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Why does the U.S. and the U.K. feel the need to force their abnormal values on other countries around the world? ???
Russian President Putin links gays to pedophiles
By Lynn Berry, The Associated Press
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President Vladimir Putin gives an interview to Russian and foreign journalists in Sochi on January 19, 2014.
MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered new assurances to gay athletes and fans
attending the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics next month. Yet he defended Russia's anti-gay law by
equating gays with pedophiles and said Russia needs to "cleanse" itself of homosexuality if it wants to
increase its birth rate.
Putin's comments in an interview broadcast Sunday with Russian and foreign television stations
showed the wide gulf between the perception of homosexuality in Russia versus the West.
A Russian law passed last year banning "propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations" among minors
has caused an international outcry.
Putin refused to answer a question from the BBC on whether he believes that people are born gay or
become gay. The Russian law, however, suggests that information about homosexuality can influence
a child's sexual orientation.
The law has contributed to growing animosity toward gays in Russian society, with rights activists
reporting a rise in harassment and abuse.
International worries about how gays will be treated in Sochi have been met with assurances from
Russian officials and Olympics organizers that there will be no discrimination in Sochi, and Putin
reiterated that stance.
"There are no fears for people with this nontraditional orientation who plan to come to Sochi as guests
or participants," Putin declared in the TV interview.
He said the law was aimed at banning propaganda of homosexuality and pedophilia, suggesting that
gays are more likely to abuse children.
Making another favorite argument against homosexuality, Putin noted with pride that Russia saw
more births than deaths last year for the first time in two decades. Population growth is vital for
Russia's development and "anything that gets in the way of that we should clean up," he said, using a
word usually reserved for military operations.
Putin accused the United States of double standards in its criticism of Russia, pointing to laws that
remain on the books in some U.S. states classifying gay sex as a crime. The U.S. Supreme Court,
however, ruled in 2003 that such laws were unconstitutional.
Homosexuality was a crime in the entire former Soviet Union, which collapsed in 1991. It was
decriminalized in Russia in 1993.
The Sochi Winter Olympics run Feb. 7-23.
© 2014 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed
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Just as I've been saying. You can be influenced from a young age to go gay or both. It's your environment. Putin knows this. It's the truth.
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Just as I've been saying. You can be influenced from a young age to go gay or both. It's your environment. Putin knows this. It's the truth.
Tell us again how Smoking Pot enlightened you
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Tell us again how Smoking Pot enlightened you
You can disagree with me all day. But what I'm saying was conventional thinking until scumbags with agendas came in and changed things over time. It's a mental illness. It's not a natural act.
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Making another favorite argument against homosexuality, Putin noted with pride that Russia saw
more births than deaths last year for the first time in two decades. Population growth is vital for
Russia's development
Putin is actually working to grow the RUSSIAN population instead of just importing hordes of Africans? ???
A head of State looking out for the best interests of his people? :o
Europe should follow his lead
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Just as I've been saying. You can be influenced from a young age to go gay or both. It's your environment. Putin knows this. It's the truth.
Yeah?
What about my friend who grew up in a painfully Christian family who is gay? How did that happen? The poor bastard moved half way across the country because they wouldn't accept him and he only just came out to his friends. His family will never accept him because Christ comes first according to them. I don't see why he has to be punished because you guys have a problem with it.
Here's the thing - I don't care about who's fucking who. If a dude wants to fuck a chick, I don't care. It's not my business. If a guy wants to fuck another guy, I care even less. It kind of disgusts me to think about the dynamics of two moustaches rubbing or dicks smashing together, but hey, if other people like it then I'm happy for them. Because they can have all the sword fights they want and it doesn't affect me whatsoever!
I've got a few gay friends and a gay aunt and I can assure it, it had nothing to do with the environment they were raised in. I do fear that nutters may try spreading their propaganda (I've only ever seen male-hating lesbians do this, never guys) but every group of people has their whack jobs. Gay people are the least threatening of all. It's ironic how people give them such a hard time. It's also very sad. I've seen way too much homosexual violence and it makes me sad how people pray on this weak group.
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You can disagree with me all day. But what I'm saying was conventional thinking until scumbags with agendas came in and changed things over time. It's a mental illness. It's not a natural act.
That's true. There were no gay people in the 50's because TV didn't have it. People only turned gay when they knew about it.
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That's true. There were no gay people in the 50's because TV didn't have it. People only turned gay when they knew about it.
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Just as I've been saying. You can be influenced from a young age to go gay or both. It's your environment. Putin knows this. It's the truth.
present your evidence then that isn't a buybull quote.
you got nothing. i have a gay daughter and I will fight for her rights
against the likes of you as long as I live.
btw at what age did you decide to be straight and what age did you decide
to be a christian. let me help you. you didn't decide either one.
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Yeah?
What about my friend who grew up in a painfully Christian family who is gay? How did that happen? The poor bastard moved half way across the country because they wouldn't accept him and he only just came out to his friends. His family will never accept him because Christ comes first according to them. I don't see why he has to be punished because you guys have a problem with it.
Here's the thing - I don't care about who's fucking who. If a dude wants to fuck a chick, I don't care. It's not my business. If a guy wants to fuck another guy, I care even less. It kind of disgusts me to think about the dynamics of two moustaches rubbing or dicks smashing together, but hey, if other people like it then I'm happy for them. Because they can have all the sword fights they want and it doesn't affect me whatsoever!
I've got a few gay friends and a gay aunt and I can assure it, it had nothing to do with the environment they were raised in. I do fear that nutters may try spreading their propaganda (I've only ever seen male-hating lesbians do this, never guys) but every group of people has their whack jobs. Gay people are the least threatening of all. It's ironic how people give them such a hard time. It's also very sad. I've seen way too much homosexual violence and it makes me sad how people pray on this weak group.
I do care whose fucking who because when it gets to the levels it's gotten to, it affects society. People passing it off as normal are also sick. There's nothing normal and ok about it. It's an ill to society. I don't nor have I ever advocated gay bashing or violence against them. Matter of fact, if you look in my post history, you'll see I say I hate the sin not the sinner. But there is an obvious agenda being pushed and it's flatout wrong. This isn't the first time societies have gone through this homosexual behavior bullshit. It never ends well for them either. It won't this time either. You don't get to do whatever you want on this planet that's not natural and not believe there won't be consequences. I've been through this in other threads. It's environment, misguided feelings, and abuse. Acting on these feelings is wrong and an ill to society. Believe it or not I do know people that are gay and lesbian and I consider them close to me. Out of respect for them, I don't go off on tangents like this. It's not going to accomplish anything. But, what they're doing is wrong no matter how nice or "good" they are.
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If two consenting adults get their rocks off through homosexual intercourse, where is the harm? Honest question.
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Well, if increasing the population is the issue then they should ban priests as well then. Celibate monks can't help increase the population either.
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I do care whose fucking who because when it gets to the levels it's gotten to, it affects society. People passing it off as normal are also sick. There's nothing normal and ok about it. It's an ill to society. I don't nor have I ever advocated gay bashing or violence against them. Matter of fact, if you look in my post history, you'll see I say I hate the sin not the sinner. But there is an obvious agenda being pushed and it's flatout wrong. This isn't the first time societies have gone through this homosexual behavior bullshit. It never ends well for them either. It won't this time either. You don't get to do whatever you want on this planet that's not natural and not believe there won't be consequences. I've been through this in other threads. It's environment, misguided feelings, and abuse. Acting on these feelings is wrong and an ill to society. Believe it or not I do know people that are gay and lesbian and I consider them close to me. Out of respect for them, I don't go off on tangents like this. It's not going to accomplish anything. But, what they're doing is wrong no matter how nice or "good" they are.
lol agenda? Some people are just attracted to other people who have the same set of genetals. I'll humor the notion that maybe it is a "sickness" for a moment - even in that scenario there is no agenda. No one's trying to spread propaganda. They're just trying to not live in fear.
I will admit that I do feel uncomfortable with the excessively flamboyant and sexually charged gay parades. You wouldn't see me bringing my little girl to one of those. But when my girl is old enough and communicate, I will introduce her to her gay aunt and let her know that she's in a same-sex relationship. She's never tried spreading any propaganda and keeps to herself. My best friend Phil has also never tried spreading anything. He's a huge bodybuilder but is too timid to come out publicly for fears of being attacked physically and mentally. A lot of these people are still in fear, Wiggs. Fear from people like you who persecute them and call them sick or sinners. You're a horrible person.
I actually just went to coffee with my wife's old boss Tommy who's as flaming as they come. Tommy's a manager at Starbucks and is as gay as the day is long. He physically could not hurt a fly. And mentally, he doesn't have it in him to be a terrible or violent person either. The discussion actually came up as we were talking about my new girl and children in general. He said he's still living in fear despite having come out of the closet years ago. These people are not a threat, Wiggs. You're fucking sick. They just want to live in peace.
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present your evidence then that isn't a buybull quote.
you got nothing. i have a gay daughter and I will fight for her rights
against the likes of you as long as I live.
btw at what age did you decide to be straight and what age did you decide
to be a christian. let me help you. you didn't decide either one.
Present your evidence its genetic......I thought so.
You can fight for her rights all day. Good luck.
You're born straight and something comes along and fucks that up. There's your answer. I'm not a Christian but I'm a follower of Christ.
We're not going to agree on this or religion so it's best you and I avoid these conversations. You've got alot more on your plate to worry about...Or you should be worrying about it.
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I do care whose fucking who because when it gets to the levels it's gotten to, it affects society. People passing it off as normal are also sick. There's nothing normal and ok about it. It's an ill to society. I don't nor have I ever advocated gay bashing or violence against them. Matter of fact, if you look in my post history, you'll see I say I hate the sin not the sinner. But there is an obvious agenda being pushed and it's flatout wrong. This isn't the first time societies have gone through this homosexual behavior bullshit. It never ends well for them either. It won't this time either. You don't get to do whatever you want on this planet that's not natural and not believe there won't be consequences. I've been through this in other threads. It's environment, misguided feelings, and abuse. Acting on these feelings is wrong and an ill to society. Believe it or not I do know people that are gay and lesbian and I consider them close to me. Out of respect for them, I don't go off on tangents like this. It's not going to accomplish anything. But, what they're doing is wrong no matter how nice or "good" they are.
Wiggs, what's your view on arse to mouth in heterosexual couples. Is this natural? And what about the list of animals displaying homosexual behaviour:
Bison
Brown Bear
Brown Rat
Cavy
Caribou
Cat (domestic)
Cattle (domestic)
Chimpanzee
Common Dolphin
Common Marmoset
Dog
Elephant
Fox
Giraffe
Goat
Horse (domestic)
Koala
Lion
Orca
Raccoon
Will they go to hell? Were they raised wrong? And what about hermaphrodite animals that self-fertilize? Are they unnatural and is what they are doing morally wrong? Are hermaphrodite animals that make love to themselves morally wrong? Will God punish them?
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people who believe a sky daddy watches over them every second and loves
and cares about them is a sure sign of mental illness.
all the while over 20,000 children die on this planet each and every day
while your god does fuck all nothing. except to support clergy who rape
little children and continue to do so. in other words you god if it exists
supports, aids and abets pedophile baby rapist.
sane thinking says it doesn't exist. so does the scientific theory of evolution.
do remember a scientific theory is not the same as a non scientific theory.
a scientific theory is taken as fact and the best information we have to date.
although if found to be wrong, science quickly corrects itself. religion not ever
remember you didn't decide to become christian or straight, you were given no choice.
when an amputee walks out of a hospital with a new limb then I will believe.
tell the rapist fucktard to hurry up
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PUTIN A PIECE OF KGB SHIT
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oh and if you doubt the theory of evolution I would like
to invite you to my tenth floor apartment to test the theory of gravity.
I could be wrong but you can prove a scientific theory as false.
will make you a millionaire
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Present your evidence its genetic......I thought so.
You can fight for her rights all day. Good luck.
You're born straight and something comes along and fucks that up. There's your answer. I'm not a Christian but I'm a follower of Christ.
We're not going to agree on this or religion so it's best you and I avoid these conversations. You've got alot more on your plate to worry about...Or you should be worrying about it.
oh no you don't get to decide when a debate is over or not. anytime you run your lips
and insult my blood as you just have I will attack you each and every time.
and your answer was nothing. something comes along? present your evidence.
or bail as all of you do when you're cornered with no where to go. or make up your own facts.
godgobblers are good for that. and supporting child rape
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If two consenting adults get their rocks off through homosexual intercourse, where is the harm? Honest question.
That's a question that I always pose but I get no good responses.
I don't give a shit about who fucks who. And I give less of a shit when it's two people of the same sex, unless it's very hot lesbians on my computer screen and I've got a box of Kleenex nearby.
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lol agenda? Some people are just attracted to other people who have the same set of genetals. I'll humor the notion that maybe it is a "sickness" for a moment - even in that scenario there is no agenda. No one's trying to spread propaganda. They're just trying to not live in fear.
I will admit that I do feel uncomfortable with the excessively flamboyant and sexually charged gay parades. You wouldn't see me bringing my little girl to one of those. But when my girl is old enough and communicate, I will introduce her to her gay aunt and let her know that she's in a same-sex relationship. She's never tried spreading any propaganda and keeps to herself. My best friend Phil has also never tried spreading anything. He's a huge bodybuilder but is too timid to come out publicly for fears of being attacked physically and mentally. A lot of these people are still in fear, Wiggs. Fear from people like you who persecute them and call them sick or sinners. You're a horrible person.
I actually just went to coffee with my wife's old boss Tommy who's as flaming as they come. Tommy's a manager at Starbucks and is as gay as the day is long. He physically could not hurt a fly. And mentally, he doesn't have it in him to be a terrible or violent person either. The discussion actually came up as we were talking about my new girl and children in general. He said he's still living in fear despite having come out of the closet years ago. These people are not a threat, Wiggs. You're fucking sick. They just want to live in peace.
Listen I no offense. I don't care about how nice Tommy or anyone else gay is. Being nice is not an excuse for this behavior. You seem to want to ignore what I'm saying. ITS AN ILL ON SOCIETY. AN UNNATURAL ACT. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL. IT IS A SIN. I don't care if you disagree with me. Your friends have zero power or influence to affect anything. We're talking homos with power and influence. Don't play stupid and don't play semantics. You fucks are the sick ones. Overwhelming majority of people on this planet will side with me. This place America is a place for degenerate behaviors. This will never EVER be accepted behavior by the majority on the planet. Why? Because it's wrong.
Fear? Thank God the Bible talks about this shit and how it will end if no repentance... :-*
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Present your evidence its genetic......I thought so.
You can fight for her rights all day. Good luck.
You're born straight and something comes along and fucks that up. There's your answer. I'm not a Christian but I'm a follower of Christ.
We're not going to agree on this or religion so it's best you and I avoid these conversations. You've got alot more on your plate to worry about...Or you should be worrying about it.
Some have suggested Christ was gay, would you still follow him if that is the case?
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Listen I no offense. I don't care about how nice Tommy or anyone else gay is. Being nice is not an excuse for this behavior. You seem to want to ignore what I'm saying. ITS AN ILL ON SOCIETY. AN UNNATURAL ACT. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL. IT IS A SIN. I don't care if you disagree with me. Your friends have zero power or influence to affect anything. We're talking homos with power and influence. Don't play stupid and don't play semantics. You fucks are the sick ones. Overwhelming majority of people on this planet will side with me. This place America is a place for degenerate behaviors. This will never EVER be accepted behavior by the majority on the planet. Why? Because it's wrong.
Fear? Thank God the Bible talks about this shit and how it will end if no repentance... :-*
It's taking synthetic drugs and vitamins, women using contraception, eating genetically and laboratory engineered food etc unatural? Are these things also immoral and unacceptable?
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Wiggs, what's your view on arse to mouth in heterosexual couples. Is this natural? And what about the list of animals displaying homosexual behaviour:
Bison
Brown Bear
Brown Rat
Cavy
Caribou
Cat (domestic)
Cattle (domestic)
Chimpanzee
Common Dolphin
Common Marmoset
Dog
Elephant
Fox
Giraffe
Goat
Horse (domestic)
Koala
Lion
Orca
Raccoon
Will they go to hell? Were they raised wrong? And what about hermaphrodite animals that self-fertilize? Are they unnatural and is what they are doing morally wrong? Are hermaphrodite animals that make love to themselves morally wrong? Will God punish them?
And you? (What is it with all the Aussies on this board being creepers and or idiots?) (Minus Booty of course) I know your track record here about religion so why would I waste my time arguing with you? You bring nothing to these conversations but ignorance so I'm not going to bother answering your question. I thought you left this site anyway?
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Some have suggested Christ was gay, would you still follow him if that is the case?
Some have suggested 2+2=5. WTF?
When you don't know the Bible, you ask ignorant questions like this.
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wiggs just be sure not to tell any of us if you are scheduled to work
on sunday, or eat shell fish or wear mixed fabrics.
the stoning venue is booked way in advance and it would be
difficult to accommodate you. it's sure to be a gay old time.
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Listen I no offense. I don't care about how nice Tommy or anyone else gay is. Being nice is not an excuse for this behavior. You seem to want to ignore what I'm saying. ITS AN ILL ON SOCIETY. AN UNNATURAL ACT. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL. IT IS A SIN. I don't care if you disagree with me. Your friends have zero power or influence to affect anything. We're talking homos with power and influence. Don't play stupid and don't play semantics. You fucks are the sick ones. Overwhelming majority of people on this planet will side with me. This place America is a place for degenerate behaviors. This will never EVER be accepted behavior by the majority on the planet. Why? Because it's wrong.
Fear? Thank God the Bible talks about this shit and how it will end if no repentance... :-*
Wiggs, I've never been harmed by a gay person in my life. And I think if any gay person I knew did try to hurt me, they physically and mentally would not be able to.
There is something very wrong with you. You feel threatened by people who are not threatening. You are the sick one and I sincerely wish that you find help.
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oh no you don't get to decide when a debate is over or not. anytime you run your lips
and insult my blood as you just have I will attack you each and every time.
and your answer was nothing. something comes along? present your evidence.
or bail as all of you do when you're cornered with no where to go. or make up your own facts.
godgobblers are good for that. and supporting child rape
This debate didn't originally involve you so consider it a blessing I'm even addressing you. Fuck you and fuck your daughter. Don't bring the bitch in conversations and if you don't want her talked about. You did it. Not me. This is twice today I made you look like an idiot. Do you want to go for a hat trick grandpa? Now do you wanna keep going or should we stop here. I told you already. We're not going to agree and stop and you took it here. Now fuck off.
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I feel good knowing that people like Wiggs are becoming less in number everyday. More and more states are legalizing gay marriage and there's nothing he can do about it :D
EDIT: looks like he's getting angry too lololol
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Yeah?
What about my friend who grew up in a painfully Christian family who is gay? How did that happen? The poor bastard moved half way across the country because they wouldn't accept him and he only just came out to his friends. His family will never accept him because Christ comes first according to them. I don't see why he has to be punished because you guys have a problem with it.
Here's the thing - I don't care about who's fucking who. If a dude wants to fuck a chick, I don't care. It's not my business. If a guy wants to fuck another guy, I care even less. It kind of disgusts me to think about the dynamics of two moustaches rubbing or dicks smashing together, but hey, if other people like it then I'm happy for them. Because they can have all the sword fights they want and it doesn't affect me whatsoever!
I've got a few gay friends and a gay aunt and I can assure it, it had nothing to do with the environment they were raised in. I do fear that nutters may try spreading their propaganda (I've only ever seen male-hating lesbians do this, never guys) but every group of people has their whack jobs. Gay people are the least threatening of all. It's ironic how people give them such a hard time. It's also very sad. I've seen way too much homosexual violence and it makes me sad how people pray on this weak group.
"a friend"
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Wiggs, I've never been harmed by a gay person in my life. And I think if any gay person I knew did try to hurt me, they physically and mentally would not be able to.
There is something very wrong with you. You feel threatened by people who are not threatening. You are the sick one and I sincerely wish that you find help.
Anything else Dustin? I think you're on repeat. Fuck off with the queer shit. You're talking in circles.
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I feel good knowing that people like Wiggs are becoming less in number everyday. More and more states are legalizing gay marriage and there's nothing he can do about it :D
EDIT: looks like he's getting angry too lololol
Good luck... :-*
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Good luck... :-*
You too, amigo....I think you'll need it more ;D
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Some have suggested 2+2=5. WTF?
When you don't know the buybull, you ask ignorant questions like this.
i thought you didn't want to debate this topic. lie much?
best you step aside. you're way out of your league and sky daddy
is going to do fuck all nothing to help you.
btw which buybull is the right one as there are at least 30 different versions
of the new testament. they can't all be right.
but
they all can be wrong. evolution proves it
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Anything else Dustin? I think you're on repeat. Fuck off with the queer shit. You're talking in circles.
You're the one preaching to the choir, bro. No one gives a shit about God's will except for people who believe that fairies and deities really exist.
The fact of the matter is that sometimes animals of the same sex fuck each other. Deal with it. There are no "rules", only the ones religious people fabricate.
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The saddest irony of all is that Wiggs is probably the biggest homosexual of all, and his religious indoctrination has forced him to push his homosexual longings to his deepest unconscious where it can only be revealed by his rampant homophobia. His homophobia is a projection of his hatred for his own, albeit unconscious homosexual desires. ;D
Homophobia is the perfect example of self loathing.
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You too, amigo....I think you'll need it more ;D
Actually...I won't. You have a false sense of security Amigo. ;)
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Dustin, Ekul, buffnet, all non-believers in God...All support homosexuals...typical... Good day gents.
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You can disagree with me all day. But what I'm saying was conventional thinking until scumbags with agendas came in and changed things over time. It's a mental illness. It's not a natural act.
Chimps bum each other.
http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
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I feel good knowing that people like Wiggs are becoming less in number everyday. More and more states are legalizing gay marriage and there's nothing he can do about it :D
EDIT: looks like he's getting angry too lololol
hear hear!! on behalf of my daughter thank you sir.
I hope he's getting angry as I intend to attack him to the point
at the mere suggestion of killing his neighbors gay gold fish,
he will go and do it.
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Dustin, Ekul, buffnet, all non-believers in God...All support homosexuals...typical... Good day gents.
So did Jesus !!! :o
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You gents talk among yourselves and high five each other. Believing you got anywhere with this conversation (especially under my skin..lol) Then go outside and let reality hit you...They can pass all the laws they want. The general public will never accept this as normal. You can keep trying though. :-*
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Dustin, Ekul, buffnet, all non-believers in God...All support homosexuals...typical... Good day gents.
pussy
you may need this.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aODsujg8vWU/UkgqugK5-JI/AAAAAAAAABM/nLZbFVrJF_8/s1600/butthurt.jpg)
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:P
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You gents talk among yourselves and high five each other. Believing you got anywhere with this conversation (especially under my skin..lol) Then go outside and let reality hit you...They can pass all the laws they want. The general public will never accept this as normal. You can keep trying though. :-*
The Bible promoted slavery also, should society reintroduce such a thing?
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hear hear!! on behalf of my daughter thank you sir.
I hope he's getting angry as I intend to attack him to the point
at the mere suggestion of killing his neighbors gay gold fish,
he will go and do it.
Of course, all the best to you and your daughter. It won't be long before a constitutional amendment is passed, ensuring equal rights regardless of sexual orientation.
I'm surprised Wiggs is so quick to condemn a disenfranchised minority. How quickly he forgets, it isn't long since his kind was discriminated against systematically.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, it would seem.
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That's true. There were no gay people in the 50's because TV didn't have it. People only turned gay when they knew about it.
True. Cavemen were not gay either.
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Dustin, Ekul, buffnet, all non-believers in God...All support homosexuals...typical... Good day gents.
I wouldn't say I "support them", I just don't discriminate against them. I have no reason to. I don't discriminate against Hebrews like yourself. Doesn't mean there's a big conspiracy and I'm a secret Hebrew lover sowing the seeds of propaganda. Just another set of people that I don't give a shit about unless someone victimizes them. Then I'll have a reason to speak out. As well, if there was a God he would not discriminate.
I'm also not entirely certain that there isn't some sort of celestial mother brain that helped to somehow create the universe. But that celestial being, algorithm or force of nature certainly doesn't sit in the clouds hurling lightning bolts and hating on gays. And that celestial being certainly wouldn't let the tainted hand of man write out an instruction booklet which would be scribed by filthy monks and never updated for thousands of years.
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One has to laugh at the irony of the largest pedophilia network in the world labelling homosexuality perverse. ::)
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I think the sad part is we are not allowed to express differing opinions without sounding hateful. If sexual orientation is biologically determined why are we so hateful towards pedophiles; I know children need to be protected Im asking because we become hypocrites when we only defend specific orientations. For years "the church" justified racism and slavery in the name of Christ, however when we learned and accepted, culturally, that this was wrong and hateful we outlawed it (this being said many hide/justify actions behind God will, Christian, Muslim, etc...). Putin wants to increase his population and sees homosexuality as a negative and this causes an uproar; China wants more male children and will kill off female babies yet we remain silent. As people we have a lot of issues, one generations scientific fact becomes anothers mythology. We know what we've learnt and are taught and those ideas are forever changing.
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I think the sad part is we are not allowed to express differing opinions without sounding hateful. If sexual orientation is biologically determined why are we so hateful towards pedophiles; I know children need to be protected Im asking because we become hypocrites when we only defend specific orientations. For years "the church" justified racism and slavery in the name of Christ, however when we learned and accepted, culturally, that this was wrong and hateful we outlawed it (this being said many hide/justify actions behind God will, Christian, Muslim, etc...). Putin wants to increase his population and sees homosexuality as a negative and this causes an uproar; China wants more male children and will kill off female babies yet we remain silent. As people we have a lot of issues, one generations scientific fact becomes anothers mythology. We know what we've learnt and are taught and those ideas are forever changing.
China doesn't want more male children, the choice to kill the female infants is made on an individual level simply because Males offer more value in a society that limits a families reproductive rights to one child. What good is a woman whose greatest advantage is reproducing when she is limited to one child, best to have a male child and benefit from the greater resources they can provide. It's a matter of being practical.
In an overpopulated world, where the possibility of restrictions being placed on reproductive rights, homosexuals should be embraced as they won't reproduce and this gives heterosexuals a greater chance to have more children.
DO we really want to force people like Ted Haggard to reproduce?
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What I take away from this thread is that people like Wiggs should not be able to have an opinion and express it because some people get upset. Not just upset but really really upset.
looool. you guys need to visit 99% of the world. You guys should relax and enjoy your position of being able to voice support for homosexuals and homosexual tolerance. Instead what I see here is everyone trying to shove "gaydom" down Wiggs throat. Wiggs clearly does not like gay people for reasons unknown. Why does every here get so riled up?
Also its Russia so who gives a fuck? Russia is a crazy place.
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E-Kul my point exactly; society and culture set the standards that determine norms.
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I think the sad part is we are not allowed to express differing opinions without sounding hateful. If sexual orientation is biologically determined why are we so hateful towards pedophiles; I know children need to be protected Im asking because we become hypocrites when we only defend specific orientations.
The reason is because there's a far greater dynamic that needs to be considered. Children aren't consenting adults and never will be. So that argument is tossed out the window forever. And that's me being completely objective and trying to be calm as fuck. I think kiddy diddlers should be tortured in the worst way. I can empathize if someone has perverse thoughts, but at the end of the day I want to see them burn.
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The reason is because there's a far greater dynamic that needs to be considered. Children aren't consenting adults and never will be. So that argument is tossed out the window forever. And that's me being completely objective and trying to be calm as fuck. I think kiddy diddlers should be tortured in the worst way. I can empathize if someone has perverse thoughts, but at the end of the day I want to see them burn.
Im not disagreeing, as I said children need protection, however I was discussing sexual orientation, we can't seem to agree ifs predetermined or a decision; so the argument is legitimate. Sexual orientation discussion causes a lot of debate. Nobody is defending pedophilia the question is how we decide what determines an individuals orientation.
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One has to laugh at the irony of the largest pedophilia network in the world labelling homosexuality perverse. ::)
dunno if you know this. to anyone who could use this info.
there is a news paper from the freedom from religion foundation (who I support
out my disability check) that every month publishes black collar crime. this includes arrests/charged, pleaded/convicted, sentenced, civil lawsuits filed, lawsuits settled, legal developments and removed resigned.
this includes all crimes from getting busted for seeing prostitutes, to fraud murder
and of course child abuse/rape.
what this record shows (it is all 100% sourced) is that the pedophilia and other crimes
is rampant throughout each and every religion there is. from muslimes, to jewbastards
to christians of all brands and even hindu and buddhism.
without a doubt organized religion poisons everything and is a pyramid scheme
that puts bernie madoff to shame.
may be hard to tell but humanity is winning as people leave their churches in droves.
there is even a place where clergy who are tired of living the lie can to seek help
in order to leave the lie and have hope of returning to a civilized society.
http://clergyproject.org/
I also support this outcampaign.org/ which is a place for individuals to let others know they are not alone. it's not a gay org it's an atheist org. and lastly I financially support richarddawkins.net foundation for science and reason
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I think the sad part is we are not allowed to express differing opinions without sounding hateful.
then just get over it. pc has no place on these issues. I give no shits if I sound hateful.
i do in fact hate religious fucks who condemn my own blood based on mythology and deny science.
If sexual orientation is biologically determined why are we so hateful towards pedophiles; I know children need to be protected Im asking because we become hypocrites when we only defend specific orientations.
it's not being hypocritical what so ever. quit being pc.
For years "the church" justified racism and slavery in the name of Christ,
they still do. anyone that hates another member of society is a racist period.
Putin wants to increase his population and sees homosexuality as a negative and this causes an uproar
he's a murderous thug and that's all you need consider.
China wants more male children and will kill off female babies yet christians remain silent.
i fixed that for you for truth.
As people we have a lot of issues, one generations scientific fact becomes anothers mythology. We know what we've learnt and are taught and those ideas are forever changing.
and that is the beauty of science. religion refuses to change, science welcomes being proven wrong
and adapts to truth and nothing less. when godgobblers claim god musta done it, science speaks to truth, which is, we don't know yet.
but we will as we are working on it.
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then just get over it. pc has no place on these issues. I give no shits if I sound hateful.
i do in fact hate religious fucks who condemn my own blood based on mythology and deny science.
it's not being hypocritical what so ever. quit being pc.
they still do. anyone that hates another member of society is a racist period. he's a murderous thug and that's all you need consider.
i fixed that for you for truth.
and that is the beauty of science. religion refuses to change, science welcomes being proven wrong
and adapts to truth and nothing less. when godgobblers claim god musta done it, science speaks to truth, which is, we don't know yet.
but we will
Glad you've got all the answers, hopefully you're helping society advance. Keep up the good work.
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Why does the U.S. and the U.K. feel the need to force their abnormal values on other countries around the world? ??[/b]?
Russian President Putin links gays to pedophiles
By Lynn Berry, The Associated Press
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President Vladimir Putin gives an interview to Russian and foreign journalists in Sochi on January 19, 2014.
MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered new assurances to gay athletes and fans
attending the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics next month. Yet he defended Russia's anti-gay law by
equating gays with pedophiles and said Russia needs to "cleanse" itself of homosexuality if it wants to
increase its birth rate.
Putin's comments in an interview broadcast Sunday with Russian and foreign television stations
showed the wide gulf between the perception of homosexuality in Russia versus the West.
A Russian law passed last year banning "propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations" among minors
has caused an international outcry.
Putin refused to answer a question from the BBC on whether he believes that people are born gay or
become gay. The Russian law, however, suggests that information about homosexuality can influence
a child's sexual orientation.
The law has contributed to growing animosity toward gays in Russian society, with rights activists
reporting a rise in harassment and abuse.
International worries about how gays will be treated in Sochi have been met with assurances from
Russian officials and Olympics organizers that there will be no discrimination in Sochi, and Putin
reiterated that stance.
"There are no fears for people with this nontraditional orientation who plan to come to Sochi as guests
or participants," Putin declared in the TV interview.
He said the law was aimed at banning propaganda of homosexuality and pedophilia, suggesting that
gays are more likely to abuse children.
Making another favorite argument against homosexuality, Putin noted with pride that Russia saw
more births than deaths last year for the first time in two decades. Population growth is vital for
Russia's development and "anything that gets in the way of that we should clean up," he said, using a
word usually reserved for military operations.
Putin accused the United States of double standards in its criticism of Russia, pointing to laws that
remain on the books in some U.S. states classifying gay sex as a crime. The U.S. Supreme Court,
however, ruled in 2003 that such laws were unconstitutional.
Homosexuality was a crime in the entire former Soviet Union, which collapsed in 1991. It was
decriminalized in Russia in 1993.
The Sochi Winter Olympics run Feb. 7-23.
© 2014 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed
Population control.
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You can disagree with me all day. But what I'm saying was conventional thinking until scumbags with agendas came in and changed things over time. It's a mental illness. It's not a natural act.
you know wiggs I use to think you were just a nutty fucker but the more I read the more sense you make ;)
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FUCK THE POPE
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Wiggs is a closeted homosexual.
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Wiggs is a closeted homosexual.
your mom is a dirty whore, so why judge.
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This is the way I see it.
1. It's a choice and not a genetic predisposition.
2. I don't understand the hate toward gays.
3. This thing in Russia started when some gay protests turned obscene in public with nudity and other nonsense. That's when he cracked down and said you will not do this in Red Square disgracing our country. Then all hell broke loose in the US with anti Putin stories all over the liberal press.
No Homo
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1. It's a choice and not a genetic predisposition.
I'm gonna say no, most often not. For men, anyway. Genetic, usually, sometimes environmental, or a combination of the two.
My girlfriend's nephews are twins, same parenting, schooling, friends, everything. No trauma in either case. At a very early age, one became interested in sports, cars, superheroes, etc., but his brother preferred to play "dress-up." Princess outfits, make-up, the whole deal. No interest in boy stuff at all, despite encouragement from his brother.
He's still too young to express any romantic inclinations, but it's pretty obvious to everyone which way he'll go. The only environmental component present is that his folks allowed him to entertain his feminine interests, but the desire was already there.
No way for me to explain away genetics in this case.
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Right or wrong, in an age of populists politicians Putin stands tall, he may not be always right but he leads he doesn't just look to appeal to voters from all walks of life like our weak western leaders who bankrupt countries with welfare policies with only their re election in mind, I think his conservative stance on homosexuality is fine, it shouldn't be punished but its shouldn't dominate political debate, the Saudis who let the USA exploit it for oil at the right price cut your head off for being gay, but lets focus on Putin and Russia, cmon.
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Right or wrong, in an age of populists politicians Putin stands tall, he may not be always right but he leads he doesn't just look to appeal to voters from all walks of life like our weak western leaders who bankrupt countries with welfare policies with only their re election in mind, I think his conservative stance on homosexuality is fine, it shouldn't be punished but its shouldn't dominate political debate, the Saudis who let the USA exploit it for oil at the right price cut your head off for being gay, but lets focus on Putin and Russia, cmon.
Saudi's have oil while Russians have thousands of nukes. hahaha oh brother ;D
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Putin is a light in the darkness. The west spews forth demonic filth, conjured from the foul and filthy souls within it, and the old word casts the demon back with force and honor. AMEN.
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One day we will laugh at all this. The only people who care who sleeps with which sex are those with an agenda: mainly religious people and politicians. Anyone who is enlightened couldn't care less. If no one is being harmed, and there is consent within the law, I say do whatever makes you happy.
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Gay folks are being used for an agenda.
Propaganda emitted by western, future arab, politicians and NGOs is not aligned with equality but with polarizing dissidence.
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Some have suggested Christ was gay, would you still follow him if that is the case?
Ridiculous supposition made in a lame attempt to subvert another's words, for if true He would not be the Christ.
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Putin is a real mans leader.
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putin is alpha as fuck.
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I never thought I'd see the day where I would agree with a foreign leader, especially a Russian, more so than the POTUS.
The only thing Putin did wrong was clarify that he just didn't want queers bothering people.
He was right in his original statements that it is wrong...plain wrong...and has no place among normal people.
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putin is alpha as fuck.
This.
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Well, if increasing the population is the issue then they should ban priests as well then. Celibate monks can't help increase the population either.
You know nothing about russian priests.....congrats dumbest post this week
And don't hide behind the "monks" comment
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You know nothing about russian priests.....congrats dumbest post this week
And don't hide behind the "monks" comment
I know priests the world over like to fuck little boys. ;D
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Putin 2016.
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I know priests the world over like to fuck little boys. ;D
and I know fa99ots burn in hell.....
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Wiggs, I've never been harmed by a gay person in my life. And I think if any gay person I knew did try to hurt me, they physically and mentally would not be able to.
There is something very wrong with you. You feel threatened by people who are not threatening. You are the sick one and I sincerely wish that you find help.
you understand that this post is as bigoted against homosexuals as the person you're addressing it towards right?
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I know priests the world over like to fuck little boys. ;D
yup. and female teachers too. its an epidemic.
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and I know fa99ots burn in hell.....
No you don't, that's just a fantasy you are drawn too to help you deal with the chronic butt hurt you feel at a world that doesn't conform to your ridiculous desires. Hell is a fantasy for the weak minded with absolutely ZERO evidence for, Priests buggering boys is well founded, with countless evidence and even royal commissions into the fact it is epidemic in religions.
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No you don't, that's just a fantasy you are drawn too to help you deal with the chronic butt hurt you feel at a world that doesn't conform to your ridiculous desires. Hell is a fantasy for the weak minded with absolutely ZERO evidence for, Priests buggering boys is well founded, with countless evidence and even royal commissions into the fact it is epidemic in religions.
These are some of the very words that will haunt you 5,000 years from now...when your eternal sentence is still "new" to you. Flame on, boy, flame on.
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you understand that this post is as bigoted against homosexuals as the person you're addressing it towards right?
Don't you think that's a bit of a stretch? How about a little perspective.
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These are some of the very words that will haunt you 5,000 years from now...when your eternal sentence is still "new" to you. Flame on, boy, flame on.
lol, Surely you can't be a grown man and rationally believe in such an idea as hell. This is why indoctrinating children with religion is so abusive, it shuts down their critical thinking abilities so they grow up to make fools of themselves in front of critically minded people.
If it makes you feel better I will play along, OOH, I am so frightened of make believe land !!!
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lol, Surely you can't be a grown man and rationally believe in such an idea as hell. This is why indoctrinating children with religion is so abusive, it shuts down their critical thinking abilities so they grow up to make fools of themselves in front of critically minded people.
If it makes you feel better I will play along, OOH, I am so frightened of make believe land !!!
Ignoring your obvious foolishness about "abuse" and "critically minded people" ::)
I don't care whether you "play along" or not...it is your eternal hellfire, not mine.
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Ignoring your obvious foolishness about "abuse" and "critically minded people" ::)
I don't care whether you "play along" or not...it is your eternal hellfire, not mine.
I am sure if GOD is just, moral and omnibenevolent as we are told, he has no need for a HELL. Either GOD is GOOD, therefore there can't be a hell, or GOD is the DEVIL himself, then HELL is a possibility, and it also explains why EVIL exists in this dimension. Either way, religious people are full of shit and massive hypocrites.
My only hope is that HELL has no GOD Botherers, because God Botherers have made life on Earth a living Hell. And who in there right mind would worship a GOD that punished them for the way that very GOD created them, as sinners. God Botherers seem like the frightened victims of organised criminals fervently telling everyone how generous and kind the Mafia Bosses that extort them are. The GOD of the bible is a genocidal maniac, and anyone who actually WANTS a GOD like that in their lives, deserves the torment that comes from a lifetime of believing in a Tall tale.
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I am sure if GOD is just, moral and omnibenevolent as we are told, he has no need for a HELL. Either GOD is GOOD, therefore there can't be a hell, or GOD is the DEVIL himself,
Such a naive view of things.
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Such a naive view of things.
LOL @ people who believe in HELL calling other people naive.
Feel free to elaborate to everyone your intricate understanding of fictional places.
Why do I always feel as if I am dealing with a child when I discuss religion and God with a Getbigger. It's quaint when a child makes such claims, but always sad when a grown man is still repeating such overt nonsense.
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LOL @ people who believe in HELL calling other people naive.
Feel free to elaborate to everyone your intricate understanding of fictional places.
Why do I always feel as if I am dealing with a child when I discuss religion and God with a Getbigger. It's quaint when a child makes such claims, but always sad when a grown man is still repeating such overt nonsense.
You seem to believe...
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These are some of the very words that will haunt you 5,000 years from now...when your eternal sentence is still "new" to you. Flame on, boy, flame on.
This
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;D
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Well, if increasing the population is the issue then they should ban priests as well then. Celibate monks can't help increase the population either.
E-Kul, I like the way you think.
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I feel good knowing that people like Wiggs are becoming less in number everyday. More and more states are legalizing gay marriage and there's nothing he can do about it :D
EDIT: looks like he's getting angry too lololol
Did you miss the part where Wiggs said that the majority on the planet agreed with him? (Not the majority in the USA.)
Not quite sure why he feels that believing the same thing as the majority of the non-US global population (including the 1.25 billion that can't read) should be at all compelling, though.
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Don't you think that's a bit of a stretch? How about a little perspective.
no its not a stretch at all. you're wrong.
basically what he's saying is that "NO GAY PERSON COULD EVER HURT ME", insinuating that they are these helpless little effeminate creatures that he is so superior to but tolerates. that comment is simply a back handed insult to homosexuals.
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no its not a stretch at all. you're wrong.
basically what he's saying is that "NO GAY PERSON COULD EVER HURT ME", insinuating that they are these helpless little effeminate creatures that he is so superior to but tolerates. that comment is simply a back handed insult to homosexuals.
Which equates to saying it's wrong or, worse, sinful?
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Which equates to saying it's wrong or, worse, sinful?
saying that they're basically weaker and a lesser form of a human being than himself? yes I would say its on par with calling someone a sinner. go say either one of those things to a gay person. find out for yourself.
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saying that they're basically weaker and a lesser form of a human being than himself? yes I would say its on par with calling someone a sinner. go say either one of those things to a gay person. find out for yourself.
Gotcha.
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saying that they're basically weaker and a lesser form of a human being than himself? yes I would say its on par with calling someone a sinner. go say either one of those things to a gay person. find out for yourself.
we are all sinners....but the vast majority are NOT gay. I might like to eat herring with buckwheat (a Russian cuisine NO NO) but I dont hold a parade about it nor try to explain away this perversion as another alternate "normality"
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What I take away from this thread is that people like Wiggs should not be able to have an opinion and express it because some people get upset. Not just upset but really really upset.
looool. you guys need to visit 99% of the world. You guys should relax and enjoy your position of being able to voice support for homosexuals and homosexual tolerance. Instead what I see here is everyone trying to shove "gaydom" down Wiggs throat. Wiggs clearly does not like gay people for reasons unknown. Why does every here get so riled up?
Also its Russia so who gives a fuck? Russia is a crazy place.
I'd say the butthurt goes both ways... Which is often the case.
This is the way I see it.
1. It's a choice and not a genetic predisposition.
2. I don't understand the hate toward gays.
3. This thing in Russia started when some gay protests turned obscene in public with nudity and other nonsense. That's when he cracked down and said you will not do this in Red Square disgracing our country. Then all hell broke loose in the US with anti Putin stories all over the liberal press.
No Homo
I can't imagine anyone "choosing" to be gay.
"Choosing" to be ridiculed, mocked, persecuted... Seems odd to me.
How many black men in the late 18 and early 1900s would have chosen to be black and persecuted... Perhaps lynched in the Southern areas of the US (Lynching was not as prevalent as they would have you believe, but that's another topic)
I'm sure there were times when my parents would have chosen one to be the opposite race so as not to deal with discrimination.
I don't even understand the Russian Law to be honest... It's a propaganda law right? No literature and shit... I don't think he's actually saying it's illegal to "be gay".
Seems that Putin is just saying it's illegal to distribute pro-gay literature.
Not saying it's right, but it's not quite the same thing.
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I'd say the butthurt goes both ways... Which is often the case.
I can't imagine anyone "choosing" to be gay.
"Choosing" to be ridiculed, mocked, persecuted... Seems odd to me.
How many black men in the late 18 and early 1900s would have chosen to be black and persecuted... Perhaps lynched in the Southern areas of the US (Lynching was not as prevalent as they would have you believe, but that's another topic)
I'm sure there were times when my parents would have chosen one to be the opposite race so as not to deal with discrimination.
I don't even understand the Russian Law to be honest... It's a propaganda law right? No literature and shit... I don't think he's actually saying it's illegal to "be gay".
Seems that Putin is just saying it's illegal to distribute pro-gay literature.
Not saying it's right, but it's not quite the same thing.
No one can choose the color of their skin and it's an insult to compare that to one's sexual preference but one played by liberal sociologists in a disgusting attempt to align themselves with so-called minorities when it comes to what is blatant preferential treatment. I have personally known many men that chose homosexuality and the majority reason being sex was easily come by with zero "romance" or monetary outlay. Their words, not mine. Whether or not you choose to believe my words is entirely up to you. I expect you to squeal foul craven or the like.
Your experience is likely different but I will not insult you with a similar piece of propaganda like the one you've chosen, i.e., being born black and being born homosexual. I could you know. I could easily proffer one that is as believable but just as stupid and even more sickening. I prefer to think people make choices via their personal preferences. People are responsible for themselves.
As I said, my experiences are based upon speaking with homosexuals that I have known over the years and asking them "why". A very few have claimed to have been born homosexual and to be honest they were all very effeminate men. The kind homosexuals still refer to as "nellies". They claimed to have known they were homosexual since a very young age, e.g., three.
BS.
Do as you wish but expect to be called for what you stated and with good reason.
Be well.