Why is the lie of Santa Claus still perpetuated?

[Wiggs]

It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

[Orb]

lololololololol

Yeah it's a lie. But what will be done to "end this farce"?

[Palpatine Q]

It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

Leave the parenting to the parents Wiggs.  We got it covered.

[Wiggs]

lololololololol

Yeah it's a lie. But what will be done to "end this farce"?

Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.

[Orb]

Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.

Ok, but what will be done to bring this lie to an end? Petition? Picketing? Banners?

[wild willie]

It undermines your hard work as parents. It's time to end this farce.

don't be an insensitive prick......it is for the kids. you were probably one of those asshole kids that went around telling the younger kids not to believe in Santa.

[Wiggs]

Ok, but what will be done to bring this lie to an end? Petition? Picketing? Banners?

No,  as we all know Americans in General are pretty clueless, stupid sheep. The advertisers, entertainment industry and media would have to change the theme of Christmas little by little every year. A little here, a little there. And within a generation or two, you have a new Christmas.

[Orb]

No,  as we all know Americans in General are pretty clueless, stupid sheep. The advertisers, entertainment industry and media would have to change the theme of Christmas little by little every year. A little here, a little there. And within a generation or two, you have a new Christmas.

Goes broader than just America when looking at who's clueless. Humans in general ...

In America it would be very easy to switch ideas within a decade, seeing how powerfully connected people are to media, advertisements, etc

[Wiggs]

don't be an insensitive prick......it is for the kids. you were probably one of those asshole kids that went around telling the younger kids not to believe in Santa.

No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

[Orb]

No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

New era of truth? The world strays further and further from every truth out there over time. Technology has played a part and may be to blame, as these lies are perpetuated easier and faster.

[Palpatine Q]

No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.

You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

We do it with the bible 

[Mr. MB]

I have been favored with the opportunity to have visited a dozen diffrerent countries/cultures from Haiti to France to Israel/West Bank. I have seen some odd (to me) traditions and beliefs practised by many peoples. We in America are no different when it comes to fairy tales to children or "believing" by adults. 1/6th of planet earth believes that Mohammed sat on his horse Barack and together they rose to Heaven. Do we mock them?

[wild willie]

 get a grip.......it is for the kids....period paragraph......lighten up and don't get your panties in a wad!!

[tommywishbone]

You can't spell Santa without Satan.

Santa Claus
Legal claus
no underpants
Hail Satan

[snx]

When my daughter was born, I won. My wife agreed with me that we would tell her a more realistic version of Santa. It's not some fat guy who breaks into the house and leaves you an iPod. Santa represents the spirit of giving to others and helping your fellow man. We told her that people like to make up neat characters to help them tell a story, and Santa helps people understand why giving is good, but that there is no real man who lives at the north pole making barbie dolls for all the good little girls in the world. Know what? It went over very well with my daughter. She appreciated it...she's said so. Kids can be pretty smart. She's said stuff like "hey dad, you know if Santa were real, it wouldn't make sense. Because how come those kids in africa are always hungry. Why wouldn't they just ask Santa for food? If he was real, he'd bring it. I guess there really is no real santa". She told me this at age 5. Kids grow up a lot faster today than when I was young.

But I also caught a lot of shit from other parents/teachers/family about being a killjoy.

So I let my wife win with my son. He believes the whole Santa-brings-you-presents-inside-your-house thing. I have a standing agreement with my daughter that when my son stops believing, it better not be because she told him. If I find out, no more christmas presents for her.

Honestly, I hate having to lie to my son about it. Christmas is a wonderful time, and it has a good message for us all. But santa is about commercialization; I wanted my son to really appreciate what the spirit of the day was all about. When I was a kid, I remember my folks trying to get that message into my head; it didn't stick. All I cared about was that some fat guy would get into the house and bring me Castle Grayskull. I nodded to my family "oh yeah, I hope good things happen to poor people", but I didn't really care. I just cared about getting presents, and that's what the media told us kids to expect.

I just think I got it right with my daughter, and wrong with my son. The good news is, I'm going to wear down the wife this year about it and I think she'll crack.

And I agree with Wiggs' comment - the lie does undermine the role of a parent. I know it sounds heartless, but I truly believe this. I don't want to be in the habit of having my kids wonder if I'm telling the truth or just telling them a fairytale. 

[Grape Ape]

eh, it's fun.   They figure it out evenutally, then it's done.   No big deal.

[Henda]

Its just a bit of fun and makes it more magical for the kids.
They learn the truth eventually and have to play the same role when they have kids.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I hate the commercialized Red and White Santa.  Do you know that the Red and White Santa was originally created by Coca Cola for their ads?  Santa use to wear green like the elves did as Santa is just an Elf.

[Mitch]

Why is the lie perpetuated? Because kids need to dream, they don't need to know about money, hard work, shitty jobs, financial crisis, taxes and other grown-up problems. This time will come fast enough. Give them a break for a few years.

oh, and shove your religious BS up your Nesquik box, no offense.

[OTHstrong]

Less Pagan and more religion. If you're not religious, more family and less imaginary man getting credit for gifts you worked your ass off to provide.

Fuck You Santa.

no one views it as pagan, that is another perception altogether, the intentions are good here and kids have a thrill, I remembered getting made fun of and laughed at when I was a kid cause we were poor and could not afford to celebrate Christmas and it sucked, I will not take that away from my children.

If that is a lie then so is everything else we tell our kids for their own safety.

[Wiggs]

I don't know if you Christians know this, but the Bible tells us Hebrews this about Christmas...Jeremiah, Chapter 10 verse 4-5

1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good

Bing-bang-boom. It doesn't get any more clear than that. Read it and weep.

[CalvinH]

I hate the commercialized Red and White Santa.  Do you know that the Red and White Santa was originally created by Coca Cola for their ads?  Santa use to wear green like the elves did as Santa is just an Elf.

Does the black Santa steal from the kids instead of giving to them

[funk51]

because chicks are into red velvet....

[Agnostic007]

No, I of course fell for the lie as a kid. I didn't tell people not to believe.

This is a new era of truth and Santa has no home here.
You think it's ok to tell your children lies for the sake of tradition? You're full of shit.

Fast forward 100 yrs.. "This is a new era of truth and god has no home here."

[The Wizard of Truth]

I don't know if you Christians know this, but the Bible tells us Hebrews this about Christmas...Jeremiah, Chapter 10 verse 4-5

1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good

Bing-bang-boom. It doesn't get any more clear than that. Read it and weep.

You take drugs and ride prostitutes, youre no Christian