do they cause back pain? shit. because my back has been hurting.
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(
my back is hurting thoracolumbar fascia and erector spinae on the right side
Lard Homogayass. Pip.
small price to pay for eating all that meat
Cumswappa, any chance your mom could suck this little bastard out ?
Why, your boyfriend can't get the job done?He's stocking the shelves at the local 7-11 tonight! Hee hee.i keep telling the wife that sex takes my mind off the pain I will let ya know how that goes.
;D
And I gave a brother who has been shot and stabbed and said kidney stones were worse. Sorry man.
He's stocking the shelves at the local 7-11 tonight! Hee hee.i keep telling the wife that sex takes my mind off the pain I will let ya know how that goes.
Maybe you could just blow the stone out. Tell her you read on the internets that a great bj was the best cure. And that if the first one doesnt work, repeat every day. 8)
Sounds like a solid plan to me
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(
Go to a urologist.
While at home, drink 2 liters of water per day (throughout the day of course) and it could help to flush those stones out.
Take both Advil and Tylenol (They work on different pathways and can be taken concurrently). With Tylenol, stay under 4 grams per day. With Advil, stay under 3200mg per day.
If you live in Europe or Mexico, go to your local pharmacy and ask the pharmacist for some Flomax (or any other alpha blocker) that can help relax & dilate the tubes (ureters) that transport urine from your kidneys to your bladder, which can then lead to the expulsion of the stone(s).
If the three options above fail to provide you with any relief, log out of GetBig.com and go to your local emergency room.
"1"
When the pain gets bad enough I have actually dry heaved a few times even after 2 Vicodin
Pffffft. My advices was better.
Maybe you could just blow the stone out. Tell her you read on the internets that a great bj was the best cure. And that if the first one doesnt work, repeat every day. 8)
(http://healthfavo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/back-muscle-anatomy.jpg)
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(
Go to a urologist.
While at home, drink 2 liters of water per day (throughout the day of course) and it could help to flush those stones out.
Take both Advil and Tylenol (They work on different pathways and can be taken concurrently). With Tylenol, stay under 4 grams per day. With Advil, stay under 3200mg per day.
If you live in Europe or Mexico, go to your local pharmacy and ask the pharmacist for some Flomax (or any other alpha blocker) that can help relax & dilate the tubes (ureters) that transport urine from your kidneys to your bladder, which can then lead to the expulsion of the stone(s).
If the three options above fail to provide you with any relief, log out of GetBig.com and go to your local emergency room.
"1"
Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy can break up those stones. What is generally unknown by the lay public is that the shockwave is like taking a punch from a heavyweight boxer.
When the pain gets bad enough I have actually dry heaved a few times even after 2 Vicodindude get off the fuckin meat man, have you even thought about it?
I have had two. I passed them like a man.....and cried like a baby.
dude get off the fuckin meat man, have you even thought about it?
I don't eat that much red meat falcon, mostly fish and chicken and some lean pork. Perhaps you could bust this little bastard up with some of those reptilian thermal sound waves from your flying saucer or some loud Jethro Tull? ???
Solid Rep! This has been my plan from the get go after my first trip to the ER. I see the Urologist today at 3. Being the day before thanksgiving my guess is he will say "yup you have a 4mm stone, lets schedule you to come back next week from some shock waves to break it down." I might go Tyson on him and bite his ear off at this point.
If it ends up that way, at least you know you will definitely pass the stones. Shock wave therapy is better than having to go to surgery for removal of the stones.
Good luck with this and please let us know how you progress.
All my best!
"1"
Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy can break up those stones. What is generally unknown by the lay public is that the shockwave is like taking a punch from a heavyweight boxer.
Im hoping this is the route he will go, the idea of having someone go through my pecker to get this little bastard isn't so appealing!
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(4 seperate times pretty painful every time. first time doc had to spear fish to get it out. no picnic fer sure. :'( :'( :'( pic of my first stone. ouch.
as usual no one giving any useful advice besides see a doc and take your meds ???If the stone is small enough to pass, you just have to drink lots of water and try and pass it! That's why you get a KUB! X ray of Kidney, Urethra and Bladder,to see where the stones are and how big! If to big Lipotripsy!
If the stone is small enough to pass, you just have to drink lots of water and try and pass it! That's why you get a KUB! X ray of Kidney, Urethra and Bladder,to see where the stones are and how big! If to big Lipotripsy!who says you have to pass any stone some dickhead doctor?, just cut out all your meat in your diet, eat fruits, veggies beans, potatoes
If the stone is small enough to pass, you just have to drink lots of water and try and pass it! That's why you get a KUB! X ray of Kidney, Urethra and Bladder,to see where the stones are and how big! If to big Lipotripsy!That's the idea bro! The stone is 3.74mm which isn't all that big. Right now it's close to my bladder and will hopefully drop in soon. I feel like I have to piss 24/7 which is getting a little annoying
who says you have to pass any stone some dickhead doctor?, just cut out all your meat in your diet, eat fruits, veggies beans, potatoes
i keep repeating myself, am in perfect health yet everyone else is falling apart, im just trying to help
Anyone else ever have one of these SOBs! Worst pain I have ever experienced in my life bar none! Ive been trying to pass a 4mm stone for 2 weeks now and go back to the docs tomorrow for more MRIs and tests. These little bastards just laugh at Vicodin! >:(
Kidney stones may form when the normal balance of water, salts, minerals, and other substances found in urine changes. How this balance changes determines the type of kidney stone you have. Most kidney stones are calcium-type-they form when the calcium levels in your urine change.
Factors that change your urine balance include:
Not drinking enough water. When you don't drink enough water, the salts, minerals, and other substances in the urine can stick together and form a stone. This is the most common cause of kidney stones.
Medical conditions. Many medical conditions can affect the normal balance and cause stones to form. Examples include gout and inflammatory bowel disease, such as Crohn's disease.
More commonly, kidney stones can run in families, as stones often occur in family members over several generations.
In rare cases, a person forms kidney stones because the parathyroid glands produce too much of a hormone, which leads to higher calcium levels and possibly calcium kidney stones.
Not that this helps when you already have these little buggers, but thought you might be interested in what actually causes kidney stones.
I read a few other articles on kidney stones. Nothing points to eating meat as being a factor. More importantly, not eating meat definitely isn't going to make them go away. Falcon means well, but he lacks medical knowledge and experience.
Preventing one is great Johnny but I already have one that's almost out. It has to come out, it can stay in my ureter forever. Besides man you look like you've been on a steady diet of mayonnaise sandwiches and twinkeys forgive me if I don't take your advice.what im sure you dont look much better than me if you do post up a viideo or pic you need to take my advice
I'm 41 this is my first stone. My pcp said my love of iced tea probably played a roll. Off to the docs see you cats later tonight!i had my first at 38 figured it took 38 years to form so i'm good till i'm 76/ not the case, still going thru issues with this doc just recently ordered a test where you piss in a bottle for 24 hours a lab analizes it and makes recommendations. won't know till dec 16 of the results.
i had my first at 38 figured it took 38 years to form so i'm good till i'm 76/ not the case, still going thru issues with this doc just recently ordered a test where you piss in a bottle for 24 hours a lab analizes it and makes recommendations. won't know till dec 16 of the results.
Kidney stone, Atlas stone. Kaz does not care.That's what that guy feels like when it starts moving!
i had my first at 38 figured it took 38 years to form so i'm good till i'm 76/ not the case, still going thru issues with this doc just recently ordered a test where you piss in a bottle for 24 hours a lab analizes it and makes recommendations. won't know till dec 16 of the results.That's exactly what I said when I got my first one at 43!
So what causes these stones...tell me now so I know what to avoid.
just avoid eating meat you dumbasses
its that simple
thats why they invented tums for the calcium to settle the gut after you ate a shitload of a pork roast or steak
when you eat meat you use up alot of calcium to neutralize the acid pulling from your bone marrow, and your kidneys cant deal with all of this calcium draw at once thus you get residual calcium aka kidney stones you dumb fucks
this is why vance basilldrum is so miserable and stupid and is only posts for entertainment value and obsesses over silly things like blue font and blue stars, hes been eating meat all his life , he doesnt get heme-iron hes not sure what ails him
Vegetarians also get kidney stones, Oxalate kidney stones are actually more common in vegetarians and vegans than they are in meat diets. Also, fat people are at a higher risk of developing kidney stones. :Dan oxalate kidney stone is the easyest to fix
You dumb falcon fuck. I know lots of vegetarians and vegans that have had kidney stones.Holy shit they must be dumb to not drink water
Sugar and lack of hydration greatly contribute too.
Trying to get bodybuilders to quit meat is like trying to take away twinkies from a fatty.
What about calcium from milk and cheese?it doesnt hurt you especially if you drink a gallon a day of water
(http://1000funnypictures.com/wp-content/uploads/Old-Bodybuilder-WTF-Pictures.jpg)holy fuck garantee the dude on the right shits once every 3 days, drinks zero water only hard liquor and alot of foods
Falcon has always controlled minds here, old fucks as Basile trying to uproot real facts living off a Mr Canada 1970 wtf? Still listen to Elvis music.
BASS-ILL
its an issue he cant adress, he is cursed by his own last name. some can use there last name as a blessing some lose the battle and end up being cursed by it
i wonder what it is like to be a BASS-ILL person. he must be miserable. this is why i want to help him
That's what that guy feels like when it starts moving!:)pic is of my second stone. ::)
BasIll is a miserable, bitter old man who should be enjoy his 'twilight' years but instead lingers around here be negative, contributing nothing and you're still trying to help him.
Quote from: Vince Basile on Today at 05:58:22 AM
Give me a break. No one is obligated to do what you say. People come here for a laugh and to find out about who wins the major titles. As a philosopher of science I do my duty to point out false theories and nonsense when I see it. Wiggs comes up with rubbish time after time. Falcon sounds like a crackpot. That is a fact. I don't have to discuss serious issues because this is a bodybuilding forum. It is not a philosophy forum.
(http://1000funnypictures.com/wp-content/uploads/Old-Bodybuilder-WTF-Pictures.jpg)
Both dead now
as usual no one giving any useful advice besides see a doc and take your meds ???
I've had a salivary gland stone pass that hurt like a son of a .......
I took a massive dumpage yesterday that was not very comfortable.
I passed a turd longer than Gandalf's staff a couple days back.
I've had one that flicked the bottom of my sack as I High-centered it in the bowl. It's like it was high-fiving me for my superior performance and production of this great monstocity.
about 4years ago i'd been having low back pain for a week. I thought I hurt a disk.
well, one Monday just before leaving for the gym, I take a piss.. I didn't have all the lights on and I could've swore my piss looked super dark, maybe it was the shadows or something.. oh well, I thought and went on my way.
I couldn't tell if my back was really hurt or what, since the pain was in the top of my glutes-area.. not realy the lumbar.
so I decide i'm gonna squat normal and if it's my lumbar/disc, well, i'll find out finally cuz it'll just fold me over.
so I hit 225 easy.. 315 easy.. 405 easy.. then I figure, well, no back pain, everything feels solid, and I decide to hit 530 or so for 5. piece of cake. I figure, well, it's not my back, because that would've folded me over.
(http://www.medivisuals.com/images/products/detail/R15237_03X.jpg)
my kidney stones were giving me horrific pain between my L5 and S1
funny story..damn man seek advice of a pro-fish-anal
about 4years ago i'd been having low back pain for a week. I thought I hurt a disk.
well, one Monday just before leaving for the gym, I take a piss.. I didn't have all the lights on and I could've swore my piss looked super dark, maybe it was the shadows or something.. oh well, I thought and went on my way.
I couldn't tell if my back was really hurt or what, since the pain was in the top of my glutes-area.. not realy the lumbar.
so I decide i'm gonna squat normal and if it's my lumbar/disc, well, i'll find out finally cuz it'll just fold me over.
so I hit 225 easy.. 315 easy.. 405 easy.. then I figure, well, no back pain, everything feels solid, and I decide to hit 530 or so for 5. piece of cake. I figure, well, it's not my back, because that would've folded me over.
so I go to take a piss, and i'll be goddamned if my piss didn't look like watered down ketchup!!! OOOOOooooK.... now that's not right. so I head to the hospital and tell the nurse "I think there's something wrong with me"... and explain I think my piss is a little dark. I'm thinking "holy fuck, my kidneys are failing.. years of trenbolone has finally caught up with me"... so I give them a urin sample and it comes out looking like a orange/red jello-cup.. and the nurse says "oh my god.. yea, that's a LOT of blood"... I ask her what the fuck do you mean???? ... then she says "oh,it's probably just a kidney stone".
Oh.... ok. the kidney stones had been traveling through the tubes and tearing up the lining and shit, causing bleeding.
they gave me a mesh-funnel to piss in to catch the stone and told me to drink 2 gals of water and i'll probably be up all night till it passes and i'll probably experience the worst pain of my life... so everytime I go to piss (which was like 12x that night)... i'm sitting down like a woman in anticipation of the "extreme pain"... well, finally by 5am, I take the last piss and look down in the funnel and see a little thing that looks like a piece of lint, and I go to take it out and shit!... it's the stone... id didn't even feel the goddamn thing! apparently i'd been pissing these things out for a couple days and had no idea.
then they did an MRI and saw a bunch of small stones.
gave me 3 options, 1 ultrasound, 2 cut me open from behind and take them out, or 3 go in with a tube through my cock and use a camera and claw to get them... #3 was the most painless they said.
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!
waking up from that surgery was the WORST pain I've ever had in my life.
8mg diluaid and 80mg of Morphine and I was STILL in pain. (8mg of diluaid is a HUGE amount)...AND they left a Stent in my urethra to prevent it from swelling shut, and I was supposed to go back in and have it removed 10 days later... so for 10days, every time I took a step, it felt like somebody was wacking my nuts with a tennis racket (best way I can describe it)... then they made a mistake in scheduling and the stent stayed in 3 days LONGer than it was supposed to and the stent started to heal INTO the tubing/urethera it was in... and to take it out they shove what looks like a bent coat hanger down the hold in my cock to pull and pull and pull till it came out. with NO FUCKING PAIN MEDS or Sedation.
NEVER EVER EVER doing that shit again... they'll have to cut me open.
it wasn't so much the kidney stones that hurt.. I could deal with that, but the arthroscopic surgery they did going up the tube in my cock to my kidneys that was painfull beyond words.
took 8 fucking mg's of Dilaludid and 80mgs of morphine before i was 'comfortable'.
3mg's of dilaludid alone would normally have my high as a fucking kite when i had pancreatitis.
in order of pain...
1- kidney stone surgery after-effects
2- pancreatitis
3- after-effects of cutting off part of my finger (the days/weeks after.. at the time i didn't feel anything)
4- laser surgery to repair torn/partially detached retina (like a red hot laser beam in your eye)
5- kidney stones
How'd you cut your finger off bro?
lol...
seriously.. I got it caught in a belt/pulley conveyor belt thing. was wearing "cut proof gloves" too... and still popped it right off. index finger.. chopped off right at the top joint. SOMEHOW the majority of it GREW FUCKING BACK. lol.. it was gone from the top joint on, but somehow a good centimeter or so has regrown, so now it's about 5mm shorter than my other index finger.
it wasn't so much the kidney stones that hurt.. I could deal with that, but the arthroscopic surgery they did going up the tube in my cock to my kidneys that was painfull beyond words.
took 8 fucking mg's of Dilaludid and 80mgs of morphine before i was 'comfortable'.
3mg's of dilaludid alone would normally have my high as a fucking kite when i had pancreatitis.
in order of pain...
1- kidney stone surgery after-effects
2- pancreatitis
3- after-effects of cutting off part of my finger (the days/weeks after.. at the time i didn't feel anything)
4- laser surgery to repair torn/partially detached retina (like a red hot laser beam in your eye)
5- kidney stones
small price to pay for eating all that meat
I passed one and it was awful. I came home from work early and drank 8 beers before I could start to dull the intense pain. I was hunched over the couch in agony and must have finally passed it later that day. I immediately dropped the iced tea I drank a lot after searching the net on info. Worst pain I've ever been in and I'm accident-prone so have been through a lot.
Small prize to pay for eating all that extra protein, just because you guys can't do your math. You need up to 2 grams per kilo of the lean bodyweight, not per pound which is twice as much ;D
What comes to those kidney stones, in civilized world they use acoustic pulse to broke them to sand, and you can piss them out without the pain. In USA thing like this cost backpack full of dollars, while we get it free of charge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shock_wave_lithotripsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shock_wave_lithotripsy)
Small prize to pay for eating all that extra protein, just because you guys can't do your math. You need up to 2 grams per kilo of the lean bodyweight, not per pound which is twice as much ;D
What comes to those kidney stones, in civilized world they use acoustic pulse to broke them to sand, and you can piss them out without the pain. In USA thing like this cost backpack full of dollars, while we get it free of charge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shock_wave_lithotripsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_shock_wave_lithotripsy)
Oh boy i don't even want to touch this comment. So the money came from where, the fairy fucking godmother?
i think its safe to say if you are passing kidney stones then you are doing everything wrong in terms of taking care of your bodyDING DING DING WINNER WINNER
DING DING DING WINNER WINNER
Well, if you know for advance that you are going to face situation like that and you have two options, 1. pay whole sum of 50-70 000$ at once or 2. pay 0.00002% more taxes through your life, which one you will choose? Our social security is for everyone, and it is paid by taxes, taken from everyone. So what? You don't have such thing, and when shit hit the fan, you are on your own. We maybe doesn't have the richest people in this world, but we have the healthiest people by far, compared to USA, so fuck you.
Well, if you know for advance that you are going to face situation like that and you have two options, 1. pay whole sum of 50-70 000$ at once or 2. pay 0.00002% more taxes through your life, which one you will choose? Our social security is for everyone, and it is paid by taxes, taken from everyone. So what? You don't have such thing, and when shit hit the fan, you are on your own. We maybe doesn't have the richest people in this world, but we have the healthiest people by far, compared to USA, so fuck you.
I passed a turd longer than Gandalf's staff a couple days back.
Wow there princess calm down. Why so butthurt? I make a lame joke about your idiotic comment that your health insurance is "free" and you flip out like any good liberal euro trash socialist dicksucker should. Nobody said you had a bad system, I just said it wasn't "Free". Now go to your "free" psychiatrist and get some xanax or tell him why you are such an uptight pillowbiter or something. Sheesh.
Who we? I agree that the U.S. is no the healthiest (from the standpoint of healthcare) nation in the world. If you are in a country that does it better, I would be interested to know which country that is. There are many.
Yes there are, aren't there? So I have plenty to choose from. Let say I am from EU, where is not even one country with worse health care than U.S, and that will be close enough. I could refer even some African countries, but you still miss the point if I do, so let say I am from Scandinavia. So fucking what? Are you going to put up some moronic rant how we are communist, how we work like slaves with small wagers and pay all our income as taxes? You know it isn't true so it doesn't work. What next? What will be your arguments? Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "to be wisely silent"?ropo do you feel kidney stones contribute to meat eating?
ropo do you feel kidney stones contribute to meat eating?
Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "to be wisely silent"?
Fucker still hasn't passed yet boys, thinking about getting it removed but oddly enough it hasn't hurt in about a week, there! I just jinxed myself!eat alot more meat if you think it will help, what will you do?
Yes there are, aren't there? So I have plenty to choose from. Let say I am from EU, where is not even one country with worse health care than U.S, and that will be close enough. I could refer even some African countries, but you still miss the point if I do, so let say I am from Scandinavia. So fucking what? Are you going to put up some moronic rant how we are communist, how we work like slaves with small wagers and pay all our income as taxes? You know it isn't true so it doesn't work. What next? What will be your arguments? Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "to be wisely silent"?
lol...
seriously.. I got it caught in a belt/pulley conveyor belt thing. was wearing "cut proof gloves" too... and still popped it right off. index finger.. chopped off right at the top joint. SOMEHOW the majority of it GREW FUCKING BACK. lol.. it was gone from the top joint on, but somehow a good centimeter or so has regrown, so now it's about 5mm shorter than my other index finger.
eat more meat=problem solved
Bro, can't they just bring in the ultrasound machine and break it up? That's what they did to me...still felt like pissing razor blades. I wouldn't wish that shit on no one. Hang tough man.
I only got it once when I was a young broke bodybuilder / rugby player and had to eat a shit load of eggs and honestly didn't keep my water intake up where it was supposed to be all the time.. Most of the eggs were hardboiled for convenience. Did you buy chance eat a lot of eggs and not drink a lot of water? Happened to a friend of mine as well I'm curious if there is a connection
you gotta be a moron to not drink a gallon a day
ropo do you feel kidney stones contribute to meat eating?
You need help.
You should heed your own advice and be wisely silent because you are making an idiot of yourself here.
At least I get it free of charge, while you, the village idiot, has to pay lot of money for it ;D
My point was simple. There is easy and efficient way to handle kidney stones, but it is out of your reach because it cost too much, because of your insane health care system. In which way I am making idiot of myself, other than telling the truth about the matter to the idiots, who doesn't comprehend that their system is rotten? And you are just stupid enough to fight for that rotten system, because you are brought up to believe it is only right system in this world. The fucking Cubans has better health care than average Americans, but they really deserve it. You don't, because you are an idiots ;D ::) ;D
At least I get it free of charge, while you, the village idiot, has to pay lot of money for it ;D
My point was simple. There is easy and efficient way to handle kidney stones, but it is out of your reach because it cost too much, because of your insane health care system. In which way I am making idiot of myself, other than telling the truth about the matter to the idiots, who doesn't comprehend that their system is rotten? And you are just stupid enough to fight for that rotten system, because you are brought up to believe it is only right system in this world. The fucking Cubans has better health care than average Americans, but they really deserve it. You don't, because you are an idiots ;D ::) ;D
One glass = 8 ounces (x) 6 glasses (minimum recommendation) = 48 ounces. No more than 10 glasses (80 ounces) is recommended because of the potential kidney damage.
^
?
If you weren't an idiot, you'd appreciate the fact that you are jumping to conclusions about me. For example you don't know what I fight for or don't fight for. You don't know what I believe is the right (healthcare) system. Honestly, you know nothing about me and yet you rant on like you do. This is why you are an idiot.
What I know about you, is enough. You live in the illusion, that you have a brains, what you don't have. That's why your screaming is futile. In my point of view, you are like a dog, barking in the courtyard, lot of noise but nothing to say. Why don't you use your time more fruitfully, and learn how to suck your own dick ???