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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Skorp1o on February 24, 2014, 02:39:43 AM
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I picked out the below entities, and illustrated their performance over the past 5 years, these are picked purely as they form part of our veryday lives and everyone is familair with them, we all have a Visa in our wallet, order from Amazon, use Microsoft products and/or Apple, we are consumers, we contribute to their profits and their wealth...yet we could easily become direct beneficiaries of their success, rather than just being the gullible cash cows.
5 Year performance:
-Visa Inc (V) +301.29%
-Amazon In (AMZN) +443%
-Microsoft (MSFT) +111%
-Apple (AAPL) +475%
-GE (GE) +165.88%
-Master C Inc (MA) +379.11%
Amazon Inc, second best above, if you had bought $25,000 of its shares 5 years ago instead of spending it on a car for example , your holding would be worth $110,750 today.
Off the top of my head I struggled to think of 5 big international corps which have dropped 100% or 200% or 300% in the past 5 years to even out the above, off course we have all the big Banks post credit crunch, BP post spill...etc but this is not in the last 5 years cut off.
Now I'll sit back and wait for the "poor man's mentality" Getbigger to rip me a new one ::)
ps:this is bobybuilding related as more surplus income means more spare money for GH and Insulin.
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The fact you think the past 5 years is normal is hilarious! So what stocks have retraced to their previous values after the fed has tried everything to make investors move into risk assets like stocks.
The s&P 500 is up well over 100% in the past 5 years. You could sat passively in an index fund and doubled your money.
It isnt rocket sciene. Stocks fell 50-almost 100% then they retrace back after the fed lowers interest rates to almost negative yields on short bonds.
I love your a stock market wizardry in reverse. Its like choosing lotto numbers after they already draw the numbers on tv. You win all the time.
the past 5 years were a once in a life time buying opportunity. ALl investors who expect great returns like that in the future are gonna be sorely disappointed due to being unable to replicate the returns of that time period, will turn to alcohol, and ultimately suicide.
this kinda further proves how deluded and stupid you are.
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skorpio you have a follower.
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Duh, which is why he said you 'could' have made x amount of profit if you'd have invested in these companies 5 years ago.
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Duh, which is why he said you 'could' have made x amount of profit if you'd have invested in these companies 5 years ago.
which is obviously pointless to say?
IN the 1950 ya coulda made bank investing in KODAK!!!
what great insight !
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which is obviously pointless to say?
IN the 1950 ya coulda made bank investing in KODAK!!!
what great insight !
Yes it is great insight.
Before reading this thread, I wouldn't have had a clue, so it was a decent post.
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Just invest in hemp stocks.
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Yes it is great insight.
Before reading this thread, I wouldn't have had a clue, so it was a decent post.
then you must be retarded. Stay away from stocks.
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lol at the ability to look in the past and think "what if" That is a loser mentality. Tell me what's going to happen in the next 5 years and be correct and maybe you'll get a little respect.
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hemp stocks general materials,esp if theres colorado based companies
then, whatever weaponry and vehicles the us army is ordering, make sure congress and budget have given the ok on that.this is moraly questionable, but who cares.
rothschild private bank stocks have seen 600% increase in some period over 5or 10years i think, but also a followup decrease.
and see facebook would have been a good idea,theyre smart,they inflate their worth by buying up companies.but who knows whenn this will come to an end.
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then you must be retarded. Stay away from stocks.
I suggest you wind your scrawny little neck in dickfan.
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lol at the ability to look in the past and think "what if" That is a loser mentality. Tell me what's going to happen in the next 5 years and be correct and maybe you'll get a little respect.
LOL you sir are in the heavy weight division of retards.
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LOL you sir are in the heavy weight division of retards.
Skorp, you seem to have massively let down those who were expecting prophetic powers in this thread lol
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then you must be retarded. Stay away from stocks.
Judging from the agressive and irrational anti-stock approach you keep spouting, you are so far the biggest retard on this thread. Just like the past 5 years, over the next 5 years there will be winners and there will losers in the stock market, a combination of good judgement and luck on you side willd determine which side your holding will be on.
If you had a conservative view backed with substantiated facts, I would respect you more.
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"If history were all there was to the game, the richest people in the world would be librarians."
- Warren Buffett
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Skorp, you seem to have massively let down those who were expecting prophetic powers in this thread lol
Tell me about it ;D
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"If history were all there was to the game, the richest people in the world would be librarians."
- Warren Buffett
Poor man's mentality right here above ^
There's always an excuse for everything, and I heard it all mate, so please stop googling them and while I am at it here's one for you: "whats the quickest way to make 1 million on the stock markets? start with 2 million..." and so on and so forth.
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Poor man's mentality right here above ^
There's always an excuse for everything.
You're right. Warren Buffett could use some shoring up in the income department. Why not give him a call today and let him know your thoughts on the issue at hand?
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skorpio, have you read florian homms book?
why not something like he did, ofc at the end he went too far and will forever stay in prison in convicted, but at the beginning he got away with many semi legal stunts.
just got too greedy.
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Poor man's mentality right here above ^
There's always an excuse for everything.
Skorp, I know i'm going to sound like a complete pauper here lol but if I started trading with only £1k, is it feasible to get that to £5k after buying/selling fees etc if I bought correctly?
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Skorp, I know i'm going to sound like a complete pauper here lol but if I started trading with only £1k, is it feasible to get that to £5k after buying/selling fees etc if I bought correctly?
A 500% return is extremely rare, even for an insider dealings job unless its a small cap/AIM listed company, they can do a 10 bagger easily at the back of a positive annoucement. But I never invest in AIM as its way too volatile for me.
This return would need someone very savvy and very lucky at the same time to do so. Short selling on 1k will not be a good idea due to the usual trade fee around 10/12£ and then the spread, will swallow any decent returns. So your only option is medium to long term. I aim for 20% return per annum, so far 3 years in a trott I have smashed it, but I am investing in big companies which in my eyes have weathered the storm and are looking up ahead. But the economy and markets can be unpredictable, so for me I am taking it one week/month/year at a time.
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skorpio, have you read florian homms book?
why not something like he did, ofc at the end he went too far and will forever stay in prison in convicted, but at the beginning he got away with many semi legal stunts.
just got too greedy.
Florian Homms? no, but till take a look as I am ready to start reading a new book and have personal interest in Financial Markets. If I ever did open my own brokerage it will be 100% legit and hopefully successful.
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Florian Homms? no, but till take a look as I am ready to start reading a new book and have personal interest in Financial Markets. If I ever did open my own brokerage it will be 100% legit and hopefully successful.
yeah read it, after all he was a hedge fund manager.
theres plenty info, how to look at companies worth depending on where they are(theres differences bc tax reasons etc), and esp , ways to make stock prices go the way you want them to go.
when i read that, i realized how much a ruthless and random business this can be, the stock market.
he is a very smart guy, youll see what i mean.
i was shocked however with what is considered legal in this.
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LOL you sir are in the heavy weight division of retards.
::)
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Yes, there's a lot of stock manipulation which can go on, but the regualtors are quite savvy on this now, but I am sure some people still push the boundaries.
I know of someone who usess aliases which mimick those of big well known millionaires, so he buys a stock early in the morning in his name. Then he palces a massive order in the alias name, this lead to stock market anticipating rumours or build up of positive sentiments towards a share price, he sells his true holding with a profit then cancels the big order in the alias name. Comes out with a good margin on top for doing nothing. When you talk about big money here it makes a difference i.e. 5% to 15% of 1million, doing this several times a day day in and day out....they rake it in.
And there's so many other tricks, but people do go to jail for this. Insider dealing is a big one and still goes on, the best and biggest don't get caught, I think they only manage to see the tip of the iceberg.
Will defo pick that book up, thanks for the heads up.
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Off the top of my head I struggled to think of 5 big international corps which have dropped 100% or 200% or 300% in the past 5 years to even out the above, off course we have all the big Banks post credit crunch, BP post spill...etc but this is not in the last 5 years cut off.[/size]
Lol wut? A 100% drop in value would mean that theres no value left.....
And also, your examples of advanced hindsights are as useful as imagining that you would have bought a winning lottery ticket.
Sure Amazon is a great company but with a P/E of 590, come on...
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the past 5 years were a once in a life time buying opportunity. ALl investors who expect great returns like that in the future are gonna be sorely disappointed due to being unable to replicate the returns of that time period, will turn to alcohol, and ultimately suicide.
this kinda further proves how deluded and stupid you are.
I really don't know why your butt-hole hurts everyt time I post something simple.
Analysts in big hedge-funds get it right and wrong day and day out, there are winners and losers day in and day out, if you look at any of the above, you will find posted analysts opinions on each one, varrying from strong buy to hold to sell, some predict under performance, some out-performance....etc you're spouting illogical non-sense.
If I listened to people like you I would have put the proceeds of my house sale 3 years ago under my pillow and watch it wither away by inflation. VAT alone was bumped by 2.5% post credit crunch.
There's winners and theres losers I chose my path, I have a property I live in and one which I am renting out ready to be paid off for my retirement, I have an employers pension and the surplus of my income I put it into shares I am comfortable with. If you have better advice for me I would genuinely be happy to hear it as I am keen on retiring as early as I can.
Please respond with your advice
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I have ESFitness handle my finances, no complaints yet
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If sperm was a commodity, its fair to assume that Skorp1o's anus would be a sound investment.
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Lol wut? A 100% drop in value would mean that theres no value left.....
And also, your examples of advanced hindsights are as useful as imagining that you would have bought a winning lottery ticket.
Sure Amazon is a great company but with a P/E of 590, come on...
If I bought a shares at $5 each, and it dropped to $2.50...I would need a 100% rise to recover my losses.
If I bought a share for $6 and it droped to $2 I would need a 300% return to recover my losses.
If i am not holding in a company I don't give a rats ass if it burned down, If I am holding in a company 50%loss means shit me, as the only way I can recover my losses is if the stock I am holding doubles (100%) from its value today, which is a much bigger challenge. It seems like I am talking to people who have never bought a share in their life and come on here opening their mouths.
I'm getting tired of spoon feeding idiots ::)
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Yes, there's a lot of stock manipulation which can go on, but the regualtors are quite savvy on this now, but I am sure some people still push the boundaries.
I know of someone who usess aliases which mimick those of big well known millionaires, so he buys a stock early in the morning in his name. Then he palces a massive order in the alias name, this lead to stock market anticipating rumours or build up of positive sentiments towards a share price, he sells his true holding with a profit then cancels the big order in the alias name. Comes out with a good margin on top for doing nothing. When you talk about big money here it makes a difference i.e. 5% to 15% of 1million, doing this several times a day day in and day out....they rake it in.
And there's so many other tricks, but people do go to jail for this. Insider dealing is a big one and still goes on, the best and biggest don't get caught, I think they only manage to see the tip of the iceberg.
Will defo pick that book up, thanks for the heads up.
nah bro, homm guy had much more distinguished stuff ;D
things were i dont see how regulators could do anthing about it,even after the effect.only change of law could.
btw i see alot of pointless jealousy here.
sure stockmarket made many ppl lse money, but skorpio has a good run and is a london city boy.this is the eurpean banking elite,plain and simple.
hes not a high school toothless chav dropout, hes an educated man.
all the tpoics on this matter on getbig i remember have been saying simpleton daft things like "Buy low seel high"no shit ,columbo
i actulay see some similiarlty to mr homm with skorpio,they know where to look for info.
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If sperm was a commodity, its fair to assume that Skorp1o's anus would be a sound investment.
My anus is not listed in the stock market. and if it did, I bet my ass (pun intended) it would float.
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nah bro, homm guy had much more distinguished stuff ;D
things were i dont see how regulators could do anthing about it,even after the effect.only change of law could.
btw i see alot of pointless jealousy here.
sure stockmarket made many ppl lse money, but skorpio has a good run and is a london city boy.this is the eurpean banking elite,plain and simple.
hes not a high school toothless chav dropout, hes an educated man.
all the tpoics on this matter on getbig i remember have been saying simpleton daft things like "Buy low seel high"no shit ,columbo
i actulay see some similiarlty to mr homm with skorpio,they know where to look for info.
LOL @ toothless chavs ;D
Is this the book Gal?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rogue-Financier-Adventures-Estranged-Capitalist-ebook/dp/B00A9T1JKC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393256562&sr=8-2&keywords=florian+homms
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LOL @ toothless chavs ;D
Is this the book Gal?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rogue-Financier-Adventures-Estranged-Capitalist-ebook/dp/B00A9T1JKC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393256562&sr=8-2&keywords=florian+homms
yes thats the one.
youll see, quite the getbigger mentality he has.
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If I bought a shares at $5 each, and it dropped to $2.50...I would need a 100% rise to recover my losses.
If I bought a share for $6 and it droped to $2 I would need a 300% return to recover my losses.
I'm getting tired of spoon feeding idiots ::)
Yes, but that's not what you wrote...
And your new "rationale" would, as I understand it, be totally redundant given the fact that it's based on the numbers presented in your first post (because why would you compare the growth of another, not titled, company with the ones you've presented - in the context we're discussing right now).
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Yes, but that's not what you wrote...
And your new "rationale" would, as I understand it, be totally redundant given the fact that it's based on the numbers presented in your first post (because why would you compare the growth of another, not titled, company with the ones you've presented - in the context we're discussing right now).
Please don't tell me you are this stupid in real life
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Please don't tell me you are this stupid in real life
I really am. 8)
I'm sorry but your posts make no sense to me, not semantically nor purposefully.
No need to spoon feed me though.
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As of now, I would buy into companies that deal with oil and energy. Manufacturers of parts, distribution and production of fracking components and drilling.
Hell, even companies that transport oil via trucking will see a huge chunk of business coming their way.
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As of now, I would buy into companies that deal with oil and energy. Manufacturers of parts, distribution and production of fracking components and drilling.
Hell, even companies that transport oil via trucking will see a huge chunk of business coming their way.
Good point, although It's always a good idea to diversify, even when I am besotted with an industry, diversifying has saved my profolio from the odd crash. As simple as "eggs in one basket"
On another note, depsite all the economic issues, taking a step back one can see that the population is not decreasing, it is doing the opposite and at fast rate, the need for energy, goods, financial services...etc is only going to increase. Post credit-crunch luxury goods actually saw a massive rise in demand...who would have thought? Internet based companies are still growing, emerging markets are still catching up and with it opening new opportunities and untapped consumer potential, the new emerging chinese middle class are buying half of Londons new build apartments cash outpricing the locals....there's always cycles and there's always short to medium term volatility and as times evolve some industries will be redundant, but those who know where the waves are and where the low tides are can move their money accordingly.
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Skorp1o my main critique of your thought process isnt that stocks are for fools. Infact I think equities are the best way for the average person to increase their personal cash flow.
The disturbing part about your posts is that you are always backward looking. IN your other post you talk about investing in Berkshire in the 70's, in this one you talk about investing in few s&P 500 companies after a once in a generation stock market crash. Your posts scream out ignorance of average traditional returns. Which is , historically, around 10% for the s&p 500. To get greater returns you must be an astute stock picker.
In all your diatribes and useless rambling you never even mention methods of stock picking. These types of discussions are much more important than picking random stocks and saying "WOW LOOK U COULD HAVE BEEN A MILLIONAIRE IF ONLY!!" Do you practice fundamental analysis or technical? If you are a fundie guy what methods of valuation do you use? If you are techie chart patterns or indicators do you use?
Just judging by your posts about stocks in general you sound like the dude at a cocktail party who just found out about stocks. Its cute and slightly amusing but you offer nothing. You share no stocks you currently hold or you say nothing about your method of stock picking.
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Just judging by your posts about stocks in general you sound like the dude at a cocktail party who just found out about stocks. Its cute and slightly amusing but you offer nothing. You share no stocks you currently hold or you say nothing about your method of stock picking.
Bang on target pal.
I doubt Mr S uses FA or TA, he seems to rely on his superior "analytical" ability and going back in time.
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ive sat back and watched this thread expand.
its funny,
im actually jordan belfort.
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In all your diatribes and useless rambling you never even mention methods of stock picking. These types of discussions are much more important than picking random stocks and saying "WOW LOOK U COULD HAVE BEEN A MILLIONAIRE IF ONLY!!" Do you practice fundamental analysis or technical? If you are a fundie guy what methods of valuation do you use? If you are techie chart patterns or indicators do you use?
Just judging by your posts about stocks in general you sound like the dude at a cocktail party who just found out about stocks. Its cute and slightly amusing but you offer nothing. You share no stocks you currently hold or you say nothing about your method of stock picking.
Always backward looking lmao ;D
Ok, here's what I just found, AAPL are going up by 75.4% 19 months from now lol google...do you realise how stupid this sounds? go and do research on any business you will find tons of info based on past director dealings, past accounts, charts for the past 10 years, ratings, all of which is past information apart from analysts forecasts.
You almost started this post with a normal argument, then you moved on to personal attacks, you do not have a problem with what I post, you have a problem with me for some reason. But you're not the first nor the last on an internet board.
I mentionned in previous posts that I worked in the City since the age of 23, I am now 35 years old. Ive done it all and seen it all, from CFD's to futures, bonds and even dabble in secondary market mainly in high yield, so by all means no, I don't think Im a newbie and I don't hang out with cocktails in my hand, and I never talk about work when I am out.
I personally like big large firms with strong prospects, less volatility whom I study and watch for a long time on a daily basis and read their quarterly reports, evaluate their debts and liabilities and profit margins and sometimes that gives me an idea as to what I to expect from them and daily news feeds and stay up to date with Analysts sentiments. Like I said before I work in the City and can honestly say that just about every big invetsment firm we have here, I have an analyst at the end of a fone line I can talk to. I am a contrarian by nature, when people are fleeing I take a close look and jump in and that's where I made most of my profits. I am familiar with just about every valuation model there is DDM, DCF...etc. You sound like someone who was sold software to trade when there is no need to do so.
You're one of those blithering idiots that wants an answer in the format you want and see in your head, you sound like some broke middle aged bitter man who bit burned badly and this bitterness you're trying to offload on me...the only thing that's gona get offloaded here is a bucket of spunk on your face courtesy of my good self.
I post about past performance, because future performance data is not available you moron. You are acting as if I said..."Here's Amazon, buy now sell in 5 years at +400%", you are attacking me using a very basic rational that everyone knows about invetsments...past perofrmance is not an indication of future gains. You may lose all of your capital...etc.
I am providing people with food for thought, not a decision ready made on a plate, if you don't like it, do go fuck off somewhere else. Everything I post is fact, I used to waste my money on parties every weekend and holidays and since taking this on serioulsy it has changed my life, and this is a fact whether you like it or not, if you have better advice me, go ahead, if not then shut your mouth.
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Bang on target pal.
I doubt Mr S uses FA or TA, he seems to rely on his superior "analytical" ability and going back in time.
I buy stock mostly for holding onto for a minimum of 5 years, all types of fundamental analysis are strongly disputed as stock market prices are essentially unpredictable. Fundamental and Techincal Analysis is more relevant to commodities and precious metals, for service providers ask anyone, it is not the best tool to apply, furthermore such assessments might give you some data which might be useful for the next 12 months....but for a contrarian investor buying into an industry struggling and in the process of overcoming hardships i.e. reducing debts, tooxic assets, liabilities in combination with a positive (personal opinion) on economic outlook in 5 years time being better now...etc I am an economist by nature, it is not just the business that needs to be reviwed.
Im glad you found someone tom tag along with though, wel done.
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I buy stock mostly for holding onto for a minimum of 5 years, all types of fundamental analysis are strongly disputed as stock market prices are essentially unpredictable. Fundamental and Techincal Analysis is more relevant to commodities and precious metals, for service providers ask anyone, it is not the best tool to apply, furthermore such assessments might give you some data which might be useful for the next 12 months....but for a contrarian investor buying into an industry struggling and in the process of overcoming hardships i.e. reducing debts, tooxic assets, liabilities in combination with a positive (personal opinion) on economic outlook in 5 years time being better now...etc I am an economist by nature, it is not just the business that needs to be reviwed.
Im glad you found someone tom tag along with though, wel done.
Dude, you're just spewing nonsense now.
What you're essentially saying is that you buy crap companies that no one else wants to buy without looking at any financial statements (struggling companies, contrarian investing, disputing fundamental analysis). Good luck with that.
And just for the record, as you were questioning it in a previous post, - yes I've bought shares, I do it every month (50-65% of my salary).
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Dude, you're just spewing nonsense now.
What you're essentially saying is that you buy crap companies that no one else wants to buy without looking at any financial statements (struggling companies, contrarian investing, disputing fundamental analysis). Good luck with that.
And just for the record, as you were questioning it in a previous post, - yes I've bought shares, I do it every month.
Or where we go another baseless dissmissal....how fucking easy is that? is that best come back you can come up with?
You're a moron, I look at quartely reports and half yearly results I don't even wait for the main financials to come out. I work in the industry everything I need is a click away ::)
You think I am gona put 25% of my holding into one company and just sit there and come back 5 years later?
Im going in circles here entertaining idiots who know fuck all about anything let alone stocks investing, google some crap and come here challenging me, a guy who ahcieved nothing less than 22% PA in every single firm I put my money in the last 3 years and worked in the industry for 11/12 years, I challenge you to achieve half as well results. Pick a fight with someone your size before you get emotionally hurt :P
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Dude, you're just spewing nonsense now.
What you're essentially saying is that you buy crap companies that no one else wants to buy without looking at any financial statements (struggling companies, contrarian investing, disputing fundamental analysis). Good luck with that.
And just for the record, as you were questioning it in a previous post, - yes I've bought shares, I do it every month.
hes just a contrarian investor who does zero homework or fundamental research. Just calls up his buddies in their London office an asks for tips.
But dont worry cause he still known multiple methods of valuation like DCF. Just completely useless when analyzing shit companies with toxic assets.
I think its becoming more and more apparent this man doesn't really know what the hell hes talking about. He uses examples of VISA, AMAZON, BERKSHIRE. He says he likes to invest in " large firms with strong prospects". Then he says he likes to invest in "industry(ies) struggling and in the process of overcoming hardships i.e. reducing debts, tooxic assets, liabilities".
SO which is it lol? You are clearly confused yourself and have no clear and transparent investment approach.
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Or where we go another baseless dissmissal....how fucking easy is that? is that best come back you can come up with?
Yu're a moron, I look at quartely reports and half yearly results I don't even wait for the main financials to come out. I work in the industry everything I need is a click away ::)
Click away lol...you act like getting quarterly data is hard...Its called the SEC website which rational american investor is very familiar with.
you might impress a classroom full of highschoolers but not anyone who even casually watches financial news.
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hes just a contrarian investor who does zero homework or fundamental research. Just calls up his buddies in their London office an asks for tips.
But dont worry cause he still known multiple methods of valuation like DCF. Just completely useless when analyzing shit companies with toxic assets.
I think its becoming more and more apparent this man doesn't really know what the hell hes talking about. He uses examples of VISA, AMAZON, BERKSHIRE. He says he likes to invest in " large firms with strong prospects". Then he says he likes to invest in "industry(ies) struggling and in the process of overcoming hardships i.e. reducing debts, tooxic assets, liabilities".
SO which is it lol? You are clearly confused yourself and have no clear and transparent investment approach.
Yes I invest in firms with strong prospect, I would never invest ina firm with weak prospects, prospect depicts the future, not the current situation, unlike you I talk from personal examples. In this instance I can use Lloyds Banking, a company currently still working through its restructing, the new Banker running Horta Osario one of the best in the industry is doing a stirling job and I was buying at 30p and now it sits at 82p....a fine example of a big Bank with great prospects going through restructing, I have a few like these and then put my money in safer higher paying dividend companies like the ones I posted before.
Does your tiny little brain comprehend now? Or shall I form my sentences in a dildo format so you can sit on it. Cos you can't seem to be able to retain anything just like a big gaping anal hole.
If you go and do a full analysis by yourself on companies where 95% of the data is readily available for you to read and digest no wonder you've done so badly. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PRODUCE DETAILED RESEARCH ON COMPANIES....THAT'S WHAT ANALYSTS DO. you just need to have the intelligence to study it, financials are another matter, but my best predictions have been at theback of economic patterns combined with good business strategy, fianncials mean shit if a company has the wrong strategy and is heading the wrong way...I predicted this about Nokia a long time ago and more recently Blackberry, its people like you who get fooled into investments.
You and onion and the other guys are just haters, pure and simple.
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Click away lol...you act like getting quarterly data is hard...Its called the SEC website which rational american investor is very familiar with.
you might impress a classroom full of highschoolers but not anyone who even casually watches financial news.
I have Bloomberg you morron, I don't look at the SEC website, I am in the UK in London....do you not get this? I have a trading key broard and 6 screens on my desk but that's not for equities its for High Yield Bonds thats what I do...and guess what, I don;t reseach these companies......we have analysts that do that, I just buy and sell. Shall I tell my boss he's doing wrong? shall I tell him pissant the wizard thinks the fact that we quadrupled our proficts in the last 3 years is all bollocks?
But going back in circles, primary market equity trading is not rocket science so stop trying to make it out to be so you can sound intelligent. Im getting bored of your gimmicks and trolling, you need to spice it up a bit more :D Im enjoying seeing how stupid and bitter some people are
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Or where we go another baseless dissmissal....how fucking easy is that? is that best come back you can come up with?
You're a moron, I look at quartely reports and half yearly results I don't even wait for the main financials to come out. I work in the industry everything I need is a click away ::)
You think I am gona put 25% of my holding into one company and just sit there and come back 5 years later?
Im going in circles here entertaining idiots who know fuck all about anything let alone stocks investing, google some crap and come here challenging me, a guy who ahcieved nothing less than 22% PA in every single firm I put my money in the last 3 years and worked in the industry for 11/12 years, I challenge you to achieve half as well results. Pick a fight with someone your size before you get emotionally hurt :P
What are you talking about? You make absolutely no sense and contradict yourself all the time.
You use terms without knowing what they mean and your "reasoning" doesn't have any logic to it at all. I think it's you who need to google some things. You could start with fundamental / quantitative analysis as you obviously don't know what it is.
I really can't take anything you write as serious after this.
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I really can't take anything you write as serious after this.
Thank fuck for that ;D I thought you took me dead serious before
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hes just a contrarian investor who does zero homework or fundamental research. Just calls up his buddies in their London office an asks for tips.
But dont worry cause he still known multiple methods of valuation like DCF. Just completely useless when analyzing shit companies with toxic assets.
I think its becoming more and more apparent this man doesn't really know what the hell hes talking about. He uses examples of VISA, AMAZON, BERKSHIRE. He says he likes to invest in " large firms with strong prospects". Then he says he likes to invest in "industry(ies) struggling and in the process of overcoming hardships i.e. reducing debts, tooxic assets, liabilities".
Yeah, something is way off with this guy. Nothing makes sense and everything is contradicting.
The only part I like about his strategy is time travelling.
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Thank fuck for that ;D I thought you took me dead serious before
I'm very confused right now. ;D
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Onion and Pissant talk as if you can predict the market, that's the funniest shit ever.
The only time a valuation worked in my favour was with Royal Mail, everyone knew it though fromt the get go and we all made a bucket load of money at the back of it, if you invest regularly then you would no that valuations and investor sentiment are not parallel.
I am yet to see one real life example from you Onion or Pissant to back up what you say, Ive done nothing but give example after example of companies I am persoanlly invested in which did very well at the back of my 10 minute review and a few conversations with people lol.
The fact that you can;t name a single stock tells me that you two are broke as crack heads and just spew on here cos you can't bear the thought of a guy doing alright for himself.
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Yeah, something is way off with this guy. Nothing makes sense and everything is contradicting.
The only part I like about his strategy is time travelling.
You missed the part about me making over 150% profit in Lloyds Banking within two years ;D...you chose to read what you want and ignore the facts which might hurt your little bum hole. ;D
You missed the fact that I sold Royal Mail within days making over 25%...and I can go and go on...whereas you, a hot air balloon.
I could go on and on...but arguying with someone who doesn;t invest probably cos he cant afford to invest is seriously entertaining.
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It's hilarious how people brag about making money in stocks and equate it to how smart they are.
There are some very dumb, naïve, ignorant people posting on GetBig.
Keep on living you young mongoloids.
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I've been investing nearly 20 years with my own $, and nearly a decade with others' $.
The small investor makes money by the power of compounding, investing wisely in a diversified portfolio of quality investments over time, and being patient.
If you have the time and aptitude to dig in deep and find your own investments and not let fear, greed, and ego get in the way, perhaps you can learn to do your own. If you don't have the time, aptitude, and emotional makeup to do this, you're better off investing with a professional.
When picking your own individual investments, it's all about being forward-looking. Since no one can predict the future, you'd better really learn to know what the hell you're doing and not think you're so smart that you're never going to be wrong. Because you will be wrong sometimes. Diversify and learn to manage risk.
If you do it long enough the right way, you'll turn a few bucks into many over time. But you won't beat the market EVERY year, no matter how good you are. Nor will you never have a losing year if you do it long enough. You won't average 50% or more a year if you do it very long, and it's highly unlikely you'll make triple digits in any given year. Not even the very best average mid double digits over time.
And good luck if you decide to "day trade" - most figured out 15 or more years ago that it's too risky and too expensive. Even if you can trade for as little as $2 a trade on average, you do 3 trades a day for a year, you've spent a good $1500. Not a big deal if you have 6 or 7 figures to invest, but if you've only got $30k, that's 5% right off the top. And those big funds like DE Shaw and Jim Simons' fund Renaissance that use those automated HF trading systems these days will probably eat you alive pretty quickly.
Go to 2:40 here and listen to what the fund manager says about human traders:
I'm skeptical about his track record though. He'd need to show me proof that he's never had a losing month before I'd give him any $.
If you wisely choose to invest with a professional or to spread your $ among several money managers (or both), them having a track record of success is very important. Preferably a long track record. Would you listen to some "guru" on a BB forum regurgitating info from some 1990's day trading books & seminars who cannot provide you a track record of success going back decades or even a few years? Or would you rather read up on and and listen to Soros, Icahn, Buffett, Lynch, Berkowitz, Yactman, Bruce, Paulson, Einhorn, et al?
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You missed the part about me making over 150% profit in Lloyds Banking within two years ;D...you chose to read what you want and ignore the facts which might hurt your little bum hole. ;D
You missed the fact that I sold Royal Mail within days making over 25%...and I can go and go on...whereas you, a hot air balloon.
I could go on and on...but arguying with someone who doesn;t invest probably cos he cant afford to invest is seriously entertaining.
Prove yourself - I don't believe for a second that you made those gains. I am in the financial industry and have done quite well - you are a silly lil "inter-knucklehead" and your frustration in real life causes you to share your delusions with the cyber-world.
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It's hilarious how people brag about making money in stocks and equate it to how smart they are.
There are some very dumb, naïve, ignorant people posting on GetBig.
Keep on living you young mongoloids.
It's not about being smart, stocks are not everyones cup of tea, but the truth of the matter is, everyone working a normal job will end up border line broke at best when they retire unless they have invested their money wisely, be it a pension or a property or business ventures...etc some chose to build a an investment portfolio.
Naïve and dumb are the ones doing nothing.
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I've been investing nearly 20 years with my own $, and nearly a decade with others' $.
The small investor makes money by the power of compounding, investing wisely in a diversified portfolio of quality investments over time, and being patient.
If you have the time and aptitude to dig in deep and find your own investments and not let fear, greed, and ego get in the way, perhaps you can learn to do your own. If you don't have the time, aptitude, and emotional makeup to do this, you're better off investing with a professional.
When picking your own individual investments, it's all about being forward-looking. Since no one can predict the future, you'd better really learn to know what the hell you're doing and not think you're so smart that you're never going to be wrong. Because you will be wrong sometimes. Diversify and learn to manage risk.
If you do it long enough the right way, you'll turn a few bucks into many over time. But you won't beat the market EVERY year, no matter how good you are. Nor will you never have a losing year if you do it long enough. You won't average 50% or more a year if you do it very long, and it's highly unlikely you'll make triple digits in any given year. Not even the very best average mid double digits over time.
And good luck if you decide to "day trade" - most figured out 15 or more years ago that it's too risky and too expensive. Even if you can trade for as little as $2 a trade on average, you do 3 trades a day for a year, you've spent a good $1500. Not a big deal if you have 6 or 7 figures to invest, but if you've only got $30k, that's 5% right off the top. And those big funds like DE Shaw and Jim Simons' fund Renaissance that use those automated HF trading systems these days will probably eat you alive pretty quickly.
Go to 2:40 here and listen to what the fund manager says about human traders:
I'm skeptical about his track record though. He'd need to show me proof that he's never had a losing month before I'd give him any $.
If you wisely choose to invest with a professional or to spread your $ among several money managers (or both), them having a track record of success is very important. Preferably a long track record. Would you listen to some "guru" on a BB forum regurgitating info from some 1990's day trading books & seminars who cannot provide you a track record of success going back decades or even a few years? Or would you rather read up on and and listen to Soros, Icahn, Buffett, Lynch, Berkowitz, Yactman, Bruce, Paulson, Einhorn, et al?
Solid well balanced post and straight to the point.