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Title: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 10:24:49 AM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 10:25:49 AM
lololololololol

Yeah it's a lie. But what will be done to "end this farce"?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 05, 2013, 10:28:36 AM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

Leave the parenting to the parents Wiggs.  We got it covered.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 10:28:45 AM
lololololololol

Yeah it's a lie. But what will be done to "end this farce"?

Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.

Ok, but what will be done to bring this lie to an end? Petition? Picketing? Banners?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: wild willie on December 05, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.
don't be an insensitive prick......it is for the kids. you were probably one of those asshole kids that went around telling the younger kids not to believe in Santa.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Ok, but what will be done to bring this lie to an end? Petition? Picketing? Banners?

No,  as we all know Americans in General are pretty clueless, stupid sheep. The advertisers, entertainment industry and media would have to change the theme of Christmas little by little every year. A little here, a little there. And within a generation or two, you have a new Christmas.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 10:34:36 AM
No,  as we all know Americans in General are pretty clueless, stupid sheep. The advertisers, entertainment industry and media would have to change the theme of Christmas little by little every year. A little here, a little there. And within a generation or two, you have a new Christmas.

Goes broader than just America when looking at who's clueless. Humans in general ...

In America it would be very easy to switch ideas within a decade, seeing how powerfully connected people are to media, advertisements, etc
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
don't be an insensitive prick......it is for the kids. you were probably one of those asshole kids that went around telling the younger kids not to believe in Santa.

No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 10:37:16 AM
No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

New era of truth? The world strays further and further from every truth out there over time. Technology has played a part and may be to blame, as these lies are perpetuated easier and faster.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 05, 2013, 10:37:58 AM
No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

We do it with the bible  ???
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Mr. MB on December 05, 2013, 10:43:20 AM
I have been favored with the opportunity to have visited a dozen diffrerent countries/cultures from Haiti to France to Israel/West Bank. I have seen some odd (to me) traditions and beliefs practised by many peoples. We in America are no different when it comes to fairy tales to children or "believing" by adults. 1/6th of planet earth believes that Mohammed sat on his horse Barack and together they rose to Heaven. Do we mock them?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: wild willie on December 05, 2013, 10:48:42 AM
 get a grip.......it is for the kids....period paragraph......lighten up and don't get your panties in a wad!!
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: tommywishbone on December 05, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
You can't spell Santa without Satan.

Santa Claus
Legal claus
no underpants
Hail Satan
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: snx on December 05, 2013, 11:04:17 AM
When my daughter was born, I won. My wife agreed with me that we would tell her a more realistic version of Santa. It's not some fat guy who breaks into the house and leaves you an iPod. Santa represents the spirit of giving to others and helping your fellow man. We told her that people like to make up neat characters to help them tell a story, and Santa helps people understand why giving is good, but that there is no real man who lives at the north pole making barbie dolls for all the good little girls in the world. Know what? It went over very well with my daughter. She appreciated it...she's said so. Kids can be pretty smart. She's said stuff like "hey dad, you know if Santa were real, it wouldn't make sense. Because how come those kids in africa are always hungry. Why wouldn't they just ask Santa for food? If he was real, he'd bring it. I guess there really is no real santa". She told me this at age 5. Kids grow up a lot faster today than when I was young.

But I also caught a lot of shit from other parents/teachers/family about being a killjoy.

So I let my wife win with my son. He believes the whole Santa-brings-you-presents-inside-your-house thing. I have a standing agreement with my daughter that when my son stops believing, it better not be because she told him. If I find out, no more christmas presents for her.

Honestly, I hate having to lie to my son about it. Christmas is a wonderful time, and it has a good message for us all. But santa is about commercialization; I wanted my son to really appreciate what the spirit of the day was all about. When I was a kid, I remember my folks trying to get that message into my head; it didn't stick. All I cared about was that some fat guy would get into the house and bring me Castle Grayskull. I nodded to my family "oh yeah, I hope good things happen to poor people", but I didn't really care. I just cared about getting presents, and that's what the media told us kids to expect.

I just think I got it right with my daughter, and wrong with my son. The good news is, I'm going to wear down the wife this year about it and I think she'll crack.

And I agree with Wiggs' comment - the lie does undermine the role of a parent. I know it sounds heartless, but I truly believe this. I don't want to be in the habit of having my kids wonder if I'm telling the truth or just telling them a fairytale. 

Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Grape Ape on December 05, 2013, 11:06:03 AM
eh, it's fun.   They figure it out evenutally, then it's done.   No big deal.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Henda on December 05, 2013, 11:08:08 AM
Its just a bit of fun and makes it more magical for the kids.
They learn the truth eventually and have to play the same role when they have kids.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 05, 2013, 11:16:57 AM
I hate the commercialized Red and White Santa.  Do you know that the Red and White Santa was originally created by Coca Cola for their ads?  Santa use to wear green like the elves did as Santa is just an Elf.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Mitch on December 05, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
Why is the lie perpetuated? Because kids need to dream, they don't need to know about money, hard work, shitty jobs, financial crisis, taxes and other grown-up problems. This time will come fast enough. Give them a break for a few years.

oh, and shove your religious BS up your Nesquik box, no offense.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: OTHstrong on December 05, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.
no one views it as pagan, that is another perception altogether, the intentions are good here and kids have a thrill, I remembered getting made fun of and laughed at when I was a kid cause we were poor and could not afford to celebrate Christmas and it sucked, I will not take that away from my children.

If that is a lie then so is everything else we tell our kids for their own safety.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 11:20:34 AM
I don't know if you Christians know this, but the Bible tells us Hebrews this about Christmas...Jeremiah, Chapter 10 verse 4-5

1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good

Bing-bang-boom. It doesn't get any more clear than that. Read it and weep.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: CalvinH on December 05, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
I hate the commercialized Red and White Santa.  Do you know that the Red and White Santa was originally created by Coca Cola for their ads?  Santa use to wear green like the elves did as Santa is just an Elf.


Does the black Santa steal from the kids instead of giving to them ??? ;D
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: funk51 on December 05, 2013, 11:22:21 AM
because chicks are into red velvet.... :o :o :o
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 05, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.
You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

Fast forward 100 yrs.. "This is a new era of truth and god has no home here."
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 05, 2013, 11:39:07 AM
I don't know if you Christians know this, but the Bible tells us Hebrews this about Christmas...Jeremiah, Chapter 10 verse 4-5

1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good

Bing-bang-boom. It doesn't get any more clear than that. Read it and weep.

You take drugs and ride prostitutes, youre no Christian
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: viking1 on December 05, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oKRdXh5QW4I/TvlAp411qbI/AAAAAAAAYpI/aL7FoWm5wCs/s1600/0abadsanta.gif)
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Knooger on December 05, 2013, 11:45:06 AM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

Santa will be toast about the same time they do away with religion.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: wild willie on December 05, 2013, 11:55:23 AM
wiggs......you slay me......lying to kids???? you are just kidding, right?


lying is what nobama and the government do......again......it is just fun for the little kids......please tell me you are not serious about all this!!!
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2013, 11:56:26 AM
If it was Hebrew Claus would you care ???
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Wiggs on December 05, 2013, 11:58:31 AM
You take drugs and ride prostitutes, youre no Christian

You're right, I'm not a Christian. Christian's follow Pagan Holiday's under different names. I haven't had a whore in 2 years. I quit that.  And no I don't take drugs.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2013, 12:00:44 PM
What's wrong with Pagans?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 12:00:47 PM
You're right, I'm not a Christian. Christian's follow Pagan Holiday's under different names. I haven't had a whore in 2 years. I quit that.  And no I don't take drugs.

How long have you been clean? Any drugs including booze?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: SGT BARNES on December 05, 2013, 12:02:30 PM
why do you care?  i thought you said the world was ending...so what does it matter?         retard.



It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on December 05, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
You're right, I'm not a Christian. Christian's follow Pagan Holiday's under different names. I haven't had a whore in 2 years. I quit that.  And no I don't take drugs.

Another non Jew bullshit, what about those head tablets for yours depression  ;D, don't you remember.
So NO Amanda's pussy, oh no another minus in yours non-Jew life, so sad I am  :'( for you.
A U father of Anabolichalo  :)
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Rascal full on December 05, 2013, 12:15:34 PM
Kids should be left as innocent as possible for as long as possible. One day the reality of this wicked old world will set in so let them have fun first.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Notsonicemom on December 05, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
Wiggs

Have you ever seen a child light up Christmas morning? That's why lol. I'm dreading that I only have a year or two left until some  dumb classmate at school tells her the real deal but on the other hand I'll be glad the fat bearded bastard doesn't get credit for presents. Albeit the more expensive gifts are from me.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Orb on December 05, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
why do you care?  i thought you said the world was ending...so what does it matter?         retard.




lolololololololololololo l

Who said that?

Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

It's a ridiculous holiday based on commercialism and paganism. 
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: chaos on December 05, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
It's a ridiculous holiday based on commercialism and paganism. 
And?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Archer77 on December 05, 2013, 05:28:29 PM
Wiggs

Have you ever seen a child light up Christmas morning? That's why lol. I'm dreading that I only have a year or two left until some  dumb classmate at school tells her the real deal but on the other hand I'll be glad the fat bearded bastard doesn't get credit for presents. Albeit the more expensive gifts are from me.

Eventually wiggs will come to the conclusion the real Santa Claus was black and be all for it.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Natural Man on December 05, 2013, 05:47:58 PM
Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

Santa claus at its core is an old bishop who gave gifts to poor kids.

wiggs showing his ignorance again.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Natural Man on December 05, 2013, 05:49:44 PM
It's a ridiculous holiday based on commercialism and paganism.  
thats what it BECAME, again the origin is a bishop giving gifts to poor kids in scandinavian countries. Just like halloween, look at the origins.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.
About the only thing you and I agree on.


Your Jesus and god is the equivalent to Santa.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 05:59:28 PM
When my daughter was born, I won. My wife agreed with me that we would tell her a more realistic version of Santa. It's not some fat guy who breaks into the house and leaves you an iPod. Santa represents the spirit of giving to others and helping your fellow man. We told her that people like to make up neat characters to help them tell a story, and Santa helps people understand why giving is good, but that there is no real man who lives at the north pole making barbie dolls for all the good little girls in the world. Know what? It went over very well with my daughter. She appreciated it...she's said so. Kids can be pretty smart. She's said stuff like "hey dad, you know if Santa were real, it wouldn't make sense. Because how come those kids in africa are always hungry. Why wouldn't they just ask Santa for food? If he was real, he'd bring it. I guess there really is no real santa". She told me this at age 5. Kids grow up a lot faster today than when I was young.

But I also caught a lot of shit from other parents/teachers/family about being a killjoy.

So I let my wife win with my son. He believes the whole Santa-brings-you-presents-inside-your-house thing. I have a standing agreement with my daughter that when my son stops believing, it better not be because she told him. If I find out, no more christmas presents for her.

Honestly, I hate having to lie to my son about it. Christmas is a wonderful time, and it has a good message for us all. But santa is about commercialization; I wanted my son to really appreciate what the spirit of the day was all about. When I was a kid, I remember my folks trying to get that message into my head; it didn't stick. All I cared about was that some fat guy would get into the house and bring me Castle Grayskull. I nodded to my family "oh yeah, I hope good things happen to poor people", but I didn't really care. I just cared about getting presents, and that's what the media told us kids to expect.

I just think I got it right with my daughter, and wrong with my son. The good news is, I'm going to wear down the wife this year about it and I think she'll crack.

And I agree with Wiggs' comment - the lie does undermine the role of a parent. I know it sounds heartless, but I truly believe this. I don't want to be in the habit of having my kids wonder if I'm telling the truth or just telling them a fairytale. 


Awesome post.

When it comes down to it, the only reason why the myth is perpetuated is for the parents for whatever reason.  The child knows no different so its clearly the parents who enjoy the whole charade.  Its for them really and not the kids.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
eh, it's fun.   They figure it out evenutally, then it's done.   No big deal.
No it is a big deal.  It retards their brain development and their trust in what is real versus what is fiction.  The longer the delusion continues, the longer they linger in a child-like unknowing state.  It will even persist with them to some degree in the future.  Wiggs and other morons are clear products of this.  They have no idea what real information is, what is fiction and what is reality.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 06:02:53 PM
Its just a bit of fun and makes it more magical for the kids.
They learn the truth eventually and have to play the same role when they have kids.

No such thing as magic.  It has no place for our universe unless writing books, movies or making video games.  Other than that, it just creates morons like Wiggs.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: che on December 05, 2013, 06:03:28 PM
  Its for them and the kids.

Both
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Gonuclear on December 05, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

Why worry?  Or is Doomsday delayed given the comet that no longer is.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 06:05:48 PM
Kids should be left as innocent as possible for as long as possible. One day the reality of this wicked old world will set in so let them have fun first.
That's how you raise a moron of low intelligence.
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 05, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
From 3 years of age, they should know the harsh and true reality of life

That's how they will become a Realist and Successful in Life and Dominating others instead of becoming dominated, believing in telltales and fantasies.

Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: che on December 05, 2013, 06:15:23 PM
Santa haters (Wiggs , True Adonis ,kwon ...)  have one  thing in common , they don't have kids ,hmmm .

BTW I just talked to Santa  he's bringing this for my kid  :o

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2011models/2011-Kawasaki-KLX110e.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Natural Man on December 05, 2013, 06:16:02 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Gonuclear on December 05, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
That's how you raise a moron of low intelligence.

You're being too hard on yourself.  I don't think you're a moron.  
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Gonuclear on December 05, 2013, 06:17:35 PM
From 3 years of age, they should know the harsh and true reality of life

That's how they will become a Realist and Successful in Life and Dominating others instead of becoming dominated, believing in telltales and fantasies.



So then.  What went wrong in your case?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Natural Man on December 05, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
Santa haters (Wiggs , True Adonis ,kwon ...)  have one  thing in common , they don't have kids ,hmmm .



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Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 06:20:02 PM
You're being too hard on yourself.  I don't think you're a moron.  
I don`t care if you teach your kid that an old pedophile breaks in the house once a year to put a smile on their faces.  
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The True Adonis on December 05, 2013, 06:21:20 PM
clap clap clap.
You are not a basketball player yet you seem to pretend to know something about basketball.  :D
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Agent69 on December 05, 2013, 08:44:42 PM
I don't know if you Christians know this, but the Bible tells us Hebrews this about Christmas...Jeremiah, Chapter 10 verse 4-5

1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good

Bing-bang-boom. It doesn't get any more clear than that. Read it and weep.


looooooooooooooser!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: Archer77 on December 05, 2013, 08:48:52 PM
I don`t care if you teach your kid that an old pedophile breaks in the house once a year to put a smile on their faces.  

Sounds like a horror movie.  When did the Santa Claus story include kiddie fiddling?
Title: Re: Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?
Post by: The Ugly on December 05, 2013, 08:50:37 PM
I loved the Santa Claus years growing up. It was magical. But it sorta paves the way for your feelings/beliefs about Jesus. You grow out of it just the same.