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Title: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on December 28, 2013, 02:48:33 AM
for those of you that have run each compound, which was better and why?

also, lay off the "you must inject" gig, coz i'm just looking for feedback regarding peeps experiences these 2 compounds and not to be judged, thanks
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: phreak on December 28, 2013, 05:06:01 AM
for those of you that have run each compound, which was better and why?

also, lay off the "you must inject" gig, coz i'm just looking for feedback regarding peeps experiences these 2 compounds and not to be judged, thanks
Tried them both separately, because I was a dumbass that did not want to inject. Results: minimal to nonexistent. My current 250 mg/w of test blows both so far out of the water it isn't even funny.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: galeniko on December 28, 2013, 05:26:07 AM
they both kida weak.

the injectable winnys you can actually drink.

winny+test is great stuff, if your hair stays on the scalp with this stack,its meant to stay ;D
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 28, 2013, 07:35:42 AM
they both kida weak.

the injectable winnys you can actually drink.

winny+test is great stuff, if your hair stays on the scalp with this stack,its meant to stay ;D


Hahahaha
which AAS is hairfriendly?

Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Borracho on December 28, 2013, 08:23:45 AM

Hahahaha
which AAS is hairfriendly?



Deca, eq, anavar were good to me. Didn't try winstrol cause even thinking about it makes my scalp itch.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on December 28, 2013, 08:41:24 AM
i've been on 40 mg var for about 3 weeks now, and i've gotten leaner while maintaining my bodyweight @ 72 kg

ab skinfold is down from 9 mm to 5 mm (from 9% bodyfat to sub-7)

now, i'll switch up and drop the var down to 20 mg per day and add in 25-30 mg of dbol per day and increase the cals just a bit

the goal now is to stay lean (ie. ab skinfold @ 5 mm which is a legit sub-7) and add a bit of lean muscle tissue only, so we will see
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Nicademus on December 28, 2013, 11:09:15 AM
Deca, eq, anavar were good to me. Didn't try winstrol cause even thinking about it makes my scalp itch.

If you're going to lose your hair you're going to lose it.  All this which compound stuff is just bro science.

I was worried about hair too.  Started w/ var all the way to tren.  

Don't shed or lose hair on any amount but have friends that lose hair just by looking at AAS.

It's a 100% individual trait.

You can google any and every steroid and find somebody that claims it caused their hair loss.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Borracho on December 28, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
If you're going to lose your hair you're going to lose it.  All this which compound stuff is just bro science.

I was worried about hair too.  Started w/ var all the way to tren.  

Don't shed or lose hair on any amount but have friends that lose hair just by looking at AAS.

It's a 100% individual trait.

You can google any and every steroid and find somebody that claims it caused their hair loss.

Congratulations for not experiencing hair loss with anything!

And not everyone will be bald but everybody loses hair with age. I'm not gonna use anything that's gonna speed the process... fuck that.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Wez on December 28, 2013, 12:16:32 PM
I liked both but Var was easier on me at my age. Winny had every bone hurting by the 4th week but I looked good!
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 28, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
If you're going to lose your hair you're going to lose it.  All this which compound stuff is just bro science.

I was worried about hair too.  Started w/ var all the way to tren.  

Don't shed or lose hair on any amount but have friends that lose hair just by looking at AAS.

It's a 100% individual trait.

You can google any and every steroid and find somebody that claims it caused their hair loss.
Pretty much on the hair mostly genes but roids will speed the loss up.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: galeniko on December 28, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
If you're going to lose your hair you're going to lose it.  All this which compound stuff is just bro science.

I was worried about hair too.  Started w/ var all the way to tren.  

Don't shed or lose hair on any amount but have friends that lose hair just by looking at AAS.

It's a 100% individual trait.

You can google any and every steroid and find somebody that claims it caused their hair loss.
science says,that dht is responsible for attaching to the hairs with the "proper" receptors.

so indirectly when test is broken down to dht, or the steroid is a dht derivate(masterona,winny)those should be least hair frendly.
but does this mean the reality will show the same results?i dont think so, dosage will be factor too.

arimidex has in the package officialy listed that thining of hair can happen, so too little estrogen can be a cause too.

i think litearaly all steroids will accelerate hairloss,if its genticaly given.we have hairs which have the recptors, if we have the receptors, were fucked, they will fall out eventualy.

but i do believe indivdual ppl have some steroids where it happens realy realy fast.

i seen ppl hair fall out so fast from 1 test ampoula week, it was almost unbelieveable :D

that said, if one realy wants to know, run test, masteron,winny,tren all at the same time, if the hair survives that, you will 99% be safe forever.

btw is itchy scalp an indicator to hairloss?or rather ot washing hair frequent enough :-X ;D

Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Borracho on December 28, 2013, 05:55:10 PM
science says,that dht is responsible for attaching to the hairs with the "proper" receptors.

so indirectly when test is broken down to dht, or the steroid is a dht derivate(masterona,winny)those should be least hair frendly.
but does this mean the reality will show the same results?i dont think so, dosage will be factor too.

arimidex has in the package officialy listed that thining of hair can happen, so too little estrogen can be a cause too.

i think litearaly all steroids will accelerate hairloss,if its genticaly given.we have hairs which have the recptors, if we have the receptors, were fucked, they will fall out eventualy.

but i do believe indivdual ppl have some steroids where it happens realy realy fast.

i seen ppl hair fall out so fast from 1 test ampoula week, it was almost unbelieveable :D

that said, if one realy wants to know, run test, masteron,winny,tren all at the same time, if the hair survives that, you will 99% be safe forever.

btw is itchy scalp an indicator to hairloss?or rather ot washing hair frequent enough :-X ;D



yeah bro anything can cause hair loss if dosed high enough for sure...even the ones that are supposed to be mild. 500 mg of test I get double the shed I do on 250.

And tren which is completely unrelated to dht in any sense is said to be pretty harsh for hair loss in those prone.

So it has to do with the androgenic affinity to scalp and follicles of each steroid because some are worse than others no doubt about that.

And yeah the itchy scalp is a sign of oncoming hair loss just as itchy nips are warning sign of gyno.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: galeniko on December 28, 2013, 06:55:45 PM
ah had no idea of the itchy scalp thing, frend tells me dont you get that annoying itchy scalp,i told him wtf, yeah at times,but very rare.

by oncoming, this will mean irreversivble anyway i guess.

yeah heard it over and over again, that tren causes thinning hair in many, and very soon,very quick.

good example for shouldnt but does.

Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 28, 2013, 08:19:45 PM
Anavar is better if you are only going to use one.  I would not use less than 80 mg if i were only using anavar and not other gear with it.  100mg would be better.  At that dosage you should feel something.  Winny on its own i never have done but i venture it would not do good things for joints based on my experiences with it.  I was using 100 mg oral winny with testo and even with the testo my knees felt like shit.  galeniko is right, testo and winny is a decent combo but not so sure about winny alone.  Stick with the anavar but try bumping the dose if yo can afford it.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 28, 2013, 08:21:17 PM
If you're going to lose your hair you're going to lose it.  All this which compound stuff is just bro science.

I was worried about hair too.  Started w/ var all the way to tren.  

Don't shed or lose hair on any amount but have friends that lose hair just by looking at AAS.

It's a 100% individual trait.

You can google any and every steroid and find somebody that claims it caused their hair loss.

1000000% correct.  Sorry didnt read this before i posted.   ;D

HAIR LOSS IS ENTIRELY BASED ON GENES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: OTHstrong on December 28, 2013, 09:40:37 PM
long term var, but in short burst, nothing beats winny.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 28, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
long term var, but in short burst, nothing beats winny.

Yes.  Winny just kills my joints long term.  Great for stacking with testo, but i just cant make it longer than a month or so before my knees are screaming.  I swear they actually feel dry inside, i know its in my head but that is the sensation i feel.  Anavar is about as mild as you can go nowadays on gear. 
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: OTHstrong on December 28, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
Yes.  Winny just kills my joints long term.  Great for stacking with testo, but i just cant make it longer than a month or so before my knees are screaming.  I swear they actually feel dry inside, i know its in my head but that is the sensation i feel.  Anavar is about as mild as you can go nowadays on gear. 
this is why I will only do winny in 2 week bursts
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on December 29, 2013, 12:18:19 AM
long term var, but in short burst, nothing beats winny.

does winny really make you drier, harder and more sculpted than var?

you saw my pics and you know that i'm a naturally "dry kinda guy" so i'm wondering if this dry/bloat stuff is real or it's just horseshit and it really is all just based upon genetics
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: whitewidow on December 29, 2013, 12:50:33 AM
does winny really make you drier, harder and more sculpted than var?

you saw my pics and you know that i'm a naturally "dry kinda guy" so i'm wondering if this dry/bloat stuff is real or it's just horseshit and it really is all just based upon genetics

It is not bullshit winstrol pulls water from your body wich will cause joint pain. If I were only allowed to take one of the compounds I would pick Anavar but I like stacking the both of them together with a small dose of Test.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: OTHstrong on December 29, 2013, 12:54:00 AM
there are 2 main genetics traits that allow you to be naturally dry, 1. you have low levels of estrogen and 2. you do not store large amounts of sodium or simply lack the hormones to do so.

In other words you are already 3 quarters of the way there without the winny, so you will not benefit as much as someone who holds on to water more.

there is no horse shit here with agents that dry but we each have a different starting point, nothing more.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on December 29, 2013, 01:05:08 AM
thanks for the feedback dude
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2013, 05:50:38 AM
Deca, eq, anavar were good to me. Didn't try winstrol cause even thinking about it makes my scalp itch.

Primo not?

Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2013, 05:52:58 AM
Congratulations for not experiencing hair loss with anything!

And not everyone will be bald but everybody loses hair with age. I'm not gonna use anything that's gonna speed the process... fuck that.

Every AAS speeds up the process bro
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2013, 05:57:00 AM
yeah bro anything can cause hair loss if dosed high enough for sure...even the ones that are supposed to be mild. 500 mg of test I get double the shed I do on 250.

And tren which is completely unrelated to dht in any sense is said to be pretty harsh for hair loss in those prone.

So it has to do with the androgenic affinity to scalp and follicles of each steroid because some are worse than others no doubt about that.

And yeah the itchy scalp is a sign of oncoming hair loss just as itchy nips are warning sign of gyno.

There is anti dht topic called RU.
It ONLY blocks the dht in the SCALP

try out
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 29, 2013, 06:01:03 AM
There is anti dht topic called RU.
It ONLY blocks the dht in the SCALP

try out

I mean offcourse Anti DHT topic solution (3/5%)
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 29, 2013, 06:06:27 AM
I got a friend he got Alopecia lost every hair on his body overnight his wife left him with two kids but is a great person never took a steroid in his life.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Borracho on December 29, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
There is anti dht topic called RU.
It ONLY blocks the dht in the SCALP

try out

Have you used it?

And I haven't tried primo and don't plan on it.

I got a friend he got Alopecia lost every hair on his body overnight his wife left him with two kids but is a great person never took a steroid in his life.

What a whore!
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 29, 2013, 10:04:54 AM
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 30, 2013, 02:09:34 PM
Have you used it?

And I haven't tried primo and don't plan on it.

What a whore!

Still not used it. others i know yes and they explained RU is the a very good thing combining with all kinds of AAS
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Borracho on December 30, 2013, 03:36:51 PM
Still not used it. others i know yes and they explained RU is the a very good thing combining with all kinds of AAS

Yeah this would work in cases when finasteride and duta don't.

I wonder why they're taking so long with getting this to the market though  ???
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Christo on December 31, 2013, 08:51:07 AM
Yeah this would work in cases when finasteride and duta don't.

I wonder why they're taking so long with getting this to the market though  ???


RU can be used with every sort of AAS

Tja maybe it will come in the future on the big market.
Price issues maybe because it is quite expensive
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on December 31, 2013, 03:38:46 PM
found this quote on another board regarding car vs. winny

"Well my opinion is that when you cycle winny you will get more lean mass then with Anavar. When it comes down on strength i would say anavar is a better choice.

I have a lot of guys on 40mg/day Winny tabs for about 7 weeks. They gained up to 3-5kg after ending their cycles

People in my surrounding that take Anavar on 60mg/day for about 8 weeks..them guys gained not much but still where very satisfied with the strength and muscle look. Gains they've made where 2-3kg

Imo both of these roids are fine cutters..but i prefer winny myself. More muscles for less money"
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: OTHstrong on December 31, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
found this quote on another board regarding car vs. winny

"Well my opinion is that when you cycle winny you will get more lean mass then with Anavar. When it comes down on strength i would say anavar is a better choice.

I have a lot of guys on 40mg/day Winny tabs for about 7 weeks. They gained up to 3-5kg after ending their cycles

People in my surrounding that take Anavar on 60mg/day for about 8 weeks..them guys gained not much but still where very satisfied with the strength and muscle look. Gains they've made where 2-3kg

Imo both of these roids are fine cutters..but i prefer winny myself. More muscles for less money"
this is old news here. We are in a different era's now, nobody takes either to build muscle. You want muscle you crank the anadrol, waste of time trying to build muscles with either var or winny.

They are what you call the finishing touch, that's it.
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Shockwave on December 31, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
found this quote on another board regarding car vs. winny

"Well my opinion is that when you cycle winny you will get more lean mass then with Anavar. When it comes down on strength i would say anavar is a better choice.

I have a lot of guys on 40mg/day Winny tabs for about 7 weeks. They gained up to 3-5kg after ending their cycles

People in my surrounding that take Anavar on 60mg/day for about 8 weeks..them guys gained not much but still where very satisfied with the strength and muscle look. Gains they've made where 2-3kg

Imo both of these roids are fine cutters..but i prefer winny myself. More muscles for less money"
you decided to quit fucking around and wasting your time and breath when you know the course to make real results?
No?

very well, carry on throwing money, time, and your liver in the toilet for bo good reason.

FYI a random small chick at my gym is getting ready to do a cycle of Anavar. A chick. That doesn't compete.

Youre using drug cycles of the bikini whore class and strippers everywhere.

Let that sink in for a second.

Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 01, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
found this quote on another board regarding car vs. winny

"Well my opinion is that when you cycle winny you will get more lean mass then with Anavar. When it comes down on strength i would say anavar is a better choice.

I have a lot of guys on 40mg/day Winny tabs for about 7 weeks. They gained up to 3-5kg after ending their cycles

People in my surrounding that take Anavar on 60mg/day for about 8 weeks..them guys gained not much but still where very satisfied with the strength and muscle look. Gains they've made where 2-3kg

Imo both of these roids are fine cutters..but i prefer winny myself. More muscles for less money"
For what reason do you take steroids?
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: dj181 on January 01, 2014, 02:11:51 PM
For what reason do you take steroids?

good question

basically to look craved out of granite with dense rock hard muscles, and that's exactly why i want to focus on these so-called weak orals

i'll finish up the var here soon and then run the winny just to see how i react to it, but at the end of the day, i'll probably just stay on low dose var ie. @ 20-40 mg per day

var is relatively mild and i feel even better on it than i did on dbol

my final goal is 75-77 kg @ 6%

right now i'm back to 6% and i weigh 72 kg so 3-5 kg should be doable within the next 6 months or so

i just gotta curb my training enthusiasm and stop training every goddamn fucking single day ::)

if i can get myself down to the point where i train not every single day and put 6-8 days btw bodyparts then i'll hit this goal by june, and i'm very certain and confident about this, no question about it (i just sabotage myself with compulsive training like a fucking dumbass dipshit ::))
Title: Re: winny vs. var
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 01, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
good question

basically to look craved out of granite with dense rock hard muscles, and that's exactly why i want to focus on these so-called weak orals

i'll finish up the var here soon and then run the winny just to see how i react to it, but at the end of the day, i'll probably just stay on low dose var ie. @ 20-40 mg per day

var is relatively mild and i feel even better on it than i did on dbol

my final goal is 75-77 kg @ 6%

right now i'm back to 6% and i weigh 72 kg so 3-5 kg should be doable within the next 6 months or so

i just gotta curb my training enthusiasm and stop training every goddamn fucking single day ::)

if i can get myself down to the point where i train not every single day and put 6-8 days btw bodyparts then i'll hit this goal by june, and i'm very certain and confident about this, no question about it (i just sabotage myself with compulsive training like a fucking dumbass dipshit ::))

So take it upon yourself to do this.