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Title: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 09:32:45 PM
One of my friends just had a kidney fail (non bodybuilder, female) and is about to start dialysis.  Just made me think that here I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin, and eating like a gorilla...and other than getting bloodwork every 3 months (which is usually ok...blood pressure is always high).  I was thinking of adding in a little regimine....

what are the top 5 things I should be doing?

Donating blood?
Grapefruit (for eating/drinking, not pulling a Kai)
Asprin?
Fish Oils?

All ideas are welcome...
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2014, 09:40:20 PM
honestly, the more i see... the more I believe it all comes down to genetics.

if your dad/grandpa smoked like chimneys and drank every day of their lives, I doubt running some cycles is going to wreck you.   On the other hand, if both parents suffered heart disease in early 40s, then yeah, blood pressure would be extremely alarming. 

If you're taking a daily aspirin, fish oil, vitamins B, C, E, maybe cranberry... eating clean, drinking a gallon of water, and above all, not stressing things all that much, you're probably fine.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Icelord on February 20, 2014, 09:41:32 PM
you use GH and insulin...why?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ESFitness on February 20, 2014, 09:41:49 PM
One of my friends just had a kidney fail (non bodybuilder, female) and is about to start dialysis.  Just made me think that here I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin, and eating like a gorilla...and other than getting bloodwork every 3 months (which is usually ok...blood pressure is always high).  I was thinking of adding in a little regimine....

what are the top 5 things I should be doing?

Donating blood?
Grapefruit (for eating/drinking, not pulling a Kai)
Asprin?
Fish Oils?

All ideas are welcome...

drink the blood
absolutely fuck the grapefruit
snort the asprin
bathe in the fish oil

healthy as a horse  ;)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Rambone on February 20, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
drink the blood
absolutely fuck the grapefruit
snort the asprin
bathe in the fish oil

healthy as a horse  ;)

This man did and it completely changed his life



(http://forum.bonsuna.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a7a2e1068081a4b3ce7339bd12f43725&action=dlattach;topic=1520.0;attach=9651;image)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
honestly, the more i see... the more I believe it all comes down to genetics.

if your dad/grandpa smoked like chimneys and drank every day of their lives, I doubt running some cycles is going to wreck you.   On the other hand, if both parents suffered heart disease in early 40s, then yeah, blood pressure would be extremely alarming. 

If you're taking a daily aspirin, fish oil, vitamins B, C, E, maybe cranberry... eating clean, drinking a gallon of water, and above all, not stressing things all that much, you're probably fine.

BC and E in a mulit (like Orange Triad) good enough?

Genetics are against me....lots of cancer and high blood pressure.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:04:29 PM
you use GH and insulin...why?

Duh....I'm a diabetic dwarf....what other reasoner would a getbigger take it for?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
drink the blood
absolutely fuck the grapefruit
snort the asprin
bathe in the fish oil

healthy as a horse  ;)

...and video it all in the nude to pay for my drugs?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ESFitness on February 20, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
...and video it all in the nude to pay for my drugs?


and entrepreneur always recognizes another entrepreneur from across the room...
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 20, 2014, 10:13:35 PM
Cardio!!!!!

45-60 minutes everyday will go a long way, one of the best things you can do for yourself.

Besides that, eat many different fruits and vegetables everyday, don't eat too much in general, stay at as low a bodyweight as you're comfortable with (ie: lean out fatso), minimize stress from outside sources, and keep a positive outlook on things.

Any of these will do way more for your health than any supplement could ever do
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 10:15:05 PM
Cardio!!!!!

45-60 minutes everyday will go a long way, one of the best things you can do for yourself.

Besides that, eat many different fruits and vegetables everyday, don't eat too much in general, stay at as low a bodyweight as you're comfortable with (ie: lean out fatso), minimize stress from outside sources, and keep a positive outlook on things.

Any of these will do way more for your health than any supplement could ever do

I was very religious with Cardio for a long time, and got in good shape as far as that goes.

I recently switched to the 15 minute HIT routine that Layne Norton recommends, daily. Do you think that's as beneficial as far as "health" goes?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:21:26 PM
This man did and it completely changed his life



(http://forum.bonsuna.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a7a2e1068081a4b3ce7339bd12f43725&action=dlattach;topic=1520.0;attach=9651;image)


Definitely gonne have to add some caverject to my regimine in order to penetrate grapefruit skin.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 20, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
I was very religious with Cardio for a long time, and got in good shape as far as that goes.

I recently switched to the 15 minute HIT routine that Layne Norton recommends, daily. Do you think that's as beneficial as far as "health" goes?

Well, it seems like longer sessions of steady-state cardio are the best workouts for "heart-health".... five 30 minute sessions/week is a good place to start.

But really, the best kind of cardio is the one you're most likely to do.... so if you prefer HIT, go for it 8)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: AVBG on February 20, 2014, 10:27:29 PM
You're heading down the same path of kidney failure if you don't control your blood pressure - get specialist medical help and don't be a dickhead by seeking this advice from a gossip and opinion bb message board. HTH?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 10:29:43 PM
Well, it seems like longer sessions of steady-state cardio are the best workouts for "heart-health".... five 30 minute sessions/week is a good place to start.

But really, the best kind of cardio is the one you're most likely to do.... so if you prefer HIT, go for it 8)

Thanks for the advice broseph!  8)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Simple Simon on February 20, 2014, 10:29:56 PM
One of my friends just had a kidney fail (non bodybuilder, female) and is about to start dialysis.  Just made me think that here I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin, and eating like a gorilla...and other than getting bloodwork every 3 months (which is usually ok...blood pressure is always high).  I was thinking of adding in a little regimine....

what are the top 5 things I should be doing?

Donating blood?
Grapefruit (for eating/drinking, not pulling a Kai)
Asprin?
Fish Oils?

All ideas are welcome...
Didn't realise you needed dialysis when you only had one kidney fail, dont most people who donate a kidney lead normal lives with just one?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 20, 2014, 10:30:56 PM
You're heading down the same path of kidney failure if you don't control your blood pressure - get specialist medical help and don't be a dickhead by seeking this advice from a gossip and opinion bb message board. HTH?

Yes, if you're not able to get cardio in range with lifestyle modifications get on BP meds.  Don't fuck around with that
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: AVBG on February 20, 2014, 10:34:55 PM
Yes, if you're not able to get cardio in range with lifestyle modifications get on BP meds.  Don't fuck around with that

Fella might have inherent cardiac or cholesterol issues causing the elevated BP that may not be picked up by the MD. Not immediately dealing with this relatively basic issue = fail
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
Cardio!!!!!

45-60 minutes everyday will go a long way, one of the best things you can do for yourself.

Besides that, eat many different fruits and vegetables everyday, don't eat too much in general, stay at as low a bodyweight as you're comfortable with (ie: lean out fatso), minimize stress from outside sources, and keep a positive outlook on things.

Any of these will do way more for your health than any supplement could ever do

Well I'm bulking for the first time in 3 years at the moment and I'm banging my head against the wall at this point trying to gain some more size.  The plan is to bulk until September and then start prepping for a spring 2015 show.  I could add in more veggies....I'm already eating a couple cups of berries, pineapple, and 2-3 bananas a day.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
You're heading down the same path of kidney failure if you don't control your blood pressure - get specialist medical help and don't be a dickhead by seeking this advice from a gossip and opinion bb message board. HTH?

When they do my bloods they always say, "Well, blood pressure is a little high...lets keep an eye on that."  I'm usually 140-150/90-100.  I've thought of adding a half Cialis everyday to knock it down.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Didn't realise you needed dialysis when you only had one kidney fail, dont most people who donate a kidney lead normal lives with just one?

Her other kidney is at like 80% or something which is why they're doing it.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:43:10 PM
Yes, if you're not able to get cardio in range with lifestyle modifications get on BP meds.  Don't fuck around with that

Would the cardio even matter if I added in more calories to cancel it out?  I really want to grow.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
Weights before dates, mass before ass
-"Big" Roger F. Neegars
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:44:53 PM
Fella might have inherent cardiac or cholesterol issues causing the elevated BP that may not be picked up by the MD. Not immediately dealing with this relatively basic issue = fail

Cholesterol has always been good (after a 4 week cruise).  What other markers should I pay attention to?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: BAST on February 20, 2014, 10:45:53 PM
One of my friends just had a kidney fail (non bodybuilder, female) and is about to start dialysis.  Just made me think that here I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin, and eating like a gorilla...and other than getting bloodwork every 3 months (which is usually ok...blood pressure is always high).  I was thinking of adding in a little regimine....

what are the top 5 things I should be doing?

Donating blood?
Grapefruit (for eating/drinking, not pulling a Kai)
Asprin?
Fish Oils?

All ideas are welcome...

you should be considering taking less drugs, and making your health a priority over bodybuilding.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
you should be considering taking less drugs, and making your health a priority over bodybuilding.

Can I not strike a balance?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: BAST on February 20, 2014, 10:50:00 PM
Can I not strike a balance?

yea you wrote " I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin" so maybe do less no?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
yea you wrote " I am doing a lot of gear, hgh, insulin" so maybe do less no?

Fair enough.  Maybe I'll make every other cruise 8 weeks instead of 4 and see how that looks.  I try to time it with my HRT bloodwork so my test is safely in range when they draw.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 20, 2014, 11:09:36 PM
Fair enough.  Maybe I'll make every other cruise 8 weeks instead of 4 and see how that looks.  I try to time it with my HRT bloodwork so my test is safely in range when they draw.

Bro, it's stupid to just do nothing about your hypertension. You realize you are fucking yourself right?

If you refuse to reduce supplement use or other lifestyle modification to get under 80 diastolic then at least get on some Lisinopril.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 20, 2014, 11:14:53 PM
Some food for thought...

This is what I currently do:

Basically a paleo diet with added sweet potatoes and rice at various meals to up my carb intake.

Health supps: multi, apple cider vinegar, fish oils (diet needs to be HIGH in omega 3's), superfood powder goes in my morning shake, also drink about 8oz a day of cranberry juice concentrate, the expensive stuff that is sold in bottles and is sour as fuck. This isn't for my kidneys, it's for my LIVER (stole this from John Meadows.)

Cardio daily

Stay lean/light as possible while sticking to your goals

Bloodwork every few months. Blood pressure checks 1-2x a week.

Healthy as a horse  8)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 11:17:47 PM
Some food for thought...

This is what I currently do:

Basically a paleo diet with added sweet potatoes and rice at various meals to up my carb intake.

Health supps: multi, apple cider vinegar, fish oils (diet needs to be HIGH in omega 3's), superfood powder goes in my morning shake, also drink about 8oz a day of cranberry juice concentrate, the expensive stuff that is sold in bottles and is sour as fuck. This isn't for my kidneys, it's for my LIVER (stole this from John Meadows.)

Cardio daily

Stay lean/light as possible while sticking to your goals

Bloodwork every few months. Blood pressure checks 1-2x a week.

Healthy as a horse  8)

Do you do anything specific with the apple cider vinegar?

Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 20, 2014, 11:21:52 PM
Do you do anything specific with the apple cider vinegar?



Mix A few TBSP in water and drink a few times a day. If I'm short on time I just take a few pulls straight from the bottle. I actually like the taste, Esp if I've been dieting (I know, weird.)

ACV is amazing for you.

Make sure to use raw ACV though, such as Bragg's

Oh and I'll make my own homemade Kombucha with ACV too. Super easy cheap and delicious.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 20, 2014, 11:24:32 PM
Would the cardio even matter if I added in more calories to cancel it out?  I really want to grow.

Yes, absolutely.  It's not for losing fat, but for exercising your cardiovascular system.  You train all the other muscles , right?  So why neglect your heart muscle?

It'll do a lot for your health.... maybe the most important thing you could do
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 11:27:31 PM
Mix A few TBSP in water and drink a few times a day. If I'm short on time I just take a few pulls straight from the bottle. I actually like the taste, Esp if I've been dieting (I know, weird.)

ACV is amazing for you.

Make sure to use raw ACV though, such as Bragg's

Oh and I'll make my own homemade Kombucha with ACV too. Super easy cheap and delicious.

Sounds good, I love ACV but didn't really realize it was so good for you.

Is the bloodwork a juicer thing, or should everyone be doing that?

I wikid Kombucha, it looks good interesting... lol
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 20, 2014, 11:32:28 PM
Sounds good, I love ACV but didn't really realize it was so good for you.

Is the bloodwork a juicer thing, or should everyone be doing that?

My opinion: every juicer, no matter what, a few times a year.

But also good if your an actual bidybuilder, natty or not. By this I mean you're pounding the supps and high protein. BW is cheap, and the information you get is invaluable. I would say once a year or so if you're natty and competing.

Yes ACV is phenomenal for you. As your body metabolizes it and it goes through the Kreb's cycle it converts into massive alkalinizing metabolites. This is only one benefit. It has a ton of great health benefits.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 20, 2014, 11:35:03 PM
My opinion: every juicer, no matter what, a few times a year.

But also good if your an actual bidybuilder, natty or not. By this I mean you're pounding the supps and high protein. BW is cheap, and the information you get is invaluable. I would say once a year or so if you're natty and competing.

Okay, thanks for the advice big guy
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 20, 2014, 11:35:46 PM
Okay, thanks for the advice big guy

Thanks for being you Big Roger F Neegars  8)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: BAST on February 20, 2014, 11:40:12 PM

Make sure to use raw ACV though, such as Bragg's


why what's the diff?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 20, 2014, 11:46:06 PM
Some food for thought...

This is what I currently do:

Basically a paleo diet with added sweet potatoes and rice at various meals to up my carb intake.

Health supps: multi, apple cider vinegar, fish oils (diet needs to be HIGH in omega 3's), superfood powder goes in my morning shake, also drink about 8oz a day of cranberry juice concentrate, the expensive stuff that is sold in bottles and is sour as fuck. This isn't for my kidneys, it's for my LIVER (stole this from John Meadows.)

Cardio daily

Stay lean/light as possible while sticking to your goals

Bloodwork every few months. Blood pressure checks 1-2x a week.

Healthy as a horse  8)

Cool....this is what I was looking for.   My diet could be better (I'll usually eat a dirty meal every few days...especially since my gains have stalled out).  The rest of the time it's pretty straight though.  I aim for 450g protein, 800g of carbs, and let the fats come from my beef, eggs, and the butter and coconut oil I cook with.  BTW, I'm 312 at the moment so I know it sounds like a lot but I'm thinking I need more to get things moving again.  My carbs are all rice, oats, potatoes, fruits, and dextrose/maltodextein around training.

I can easily add in the supps you recommend and if the blood pressure doesn't come down then I'll talk with my doc about it next month when I go for bloods.

Still not sure about the cardio...yes, im holding some heavy bloat and extra fat right now, but I don't want to sacrifice gains.  I'll be heavy on cardio from September on when I prep, but right now it seems like taking a step back.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: almard on February 20, 2014, 11:51:01 PM
Some food for thought...

This is what I currently do:

Basically a paleo diet with added sweet potatoes and rice at various meals to up my carb intake.

Health supps: multi, apple cider vinegar, fish oils (diet needs to be HIGH in omega 3's), superfood powder goes in my morning shake, also drink about 8oz a day of cranberry juice concentrate, the expensive stuff that is sold in bottles and is sour as fuck. This isn't for my kidneys, it's for my LIVER (stole this from John Meadows.)

Cardio daily

Stay lean/light as possible while sticking to your goals

Bloodwork every few months. Blood pressure checks 1-2x a week.

Healthy as a horse  8)



Sounds like plan?

Can you talk about your AAS doses? Kind ?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: calfzilla on February 20, 2014, 11:55:09 PM
Why not just go natural?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: calfzilla on February 20, 2014, 11:57:50 PM
Mix A few TBSP in water and drink a few times a day. If I'm short on time I just take a few pulls straight from the bottle. I actually like the taste, Esp if I've been dieting (I know, weird.)

ACV is amazing for you.

Make sure to use raw ACV though, such as Bragg's

Oh and I'll make my own homemade Kombucha with ACV too. Super easy cheap and delicious.

Would love to be your apple cider vinegar.


On a more serious not, should you only take the liquid?  What about pills?  And can it be mixed with your protein shake?  Bump for more health benefits of acv.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: BAST on February 20, 2014, 11:58:27 PM
post a picture
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 21, 2014, 12:00:10 AM
Would love to be your apple cider vinegar.

ROFL
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: BAST on February 21, 2014, 12:00:52 AM
Bump for more health benefits of acv.

People claim it does a million things.   I find it helps my digestion, if i have a cold it clears sinuses a bit, boosts energy a bit.  Peppers give similar benefits.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 21, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
Let's hurry up and discuss the benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar while Adonis isn't online.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 21, 2014, 12:33:26 AM
Why not just go natural?

Because "naturally" my test levels were at 47. 

And because I love my juice!
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 21, 2014, 12:38:19 AM
post a picture

I'll try to get one tomorrow....the last one on my phone was around 280. 
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 21, 2014, 12:46:12 AM
Some food for thought...

This is what I currently do:

Basically a paleo diet with added sweet potatoes and rice at various meals to up my carb intake.

Health supps: multi, apple cider vinegar, fish oils (diet needs to be HIGH in omega 3's), superfood powder goes in my morning shake, also drink about 8oz a day of cranberry juice concentrate, the expensive stuff that is sold in bottles and is sour as fuck. This isn't for my kidneys, it's for my LIVER (stole this from John Meadows.)

Cardio daily

Stay lean/light as possible while sticking to your goals

Bloodwork every few months. Blood pressure checks 1-2x a week.

Healthy as a horse  8)

Also, do take all these in the a.m. or throughout the day?

And what about donating blood?  I read thats important if you stay on all the time.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 21, 2014, 06:19:09 AM
Yes ACV is phenomenal for you. As your body metabolizes it and it goes through the Kreb's cycle it converts into massive alkalinizing metabolites. This is only one benefit. It has a ton of great health benefits.

Uhhhhh what?  Please elaborate more on this statement
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 07:01:04 AM
why what's the diff?

Anytime you pasteurize something, you are denaturing beneficial enzymes and nutrients in it. ACV isn't known for allowing plentiful harmful bacterial growth so you're safe using it raw.

Raw ACV contains pectin which is a natural PREbiotic which binds to toxins and waste in your system.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 07:04:50 AM


Sounds like plan?

Can you talk about your AAS doses? Kind ?

Never gone over 750mgs a week ever. I'm a low doser for life. Not trying to go pro or anything, so there's absolutely no need for me since I respond well to low doses. Test + nandrolone 1:1 around 300mgs each (doctor prescribed :) ) is my magic formula.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 07:21:32 AM
Would love to be your apple cider vinegar.


On a more serious not, should you only take the liquid?  What about pills?  And can it be mixed with your protein shake?  Bump for more health benefits of acv.

 ;D

The pills are going to be more processed so you're no doubt losing some of the prebiotic and enzyme properties compared to the raw liquid. But Im sure it would still have a positive effect, even though I personally believe the alkalinization should come primarily from your diet as much as possible.

I do know if ACV pills accidentally get stuck in your throat It will burn a hole right through you, so beware.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 07:23:16 AM
Also, do take all these in the a.m. or throughout the day?

And what about donating blood?  I read thats important if you stay on all the time.

Just get them in bro! I take some supps in the am some at night. Doesn't matter I don't think, just get them in.

Dumping blood is indicated if your hematocrit is high, which you can only know if you get blood work done. If you're blasting some big doses I'm fairly certain your hematocrit is going to be high bro.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 07:32:13 AM
Uhhhhh what?  Please elaborate more on this statement

Its been a few years since my Biochem classes but I know step 1 of Kreb's takes acetic acid (ACV) through the process. Also via lowering of "gut acidity" will have an alk effect.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 08:24:48 AM
Duh....I'm a diabetic dwarf....what other reasoner would a getbigger take it for?
I mean I get it if a pro uses it, it's his job to be huge. But I mean, taking potentially lethal drugs to look good in the mirror
or at the gym
really?
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 21, 2014, 08:31:35 AM
Its been a few years since my Biochem classes but I know step 1 of Kreb's takes acetic acid (ACV) through the process. Also via lowering of "gut acidity" will have an alk effect.

Yes, this makes sense physiologically.....but the Krebs cycle thing I can't really imagine based off what I know (it's been a while since I've taken a look at it myself)
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
Yes, this makes sense physiologically.....but the Krebs cycle thing I can't really imagine based off what I know (it's been a while since I've taken a look at it myself)

Been awhile myself but I remember the doc I had for BC2 in grad school breaking it down for us. I should have payed closed attention so I could explain better but what I remember is acetic acid = good stuff
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 21, 2014, 09:32:57 AM
Been awhile myself but I remember the doc I had for BC2 in grad school breaking it down for us. I should have payed closed attention so I could explain better but what I remember is acetic acid = good stuff

If you remember or manage to dig it up, please post it...I've never heard that and i would love to learn more about it
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 21, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
Let's hurry up and discuss the benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar while Adonis isn't online.
;D
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 21, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
Just get them in bro! I take some supps in the am some at night. Doesn't matter I don't think, just get them in.

Dumping blood is indicated if your hematocrit is high, which you can only know if you get blood work done. If you're blasting some big doses I'm fairly certain your hematocrit is going to be high bro.

HCT and HBG are normal after 4 week cruise...but I have no idea what they are while blasting.  I guess it couldn't hurt anything to give the blood.

Hitting Vitamin Shoppe now to load up on these supps.

Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: steamboatwillie on February 21, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
I mean I get it if a pro uses it, it's his job to be huge. But I mean, taking potentially lethal drugs to look good in the mirror
or at the gym
really?

Not a pro, but I do wanna win some plastic trophies.  These drugs are safe comparatively speaking...I mean I have a better chance of dying in a crash on the way to the gym (or driving an hour home after a 14 hour night shift) than I do taking a little slin.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 04:24:29 PM
Not a pro, but I do wanna win some plastic trophies.  These drugs are safe comparatively speaking...I mean I have a better chance of dying in a crash on the way to the gym (or driving an hour home after a 14 hour night shift) than I do taking a little slin.
yeah that's what all the guys with broken kidneys said
but hey man, I hope nothing does happen
always good to see someone still willing to go the distance in this dying sport
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 21, 2014, 05:19:37 PM
yeah that's what all the guys with broken kidneys said
but hey man, I hope nothing does happen
always good to see someone still willing to go the distance in this dying sport

Not being a dick but this is a bodybuilding site bro. Maybe the wrong forum to lecture this guy about the dangers of AAS. This guy understands the risks and is trying to go about in a somewhat safe/responsible way.
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Icelord on February 21, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
Not being a dick but this is a bodybuilding site bro. Maybe the wrong forum to lecture this guy about the dangers of AAS. This guy understands the risks and is trying to go about in a somewhat safe/responsible way.
You're not being a dick but you're responding to something I never said
I said why does he need slin and GH
never said a word about AAS
where'd you get that from
Title: Re: General Health Regimine....
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 22, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
You're not being a dick but you're responding to something I never said
I said why does he need slin and GH
never said a word about AAS
where'd you get that from

Point still stands bro. You're lecturing him on what PEDs hes using.