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Title: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 09, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
As we get older we get smarter. Same style of training I learned from Ron Love. His training philosophy I endorse 100% and recommend it to all aspiring bodybuilders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514)

maybe someone knows how to embed it
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: AVBG on February 09, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
As we get older we get smarter. Same style of training I learned from Ron Love. His training philosophy I endorse 100% and recommend it to all aspiring bodybuilders.


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Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: SF1900 on February 09, 2014, 11:51:18 AM
As we get older we get smarter. Same style of training I learned from Ron Love. His training philosophy I endorse 100% and recommend it to all aspiring bodybuilders.




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Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Antonio fella on February 09, 2014, 11:51:59 AM
Link bitch   ;D :D
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Papper on February 09, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
the core of his "philosophy" is most likely to shoot up drugs regurlarly and the training part is probably not rocket science
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Pete Nice on February 09, 2014, 12:06:50 PM
High volume, lighter weights, a lot of pumping sets.  The philosophy is interesting, but it's hard to say if it was that type of training that gave him his current size.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Skeletor on February 09, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
It certainly works for bathroom shots. Just avoid visiting Sweden..
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 09, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
The link is up.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Simple Simon on February 09, 2014, 01:54:58 PM
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: jude2 on February 09, 2014, 02:39:04 PM
Crazy to watch him train and then watch Branch and JOJ. Tony does look good for his late 40's.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Simple Simon on February 09, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
I train like that, apart from the one arm at a time stuff.
As an older guy its wise to lay off the heavy weights.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Schnauzer on February 09, 2014, 02:42:58 PM
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: The Scott on February 09, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
the core of his "philosophy" is most likely to shoot up drugs regurlarly and the training part is probably not rocket science
This.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Parker on February 09, 2014, 03:19:53 PM
Crazy to watch him train and then watch Branch and JOJ. Tony does look good for his late 40's.
Well, one could say he is a product of the 90s. He couldn't get his pro card back then, and got his pro card in the 2000s when the quality thinned out. So, his training is reminiscent of an era gone by.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: stavios on February 09, 2014, 08:54:14 PM
Dexter kind of train this way too

best way to train, maybe you won't get as strong or as thick, but at least you'll remain injury free (well at least less chances of injury)
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 09, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
I will train this way for a month (using unilateral movement and more than 15 reps). I want to incorporate this into my training.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 09, 2014, 09:01:42 PM
I'm still relatively young at 25...so I like doing one balls out heavy exercise (bench, deads, squats), and then a plethora of these pump sets after that like Toney does. Seems a good balance.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 09, 2014, 09:03:19 PM
I'm still relatively young at 25...so I like doing one balls out heavy exercise (bench, deads, squats), and then a plethora of these pump sets after that like Toney does. Seems a good balance.
Once you get injured, God forbid, you will have to train smarter. No benefit in going heavy.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: stavios on February 09, 2014, 09:05:10 PM
Once you get injured, God forbid, you will have to train smarter. No benefit in going heavy.

x2
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 09, 2014, 09:08:21 PM
Once you get injured, God forbid, you will have to train smarter. No benefit in going heavy.

My routine is pretty modest with only one heavy exercise; not like Branch who goes HAM for 35 sets. You really think you can't do the Big 3 lifts for sub-6 reps into your old age?
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Benjamin_pearson on February 09, 2014, 09:23:36 PM
My routine is pretty modest with only one heavy exercise; not like Branch who goes HAM for 35 sets. You really think you can't do the Big 3 lifts for sub-6 reps into your old age?

Respect gotta do the big three to look good

Unless your juiced to the grills
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: dustin on February 09, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
Once you get injured, God forbid, you will have to train smarter. No benefit in going heavy.

It's not HUGE numbers but I was benching over 300lbs regularly when I realized it was doing nothing for my pecs that benching 225lbs or less could.

I think that there's a strength and size correlation, but ridiculously heavy weights have no place in bodybuilding. Not if you care about longevity at least...
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: jr on February 09, 2014, 10:01:00 PM
Ronnie Coleman's training routine is the best because Ronnie Coleman has the biggest muscles. It's just common sense.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: SF1900 on February 09, 2014, 10:16:21 PM
Id imagine the one arm dumbbell press would feel awkward. Would probably take some getting used to.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 01:57:41 AM
Id imagine the one arm dumbbell press would feel awkward. Would probably take some getting used to.
For sure. I'll have to focus more. I noticed that when I am lazy and do not focus I tend to swing bigger weights as an excuse. And to impress others because it does not aid building more muscle.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 10, 2014, 05:41:12 AM
Wider,taller, and more convincing than Heath ....




How old is he?



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2014, 05:43:40 AM
Wider,taller, and more convincing than Heath ....




How old is he?



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH
he's 46 I think he's a good tall bber
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: CalvinH on February 10, 2014, 06:06:35 AM
I'm still relatively young at 25...so I like doing one balls out heavy exercise (bench, deads, squats), and then a plethora of these pump sets after that like Toney does. Seems a good balance.


Same here workout wise.



...no homo ???
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
Who the fuck cares what you "endorse"? You're an established assclown with zero accomplishments. Just a string of false starts. Go away.
:D random angry post of the year
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Simple Simon on February 10, 2014, 06:24:57 AM
:D random angry accurate post of the year
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 06:26:59 AM

why do you follow me around like a lost puppy? You clearly mistake my dick for your mom's nipple.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 10, 2014, 06:49:30 AM

Same here workout wise.



...no homo ???

Wanna dock?
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Simple Simon on February 10, 2014, 06:54:15 AM
why do you follow me around like a lost puppy? You clearly mistake my dick for your mom's nipple.
Yep, same size, easy mistake to make.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 07:02:18 AM
You must be mistaking your father's dick for your mom's nipple ukjeff, which musta been the case during early childhood. This would explain why you substitute milk for cum and your current fuckedupintheheadness.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: falco on February 10, 2014, 07:04:48 AM
As we get older we get smarter. Same style of training I learned from Ron Love. His training philosophy I endorse 100% and recommend it to all aspiring bodybuilders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514)

maybe someone knows how to embed it

To embed it copy the link, paste it between the youtube icon and then delete the "s" of the https://.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 07:06:03 AM
To embed it copy the link, past it between the youtube icon and then delete the "s" of the https://.
is it different now then before? weird
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Simple Simon on February 10, 2014, 07:11:07 AM
You must be mistaking your father's dick for your mom's nipple ukjeff, which musta been the case during early childhood. This would explain why you substitute milk for cum and your current fuckedupintheheadness.
Cleanest Natural trying way too hard.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 10, 2014, 08:06:58 AM
Tony is a great guy.  I worked out with him many times when I lived in Atlanta.  We hung out in Vegas a good bit after the 2012 Olympia as well.  Dude is probably the second funniest pro that I know.  (Paul Baker being the first.)   Great guy, not just in terms of BBing either. 
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: wes on February 10, 2014, 08:59:08 AM
It's not HUGE numbers but I was benching over 300lbs regularly when I realized it was doing nothing for my pecs that benching 225lbs or less could.

I think that there's a strength and size correlation, but ridiculously heavy weights have no place in bodybuilding. Not if you care about longevity at least...
^^^THIS^^^
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: falco on February 10, 2014, 09:57:30 AM
is it different now then before? weird

It changed. I was making the same mistake.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 12:53:31 PM
It changed. I was making the same mistake.
Thank you for the tip.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
Tony is a great guy.  I worked out with him many times when I lived in Atlanta.  We hung out in Vegas a good bit after the 2012 Olympia as well.  Dude is probably the second funniest pro that I know.  (Paul Baker being the first.)   Great guy, not just in terms of BBing either. 
any stories?
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 10, 2014, 12:56:18 PM
1. Have black muscle genetics

2. Inject testosterone weekly

3. Post on getbig and obtain Squad endorsement
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 10, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
any stories?

A couple.  But nothing as shady or shifty like a few other pros.   And by pros I am referring to real PrOS types.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 10, 2014, 01:44:05 PM
A couple.  But nothing as shady or shifty like a few other pros.   And by pros I am referring to real PrOS types.
Wasn't suggesting any of that kind, training, food, hormones..this type.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: wild willie on February 10, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
As we get older we get smarter. Same style of training I learned from Ron Love. His training philosophy I endorse 100% and recommend it to all aspiring bodybuilders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGOsz_d514)

maybe someone knows how to embed it
I agree with you!! no ego training for the X MAN!!!!! He trains his muscles....not his ego.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 11, 2014, 12:21:36 AM
I am on the same page with him because throwing around big weights got me injured again and again. So I discovered that you can train better with light weights and learn to focus and isolate.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: SF1900 on February 11, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
For sure. I'll have to focus more. I noticed that when I am lazy and do not focus I tend to swing bigger weights as an excuse. And to impress others because it does not aid building more muscle.

For the last few months I've really been trying to focus on the mind-muscle connection. Lifting lighter and squeezing the muscle. But to be honest I do mix it up. I like to go lighter on certain exercises like dumbbell flies and heavier on benching exercises.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 11, 2014, 12:47:06 AM
For the last few months I've really been trying to focus on the mind-muscle connection. Lifting lighter and squeezing the muscle. But to be honest I do mix it up. I like to go lighter on certain exercises like dumbbell flies and heavier on benching exercises.
then you are not really focusing and feeling it .. once you do, you'll never go "heavy" again
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: SF1900 on February 11, 2014, 12:57:14 AM
then you are not really focusing and feeling it .. once you do, you'll never go "heavy" again


Thats the thing, I have had workouts where I was doing the mind-muscle connection the whole work out. I was going lighter and squeezing the muscle for every rep. Really putting my mind into the muscle throughout the whole work out.  However, old habits die hard (going heavy, well, heavy for me).
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: prizm on February 11, 2014, 01:08:55 AM
High volume, lighter weights, a lot of pumping sets.  The philosophy is interesting, but it's hard to say if it was that type of training that gave him his current size.

Years ago he talked about squatting 600 for reps at one point in his career.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 11, 2014, 01:33:01 AM
size is given by the quantity of the hormones flowing through the system not by heavy weights.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: NotMrAverage on February 11, 2014, 02:05:41 AM
For the last few months I've really been trying to focus on the mind-muscle connection. Lifting lighter and squeezing the muscle. But to be honest I do mix it up. I like to go lighter on certain exercises like dumbbell flies and heavier on benching exercises.

This!

Watched through some more vids of Toneys training. It is interesting stuff. Can't find his whole leg routine though. Only one with leg ext + leg curls being done same style as the rest.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2014, 06:33:00 AM
size is given by the quantity of the hormones flowing through the system not by heavy weights.
THIS...
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: gracie bjj on February 11, 2014, 06:49:46 AM
when u been training 30 yrs u learn how to take a 30lb dumbell n make it feel like 80lbs from mind/muscle connection n great form, at 48 yrs old i gotta train smart or ill b sitting home injured n thats not gonna help my muscle growth
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2014, 06:53:11 AM
when u been training 30 yrs u learn how to take a 30lb dumbell n make it feel like 80lbs from mind/muscle connection n great form, at 48 yrs old i gotta train smart or ill b sitting home injured n thats not gonna help my muscle growth
good points man..
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 11, 2014, 11:48:00 AM
when u been training 30 yrs u learn how to take a 30lb dumbell n make it feel like 80lbs from mind/muscle connection n great form, at 48 yrs old i gotta train smart or ill b sitting home injured n thats not gonna help my muscle growth
indeed
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Wez on February 11, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
Used both the unilateral training and the 1 and 1/4 reps on back and triceps today and I must say I loved it. At 57 it felt good plus some crossfit chick was staring at me. Bonus!
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 11, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
Today I trained legs using all unilateral .. much better focusing on one leg, less weight, greater benefit.

I was so impressed with Freeman's common sense that I stood up until 1:30 AM watching every interview I could find. It was so nice to discover a smart bodybuilder, down to earth who made sense on every fucking subject.
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Wez on February 11, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
Today I trained legs using all unilateral .. much better focusing on one leg, less weight, greater benefit.

I was so impressed with Freeman's common sense that I stood up until 1:30 AM watching every interview I could find. It was so nice to discover a smart bodybuilder, down to earth who made sense on every fucking subject.

Agreed but that shirt! My wife said "really?"
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: Megalodon on February 11, 2014, 12:04:41 PM
 


If you ever see https get rid of the "s" so its just http and enclose the web address with youtube brackets by using the youtube icon within getbig on the far left
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2014, 12:14:21 PM
Who's that fucking moron behind him at 5 minutes in?  I can't stop laughing
Title: Re: I like Toney Freeman's training philosophy
Post by: local hero on February 11, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
when u been training 30 yrs u learn how to take a 30lb dumbell n make it feel like 80lbs from mind/muscle connection n great form, at 48 yrs old i gotta train smart or ill b sitting home injured n thats not gonna help my muscle growth

after 10yrs training there is no muscle growth unless hormone consumption rises, you can however maintain a good physique on less drugs and lifting alot lighter and smarter