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Title: China and their fakes
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 03, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
http://www.amog.com/cars-2/153741-20-car-replicas-china/

That link has to do with cars.  I was expecting an almost 1:1 Grade A replica.  Apparently they only reserve that for Nikes and Rolexes.

I did read last year about a counterfeit Starbucks.  Yeah... they faked a whole fucking store.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: phreak on February 03, 2014, 01:15:53 PM
Just like Japan could only produce inferior copies. Until they raped the world 30 years later.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Nails on February 03, 2014, 01:20:34 PM
do they export these shits  ??? if not who gives a shit
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: temple_of_dis on February 03, 2014, 02:54:51 PM
russia has 100s of tons of diamonds in a crater

diamonds even not unique now

hek manufactured diamonds are perfect lol

end the diamond and car bs!
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Nails on February 03, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
the diamond , the Great Jew scam
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 03, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
russia has 100s of tons of diamonds in a crater

diamonds even not unique now

hek manufactured diamonds are perfect lol

end the diamond and car bs!

The jews were claiming machine made diamonds were shit so they took a 4 karat perfect diamond to a jewler and he was blown away, then they pulled out 5 more the exact same and he fell out of his chair thinking it was impossible.  hahaha.

Jewels even have the word Jew in it.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 03, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
The jews were claiming machine made diamonds were shit so they took a 4 karat perfect diamond to a jewler and he was blown away, then they pulled out 5 more the exact same and he fell out of his chair thinking it was impossible.  hahaha.

Jewels even have the word Jew in it.


hahahaha
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Bevo on February 03, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
Just like Japan could only produce inferior copies. Until they raped the world 30 years later.

Japan never produced inferior copies or products, their culture is a lot different and they pride themselves in work ethic, quality/workmanship.

Copies, yes, to a degree but to say inferior products isn't accurate
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
Just like Japan could only produce inferior copies. Until they raped the world 30 years later.
The Yamato would like to have a word with you. Granted, it's at the bottom of the ocean.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Yamato_during_Trial_Service.jpg)
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: hrspwr1 on February 03, 2014, 04:20:02 PM
The Yamato would like to have a word with you. Granted, it's at the bottom of the ocean.


  :D
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Bevo on February 03, 2014, 04:22:14 PM
The Yamato would like to have a word with you. Granted, it's at the bottom of the ocean.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Yamato_during_Trial_Service.jpg)

X2 people are very ignorant to make remarks like that

Japan set themselves up to model after the west

"Inferior" is not something I would put Japan in the category of as far as products, cars, etc...

Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: WannaBePro on February 03, 2014, 05:41:44 PM
Saw these all over the place in Ukraine! Eastern Europe is crazy for these cheap-ass cars.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Hulkotron on February 03, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
http://www.amog.com/cars-2/153741-20-car-replicas-china/

That link has to do with cars.  I was expecting an almost 1:1 Grade A replica.  Apparently they only reserve that for Nikes and Rolexes.

I did read last year about a counterfeit Starbucks.  Yeah... they faked a whole fucking store.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Spike on February 03, 2014, 05:51:33 PM
The jews were claiming machine made diamonds were shit so they took a 4 karat perfect diamond to a jewler and he was blown away, then they pulled out 5 more the exact same and he fell out of his chair thinking it was impossible.  hahaha.

Jewels even have the word Jew in it.
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Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: galain on February 03, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
A lot of the Chinese fakes are shit.

A lot of them aren't. Many companies share factories for production - the labels go on some products and on others, the same product gets a different cosmetic, different name but is essentially the same.

I think quality control is probably a lot better with the name companies, but sometimes you'll get exactly the same thing. My cousin had the Fila contract for Singapore for quite awhile - and the clothes that came from the factory in China were nothing but standard things you'd pay low prices for, until she started sewing Fila patches onto them. At the time (late 90's, early 00's) she told me the tennis company Babolat (Nadal's sponsor) were having major issues because their factory in China was producing knockoffs using the same materials and molds and selling them for nothing. Basically the same racquets.

It's in the Chinese character to cheat. They don't see it as cheating. If you're smart enough to copy someone's good idea, you're a good businessman!
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 04, 2014, 12:15:06 AM
- Japan started ,South Korea screw Japs,Taiwan bonked Korea,now China fucks all,India will follow,Brazil too.......
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Skeletor on February 04, 2014, 12:20:10 AM
The infamous Chery Amulet crash test...

Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Tapeworm on February 04, 2014, 12:33:36 AM
Everyone regards chinese products as crap.  They'll never be able to sell to people who are willing to pay for quality, even if there's nothing wrong with the item.  They have relegated themselves to making cheap, disposable goods.  I doubt their reputation will recover.

I've had guys try to sell me chinese machine tools.  Lol.  No.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 02:16:42 AM
Japan never produced inferior copies or products, their culture is a lot different and they pride themselves in work ethic, quality/workmanship.

Copies, yes, to a degree but to say inferior products isn't accurate

This!

I've worked for both Japs and Chinks. With Chinks you are more likely to get in trouble for wasting stuff. For Japs, you got in trouble for doing a half ass job. Even the bathrooms had to be clean enough to do open heart surgery.

Japs > Chinks and all other Asians (haven't made up my mind about Koreas thought)
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 02:18:44 AM
X2 people are very ignorant to make remarks like that

Japan set themselves up to model after the west

"Inferior" is not something I would put Japan in the category of as far as products, cars, etc...



It was Japan that forced the US to start making better cars in the 1980s.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: phreak on February 04, 2014, 03:28:17 AM
Japan never produced inferior copies or products, their culture is a lot different and they pride themselves in work ethic, quality/workmanship.

Copies, yes, to a degree but to say inferior products isn't accurate
My father had the misfortune of selling some of the first Hondas that were sold here in Holland. Yes, they were total shit. Engines were good, but QC was nonexistent and they rusted like they'd never seen a coat of primer.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 03:40:29 AM
My father had the misfortune of selling some of the first Hondas that were sold here in Holland. Yes, they were total shit. Engines were good, but QC was nonexistent and they rusted like they'd never seen a coat of primer.
Toyotas were known for rust. And so were Porsche 911s. And Brits, well quality control were curse words.
The Chinese tend to skirt around things. Like if you gave them a recipe for A banana split, they'd purposely forget the banana, and put banana flavoring in...never mind it's a "banana" split.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: The_Punisher on February 04, 2014, 05:17:39 AM
so China thought they could get their own rover to the moon too just like the US?, well, another defective chinese product has landed in a foreign land..... :)......wait and see when they try to send this Rover to mars, I'm sure it will die on the way before making it half way......Go, China.. ::)

The six-wheeled lunar rover is likely to shut down after experiencing "abnormalities" - but China's state media have given Jade Rabbit a voice
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 04, 2014, 05:23:53 AM
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 05:33:18 AM
so China thought they could get their own rover to the moon too just like the US?, well, another defective chinese product has landed in a foreign land..... :)......wait and see when they try to send this Rover to mars, I'm sure it will die on the way before making it half way......Go, China.. ::)

The six-wheeled lunar rover is likely to shut down after experiencing "abnormalities" - but China's state media have given Jade Rabbit a voice

Yeah, the Jade Rabbit has apparently died.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 04, 2014, 06:45:28 AM
The infamous Chery Amulet crash test...



Why is it infamous?
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 04, 2014, 06:51:03 AM
Toyotas were known for rust. And so were Porsche 911s. And Brits, well quality control were curse words.
The Chinese tend to skirt around things. Like if you gave them a recipe for A banana split, they'd purposes forget the banana, and put banana flavoring in...never mind it's a "banana" split.


I did a real LOL at this one.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 04, 2014, 07:15:16 AM
Chinese people are the most untrustworthy people in the world next to Indians.  I would trust a negro with my money before handing a penny over to a chinaman or indian.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 04, 2014, 08:26:48 AM
Chinese people are the most untrustworthy people in the world next to Indians.  I would trust a negro with my money before handing a penny over to a chinaman or indian.
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I've got a 3 developers on my team, one 45 year old Chinese guy and two mid 50's Americans.  The Chinese guy shows up on time and prepared to meetings, graciously accepts the tasks he gets, communicates effectively during the sprints and produces his deliverables on time.  The two older American developers sponge up time "architecting" solutions that are already done, complain about early meeting times, that they have to put time and expenses into two different systems, that they don't get to choose which tasks to work on and have constant excuses why their work is blocked.  The only advantage they have is they "talk" better in front of the client.

I'd drop them in a minute if I could.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 04, 2014, 09:17:29 AM
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I've got a 3 developers on my team, one 45 year old Chinese guy and two mid 50's Americans.  The Chinese guy shows up on time and prepared to meetings, graciously accepts the tasks he gets, communicates effectively during the sprints and produces his deliverables on time.  The two older American developers sponge up time "architecting" solutions that are already done, complain about early meeting times, that they have to put time and expenses into two different systems, that they don't get to choose which tasks to work on and have constant excuses why their work is blocked.  The only advantage they have is they "talk" better in front of the client.

I'd drop them in a minute if I could.

You are giving an example of work ethic.  Did I mention work ethic?  Asians and Indians will put in a lot of work hours, but trust them with money?  fuck no.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 04, 2014, 09:33:03 AM
I am contacting Kim right now to launch a missile at them.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Nails on February 04, 2014, 11:02:32 AM
Why is it infamous?

i think it was only a 35 mph crash test , and it was ruled that "almost no chance to survive crash"
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Bevo on February 04, 2014, 12:48:32 PM
My father had the misfortune of selling some of the first Hondas that were sold here in Holland. Yes, they were total shit. Engines were good, but QC was nonexistent and they rusted like they'd never seen a coat of primer.

Compare those to american and British cars and to some degree some Germans during those time and u are in for a surprise  ;D
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Schmoff on February 04, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
the funny part of this thread is that a bunch of americans complain about chinks and their products on a bodybuilding board with the computer, phone, or whatever made in china

and guess what,

chinks don't give a shit, they don't even read getbig,

because we don't produce and manufacture any more

Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: deadz on February 04, 2014, 05:16:29 PM
This!

I've worked for both Japs and Chinks. With Chinks you are more likely to get in trouble for wasting stuff. For Japs, you got in trouble for doing a half ass job. Even the bathrooms had to be clean enough to do open heart surgery.

Japs > Chinks and all other Asians (haven't made up my mind about Koreas thought)
Jap women FTW all day everyday.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Hulkotron on February 04, 2014, 05:18:09 PM
the funny part of this thread is that a bunch of americans complain about chinks and their products on a bodybuilding board with the computer, phone, or whatever made in china

and guess what,

chinks don't give a shit, they don't even read getbig,

because we don't produce and manufacture any more



Getbig.com is probably blocked in China

Far too many secrets revealed here.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
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I've got a 3 developers on my team, one 45 year old Chinese guy and two mid 50's Americans.  The Chinese guy shows up on time and prepared to meetings, graciously accepts the tasks he gets, communicates effectively during the sprints and produces his deliverables on time.  The two older American developers sponge up time "architecting" solutions that are already done, complain about early meeting times, that they have to put time and expenses into two different systems, that they don't get to choose which tasks to work on and have constant excuses why their work is blocked.  The only advantage they have is they "talk" better in front of the client.

I'd drop them in a minute if I could.

I'll give them that. The Chinese worker-bee class are like no other. They work themselves to death and give no back talk to their Overlords. That's why they are going to be the next super power. Americans have gotten soft and complacent. The Chinese are hungry, greedy and discipline. The drone working class just accepts suffering as a normal part of life and seem to passively comply and accept their station in life.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: che on February 04, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
They work themselves to death and give no back talk to their Overlords.

Fucking retards
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
Fucking retards

Unfortunately those retards are going to be running the world.

Like all third world countries there's no middle class. With China you have at the very top the few bright and ruthless ruling class. At the other end you have this unimaginably huge and expendable working class solely at their mercy.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: che on February 04, 2014, 07:16:39 PM
Unfortunately those retards are going to be running the world.


The ones working themselves to death for $2 a day , are not going to run shit .
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 04, 2014, 07:46:39 PM
Hard to rule the world when they have a one birth max cap in some areas.  All those little chinny boys won't be hooking up with too many girls. 
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
The ones working themselves to death for $2 a day , are not going to run shit .

What? Are you serious? They are the ones who do all the shit. All the manufacturing and production. Their cheap labor is what's killing us economically.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
Hard to rule the world when they have a one birth max cap in some areas.  All those little chinny boys won't be hooking up with too many girls. 

It's because there are billions of them already. Part of their dominance in the world is their sheer numbers. Haven't you heard how the yuan is moving closer and closer to being the international currency?
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 08:56:47 PM
What? Are you serious? They are the ones who do all the shit. All the manufacturing and production. Their cheap labor is what's killing us economically.
Manufacturing is starting to move away from China. The Chinese workers have started to demand more. And sales of Luxury cars are slowing down now as well. Now, manufacturing is moving more to African nations, and other Asian nations. Even China is moving manufacturing to Africa.
 You can only exploit the "cheap labor" force of billions for so long.  
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: pellius on February 04, 2014, 09:03:40 PM
Manufacturing is starting to move away from China. The Chinese workers have started to demand more. And sales of Luxury cars are slowing down now as well. Now, manufacturing is moving more to African nations, and other Asian nations. Even China is moving manufacturing to Africa.
 You can only exploit the "cheap labor" force of billions for so long.  

OK, if you say so. Maybe African production is going up but that doesn't mean China manufacturing is going down. I don't see to many products that say "Made in Africa". Virtually everything nowadays comes from Asia.

But I'm not going to argue. America role is getting weaker not because we are getting softer and lazier but more and more complacent. We just take it granted that we will always be a super power and the leader in the world. Other nations that were more powerful and lasted a lot longer than we did eventually had to take a back seat.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
OK, if you say so. Maybe African production is going up but that doesn't mean China manufacturing is going down. I don't see to many products that say "Made in Africa". Virtually everything nowadays comes from Asia.

But I'm not going to argue. America role is getting weaker not because we are getting softer and lazier but more and more complacent. We just take it granted that we will always be a super power and the leader in the world. Other nations that were more powerful and lasted a lot longer than we did eventually had to take a back seat.
Chinese manufacturing is slowing down, their economy is slowing down. Chinese workers are demanding more. The Chinese have set up manufacturing in Ethiopia and other African nations. The slogan for many African nations is "Invest, not aid"...many companies are the Obama Administration are considering certain African nations. the problem is that we (the US) have certain stipulations with dealing with dictators and human rights violators in Africa, and do not allow our companies to manufacture or deal with said countries. funny, how this doesn't apply to China.

I agree, our role is getting weaker...just look at your Heroin thread. We are a nation whose people are more invested in getting high, drunk, our looks, and materialism than we are about our wellbeing---jobs, physical, spiritual, and mental. And the politicians know this.
Look at the thread TA started---Bill Nye "owning" Ham. Notice the adversarial tone that we as a nation have taken up with one another.  We are more focused on being adversaries with each other than the growth of our nation.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Schmoff on February 04, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
Chinese manufacturing is slowing down, their economy is slowing down. Chinese workers are demanding more. The Chinese have set up manufacturing in Ethiopia and other African nations. The slogan for many African nations is "Invest, not aid"...many companies are the Obama Administration are considering certain African nations. the problem is that we (the US) have certain stipulations with dealing with dictators and human rights violators in Africa, and do not allow our companies to manufacture or deal with said countries. funny, how this doesn't apply to China.

I agree, our role is getting weaker...just look at your Heroin thread. We are a nation whose people are more invested in getting high, drunk, our looks, and materialism than we are about our wellbeing---jobs, physical, spiritual, and mental. And the politicians know this.
Look at the thread TA started---Bill Nye "owning" Ham. Notice the adversarial tone that we as a nation have taken up with one another.  We are more focused on being adversaries with each other than the growth of our nation.

curious, I have never seen any blacks who are so into china and chinese stuff,

why are you so interested in china?
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
curious, I have never seen any blacks who are so into china and chinese stuff,

why are you so interested in china?
It comes from several reasons. Back in college before it was en vogue, I read a ton of books on China...and have a lot more that I haven't read since then, literally about 15-20 books.
Also, if you look at how the Chinese is trying to ingratiate itself with Africans using a slogan of "together the Chinese and African can defeat the West"....using a " You can trust us we're not white" theme. I believe that the Chinese should be watched with a decerning eye, due to this maybe the second raping of Africa.
And, if you visit any Chinese websites, they tend to have this mentality of the kid who just inherited millions of dollars...brash, arrogant, insolent, and full of oneself.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: galain on February 04, 2014, 10:40:05 PM
It comes from several reasons. Back in college before it was en vogue, I read a ton of books on China...and have a lot more that I haven't read since then, literally about 15-20 books.
Also, if you look at how the Chinese is trying to ingratiate itself with Africans using a slogan of "together the Chinese and African can defeat the West"....using a " You can trust us we're not white" theme. I believe that the Chinese should be watched with a decerning eye, due to this maybe the second raping of Africa.
And, if you visit any Chinese websites, they tend to have this mentality of the kid who just inherited millions of dollars...brash, arrogant, insolent, and full of oneself.


Yes - a good part of my family is as your describe.

One thing few people in the west understand, is that the Chinese have a very different concept of time. I remember my grandmother telling me that Japan would pay for their war crimes (and her husband was Japanese!). I was young at the time but even then, when she started saying '100 years, 400 years, doesn't matter. China will make them bow down", I was surprised.

Look at what China has done to Tibet. Send in some workers first (well, in this case after the military). Pay them well so that they'll stay. Send in some more. Start to infiltrate the local population. Slowly introduce more and more aspects of chinese culture (even if it takes a few generations). Eventually, you have a place that once upon a time wasn't Chinese, but now is.

Same thing is happening now in Burma with all the road builders. They're not going home and more and more are moving in.

Same thing will happen in Africa. That's where their world domination will start and it won't look like much (because it's Africa), but it's just a stepping stone, and with such a long term perspective, it'll only be a small piece of the puzzle for them.

Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 04, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
Yes - a good part of my family is as your describe.

One thing few people in the west understand, is that the Chinese have a very different concept of time. I remember my grandmother telling me that Japan would pay for their war crimes (and her husband was Japanese!). I was young at the time but even then, when she started saying '100 years, 400 years, doesn't matter. China will make them bow down", I was surprised.

Look at what China has done to Tibet. Send in some workers first (well, in this case after the military). Pay them well so that they'll stay. Send in some more. Start to infiltrate the local population. Slowly introduce more and more aspects of chinese culture (even if it takes a few generations). Eventually, you have a place that once upon a time wasn't Chinese, but now is.

Same thing is happening now in Burma with all the road builders. They're not going home and more and more are moving in.

Same thing will happen in Africa. That's where their world domination will start and it won't look like much (because it's Africa), but it's just a stepping stone, and with such a long term perspective, it'll only be a small piece of the puzzle for them.


And that is what I believe many Africans don't realize. They have set up Chinatowns in various African countries...I have read articles where slowly, you started seeing  a few trucks with Chinese written on them, and then you start to see more. And in Ethiopia, there are pictures of a boot factory where they show the dominate languages from order. And Chinese is on top.
Stupid Mugabe gets Chinese Ak-47 knocks offs so that he can shoot his people and remain in power.
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Bevo on February 04, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
curious, I have never seen any blacks who are so into china and chinese stuff,

why are you so interested in china?

Don't know where u live but blacks love Kung fu and Chinese take out food! Ever heard of Bruce Leroy?

Or watched rush hour??
Title: Re: China and their fakes
Post by: Parker on February 05, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Aston Martin having to recall cars due to counterfeit plastics on accelerator arms
 http://jalopnik.com/chinese-counterfeit-plastic-forces-aston-martin-to-reca-1516627635 (http://jalopnik.com/chinese-counterfeit-plastic-forces-aston-martin-to-reca-1516627635)