know is he slept around and all legit alpha males have had multiple partners since the dawn of time
you always say that humans are animals, if you believe that than you should realize the alpha never only fucks one female
rich and famous men will never be loyal, a man is never loyal when he has endless options and as a kennedy maria should know that as well as anybody, should've married a regular guy if she wanted loyalty but as a kennedy she is "above" that
arnold has been nothing but a success his entire life, he has always been there for his kids and they will continue to live off his wealth and probably have plenty of opportunities based on the name arnold gave them, we should all be so lucky to have a father like that and if they hate him it's because they are spoiled dumb little brats that don't know how shitty others have it
if he's a loser than who the fuck is a winner?
as for heroes and role models, at least we don't admire some imaginary person in the sky
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man you re dumb, ignorant. Yeah great example for kids; i stayed with your mom for you, but i hated every minute of it... will clearely motivate inspire them to find someone and stick with her right? You guys are so fucking stupid it's just incredible. Oh well, no wonder you have such losers as heroes and role models.
lol.
straight up ruthless. :D
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man you re dumb, ignorant. Yeah great example for kids; i stayed with your mom for you, but i hated every minute of it... will clearely motivate inspire them to find someone and stick with her right? You guys are so fucking stupid it's just incredible. Oh well, no wonder you have such losers as heroes and role models.
Dude, you can have an opinion without being a hateful asshat. Really, there no need to put people down for thinking differently than you.
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Proof?
colin cowherd
6'2 180 lbs under 50 years old and always exercised and ate relatively healthy, always vocal about how disgusting fat people are
he had a mild heart attack a few years ago
(http://www.randomhouse.com/hp-banner-art/images/crown_youherdme_111113_banner.jpg)
do you really think it's healthy to regularly eat fast food as long as you aren't fat?
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lol.
straight up ruthless. :D
how's this for "ruthless"
hey uberman at least arnold was there for his children
we can't say the same about your daddy ;D
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Sudden death from drug abuse (any kind ) = worth it
Suffering for many years before you die (dialysis ,organ transplant ,extreme pain ........etc ) = not worth it
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how's this for "ruthless"
hey uberman at least arnold was there for his children
we can't say the same about your daddy ;D
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;D
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colin cowherd
6'2 180 lbs under 50 years old and always exercised and ate relatively healthy, always vocal about how disgusting fat people are
he had a mild heart attack a few years ago
(http://www.randomhouse.com/hp-banner-art/images/crown_youherdme_111113_banner.jpg)
do you really think it's healthy to regularly eat fast food as long as you aren't fat?
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How does this relate to fast food? ???
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colin cowherd
6'2 180 lbs under 50 years old and always exercised and ate relatively healthy, always vocal about how disgusting fat people are
he had a mild heart attack a few years ago
(http://www.randomhouse.com/hp-banner-art/images/crown_youherdme_111113_banner.jpg)
do you really think it's healthy to regularly eat fast food as long as you aren't fat?
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Oh I see...Eating "healthy" is bad since this guy did so and died at age 50.
Looks to me this is evidence in my favor, not yours.
Hope this helps. :D
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colin cowherd
6'2 180 lbs under 50 years old and always exercised and ate relatively healthy, always vocal about how disgusting fat people are
he had a mild heart attack a few years ago
(http://www.randomhouse.com/hp-banner-art/images/crown_youherdme_111113_banner.jpg)
do you really think it's healthy to regularly eat fast food as long as you aren't fat?
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Now its gotten even stranger.
The guy you posted, Colin Cowherd, is still alive. Oops!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Cowherd
(http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/wp-content/slideshow/2013/10/15-most-hated-sports-broadcasters/medium/Colin-Cowherd.jpg)
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Lovely teeth and eyes, to be fair!
to be even more fair, check the fashionable eyebrows, the man goes with the times ;D
yah, che made a good point, sudden death over long illness.
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I see we have an intellectual here.
I'm far from being intellectual. But I would take a bet that I earn more money than you, own a nicer house than you and have a better life than you. So for all intents and purposes, I'm smarter than you.
It is very obvious from your posts, that you are one of life's victims, someone who has been fucked over by life and left cynical and bitter and full of negativity. You have nothing positive to say about anything or anyone.
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Still, it doesnt or wont prevent millions of dumb people to keep following the same path.
Having a body dysmorphia has nothing to do with intelligence. There are doctors, lawyers, managers who are competitive BBs or take it to the extreme and none of them are dumb.
Being prone to a body dismorphia has nothing to do with your educational background, your social status or your sexual orientation. It can cath anyone.
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LOl I admire your passion but give it another 5 or 6 years, a kid or two, people who love you and rely on you. Body dismorphia will take the back seat. Nasser, Gregg and many others who passed never had kids and shitty relationships. No coincidence.
This. Bah!
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Oh I see...Eating "healthy" is bad since this guy did so and died at age 50.
Looks to me this is evidence in my favor, not yours.
Hope this helps. :D
he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that
and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you
the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"
it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think
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he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that
and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you
the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"
it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think
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he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that
and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you
the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"
it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think
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skinny people are more likely to have FATAL heart attacks then bigger people
this leads to the theory that heart attack has to do with a number of factors having to do with energy via different pathways
for the sake of time, ill simplify. skinny people die from heart attacks more often because there body lacks the nutritional supply needed to keep the heart going. fat people have more storage of vitamins to keep it going after a heart attack
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skinny people are more likely to have FATAL heart attacks then bigger people
this leads to the theory that heart attack has to do with a number of factors having to do with energy via different pathways
for the sake of time, ill simplify. skinny people die from heart attacks more often because there body lacks the nutritional supply needed to keep the heart going. fat people have more storage of vitamins to keep it going after a heart attack
I'd rather be lean and take my chances then be fat.