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Title: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
fired off a email to customer service to remove it from my package (I know they cant!, just for effect) as I will be prorating my bill......my 5 min civil protest, and I dont watch that hick show FYI
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 19, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
fired off a email to customer service to remove it from my package (I know they cant!, just for effect) as I will be prorating my bill......my 5 min civil protest, and I dont watch that hick show FYI


Wouldn't it be easier just to change the station...
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 09:29:58 AM

Wouldn't it be easier just to change the station...

Wouldn't it be easier for A&E to not get involved with peoples personal opinions and make, distribute entertainment?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Man of Steel on December 19, 2013, 09:31:54 AM
What hick show?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 09:33:37 AM
What hick show?

Duck Dynasty

I've seen a few episodes.....not for me.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: chaos on December 19, 2013, 09:35:21 AM
What hick show?
That hick show with those bible thumping gay haters from Texas.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Purple Aki on December 19, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
Yeah, its Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: That_Dude on December 19, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
What these homos need to realize is that if it wasn't for straight people and the necessity of a male and female to create life they ( the homos) would not be around
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 01:44:08 PM
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years."

-David Rockefeller jr.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Wouldn't it be easier for A&E to not get involved with peoples personal opinions and make, distribute entertainment?
???

They worked for A&E.  A&E can fire them for their opinions if they want.


Wouldn`t it be better to take restrictions off of business and let them fire them if they want?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
fired off a email to customer service to remove it from my package (I know they cant!, just for effect) as I will be prorating my bill......my 5 min civil protest, and I dont watch that hick show FYI

So you will be paying less than your total bill?  I don't think that'll work lol

Your little protest may have been marginally effective had you contacted A&E directly... your cable provider is not affiliated with the networks
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 19, 2013, 02:19:26 PM
Wouldn't it be easier for A&E to not get involved with peoples personal opinions and make, distribute entertainment?


They were paid 200k an episode by AE so I think they have the right to can someone.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 03:13:33 PM
???

They worked for A&E.  A&E can fire them for their opinions if they want.


Wouldn`t it be better to take restrictions off of business and let them fire them if they want?

Yes, just like we should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Fuck A&E though, Cultural Marxism
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: dr.chimps on December 19, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
That'll learn 'em.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 03:31:42 PM
???

They worked for A&E.  A&E can fire them for their opinions if they want.


Wouldn`t it be better to take restrictions off of business and let them fire them if they want?

agree 100% and I will boycott A&E as is MY right!
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
So you will be paying less than your total bill?  I don't think that'll work lol

Your little protest may have been marginally effective had you contacted A&E directly... your cable provider is not affiliated with the networks

follow the $$$....I call A&E I'm one of hundreds of faceless schmoes.....Dish gets short paid a couple of mill, calls A&E....different animal altogether.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: temple_of_dis on December 19, 2013, 04:08:17 PM
fired off a email to customer service to remove it from my package (I know they cant!, just for effect) as I will be prorating my bill......my 5 min civil protest, and I dont watch that hick show FYI

Fight the powers that be!
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: the trainer on December 19, 2013, 04:27:43 PM
I signed the petition on change.org for this duck guy to have his job back, I do not support people being bullied and intimidated just because they disagree with the lifestyle of a group of people
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 05:46:22 PM
follow the $$$....I call A&E I'm one of hundreds of faceless schmoes.....Dish gets short paid a couple of mill, calls A&E....different animal altogether.

I suspect that this may end up affecting your credit rating more than it will affect A&E
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 05:49:44 PM
I suspect that this may end up affecting your credit rating more than it will affect A&E

lol
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: polychronopolous on December 19, 2013, 05:50:29 PM
I've watched a few scenes here and there. The old man is a pretty decent guy. Give him his damn job back.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: jude2 on December 19, 2013, 05:51:30 PM
THe other family members should say fuck A&E and take their number one show to another net work. No more freedom of speech in this country.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 06:00:45 PM
THe other family members should say fuck A&E and take their number one show to another net work. No more freedom of speech in this country.
How was the first amendment violated?  ???  ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 06:05:08 PM
Only the government can violate your Constitutional rights.

Still though True Adonis, you don't think this is an idiotic move on the part of A&E?  Or are they hoping this controversial decision will bump ratings up even more?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: calfzilla on December 19, 2013, 06:21:30 PM
Translation:  I feel threatened by homosexuals and must compensate by acting against them.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
Translation:  I feel threatened by homosexuals and must compensate by acting against them.

I like the gays and call more gay people my friend than any of you. (no homo). Still, the man shouldn't be fired when 90% of DD viewers probably agree with his comments.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 06:25:01 PM
I like the gays and call more gay people my friend than any of you. (no homo). Still, the man shouldn't be fired when 90% of DD viewers probably agree with his comments.
A & E is more than just Schmuck Dynasty you know.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: calfzilla on December 19, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
The point is ae can do whatever they want. If they want to fire him for making a bologna sandwich they can.

Maybe the hick should have thought about that before he started spewing hate speech.  8)
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
That hick show with those bible thumping gay haters from Texas.
Don't make it so obvious Y-minati.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
A & E is more than just Schmuck Dynasty you know.

Which A&E show has a significant audience of people that his comments could seriously offend though?

I'm just curious as to why we bend over backwards for a few specific groups. I get severely offended by shit I see on TV all the time, but no one gives a shit because I'm just an old fashioned white fellow.  :-\
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: jude2 on December 19, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
How was the first amendment violated?  ???  ???  ???  ???
You get fired from voicing your opinion. All the dude said is he thought being gay was a sin. Who cares what this red neck says or thinks? I guess u have to have the same religious believe as your boss these days. In general people can't say what they want these days. If u say the big bad N work u are finished unless u are black. If u say something neg to someone it is bullying.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: jude2 on December 19, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
The point is ae can do whatever they want. If they want to fire him for making a bologna sandwich they can.

Maybe the hick should have thought about that before he started spewing hate speech.  8)
I guess it is easy for these big companies to fire people. I know  when I fired a black girl at work, because she was always late and was lazy as hell, and wanted everyone to carry her load. She hired an attorney and sued the company for discrimination??
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 06:39:40 PM
Yes, just like we should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Fuck A&E though, Cultural Marxism

Pushing the homosexual agenda. First, they told them not to mention God or conclude the show with a prayer and now this, ridiculous. I have AT&T uverse going to see how to block the channel, I'm sure AT&T keeps track of what channels go on block.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 06:42:45 PM
You get fired from voicing your opinion. All the dude said is he thought being gay was a sin. Who cares what this red neck says or thinks? I guess u have to have the same religious believe as your boss these days. In general people can't say what they want these days. If u say the big bad N work u are finished unless u are black. If u say something neg to someone it is bullying.

Basically all you can do today is put down straight white men, white women to a lesser extent (if you're not a white male), Christians (don't you dare disrespect Islam, or Judaism especially), and you can make fun of Asians for some reason.


You can only put down the people who are overwhelmingly productive and established?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 06:48:13 PM
Which A&E show has a significant audience of people that his comments could seriously offend though?

I'm just curious as to why we bend over backwards for a few specific groups. I get severely offended by shit I see on TV all the time, but no one gives a shit because I'm just an old fashioned white fellow.  :-\
Who is "we"?  The network can do whatever they want.  They don`t have to weigh in on anyones opinion.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 06:49:35 PM
You get fired from voicing your opinion. All the dude said is he thought being gay was a sin. Who cares what this red neck says or thinks? I guess u have to have the same religious believe as your boss these days. In general people can't say what they want these days. If u say the big bad N work u are finished unless u are black. If u say something neg to someone it is bullying.
Getting fired for voicing an opinion is not a violation of the First Amendment.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 06:55:33 PM
Who is "we"?  The network can do whatever they want. 

Our society, when it comes to protected classes you're not allowed to base your decision on what makes good business sense or what's fair and ethical. Firing him obviously wasn't a smart business decision.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
Our society, when it comes to protected classes you're not allowed to base your decision on what makes good business sense or what's fair and ethical. Firing him obviously wasn't a smart business decision.

Maybe, maybe not.....I think it was in their best interest, and clearly they did as well.

Clearly nobody here works for a Fortune500 company, because this wouldn't come as a shock to you if you did.  Some topics--gays, blacks, jews, religion--are so incendiary that a public figure cannot broach the topic.  At least not without inciting a media shitstorm.

Wrong, right, that's the way things are.  And personally, I find it much smarter to play the system, count your riches, and bring about change from behind the scenes, rather than to take on the system by running into it headfirst
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 07:03:56 PM
Our society, when it comes to protected classes you're not allowed to base your decision on what makes good business sense or what's fair and ethical. Firing him obviously wasn't a smart business decision.
It might be in the long run.

How come the Republicans and anyone else were not "outraged" when MSNBC fired Alec Baldwin for his gay comments?  ???  Not a peep.  In fact, it was a "Conservative" blogger calling for his resignation.


With that said, I would not have suspended the Schmuck Dynasty if I was in charge, nor would have I fired Alec Baldwin.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Maddy on December 19, 2013, 07:05:19 PM


The True Adonis
still arguing
over a show
he doesnt
care about
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 07:08:56 PM

The True Adonis
still arguing
over a show
he doesnt
care about
You are on a bodybuilding site and don`t even work out.  Whats the difference?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Tedim on December 19, 2013, 07:08:58 PM

Wrong, right, that's the way things are.  And personally, I find it much smarter to play the system, count your riches, and bring about change from behind the scenes, rather than to take on the system by running into it headfirst

I'm sure that was the sentiment of many German Jews in the 30s.......
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Maddy on December 19, 2013, 07:10:51 PM
You are on a bodybuilding site and don`t even work out.  Whats the difference?

The True Adonis
i can garentee
I lift more
than you in
every move
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2013, 07:11:36 PM
The True Adonis
i can garentee
I lift more
than you in
every move
Calm down Chaos.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Maddy on December 19, 2013, 07:12:58 PM


shizzo81
you are dumber
than chaos head
is pointy
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: haider on December 19, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
I don't see the controversy. I mean you can't be saying the same shit about other minority groups, why should gays be any different? Would your reaction be the same if he quoted the bible to promote slavery?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
The True Adonis
i can garentee
I lift more
than you in
every move
No you don`t.  

(http://i47.tinypic.com/9rkkqq.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103172.0;attach=113124;image)
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2013, 07:15:29 PM

shizzo81
you are dumber
than chaos head
is pointy
Horrible post.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Maddy on December 19, 2013, 07:21:09 PM


yes I do
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 07:28:36 PM

yes I do
???
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
Chaos challenging True Adonis in this thread.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: chaos on December 19, 2013, 07:39:48 PM
Lol @ shitsoul trying to stir controversy.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Busted on December 19, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
Who watches cable?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: King Shizzo on December 19, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
Lol @ shitsoul trying to stir controversy.
Who said it then?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: chaos on December 19, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
Who said it then?
Whoever "Maddy" is said it. Why not ask him?
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 07:46:01 PM
I'm sure that was the sentiment of many German Jews in the 30s.......

Oh boy....

Personally I don't think the firing of a reality tv personality is analogous to systematic genocide, but if you're a big enough fan of the show, well.....

I don't see the controversy. I mean you can't be saying the same shit about other minority groups, why should gays be any different? Would your reaction be the same if he quoted the bible to promote slavery?

Perfect.  This guy gets it
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 08:20:37 PM
Maybe, maybe not.....I think it was in their best interest, and clearly they did as well.

Clearly nobody here works for a Fortune500 company, because this wouldn't come as a shock to you if you did.  Some topics--gays, blacks, jews, religion--are so incendiary that a public figure cannot broach the topic.  At least not without inciting a media shitstorm.

Wrong, right, that's the way things are.  And personally, I find it much smarter to play the system, count your riches, and bring about change from behind the scenes, rather than to take on the system by running into it headfirst

Smart decision....count your riches....play the system...

Yeah, all of the above is exactly what the Robertson's will be doing when they sue the hell out of A&E for religious discrimination under the Federal Codes of Regulation and Civil Rights Act of 1964. A&E meesed up big time when they siaid they fired him for his 'personal beliefs' which his statements had a direct nexus to the bible and bible verses he read aloud.

Clearly you don't work for a Fortune 500 company and see the business and legal issues in their decision to act in such haste and speak so loose with their words as to why he was fired  ::)
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 08:30:02 PM
Our society, when it comes to protected classes you're not allowed to base your decision on what makes good business sense or what's fair and ethical. Firing him obviously wasn't a smart business decision.

Yeah, I agree. Dumb move and now they have no bargaining power. They have A&E by the balls. A&E lawyers are going to be working this Christmas to clean up the mess from the statement A&E released on the reason they fired Phil and doing their best to  put out the fires with regards to the many ways the family can now effectively breach the contract.

This is going to be an awesome battle.
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 08:39:05 PM
Smart decision....count your riches....play the system...

Yeah, all of the above is exactly what the Robertson's will be doing when they sue the hell out of A&E for religious discrimination under the Federal Codes of Regulation and Civil Rights Act of 1964. A&E meesed up big time when they siaid they fired him for his 'personal beliefs' which his statements had a direct nexus to the bible and bible verses he read aloud.

Clearly you don't work for a Fortune 500 company and see the business and legal issues in their decision to act in such haste and speak so loose with their words as to why he was fired  ::)

I'm not familiar with the statement they released... could you post it?

As far as suing for wrongful dismissal, no way.  They fired him for statements made in a couple of interviews.  Not because he goes to church in Sundays.  The fact that the two are related is incidental
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 08:46:58 PM
I'm not familiar with the statement they released... could you post it?

As far as suing for wrongful dismissal, no way.  They fired him for statements made in a couple of interviews.  Not because he goes to church in Sundays.  The fact that the two are related is incidental

It's not incidental, they can argue that though. Statements made in a couple of interviews is pushing the envelope because it only shows in court and on paper that they acquiesced his earlier statements.


Their statements (Robertson's) lays out the issue and explains how they are attacking A&E behind closed doors.



The family also criticized A&E for its actions, saying he was placed on hiatus “for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right.”

Robertson’s comments drew immediate condemnation from gay rights groups who pressured the network to take action. On Wednesday, A&E announced Robertson was being removed from the show indefinitely.

"We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson's comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty," the network said in a statement.

"His personal views in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."

A&E’s decision to pull Robertson from the show drew strong support from the gay and lesbian rights group GLAAD.

“What’s clear is that such hateful anti-gay comments are unacceptable to fans, viewers, and networks alike,” said GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz. “By taking quick action and removing Robertson from future filming, A&E has sent a strong message that discrimination is neither a Christian nor an American value.”
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 08:51:27 PM
I've never seen the show, but I'm starting to think I should check it out.

This isn't just about A&E, it's about out of control cultural Marxism.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/flashback-ae-tried-cut-jesus-duck-dynasty-family-prayers
FLASHBACK: A&E Tried to Cut 'Jesus' from 'Duck Dynasty' Family Prayers
"So I said, ‘Why would you cut out ‘In Jesus’ name?'"


In an interview in April 2013, Phil Robertson told Sports Spectrum TV that A&E Network had attempted to cut mention of “Jesus” from the “Duck Dynasty” family prayer at the end of the show, but that he had fought them and won. “So they would just have me saying, ‘Thank you Lord for the food, thank you for loving us. Amen,” Robertson related. “So I said, ‘Why would you cut out ‘In Jesus’ name?’ They said, ‘Well those editors are probably doing that. They just think that they don’t want to offend some of the Muslims or something.”

Robertson stated that he then told the producers that the date on which they were discussing the issue was measured in Anno Domini (AD) – meaning “in the year of our Lord.” Robertson explained, “I said, ‘You Hollywood cats are counting time by Jesus just like I am.’ I would think that out of all of the people that walk planet Earth, if we’ve all decided in America to count time by just one of them, Jesus of Galilee, I don’t think it hurts to throw his name in there from time to time. So I noticed now, every once in awhile, they’re leaving it in there.”

Robertson said that he had to wage “spiritual warfare” in order to get them to tape the family using Jesus’ name. “I mean you have people with no moral compass, it ain’t there,” he concluded.

Robertson also pointed out that the network had “inserted fake bleeps, like someone had used profanity, but no one had used profanity.”
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
Hilarious how the gay organization talks about discrimination yet they pushed for the discriminatory firing of Phil based on his religious beliefs.

LOL, A&E should be sued for stupidity if they really fell to the knees of this group and other groups and as a result took, "quick action and removing Robertson from future filming."

Robertson's even have a somewhat decent claim against whatever named "group" A&E spoke of in the same senetence it mentioned firing Phil for a plausible tortious business inteference action. Obviously A&E shouldn't put out anymore statements for their own sake.

Roger good find, I remember that now. A&E counsel must be so pissed right now.

A&E would literally be toast if this saw a court room. The amount of discovery would be amazing in and of itself. The inter office memorandum's about not only this show but possible other shows of the past or future, which perhaps would show whether or not they did or did not want religion involved or better yet if they wanted to "push a certain viewpoint" on their audience members.



Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 08:59:24 PM
One of the rare people left who put their principles ahead of money and fame, and we punish him.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/05/10/Duck-Dynasty-Star-If-We-Can-t-Mention-God-Or-Guns-Then-We-re-Done-Filming

Flashback: 'Duck Dynasty' Star Vows to Quit if A&E Bans Talk of God or Guns


On May 9, Greensboro, NC country station 93.1 The Wolf reported that after receiving complaints over prayers to God and the frequent use of guns on air, Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson said, "God and guns are part of our everyday lives [and] to remove either of them from the show is unacceptable."

According to a post 93.1 The Wolf put in their Facebook page, Phil also said: "If we can't pray to God on the show, then we will not do the show." The post received more than 126,000 Facebook "likes."

Details regarding the source of the complaints have not been released. Nor has anyone clarified whether they originated within or without of A&E. Breitbart News has reached out to the network for comment.

One thing that has been reported is that A&E signed the Robertson family for another season, "under Phil Robertson's terms."
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Roger good find, I remember that now. A&E counsel must be so pissed right now.

Thanks, I hope so!!
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 09:05:43 PM
"Robertson and his family are great citizens of the State of Louisiana," said Gov. Bobby Jindal in a statement Thursday. "The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with." He goes on:

I don't agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive. But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views. In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.


Just posted to the Cruz campaign's Facebook page:

Free Speech Matters

The reason that so many Americans love Duck Dynasty is because it represents the America usually ignored or mocked by liberal elites: a family that loves and cares for each other, believes in God, and speaks openly about their faith.

If you believe in free speech or religious liberty, you should be deeply dismayed over the treatment of Phil Robertson. Phil expressed his personal views and his own religious faith; for that, he was suspended from his job. In a free society, anyone is free to disagree with him--but the mainstream media should not behave as the thought police censoring the views with which they disagree.

And, as PC enforcers often forget, tolerance is a two-way street. Here's what Phil himself had to say about accepting and loving everybody:

"I myself am a product of the 60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom and accepted Jesus as my Savior. My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together. However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other."
Title: Re: Just Blocked A&E on my dish network.....
Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 09:05:58 PM
Praying to god is for stupid people.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
 :D
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Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
Over 1 Million Support Boycotting A&E Following ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star’s Suspension
December 19, 2013 7:45 PM


WEST MONROE, La. (CBS Houston) — Over 1 million people support boycotting A&E following the suspension of “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson.

Read more: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/19/hundreds-of-thousands-support-boycotting-ae-following-duck-dynasty-stars-suspension/
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Conservatives think people should be held responsible for their actions—until one of their own, like Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson, has to pay a price for their bigoted views.
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Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 09:12:02 PM
Lol are you kidding? That statement mentions his "personal beliefs"....that doesn't mean they dropped him for religious reasons.  And even if they did, you couldn't draw that conclusion from the statement.

A&E was fully within their rights to drop this guy, just deal with it.  There won't be a lawsuit filed, and if there was the judge would throw it out

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Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
Praying to god is for stupid people.

I think every civilization must believe in a power greater than themselves to move forward. Without belief their is no hope and no ingenuity. Even all the great minds and inventors believed in some force greater than themselves.

I'd rather be stupid for life, than stupid the day of my death, on my death bed like so many famous enlightened philosophers.


Apparently A&E owns the rights to 'Duck Dynasty' however the Robertson's own 'Duck Commander'
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Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 09:17:40 PM
"It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus," Robertson says in the January issue of GQ. "That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

Robertson also is asked what he finds sinful. His answer: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."


His comments really aren't that big of a deal?

You've got to ask yourself what's behind the extreme intolerance by the media and Hollywood, when they're even willing to hurt themselves financially.

The editors are so worried about offending Muslims that they try and keep anyone from mentioning Jesus. Why?

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Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
A&E was fully within their rights to drop this guy, just deal with it.  There won't be a lawsuit filed, and if there was the judge would throw it out

Oh really? What rights are those?
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
I think every civilization must believe in a power greater than themselves to move forward. Without belief their is no hope and no ingenuity. Even all the great minds and inventors believed in some force greater than themselves.

I'd rather be stupid for life, than stupid the day of my death, on my death bed like so many famous enlightened philosophers.


Apparently A&E owns the rights to 'Duck Dynasty' however the Robertson's own 'Duck Commander'

What god did Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein believe in?   ???

Furthermore, religion has not done anything in terms of technological advancement.  NOTHING. It has only hindered progress.

Don`t be a moron.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 19, 2013, 09:20:46 PM
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Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
What god did Thomas Edison and Albert Einstein believe in?   ???

Furthermore, religion has not done anything in terms of technological advancement.  NOTHING. It has only hindered progress.

Don`t be a moron.

I said something greater than themselves.

It did pave the way for eyeglasses to be allowed that was a step in the right direction.

Dude, Thomas Edison seemed like the biggest dick of his time. How was he so smart but always so damn negative.
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Post by: calfzilla on December 19, 2013, 09:23:54 PM
:D

 :) I love all your great atheist meme pics.
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Post by: youandme on December 19, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
Lol are you kidding? That statement mentions his "personal beliefs"....that doesn't mean they dropped him for religious reasons.  And even if they did, you couldn't draw that conclusion from the statement.

A&E was fully within their rights to drop this guy, just deal with it.  There won't be a lawsuit filed, and if there was the judge would throw it out




You won't be able to find out what "rights" a person has to fire another until you read a few Federal Codes of Regulations on Discrimination and Labor.

You don't have a "right" to fire someone you do have a guideline and a lawful manner to rightfully fire someone.

I'm all for firing people and at will employement states but one needs to act within the guidelines of the law and not raise suspicious for the reason(s) in which they were fired.

Suspicious and doubt are the forerunners to truth, and that is all you need for this suit and any suit because you won't find truth in the court room. lol
 
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Post by: Roger Bacon on December 19, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
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Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 19, 2013, 09:45:54 PM

You won't be able to find out what "rights" a person has to fire another until you read a few Federal Codes of Regulations on Discrimination and Labor.

You don't have a "right" to fire someone you do have a guideline and a lawful manner to rightfully fire someone.

I'm all for firing people and at will employement states but one needs to act within the guidelines of the law and not raise suspicious for the reason(s) in which they were fired.

Suspicious and doubt are the forerunners to truth, and that is all you need for this suit and any suit because you won't find truth in the court room. lol
 

You're quibbling over semantics... at will employment -- the employer has the power or "right" to terminate an employee at any time, for any reason, barring discrimination based on racial, ethnic, national and/or religious beliefs.

You mention suspicion about the reason for firing Robertson being the basis for a lawsuit.  What suspicion?  The guy made anti-homosexual comments in multiple public interviews!
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Post by: The Ugly on December 19, 2013, 10:41:49 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

Walter speaking the truth.
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Post by: youandme on December 20, 2013, 06:10:12 AM
You're quibbling over semantics... at will employment -- the employer has the power or "right" to terminate an employee at any time, for any reason, barring discrimination based on racial, ethnic, national and/or religious beliefs.

You mention suspicion about the reason for firing Robertson being the basis for a lawsuit.  What suspicion?  The guy made anti-homosexual comments in multiple public interviews!

Dude, wth? Are you really this stubborn? Semantics is the law. The syntax of each word carries weight.

(Also, when you talk about rights it's constitutional specific, and their is no fundamental "right" to terminate an employee)

You're thinking about it from a perspective of constitutional issues and proof issues I think.

I'll try and break it down real quickly before I finish my coffee....

(1) In law there are burden hurdles to overcome for a plaintiff to first, bring suit and second keep the suit alive against against presumptions. Don't throw around "judge will throw the case out" movie lines, that is not how it works but close.

(2) obertson's can put together a relatively easy claim of action for religious discrimination in the workplace with what just happend and further use the past evidence (Roger Bacon posted) to corroborate their claim (this will be used as circumstantial evidence and evidence to prove intent, motive, a common scheme and plan)

(3) If you still believe in your own law, please read up on United States employement law for those that wish to have employees work for them in a private business setting, "Employer is liable to employee for disparate treatment motivated by religion-based animus, disparate impact of employment practices, and failure to offer reasonable accommodation of employee's religious practice."

(4) (Let's go back to where I said suspicion and you mocked that) Understand it's not what you know, but what you can prove when dealing with law issues (back to the top on evidentiary burden hurdles)

Example:
You get fired because you're a virgin and talk about it at work. You work at a sex shop, lol. Employeer doesn't like that you wear a band that symbolizes your virginity and that you attend church on a weekly basis and commented to a sex magazine on how the bible says it's best to abstain from sex. You're fired.

You then hire a lawyer. The lawyer will put together and present a prima facie case where he sues your employeer sex shop, at that point the burden shifts to the defendant (sex shop) to articulate a legitimate and nondiscriminatory reason for the adverse employment action (he claims cause you would jerk it in the bathroom on your break) so if he meets this burden the then burden shifts back to you and you must show that the defendant's proffered reason is a pretext for discrimination.

So don't think that you need concrete proof to file a claim there is rarely concrete proof or a smoking gun. My point is if something happens to you or you feel wronged their is a remedy for you in some niche area of the vast law arena.

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Post by: dan18 on December 20, 2013, 08:54:44 AM
???

They worked for A&E.  A&E can fire them for their opinions if they want.


Wouldn`t it be better to take restrictions off of business and let them fire them if they want?
very true but so much for '' reality tv '' its only what the networks think should be reality.
fact of the matter is you say and do what they want.
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Post by: loco on December 20, 2013, 09:04:25 AM
Change.org petition calling for A&E to bring Robertson back reached 100,000 signatures in less than 24 hours.
http://www.change.org/petitions/a-e-networks-end-the-wrongful-suspension-of-phil-robertson#news


Change.org petition calling for The Boy Scouts of America to include gay parents reached 50,000 signatures in 7 months.
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-boy-scouts-of-america-will-allow-gay-scouts-now-it-s-time-to-include-gay-parents#news
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 20, 2013, 09:15:30 AM
I said something greater than themselves.

It did pave the way for eyeglasses to be allowed that was a step in the right direction.

Dude, Thomas Edison seemed like the biggest dick of his time. How was he so smart but always so damn negative.

Everything I read about Edison makes it seem you are right about him being a dick. But Nikola Tesla was from another planet on the dick level. Tesla, who was most likely a non practicing homosexual hated everybody. Except his pigeon(bird)...Its amazing the pass genius's get for being eccentric...
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 20, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
Everything I read about Edison makes it seem you are right about him being a dick. But Nikola Tesla was from another planet on the dick level. Tesla, who was most likely a non practicing homosexual hated everybody. Except his pigeon(bird)...Its amazing the pass genius's get for being eccentric...

However even with what I just wrote, I do take any and all bad press about Tesla with a grain of salt. He wasn't part of Hierarchy blood and it could be that with their re-writing history agenda that they are bad mouthing Tesla...
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Post by: Mr Nobody on December 20, 2013, 09:24:15 AM
That'll learn 'em.
Outed for improper grammar.
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Post by: youandme on December 20, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Everything I read about Edison makes it seem you are right about him being a dick. But Nikola Tesla was from another planet on the dick level. Tesla, who was most likely a non practicing homosexual hated everybody. Except his pigeon(bird)...Its amazing the pass genius's get for being eccentric...


I guess it's understandable that these guys may have been pessimistic or negative because they had to continuously  explain their ideas to people. It would kind of be like a nagging wife always asking questions.
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Post by: Tapeworm on December 20, 2013, 10:29:57 AM
I don't see the controversy. I mean you can't be saying the same shit about other minority groups, why should gays be any different? Would your reaction be the same if he quoted the bible to promote slavery?

Hey, if 1 hour in church gets me a slave all week then I'm there.  Now where do you want all this sugar, tobacco, and booze?
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Post by: MikMaq on December 20, 2013, 12:59:47 PM
Oh really? What rights are those?
He signed a contract to work with A and E, that without a doubt clearly states that he is a representative of the company and since his public image itself is being marketed anything he says publicly can be viewed as terms for dismissal . 
Conservatives think people should be held responsible for their actions—until one of their own, like Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson, has to pay a price for their bigoted views.
Ding ding, theyre the first to say that an employer has right to control how their represented by their company, a cyclical hypocritical group.



P.S. go fuck yourself and your atheistic nonsense.