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:o
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Little hard to tell, but he's a big kid, 6'-6", #280-290ish. Lots of offers from college scouts.
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fake
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the bar is bent, looks like most of the lates are real.
those reps will do fuck all for growht, but the kid is strong like an ox.
he looks very tall, very wide grip.
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eric spoto beter watchout
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the bar is bent, looks like most of the lates are real.
those reps will do fuck all for growht, but the kid is strong like an ox.
he looks very tall, very wide grip.
Watched his scout films and all he does is run people over. Every top college in the country is recruiting him and he's a beast.
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This one is legit coming from H.S. wt room, this kid is country strong, natural strength. Everybody has heard stories of guy who never touched a barbell, never set foot in a gym and could pick up a side of a bldg. That's him.
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Seems legit, big dude, all the way big dude.
8)
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the bar is bent, looks like most of the lates are real.
those reps will do fuck all for growht, but the kid is strong like an ox.
he looks very tall, very wide grip.
yes sir I agree.. However In true getbig fashion I knock all those doing things I cannot do lol
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natural
nono, lets not fly into fantasy land here,lol
yes sir I agree.. However In true getbig fashion I knock all those doing things I cannot do lol
;D
yeah i first wanted to call bs and cj fletcher plates, but then the bar looked similiar to like when i do "dumbell" benchpressing by using the olympic bar with 4plates a side(one in each hand)
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when I opened this thread and saw it was a white guy I.....well um...............have any of you seen the movie "Scanners"?
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nono, lets not fly into fantasy land here,lol
;D
yeah i first wanted to call bs and cj fletcher plates, but then the bar looked similiar to like when i do "dumbell" benchpressing by using the olympic bar with 4plates a side(one in each hand)
yeah I can see you doing that lol
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when I opened this thread and saw it was a white guy I.....well um...............have any of you seen the movie "Scanners"?
lol. Way to use the mind = blown meme without actually saying it.
Witty.
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kid needs to bring up his lats
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
yeah but kids still strong and no powerlifter, he just wnats be strong to bodycheck the opponents in footbal straight off the field.
that weight would dislocate 99% of getbogs posetrs arms or whole upper bodys on the negative part of the rep alone,lol.
not mine(see previous post)ofc 8)
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
lol. oh brother. Like anyone gives a shit. He did it whether you like it or not. There's always one you guys that comes along in these threads playing the official.
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lol. oh brother. Like anyone gives a shit. He did it whether you like it or not. There's always one you guys that comes along in these threads playing the official.
Not doubting the kid is strong, but anyone who knows benching knows that a spotters hands on the bar, regardless of how little you think he is helping completely and totally invalidates any legitimate lift. Often the spotter is helping a lot more than it appears. I would have been much more impressed by a single rep with 500 with no spotters hands on the bar. I can see why you would think I'm being picky, but being a competitive raw bench presser, it disappoints me when I see stuff like this. I feel like screaming for him to tell his damn friend not to touch the bar :).
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Not doubting the kid is strong, but anyone who knows benching knows that a spotters hands on the bar, regardless of how little you think he is helping completely and totally invalidates any legitimate lift. Often the spotter is helping a lot more than it appears. I would have been much more impressed by a single rep with 500 with no spotters hands on the bar. I can see why you would think I'm being picky, but being a competitive raw bench presser, it disappoints me when I see stuff like this. I feel like screaming for him to tell his damn friend not to touch the bar :).
excuse me mr idiot sticks... this was not a sanctioned event. Just young fellas having a go at er.... please pul;l the stick from your asshole and beat yourself to death ;D
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excuse me mr idiot sticks... this was not a sanctioned event. Just young fellas having a go at er.... please pul;l the stick from your asshole and beat yourself to death ;D
Actually, I have benched competitively over 600lbs raw. What do you know about benching sweetness? :)
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I've entered your mother's stinking vagine raw
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This one is legit coming from H.S. wt room, this kid is country strong, natural strength. Everybody has heard stories of guy who never touched a barbell, never set foot in a gym and could pick up a side of a bldg. That's him.
this.
big powerful hog farmer
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Jeebus, kid is a beast.
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
Yeah, but I ain't doing that and there may be 3 getbiggers who can do that kind of weight.
That's a strong SOB... Beast Mode = engaged.
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Actually, I have benched competitively over 600lbs raw. What do you know about benching sweetness? :)
i have benched 200lbs competitively(this means i released a dangeorous intense stare throughout the gym) 8)
brutla strenght
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Yeah, but I ain't doing that and there may be 3 getbiggers who can do that kind of weight.
That's a strong SOB... Beast Mode = engaged.
im sure 3 getbiggers could lift that weight in a collective effort ;D
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im sure 3 getbiggers could lift that weight in a collective effort ;D
;D
Truth!
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Actually, I have benched competitively over 600lbs raw. What do you know about benching sweetness? :)
Im, a true gettbigger so I use benches for sitting
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
It's not powerlifting and it's not bodybuilding. The spot was correct. This kid is a legit beast.
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all powerlifters should be rounded up and shipped to a nice island in the carribbean
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all powerlifters should be rounded up and shipped to a nice island in the carribbean
lol
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It's not powerlifting and it's not bodybuilding. The spot was correct. This kid is a legit beast.
thank you so many haters here
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Whites are strong, but not fast
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Whites are strong, but not fast
He's a 290lb LB. How fast should he be?
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arms look insanely long for his body in that video. crazy strong.
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this.
big powerful hog farmer
Hog farmers have been known for their strength. I remember Cleve Dean that big ass armwrestler with the gigantic hands. I believe he was a hog farmer.
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Spotter was touching the bar the whole time. Lift doesn't mean shit technically if the spotter touches the bar at all. All competitive benchers know this to be the truth.
Can somebody please punch this guy directly in the face?
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Actually, I have benched competitively over 600lbs raw. What do you know about benching sweetness? :)
Who are you? If you don't post proof of who you are I will assume this is utter bullshit...
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Can somebody please punch this guy directly in the face?
It is the 100% truth like it or not. Do you consider it a legit max with the spotter helping?
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Hog farmers have been known for their strength. I remember Cleve Dean that big ass armwrestler with the gigantic hands. I believe he was a hog farmer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUuxwK5euhM
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It is the 100% truth like it or not. Do you consider it a legit max with the spotter helping?
Im considering sending a legit roundhouse kick your way, destination: your jaw.
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It is the 100% truth like it or not. Do you consider it a legit max with the spotter helping?
so many fags in this thread crying because they were out liHS kid fted by a
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Im considering sending a legit roundhouse kick your way, destination: your jaw.
:). Well I will be competing at the LA Fit Expo this weekend in the bench press. Feel free to come over and say hi. I would love to meet fellow getbiggers. I've only met Ron and Alex so far.
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:). Well I will be competing at the LA Fit Expo this weekend in the bench press. Feel free to come over and say hi. I would love to meet fellow getbiggers. I've only met Ron and Alex so far.
Wish I could make it bro :(
Good luck on your lift.
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Strong as hell. Even more impressive that he is tall and has a wingspan. When the NFL dream fails strongman should be up his alley.
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:). Well I will be competing at the LA Fit Expo this weekend in the bench press. Feel free to come over and say hi. I would love to meet fellow getbiggers. I've only met Ron and Alex so far.
I will send someone for you
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:). Well I will be competing at the LA Fit Expo this weekend in the bench press. Feel free to come over and say hi. I would love to meet fellow getbiggers. I've only met Ron and Alex so far.
What is your name? There are not many 600+ raw benchers out there. I'm curious to know who you are.
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I will send someone for you
Sure, if someone wants to say hi, just PM me and I'll send you my name.
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Im considering sending a legit roundhouse kick your way, destination: your jaw.
if it's the liquid c im thinking of, the dude is strong and jacked as fuck.
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when I opened this thread and saw it was a white guy I.....well um...............have any of you seen the movie "Scanners"?
LOL
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a 6'6 natural white kid strong as a prime juiced to the gill midget ass Ronnie coleman or kevin levrone lol. fuck this is fucking great.
blacks are better lol ::)
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OTH from here benched 500..
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OTH from here benched 500..
At 17?
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Just a few offers and combine testing backs up his strength. Who knows if he is drug free and there are plenty of pics showing him with cystic acne but kids get that.
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Just a few offers and combine testing backs up his strength. Who knows if he is drug free and there are plenty of pics showing him with cystic acne but kids get that.
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It's not powerlifting and it's not bodybuilding. The spot was correct. This kid is a legit beast.
THE DUDE IS A FUCKEN MONSTER but liquid does have a point, he is not doing 5 plates clean, very very close though.
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Big kid dwarfs all getbiggers. Instant hate
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Beast, looks like J.J. Watt! Huge legs!
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kid will break his fingers trying to tackle people with an open hand always come at people with the double fists
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He will play at Alabama.
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id run through this little bastard
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Actually, I have benched competitively over 600lbs raw. What do you know about benching sweetness? :)
No you haven't - you weren't 1/3 the man this kid is when you were in HS and you are no where near able to match his lift now. You are an envious lil bitch and your replies on this thread should embarrass you
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Between all the body contortions, clown suits and 4'' ROM we're normally accustomed to, this kid definitely deserves some props.
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wow......beast........wow
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massive oak tree legs.
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No you haven't - you weren't 1/3 the man this kid is when you were in HS and you are no where near able to match his lift now. You are an envious lil bitch and your replies on this thread should embarrass you
Actually someone's already vouched for him and he knows what he's talking about. Now go sit in the corner noob bitch and shut the fuck up, faggotorilla
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Hog farmers have been known for their strength. I remember Cleve Dean that big ass armwrestler with the gigantic hands. I believe he was a hog farmer.
Lifting sows>Lifting weights
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I have personally seen William Elsby an English 18 year old bench 240 kg, that's what 530lbs?
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/206270_5303537574_8155_n.jpg)
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We all know fellas like this. I was friends with a kid in highschool who never lifted weights but I swear his skeleton was made out of steel. Strong as a fucking OX. At those arcade games where you had to arm wrestle, most people couldn't budge the highest setting but he'd beat it every time. We did a punch test that measured your power like in Rocky 4 and he nearly double everyone else. Too bad he was a lazy fuck and stoner. A couple years in the gym and he would have been a first round NFL pick.
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Strong as hell. Even more impressive that he is tall and has a wingspan. When the NFL dream fails strongman should be up his alley.
Once he realizes the odds of a white non QB in the NFL to succeed is a hundred billion to one he just might.
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There will be an awesome white quarterback and this could be him, imagine the dollar baby!
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Once he realizes the odds of a white non QB in the NFL to succeed is a hundred billion to one he just might.
I don't think he wants to the QB
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I don't think he wants to the QB
That's why I said a white NON QB.
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Very impressive, but who picked out the spotter on the left? I wouldn't want some short, doughy ginger responsible for the right side of an over 500 pound bar.
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I still question if that was legit. I've seen many guys do 4 plates and the bar is all bouncy, 5 plates and the bar only slightly bends especially when he bounces it off his chest.
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I still question if that was legit. I've seen many guys do 4 plates and the bar is all bouncy, 5 plates and the bar only slightly bends especially when he bounces it off his chest.
His grip looks a little narrow to me.
I don't know much about benching though, never been any good at it.
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guys this is not some 5'9 guy...the kid is 6'6 kid benching 500 pounds for reps. That's outer space.
a year of training and he could easily be one of the strongest guys in the world.
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Once he realizes the odds of a white non QB in the NFL to succeed is a hundred billion to one he just might.
Plenty of white O linemen and at minimum he will get a full college ride.
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Watched his scout films and all he does is run people over. Every top college in the country is recruiting him and he's a beast.
YOu obviously didn't watch the video. He is getting beat on 1 on 1 pass rush drills.
Every college is not after him.
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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/146538/braden-smith
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He will play at Alabama.
Correction- Bama did offer him but did not pursue him as a top priority.
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I still question if that was legit. I've seen many guys do 4 plates and the bar is all bouncy, 5 plates and the bar only slightly bends especially when he bounces it off his chest.
It's a HS weight room in Kansas, don't think the Kansas school district budget is gonna special order fake plates just to hoodwink all of Get Big! lol
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guys this is not some 5'9 guy...the kid is 6'6 kid benching 500 pounds for reps. That's outer space.
a year of training and he could easily be one of the strongest guys in the world.
Exactly. Its not even twice his natural weight.
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Natural, lol , seriously?
Strong kid. There are vids of legit 500 benches from young guys on youtube who look like shit, just because you have a great strength response to aas doesn't mean you'll look like a bodybuilder... Dr layne nerdstrom for eg squats 600 for reps with 26" thighs.
Despite what retards like danta tweedle preach its possible to be strong as fuck and still look like a big boned farm boy or dough lump
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Good shit
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kid could very well be natural.
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Takes the full line of MuscleTech products at 2x the recommended dose
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YOu obviously didn't watch the video. He is getting beat on 1 on 1 pass rush drills.
Every college is not after him.
I was watching his HS scout films. Of course he will need coaching.
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No you haven't - you weren't 1/3 the man this kid is when you were in HS and you are no where near able to match his lift now. You are an envious lil bitch and your replies on this thread should embarrass you
actually yes he has ;)
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I still question if that was legit. I've seen many guys do 4 plates and the bar is all bouncy, 5 plates and the bar only slightly bends especially when he bounces it off his chest.
it depends on the bar, this one is indeed legit.
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No you haven't - you weren't 1/3 the man this kid is when you were in HS and you are no where near able to match his lift now. You are an envious lil bitch and your replies on this thread should embarrass you
You're partially right. My best bench was about 350 for a single rep my senior year of HS. Never touched juiced and even got my girl pregnant so that kind of made things rough my senior year, but that's another story lol. :o So no, in HS I was not as strong as this kid. However I am more than able to match his lifting in my current state. You should not speak of things you do not know and if you actually read my post and understood it, you would see that I never said the kid wasn't very strong. I simply stated that he should smack his friend for having his hands on the bar like that as it spoils his lift. Similar to if you go only halfway down and don't come close to touching your chest. A couple of pet peeves of mine. 8)
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it depends on the bar, this one is indeed legit.
Have to agree on that. Unlike the Kai video, the weights did not appear to be fake. Plus when it comes to fake plates, I have never seen fake plates made in the style he was using so I am sure it was a legit 515.
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You're partially right. My best bench was about 350 for a single rep my senior year of HS. Never touched juiced and even got my girl pregnant so that kind of made things rough my senior year, but that's another story lol. :o So no, in HS I was not as strong as this kid. However I am more than able to match his lifting in my current state. You should not speak of things you do not know and if you actually read my post and understood it, you would see that I never said the kid wasn't very strong. I simply stated that he should smack his friend for having his hands on the bar like that as it spoils his lift. Similar to if you go only halfway down and don't come close to touching your chest. A couple of pet peeves of mine. 8)
people do not understand how much it takes away from a lift with hands on a bar, I can add a full plate and have a guy hands on the bar and it will look like he is not helping at all.
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You're partially right. My best bench was about 350 for a single rep my senior year of HS. Never touched juiced and even got my girl pregnant so that kind of made things rough my senior year, but that's another story lol. :o So no, in HS I was not as strong as this kid. However I am more than able to match his lifting in my current state. You should not speak of things you do not know and if you actually read my post and understood it, you would see that I never said the kid wasn't very strong. I simply stated that he should smack his friend for having his hands on the bar like that as it spoils his lift. Similar to if you go only halfway down and don't come close to touching your chest. A couple of pet peeves of mine. 8)
In all fairness, I would bet his coach won't let his athletes spot any other way just for the sake of safety. I'm the same way in a team setting. Just because his hands are hovering close to the bar to even touching the bar doesn't mean those weren't legit lifts. You have to remember, these are still kids, some more experienced lifters than others. That kid spotting did just fine.
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Very trusting of him to have Ricky Hatton spotting him on the left, I would nt let that coke filled car wreck anywhere near me especially if I got 500 big ones hovering over my head
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In all fairness, I would bet his coach won't let his athletes spot any other way just for the sake of safety. I'm the same way in a team setting. Just because his hands are hovering close to the bar to even touching the bar doesn't mean those weren't legit lifts. You have to remember, these are still kids, some more experienced lifters than others. That kid spotting did just fine.
what are you on about, that weight would not go up without that kids hands for 3 reps, if you think it would have then you should be ashamed of calling yourself a training cause you certainly do not know what you are talking about.
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what are you on about, that weight would not go up without that kids hands for 3 reps, if you think it would have then you should be ashamed of calling yourself a training cause you certainly do not know what you are talking about.
Don't even go there, son. This ain't fucking Gold's or LA Fitness. How in the hell do you know that wouldn't have went up? Do you even pay attention as to what comes out of HS Football programs around the country? I do, it's part of my job. Do you think this is the only kid like this? We have several players that bench in the low 400's that weigh around 240, they also know if their hands arn't close or under the bar, I find someone who will. Let me also say, this wasn't a 1RM, this was for 3. That kids hands damn well better under that bar. WTF is the matter with you??
Get out from training 1 to 1's get on as a strength coach for a HS, get 60 players in a weight room then report back.
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It's a HS weight room in Kansas, don't think the Kansas school district budget is gonna special order fake plates just to hoodwink all of Get Big! lol
They would do it to get their kids into college programs and up their numbers a bit
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Don't even go there, son. This ain't fucking Gold's or LA Fitness. How in the hell do you know that wouldn't have went up? Do you even pay attention as to what comes out of HS Football programs around the country? I do, it's part of my job. Do you think this is the only kid like this? We have several players that bench in the low 400's that weigh around 240, they also know if their hands arn't close or under the bar, I find someone who will. Let me also say, this wasn't a 1RM, this was for 3. That kids hands damn well better under that bar. WTF is the matter with you??
Get out from training 1 to 1's get on as a strength coach for a HS, get 60 players in a weight room then report back.
lmao and you are a trainer, :-[
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They would do it to get their kids into college programs and up their numbers a bit
Big numbers don't help much if at all.
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lmao and you are a trainer, :-[
You're not even close to being ready for this debate. Trust me.
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what are you on about, that weight would not go up without that kids hands for 3 reps, if you think it would have then you should be ashamed of calling yourself a training cause you certainly do not know what you are talking about.
the spotter probably took a couple of pound from the lift, if that, he basically steadied the bar.
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You're not even close to being ready for this debate. Trust me.
Your qualified why cause you train people, I was a personal trainer for years and years and stopped because I was ashamed, I couldn't look at myself charging people 50 dollars for switching the pin on the weight machines for 45 minutes.
oh no, you just made yourself look like an idiot, yes I get your point, he is training and being spotted properly and yes I get your point that you would not have done it differently and yes I get it that this is not powerlifting but did he do 515 for 3 reps?, no he did not.
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the spotter probably took a couple of pound from the lift, if that, he basically steadied the bar.
still helps though and nobody is saying he is not strong as fuck and no one is saying he did not lift a lot here but it was pointed out he did not do 515 for 3 reps, simple as that, no other argument here as far as I am concerned yet The Coach is trying to be a drama queen and basically suggest that the guys hands on the bar did not make a difference, an embarrassing suggesting coming from a trainer.
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You're not even close to being ready for this debate. Trust me.
I wouldn't go that far. Maybe it's a difference in how we look at things. I know OTH is or was a competitive powerlifting bench presser as myself. In the powerlifting world, hands on the bar like that gym or otherwise just invalidate the lift no matter how much you try to justify it. Same thing a powerlifter would do if he saw someone squatting who was not going deep enough, or someone deadlifting who was hitching. Yes I am aware the kid is not a powerlifter and is just trying to show off his strength but to a powerlifter, it just isn't right. I doubt you will find a competitive lifter that would disagree. I would never post a video of myself saying how strong I am with someone's hands on the bar the whole time. I would not be taken seriously by anyone who knows and competes. Sure a bunch of gym rats might think it's impressive, but that is it. IMO, having the hands on the bar the whole time does little to enhance safety, if anything it just gets you mentally dependent on someone having their hands on the bar. It may appear that they are not helping much, but 99% of the time they are helping a lot more than they think. I have been stuck on lifts before where my spotter just barely touched the bar to let me finish the lift. It wasn't much pressure at all, but it made all the difference.
Again, it is probably how you look at things. However and please, any other competitive bench pressers correct me if they think I am wrong. As Dennis Leary used to say, it's just my opinion, I could be wrong. 8)
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I wouldn't go that far. Maybe it's a difference in how we look at things. I know OTH is or was a competitive powerlifting bench presser as myself. In the powerlifting world, hands on the bar like that gym or otherwise just invalidate the lift no matter how much you try to justify it. Same thing a powerlifter would do if he saw someone squatting who was not going deep enough, or someone deadlifting who was hitching. Yes I am aware the kid is not a powerlifter and is just trying to show off his strength but to a powerlifter, it just isn't right. I doubt you will find a competitive lifter that would disagree. I would never post a video of myself saying how strong I am with someone's hands on the bar the whole time. I would not be taken seriously by anyone who knows and competes. Sure a bunch of gym rats might think it's impressive, but that is it. IMO, having the hands on the bar the whole time does little to enhance safety, if anything it just gets you mentally dependent on someone having their hands on the bar. It may appear that they are not helping much, but 99% of the time they are helping a lot more than they think. I have been stuck on lifts before where my spotter just barely touched the bar to let me finish the lift. It wasn't much pressure at all, but it made all the difference.
Again, it is probably how you look at things. However and please, any other competitive bench pressers correct me if they think I am wrong. As Dennis Leary used to say, it's just my opinion, I could be wrong. 8)
ask 1000 coaches and trainers if touching the bar makes a difference and 999 out 1000 would say of course it does and coach is the only ''mr. know it all' who say it does not, very basic info like this we learn the first month of training, yet this guy coaches teams and is a big shot self proclaimed ''know way more then all of us'' yet he still has not got over something we learned the first month of training, how bizarre. ???
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also training with hands on the bar is the most dangerous thing in the world, I have seen people fuck themselves up this way before, they are in the gym training with say 275 lb assisted reps through out the movement then come to the gym one day alone without a partner and get buried under the same weight cause they think they can do it
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It's a gym lift guys, let's just enjoy it for what it is :).
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oh ya one more thing here bro, Coach has been called a BSer in the past for claiming a 500+ bench while being 180 or something, I may be off here but it was a world class claim and everyone did not believe this claim but now I do believe this claim to be true 100% because
it is evident now he did this lift while someone was touching the bar so now it is believable, although he thinks the lift is legit but now it makes sense.
You know he was benching 500lb while his spotter was doing up right rows.
funny coach you issued an arrogant challenge claiming I am not ready and called me your son, well where the hell you at son.?
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It's a gym lift guys, let's just enjoy it for what it is :).
and its one crazy ass lift, very very impressive.
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Your qualified why cause you train people, I was a personal trainer for years and years and stopped because I was ashamed, I couldn't look at myself charging people 50 dollars for switching the pin on the weight machines for 45 minutes.
oh no, you just made yourself look like an idiot, yes I get your point, he is training and being spotted properly and yes I get your point that you would not have done it differently and yes I get it that this is not powerlifting but did he do 515 for 3 reps?, no he did not.
I'm qualified because about 16 years ago I had made the decision that I wanted to go beyond just being a "personal trainer" and perused being a strength coach for athletes and teams because the education was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond that of just a personal trainer. That was around the time that strength and conditioning was really evolving as a science. I read and still read almost everything I can and set aside about an hour a day to read, watch DVD's, listen to podcasts, etc. Since then I spend one day per week at USC during the off season (since 2003) with their strength coaches and assisting in a few of the USC strength clinics since the Pete Carroll days up until Kiffen got fired. Chris Carlise was Pete Carrolls S&C coach from the time Carroll took over in 2001 and have learned a great deal from him and we still communicate on a fairly regular basis. As you know, they're going to the Superbowl 8)
I also have spent time with Mike Boyle, Tommy Moffitt (LSU), Sal Alosi (formerly NY Jets now UCLA) and Robert DosRemedios (Coach Dos, College of the Canyons) and Aaron Ausmus.
I personally have 4 CIF (Our state championship) rings, two for wrestling, two for football the most recent being last month for football. and 5 league championships (wrestling, football, baseball). This doesn't include the NFL combine preps, HS combines, college combine and a couple of pro day preps, UFC fighters and currently training two fighters for their belts, one for KSW one for Bellator.
My personal gym consists of 90% athletes. Just because your a trainer in a gym doesn't mean you can effectively train an athlete but the strength coach can train just about everyone.
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I'm qualified because about 16 years ago I had made the decision that I wanted to go beyond just being a "personal trainer" and perused being a strength coach for athletes and teams because the education was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond that of just a personal trainer. That was around the time that strength and conditioning was really evolving as a science. I read and still read almost everything I can and set aside about an hour a day to read, watch DVD's, listen to podcasts, etc. Since then I spend one day per week at USC during the off season (since 2003) with their strength coaches and assisting in a few of the USC strength clinics since the Pete Carroll days up until Kiffen got fired. Chris Carlise was Pete Carrolls S&C coach from the time Carroll took over in 2001 and have learned a great deal from him and we still communicate on a fairly regular basis. As you know, they're going to the Superbowl 8)
I also have spent time with Mike Boyle, Tommy Moffitt (LSU), Sal Alosi (formerly NY Jets now UCLA) and Robert DosRemedios (Coach Dos, College of the Canyons) and Aaron Ausmus.
I personally have 4 CIF (Our state championship) rings, two for wrestling, two for football the most recent being last month for football. and 5 league championships (wrestling, football, baseball). This doesn't include the NFL combine preps, HS combines, college combine and a couple of pro day preps, UFC fighters and currently training two fighters for their belts, one for KSW one for Bellator.
My personal gym consists of 90% athletes. Just because your a trainer in a gym doesn't mean you can effectively train an athlete but the strength coach can train just about everyone.
so 16 years of strength coaching and years and years of previous personal training and you still do not know that someone touching the bar makes the lift easier. ??? ???
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BTW, I don't think I know everything, that's a mistake to think such a thing. I do know that there other WELL qualified strength coaches that come on here, so when I say something I'm usually aware of who might be reading this board.
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Coach come on...this kid is making people feel bad about themselves. Its not worth the effort. The critique of his lift...the spotting effort....the whole thing is retarded. The kid is strong as hell and in any good program is only going to get stronger. People are jealous that you do what you love...I'd kill to do what you do, and make an actual living doing it.
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so 16 years of strength coaching and years and years of previous personal training and you still do not know that someone touching the bar makes the lift easier. ??? ???
Do they have some magical powers in their fingers?
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That said...his shoulders are gonna last about a month doing that shit.
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BTW, I don't think I know everything, that's a mistake to think such a thing. I do know that there other WELL qualified strength coaches that come on here, so when I say something I'm usually aware of who might be reading this board.
well you certainly do not know everything if you do not know that someone touches the bar makes the lift easier ;)
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Coach come on...this kid is making people feel bad about themselves. Its not worth the effort. The critique of his lift...the spotting effort....the whole thing is retarded. The kid is strong as hell and in any good program is only going to get stronger. People are jealous that you do what you love...I'd kill to do what you do, and make an actual living doing it.
nobody is jealous about anything, the lift proved it was one of the strongest lifts I have ever seen from a high school student.
i own my own business and do not need to work a day in my life bro and I am young and can also bench 500, but that is not the point here, you are jumping the gun. The point is hand on the bar = the lifts was less then claimed, big deal as even taking a margin off that lifts still makes it incredible but do jump down someone throat like coach did when they make this observation and coach is wrong the hands did make a difference in the lift any trainer on the planet knows this.
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nobody is jealous about anything, the lift proved it was one of the strongest lifts I have ever seen from a high school student.
i own my own business and do not need to work a day in my life bro and I am young and can also bench 500, but that is not the point here, you are jumping the gun. The point is hand on the bar = the lifts was less then claimed, big deal as even taking a margin off that lifts still makes it incredible but do jump down someone throat like coach did when they make this observation and coach is wrong the hands did make a difference in the lift any trainer on the planet knows this.
Exactly this is a HS kid and is known for his raw power by all the schools recruiting him. That strength designation on the recruiting page shows he has repeated big lifts at combines. Even when you watch the pro scout combines it's rare to see guys benching or squatting with perfect form.
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YOu obviously didn't watch the video. He is getting beat on 1 on 1 pass rush drills.
Every college is not after him.
He has an nfl UPPER BODY.
His legs, however, look like they are from a much smaller man. He looks like JJ Watt from the waist up. But his arms are literally almost as big as his legs. Won't have the speed or height for NFL, but will kick a little ass and get free college.
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YOu obviously didn't watch the video. He is getting beat on 1 on 1 pass rush drills.
Every college is not after him.
he only got beat because the black guy put his hands in our boys face playin dirty with no pads
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kid could very well be natural.
hahah bullshit man
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He has an nfl UPPER BODY.
His legs, however, look like they are from a much smaller man. He looks like JJ Watt from the waist up. But his arms are literally almost as big as his legs. Won't have the speed or height for NFL, but will kick a little ass and get free college.
he will get busted for roids this kid sucks
i did 370 on creatine for a bouncy ass arched back rep. his weight is unreal. he doesnt even have fat tits like i had, so hes not even trying to gain obviously
i can see a guy like me trying to gain all i could overeating getting fat tits putting up a terrible 370 boucy rep.
this kid isnt even trying, not even trying to cheat the weight. the true naturals try to bounce or inch up every last pound they can and over eat to bulk strength and get fat
he isnt lean becuause of his genetics its the roids
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he will get busted for roids this kid sucks
i did 370 on creatine for a bouncy ass arched back rep. his weight is unreal. he doesnt even have fat tits like i had, so hes not even trying to gain obviously
i can see a guy like me trying to gain all i could overeating getting fat tits putting up a terrible 370 boucy rep.
this kid isnt even trying, not even trying to cheat the weight. the true naturals try to bounce or inch up every last pound they can and over eat to bulk strength and get fat
he isnt lean becuause of his genetics its the roids
wow bro you are doing 370, not bad bro ;)
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wow bro you are doing 370, not bad bro ;)
no hell no
that was when i was jacked up on creatine and eating meat years ago
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no hell no
that was when i was jacked up on creatine and eating meat years ago
oh well you can do it gain if you trained, I know a vegetarian who does 4 plates on the bench :)
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Exactly this is a HS kid and is know for his raw power by all the schools recruiting him. That strength designation on the recruiting page shows he has repeated big lifts at combines. Even when you watch the pro scout combines it's rare to see guys benching or squatting with perfect form.
They don't do 1RM's at scouting combines. College and Pro it's a 225lb rep test and HS is 185lbs. HS Nike combines, they don't do the 185lb bench rather they do a kneeling med-ball chest pass and they certainly don't squat.
There's no doubt the kid is on gear. But scouts are also not looking for who can bench 500lbs. As impressive as it is, they could careless.
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He has an nfl UPPER BODY.
His legs, however, look like they are from a much smaller man. He looks like JJ Watt from the waist up. But his arms are literally almost as big as his legs. Won't have the speed or height for NFL, but will kick a little ass and get free college.
Probably hump some nice slightly-overweight college poon
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You're not even close to being ready for this debate. Trust me.
OH shit!!! :o
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so 16 years of strength coaching and years and years of previous personal training and you still do not know that someone touching the bar makes the lift easier. ??? ???
How much help did those fingers account for? 10 lbs? 15 lbs? 25 lbs?
Hell if that kid has warmed up correctly. and had proper set-up + lift off he could have nailed all 3 on his own.
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They don't do 1RM's at scouting combines. College and Pro it's a 225lb rep test and HS is 185lbs. HS Nike combines, they don't do the 185lb bench rather they do a kneeling med-ball chest pass and they certainly don't squat.
There's no doubt the kid is on gear. But scouts are also not looking for who can bench 500lbs. As impressive as it is, they could careless.
I know the tests but why are they rating him on strength under the Traits? I know things have changed a lot but when I was recruited schools wanted the single totals, 40 time, stats and of course film highlights.
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How much help did those fingers account for? 10 lbs? 15 lbs? 25 lbs?
Hell if that kid has warmed up correctly. and had proper set-up + lift off he could have nailed all 3 on his own.
He's just pissed he can't do this as easy as some kid going through puberty. DON'T argue with him.
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Little hard to tell, but he's a big kid, 6'-6", #280-290ish. Lots of offers from college scouts.
If he's a legit 6'6", he needs to pack on more bodyweight. He needs to get over 300 pounds.
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people do not understand how much it takes away from a lift with hands on a bar, I can add a full plate and have a guy hands on the bar and it will look like he is not helping at all.
but on the way up he was very explosive and looked like no help at all in 2 reps.
this kid has epic power
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That said...his shoulders are gonna last about a month doing that shit.
he will eventualy pay for that,yes.
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They don't do 1RM's at scouting combines. College and Pro it's a 225lb rep test and HS is 185lbs. HS Nike combines, they don't do the 185lb bench rather they do a kneeling med-ball chest pass and they certainly don't squat.
There's no doubt the kid is on gear. But scouts are also not looking for who can bench 500lbs. As impressive as it is, they could careless.
yes exactly
All these guys just think about "official" bench stats which nobody cares about anyway because the kid can make money and have a nice life playing pro football. ::) he doesn't care that somebody hand is on the bar because it doesn't matter.
We do need *final solution* for the "power lifters" anybody have ideas???!
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I don't think the "powerlifters" were arguing that. Maybe we need to do something about the perma curlers...
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what was the argument?
looks like some narrow minded technical bullshit. this is diluting the gene pool.
perhaps you should be prevented from reproducing too...?
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I juat benched 315 for the 1st time evar.
and I had probably another 5-10 lbs left.
And to think I was feeling pretty good, and then just HS kid benching 500 all up in my grill. What a dick.
Kid is epic strong
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I juat benched 315 for the 1st time evar.
and I had probably another 5-10 lbs left.
And to think I was feeling pretty good, and then just HS kid benching 500 all up in my grill. What a dick.
Kid is epic strong
Congrats bro 8)
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People get drafted/recruited based on hype all the time.
That guy who had the video of him jumping out the pool, Jeff Demps who qualified for the 100m in the Olympics, Tim Tebow.... these guys all sucked, but they still got drafted based on the hype/intangibles around them.
Scouts are human too.... and in a sea of offensive lineman, there's only one with a video of him benching 515.
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I juat benched 315 for the 1st time evar.
and I had probably another 5-10 lbs left.
And to think I was feeling pretty good, and then just HS kid benching 500 all up in my grill. What a dick.
Kid is epic strong
Damn bro you're on steroids and you've only just benched 315? And you've been on this site for 8 years +?
Not picking on you or anything but thats fucking sad. Drop the roids and build a foundation through proper training and diet.
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Damn bro you're on steroids and you've only just benched 315?
Not picking on you or anything but thats sad. Drop the roids and build a foundation through proper training and diet.
Perform bicep curls. Weekly.
No, twice weekly for you.
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Perform bicep curls. Weekly.
No, twice weekly for you.
Told you... i tore my bicep.
But i've been training them and making gains.
I hammer the 65 dumbbells for an easy 10 reps now. I do lightweight higher reps with ez curl and machine preachers tho.
Making gains.
Still natty.
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Told you... i tore my bicep.
But i've been training them and making gains.
I hammer the 65 dumbbells for an easy 10 reps now. I do lightweight higher reps with ez curl and machine preachers tho.
Making gains.
Still natty.
Relax broseph I'm just joking. Be safe. 8)
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someone overrating the effects of hrt dose steroids.
calling 315bench weak when one is one first cycle.
all the while spotting monster 13inch guns.
haha, chiro, isnt it hillarious when those so badly detached from reality talk shit.
the mongoloid is planning his first cycle oh brother, long way to go.
besides who cares what one can bench or lift , jesus wept
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besides who cares what one can bench or lift ,
DJ181 that's who! >:(
Wolfcocks spoke without thinking, I'm sure he regrets making that post.
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Damn bro you're on steroids and you've only just benched 315? And you've been on this site for 8 years +?
Not picking on you or anything but thats fucking sad. Drop the roids and build a foundation through proper training and diet.
I knew there was bound to be one of you.
I have horrible bench mechanics and could never go more than 225x4 off the juice. I've only been juicing for a couple months, and I literally NEVER ORM. I pretty much always do sets of 245x8-10. So nice try broseph.
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I knew there was bound to be one of you.
I have horrible bench mechanics and could never go more than 225x4 off the juice. I've only been juicing for a couple months. So nice try.
No need to justify yourself. Honestly Bodybuilders should care fuck all about numbers. I still play with the big dumbells, 130s, almost 140s, but my best pumps are from the 85s. Numbers mean jack shit. 315lbs is a good bench dude.
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DJ181 that's who! >:(
Wolfcocks spoke without thinking, I'm sure he regrets making that post.
im sure he at times regrets being born
I knew there was bound to be one of you.
I have horrible bench mechanics and could never go more than 225x4 off the juice. I've only been juicing for a couple months, and I literally NEVER ORM. I pretty much always do sets of 245x8-10.
nevermind the hate coming from all wind directions, you know the drill, eat not too much, lift rather too much and stay tuned(on supps) at all times
talking has never built muscle 8)
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im sure he at times regrets being born
nevermind the hate coming from all wind directions, you know the drill, eat not too much, lift rather too much and stay tuned(on supps) at all times
talking has never built muscle 8)
Yeah, plus he's just a hater anyway, it's always funny to watch guys like him post the same shit over and over trying to get a reaction from members.
It makes me laugh.
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today in gym,i observed the following.
1 guy doing 315 on incline bench for some forced quick reps,slightly spotted.
1 guy doing decline bench with 200 for solid slow full rom reps.
1 guy doing 130lbs(1 plate a side) on flat bench on extremly slow execution,perfect reps.
guess the particular chest development order.
Yeah, plus he's just a hater anyway, it's always funny to watch guys like him post the same shit over and over trying to get a reaction from members.
It makes me laugh.
he will never get anywhere, never ever.lacks uhm, everything.
if i talk shit, its always jokes, and i paid the dues ,is not bragging when you can back things up.
i agree the talking should b ereserved for later on.
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today in gym,i observed the following.
1 guy doing 315 on incline bench for some forced quick reps,slightly spotted.
1 guy doing decline bench with 200 for solid slow full rom reps.
1 guy doing 130lbs(1 plate a side) on flat bench on extremly slow execution,perfect reps.
guess the particular chest development order.
he will never get anywhere, never ever.lacks uhm, everything.
if i talk shit, its always jokes, and i paid the dues ,is not bragging when you can back things up.
i agree the talking should b ereserved for later on.
Agreed. I do full ROM, stopping just short of lockout and never taking tension off the muscle, focusing on the pump. Like I said, usually 245lbs for 8-10 reps, 4 sets.
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Agreed. I do full ROM, stopping just short of lockout and never taking tension off the muscle, focusing on the pump. Like I said, usually 245lbs for 8-10 reps, 4 sets.
yah, hamdi aykutlug trains never heavier than 220lbs on bench press, does slow perfect reps,and uhm, well it was good enough for multiple amateur world championships, and 1 time stepping on mr polympia stage.
meanwhile, theres the small twink idiots,excatly like wolfox ,who havent got the slightest clue(but think they do) saying "but the guy is quite weak".
oh brother.
i trained heavy when younger, had worse(haha yes even worse than now)chest,and see where it got me, blown out shoulder, doc said "Youve totalled that"
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No need to justify yourself. Honestly Bodybuilders should care fuck all about numbers. I still play with the big dumbells, 130s, almost 140s, but my best pumps are from the 85s. Numbers mean jack shit. 315lbs is a good bench dude.
No offence but you're physique doesn't exactly scream power
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No offence but you're physique doesn't exactly scream power
I take the complete muscletech line.
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What type of doses is this hebrew on?
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Old............ POsted a million times ect ect...
Getbig has decided he is eating squirrel eggs including the shell (which is forbidden in most countries).
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why is it when a genetic freak pops up everyone is the first to discredit him with drugs? The kid is 19 and stronger than ronnie or kevin levrone. you think he took more drugs than those guys ::)
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why is it when a genetic freak pops up everyone is the first to discredit him with drugs? The kid is 19 and stronger than ronnie or kevin levrone. you think he took more drugs than those guys ::)
Those guys had to juice to the gills to get to 245lbs not this kid. Thats the difference, bigger guys can bench bigger weight and thats it.
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Those guys had to juice to the gills to get to 245lbs not this kid. Thats the difference, bigger guys can bench bigger weight and thats it.
kevin was benching 495 for 3 reps touch and go at about 245 after years of anabolics. Most Ive ever seen ronnie get was 495 for 5 touch and go. This kid is doing 515 paused at 245.. He's stronger than two of the strongest bodybuilders we've seen in the past 20 years as a teenager. Well maybe not stronger but in the ballpark. Imagine him by 25?
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kevin was benching 495 for 3 reps touch and go at about 245 after years of anabolics. This kid is doing 515 paused at 245.. He's stronger than two of the strongest bodybuilders we've seen in the past 20 years as a teenager.
and he's also on a ton of drugs, like every other teenage wunderkinder to make youtube videos.
obviously great genetics but juiced to the eyeballs, obviously not on as much as levrone but hes not in the same league as levrone physically.
there are some guys benching 500+ on YT that look like they barely lift, apart from the bloated sausage, estrogen pickled look of an all you can eat anadrol + test buffet
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I can bench 400 on relatively small doses (not a teen, but not an old powerlifter either. Not even a powerlifter.). Could do 440 with some help from orals in a few months, but the rest 60+ pounds sounds heavy still... He's strong. On a shitload of stuff, but strong regardless..
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Kids got a close grip there.
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I can bench 400 on relatively small doses (not a teen, but not an old powerlifter either. Not even a powerlifter.). Could do 440 with some help from orals in a few months, but the rest 60+ pounds sounds heavy still... He's strong. On a shitload of stuff, but strong regardless..
got a video of this?
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I think people seriously underestimate what it takes for a relatively tall guy to bench 400 pounds. lets take me for example. I can military press 225 15-20 reps any time I want to. I do tricep extension with 135...benched 315 10 times. inclined 225 for 20-25 reps. legit 18 inch arms...
And I can BARELY bench 390 without a spotter. It went up the other night but man it was slow...I truly feel 405 would be out of reach for me...unless I was on stimulants or something. And even then Im not somebody you tango with.
My point is A 400lb bench is an all around bad mother fucker....and it pisses me the fuck off when people throw it around like its not a big deal. even 315 is very good...
Mawse..major props on the vid. Less than 5 to 10 guys who can bench 405 on get big
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I think people seriously underestimate what it takes for a relatively tall guy to bench 400 pounds. lets take me for example. I can military press 225 15-20 reps any time I want to. I do tricep extension with 135...benched 315 10 times. inclined 225 for 20-25 reps. legit 18 inch arms...
And I can BARELY bench 390 without a spotter. It went up the other night but man it was slow...I truly feel 405 would be out of reach for me...unless I was on stimulants or something. And even then Im not somebody you tango with.
My point is A 400lb bench is an all around bad mother fucker....and it pisses me the fuck off when people throw it around like its not a big deal. even 315 is very good...
Mawse..major props on the vid. Less than 5 to 10 guys who can bench 405 on get big
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got a video of this?
Could take anytime, but what's the point. I've been training consistently for almost 14 years, you can be sure I'm quite strong (my tricep extensions are 180-190lb btw. Not a perfect skull crusher, but not a full blown french extensions either, in-between)..
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Could take anytime, but what's the point. I've been training consistently for almost 14 years, you can be sure I'm quite strong (my tricep extensions are 180-190lb btw. Not a perfect skull crusher, but not a full blown french extensions either, in-between)..
no big deal bud it wasn't at you. Still a 440 bench would be extremely impressive
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kevin was benching 495 for 3 reps touch and go at about 245 after years of anabolics. Most Ive ever seen ronnie get was 495 for 5 touch and go. This kid is doing 515 paused at 245.. He's stronger than two of the strongest bodybuilders we've seen in the past 20 years as a teenager. Well maybe not stronger but in the ballpark. Imagine him by 25?
And, this kind of thing has been in occurring in high school weight rooms for the last 30 years just now though with youtube and cell phones do we see it all the time. Right, i cant stand every time someone with a strong bench comes around, steriods are called into question. Imagine him by 25.. well, thats considering he doesnt get injured along the way or isnt incarcerated, maybe he'll make progress. But, this is probably the peak of his power...
All my friends and contacts that had fat high school bench records, cant do that anymore and have other joint issues coming up.
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I'd take a tango Flint (no homo)
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M.O'Hearn is freakishly strong too https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152134381566430
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I think people seriously underestimate what it takes for a relatively tall guy to bench 400 pounds. lets take me for example. I can military press 225 15-20 reps any time I want to. I do tricep extension with 135...benched 315 10 times. inclined 225 for 20-25 reps. legit 18 inch arms...
And I can BARELY bench 390 without a spotter. It went up the other night but man it was slow...I truly feel 405 would be out of reach for me...unless I was on stimulants or something. And even then Im not somebody you tango with.
My point is A 400lb bench is an all around bad mother fucker....and it pisses me the fuck off when people throw it around like its not a big deal. even 315 is very good...
Mawse..major props on the vid. Less than 5 to 10 guys who can bench 405 on get big
good stuff flint. One thing though, I am questioning your range of motion on military press unless you are doing it on the smith machine which is not a true lift anyway. The reason is because on a legit 45lb bar and 2 plates per side free weight for 20 military press reps, you should be smashing 4 plate per side like butter on the flat.
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good stuff flint. One thing though, I am questioning your range of motion on military press unless you are doing it on the smith machine which is not a true lift anyway. The reason is because on a legit 45lb bar and 2 plates per side free weight for 20 military press reps, you should be smashing 4 plate per side like butter on the flat.
I saw a video of fintstones hit it for like 14 clean iirc. That was a little while back, Its plausible he has upped the dose and can hit it for 20 now.
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I saw a video of fintstones hit it for like 14 clean iirc. That was a little while back, Its plausible he has upped the dose and can hit it for 20 now.
oh nice, ya strong dude for sure, i wonder why he hasn't got 4 plates yet on flat, maybe it is a psychological thing.
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Its a wrist thing for me. Anything higher than 325ish and my wrist doesnt want to bend anymore for the rest of the day!
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oh nice, ya strong dude for sure, i wonder why he hasn't got 4 plates yet on flat, maybe it is a psychological thing.
I think so too. you dream about being that guy in your gym to bench 4 wheels a side since your like 15 years old and then your finally under it...like stage fright or something. Id have to get under 405 without knowing there was 405 on the bar to have a shot at it
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I think so too. you dream about being that guy in your gym to bench 4 wheels a side since your like 15 years old and then your finally under it...like stage fright or something. Id have to get under 405 without knowing there was 405 on the bar to have a shot at it
ya man, I would grab 315 and do a few reps every workout, I mean just one set and just 3 or 4 reps every day for like a month and you will lose that fear of the 4 plates