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Would I care? Oh hell no.
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what is this thread about?
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what is this thread about?
smokin' pole.
and genius marketing.
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was looking for Aston's for a client. pre owned db9's run about $70k. they sound sexy as hell, but I'd still rather pick up a pre owned 911 turbo or 911 carerra 4s for 1/2 the price.
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was looking for Aston's for a client. pre owned db9's run about $70k. they sound sexy as hell, but I'd still rather pick up a pre owned 911 turbo or 911 carerra 4s for 1/2 the price.
we have similar tastes in luxury items for most part.
but I have to disagree!
the only Porsche I would currently own is a panamera.
douchey cars, I did race 911 turbo once in my old gto. I hate to say it but my 30k car but the fucking jammy to it reaaaal quick. Almost no contest.
the shriner in the 911 didnt recover
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does she even squat?
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we have similar tastes in luxury items for most part.
but I have to disagree!
the only Porsche I would currently own is a panamera.
douchey cars, I did race 911 turbo once in my old gto. I hate to say it but my 30k car but the fucking jammy to it reaaaal quick. Almost no contest.
the shriner in the 911 didnt recover
I did all my racing when I was younger on both the street and track (SCCA) so I don't care much about going fast, but the 911 has a 'look/prestige' to it still, plus it handles great and feels solid on the street... plus the maintenance is freakin great. I used to hate porsches as road cars when I was younger (porsches are what I raced), but they've grown on me over the years.
I'd say until my income is near a million a year I'd say the ideal garage is an 09 S550, 09 Escalade, 01/02 911 Turbo... over a mil, the S550 get's swapped for an S65 and the 911 get's swapped for an Aston Vanquish or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (got kids, so I need a backseat, even if it's small)
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does she even squat?
I think the correct answer to this conundrum is : who gives a fuck! Great legs. Its so attractive when a woman "has it" with out having to work for it.
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I did all my racing when I was younger on both the street and track (SCCA) so I don't care much about going fast, but the 911 has a 'look/prestige' to it still, plus it handles great and feels solid on the street... plus the maintenance is freakin great. I used to hate porsches as road cars when I was younger (porsches are what I raced), but they've grown on me over the years.
I'd say until my income is near a million a year I'd say the ideal garage is an 09 S550, 09 Escalade, 01/02 911 Turbo... over a mil, the S550 get's swapped for an S65 and the 911 get's swapped for an Aston Vanquish or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (got kids, so I need a backseat, even if it's small)
have you seen the big things jaguar has been up to?
holy shit!
they have stepped their game up immensely.
I would trade that benz for the new xfr-s. Jesus
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this is a copy of an ad that BMW used a few years back
but BMW's was less risque
surprise BMW isnt suing AM
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For me .. dream would be buying a ferrari....
of course a used 1 ..also maybe a lambo....
The repairs are just super expensive ..
They weren't meant as daily drivers due to the wear & tear..
2009 C6 corvette is affordable .. buying tires for about $2,100.00
oil change about $150.00
brakes with new calipers.. about $600.00 to $800.00
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This Aston Martin ad was fake (and AM got really pissed about it). BMW's was real though.
(http://www.aston-martin.com/files/2013/02/bmw-ad.jpg)
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have you seen the big things jaguar has been up to?
holy shit!
they have stepped their game up immensely.
I would trade that benz for the new xfr-s. Jesus
Yes! I used to think jaguars looked like a more expensive Buick. Hated them. Now they have a new one that is sexy as helllll....looks like a Tesla. Dont remember the name of it, though
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/11/2014-jaguar-xfrs27-opt.jpg)
Not a huge fan of the wheels, but those are easily changed.
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have you seen the big things jaguar has been up to?
holy shit!
they have stepped their game up immensely.
I would trade that benz for the new xfr-s. Jesus
yea, couple of my clients have new jag's. they're not bad looking, but in the back of my mind I'm still thinking it's the 'british car that tries to look like an aston' or something.. I could never bring myself to buy one. it's hard for me to consider buying a british car... give me a $1m/year income and I'd still have to be convinced... Aston's are sexy, but I think I'd still pick up the 612 Ferrari (neither being great with yearly maintenance expense).
I've never driven an Aston though, so until I get behind the wheel it's a tough call. I love the Ferrari's though, especially with aftermarket exhausts Tubi or the "valve" exhausts just freakin howl.
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For me .. dream would be buying a ferrari....
of course a used 1 ..also maybe a lambo....
The repairs are just super expensive ..
They weren't meant as daily drivers due to the wear & tear..
2009 C6 corvette is affordable .. buying tires for about $2,100.00
oil change about $150.00
brakes with new calipers.. about $600.00 to $800.00
my point was 911's were more affordable. can easily be had for the cost of a vette and they have more 'prestige' or however you describe it ('pussy magnet/panty dropper' effect or something)... most ppl will see a 911 and think 'wow... a Porsche, that guy must have some money' and not realize you can get them for $35-40k... and cost of maintaining them isn't far from a vette, if not cheaper.
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Lol the new jags are a tremendous step down from the old x-types, etc.
Taste of peace ::)
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Imma scoot around on one of these
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what is this thread about?
Dennis Wolf.
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Lol the new jags are a tremendous step down from the old x-types, etc.
Taste of peace ::)
Yeah, maybe if you wanna ball hard at the retirement home and drive something that looks like a Buick
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Lol the new jags are a tremendous step down from the old x-types, etc.
Taste of peace ::)
x type is a piece of shit.
lol @ step down.
good job buying a ford Taurus with a Jaguar badge and an extra $15k on the sticker and an engine/tranny that failed in 50k miles in 90% of the cars
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I don't see why anyone would ever consider a Jag. There is a far superior car in every class it competes in.
Even the F Type. Completely outclassed in every way by the significantly cheaper Corvette C7 Z51. Hell, the new Z06 next year will barely be more expensive than a full loaded F type probably and absolutely DEMOLISH it.
An Aston though. God, nothing is classier than a DB9
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x type is a piece of shit.
lol @ step down.
good job buying a ford Taurus with a Jaguar badge and an extra $15k on the sticker and an engine/tranny that failed in 50k miles in 90% of the cars
growing up my mom had a 98 xj8 or something like that. Terrible piece of shit. Decent looking enough for the time, but huge piece of shit mechanically.
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This Aston Martin ad was fake (and AM got really pissed about it). BMW's was real though.
(http://www.aston-martin.com/files/2013/02/bmw-ad.jpg)
This ;)
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if you drown, smother or mutilate all of her previous lovers, then technically, you are still her first.
I think that's how it works?
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Would I care? Oh hell no.
If there was ever an ad that would sell a product......that would be the one!!!!
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I prefer my renault laguna II , its the v6 that gets me the girls and the stylish copholder. Ferraris dont have copholders so its a no buy from me
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I prefer my renault laguna II , its the v6 that gets me the girls and the stylish copholder. Ferraris dont have copholders so its a no buy from me
I pictured you as more of a Citroen DS kind of guy...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/1974_Citroen_DS23_Pallas.jpg/796px-1974_Citroen_DS23_Pallas.jpg)
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I pictured you as more of a Citroen DS kind of guy...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/1974_Citroen_DS23_Pallas.jpg/796px-1974_Citroen_DS23_Pallas.jpg)
dude i wish i had one...always liked them. Esp the sport version of ds they build with maserati (that citroen owned at the time) citroen sm with the v6.
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dude i wish i had one...always liked them. Esp the sport version of ds they build with maserati (that citroen owned at the time) citroen sm with the v6.
There are tons of cool modified ones, I like them too!!
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There are tons of cool modified ones, I like them too!!
to bad a drunk burt reynolds had to dump one in the river after a car chase just because a fucking bitch called the cops on him in the longest yard >:(
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I did all my racing when I was younger on both the street and track (SCCA) so I don't care much about going fast, but the 911 has a 'look/prestige' to it still, plus it handles great and feels solid on the street... plus the maintenance is freakin great. I used to hate porsches as road cars when I was younger (porsches are what I raced), but they've grown on me over the years.
I'd say until my income is near a million a year I'd say the ideal garage is an 09 S550, 09 Escalade, 01/02 911 Turbo... over a mil, the S550 get's swapped for an S65 and the 911 get's swapped for an Aston Vanquish or Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (got kids, so I need a backseat, even if it's small)
I don't like turbo track cars much prefer NA high revving so GT3 for me all day 8)
I tracked BMW's e36 and e90's M3 for fun at Willow springs , not much now since I have a range rover supercharged as a daily
If money was no object on the top of my head I would have
GT3 RS
458 speciale
E46 M3 CSL
C63 AMG black series
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The new jag is desigNed by the same guy who did Aston Martin hence the resemblance. To the guy who Sid there are better cars, bullshit. It won 47 international awards and every car review says it is out of this world. Jeremy Clarkson even said it was as good as an Aston, it's a fraction of the price though.
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The new jag is desigNed by the same guy who did Aston Martin hence the resemblance. To the guy who Sid there are better cars, bullshit. It won 47 international awards and every car review says it is out of this world. Jeremy Clarkson even said it was as good as an Aston, it's a fraction of the price though.
Ian Callum is the designer
Can't stand Jeremy clarkson , much prefer Chris Harris on reviewing cars he is much better
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I hate used car, unless I can afford a classic. New leather smell is the only way for me. Would you use a used condom on that girl? that's my motto 8)
Plus I only lease nowadays, thinking of going back on beemers after, a grown up new series 5 or something similar.
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I don't like turbo track cars much prefer NA high revving so GT3 for me all day 8)
I tracked BMW's e36 and e90's M3 for fun at Willow springs , not much now since I have a range rover supercharged as a daily
If money was no object on the top of my head I would have
GT3 RS
458 speciale
E46 M3 CSL
C63 AMG black series
I'm more of a NA guy as well, but around here the 911 turbo's are cheaper than the 911 Carrera 4s's.... and I need rear seats, so a GT3 isn't an option. lol... plus the gt3 is too harsh and I'm getting too old for driving a gt3. lol so i'll take a C4S all day.
I do love the 458, but if money were no object, give me an F12! haha... and an S65... and a GL63 for the Misses. haha... of course an Escalade as well.. I still need a truck/suv and I haven't found an suv with the size and comfort the escalade has.. not the GL or a Porsche cayenne.. and I have serious doubts about driving a range rover.
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I hate used car, unless I can afford a classic. New leather smell is the only way for me. Would you use a used condom on that girl? that's my motto 8)
Plus I only lease nowadays, the dividends and surplus on some things I have on the side pays for it.
even a car with 10K miles is wayyyyy below book value.
a car isn't an investment... buying a car, you have to ask yourself "how much money am I willing to lose?"
buy a 2014 S550 and sell it in two years and lose $40k.. but a 2010 S550 and sell it in two years and lose $8k
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even a car with 10K miles is wayyyyy below book value.
a car isn't an investment... buying a car, you have to ask yourself "how much money am I willing to lose?"
buy a 2014 S550 and sell it in two years and lose $40k.. but a 2010 S550 and sell it in two years and lose $8k
Good points you raise, and this is the reason I would never pay cash for a car or get finance for it. But for me if my investment dividends do ok and if my tenant doesn't complaint about something breaking I have an unexpected cash surplus as Im invested in for capital growth, so the surplus pays for the car lease costs. This way in mind I still get to drive a decent car but don't feel stupid but taking a massive hit on depreciation.
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I'm more of a NA guy as well, but around here the 911 turbo's are cheaper than the 911 Carrera 4s's.... and I need rear seats, so a GT3 isn't an option. lol... plus the gt3 is too harsh and I'm getting too old for driving a gt3. lol so i'll take a C4S all day.
I do love the 458, but if money were no object, give me an F12! haha... and an S65... and a GL63 for the Misses. haha... of course an Escalade as well.. I still need a truck/suv and I haven't found an suv with the size and comfort the escalade has.. not the GL or a Porsche cayenne.. and I have serious doubts about driving a range rover.
I agree. The turbo 911's esp 996's are cheap prob cause the 996's were considered "undesirable" and many porsche enthusiasts don't that variant models unlike the 997's. imo I love both the 996 and 997 and the turbo versions are a steal for the 2001-2005 years , pretty reliable and very fast
For SUV besides the rover I like the X5 and GL550 and AMG variant but X5 in size is nothing compared to escalade if that's important.
I want to like the caddy but it has the whole "hip hop" "rappers" appeal that's a turn off to me imo ;D
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to bad a drunk burt reynolds had to dump one in the river after a car chase just because a fucking bitch called the cops on him in the longest yard >:(
haha, I've seen that ;D
Clark Griswold wedged one between those pillars in European Vacation running from those angry Germans. ;D
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haha, I've seen that ;D
Clark Griswold wedged one between those pillars in European Vacation running from those angry Germans. ;D
lol good old clark..forgot about that scene =D
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I agree. The turbo 911's esp 996's are cheap prob cause the 996's were considered "undesirable" and many porsche enthusiasts don't that variant models unlike the 997's. imo I love both the 996 and 997 and the turbo versions are a steal for the 2001-2005 years , pretty reliable and very fast
For SUV besides the rover I like the X5 and GL550 and AMG variant but X5 in size is nothing compared to escalade if that's important.
I want to like the caddy but it has the whole "hip hop" "rappers" appeal that's a turn off to me imo ;D
that was my turnoff as well, but after comparing the caddy's interior to the Tahoe, Yukon and suburban, I couldn't say 'no'... so long as you don't put 24in rims and lower it or something, you tend to forget about the whole "hiphop yo yo yo son" rep it has. plus they're cheaper than a qx56. lol
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anyone using jeremy clarksons opinion on anything as a justifier needs to have a word. seriously- gobshite of the lowest order.
as for a jag looking like a British version of an Aston- rem the Aston is British chaps. Cars are one thing we lead the world in. Bentley, Rolls, Aston are all beautiful.
as if the mythical Vauxhall Nova SR. ahem.
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anyone using jeremy clarksons opinion on anything as a justifier needs to have a word. seriously- gobshite of the lowest order.
as for a jag looking like a British version of an Aston- rem the Aston is British chaps. Cars are one thing we lead the world in. Bentley, Rolls, Aston are all beautiful.
as if the mythical Vauxhall Nova SR. ahem.
what?
lol.. in terms of oppulance and 'image'? maybe... but not driveablity and technological advances.
S65.. hell, an S600 runs circles around a Bentley continental, as does an CL around a Bentley GT.
a phantom or mulsanne? has nothing to be compared to except each other
reliability of a british car? hahaha.
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anyone using jeremy clarksons opinion on anything as a justifier needs to have a word. seriously- gobshite of the lowest order.
as for a jag looking like a British version of an Aston- rem the Aston is British chaps. Cars are one thing we lead the world in. Bentley, Rolls, Aston are all beautiful.
as if the mythical Vauxhall Nova SR. ahem.
Funny Germans own Bentley, Rolls and Mini ;D
Jag and Land Rover are owned by Indians
Germans made your cars more reliable and better in quality and they actually start lol
I agree with u on clarkson though
Chris Harris as I stated is the shit!!
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forget who owns them
where are rolls made?
any fucker can have a poxy merc. but they are council house compared to a roller.
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dude i wish i had one...always liked them. Esp the sport version of ds they build with maserati (that citroen owned at the time) citroen sm with the v6.
The citroen SM with the Maserati engine was just amazing when it came around 1970.
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forget who owns them
where are rolls made?
any fucker can have a poxy merc. but they are council house compared to a roller.
Lets see....
A rolls runs on a 7 series chassis which is built by BMW = GERMAN
A rolls engine is built and engineered with a BMW V12 = GERMAN
GERMAN > British ;D
This is coming from me that owns a ranger rover sport btw
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Would I care? Oh hell no.
I just saw this a few days ago...genius!!!
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I don't like turbo track cars much prefer NA high revving so GT3 for me all day 8)
I tracked BMW's e36 and e90's M3 for fun at Willow springs , not much now since I have a range rover supercharged as a daily
If money was no object on the top of my head I would have
GT3 RS
458 speciale
E46 M3 CSL
C63 AMG black series
I've politely asked you to stop reading my mind.
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I've politely asked you to stop reading my mind.
;D
Which one would u choose out of those 4 is the tough one?
Hmmm....
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;D
Which one would u choose out of those 4 is the tough one?
Hmmm....
458 Speciale, because it's special. Plus, it means that the 458's replacement is just around the corner.
Although, the c63 AMG makes a good case for itself.
The CSL has radio/AC delete, and you can't put anything in the trunk and the tires...you can't drive that thing in the rain. The GT3 has fire issues.
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Lets see....
A rolls runs on a 7 series chassis which is built by BMW = GERMAN
A rolls engine is built and engineered with a BMW V12 = GERMAN
GERMAN > British ;D
This is coming from me that owns a ranger rover sport btw
going to bed last night I was thinking the same damn thing, but was too lazy to post it. lol
ghost is a 7 series
Bentley is a Volkswagon
then again, the Italians have a lot of german engineering as well now days.... not saying that's a bad thing, however.
if I had to pick one and only one car, it'd be either an S63 or S65.
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;D
Which one would u choose out of those 4 is the tough one?
Hmmm....
ideally? the Ferrari, no doubt... assuming I had other regular daily drivers.
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going to bed last night I was thinking the same damn thing, but was too lazy to post it. lol
ghost is a 7 series
Bentley is a Volkswagon
then again, the Italians have a lot of german engineering as well now days.... not saying that's a bad thing, however.
if I had to pick one and only one car, it'd be either an S63 or S65.
X2
My dad has the S63 as his daily, the bi turbo one just when they switched over from the 6.2 motor
Being a huge porsche fan myself I'll go with the Ferrari 458 as well
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Would I care? Oh hell no.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=521474.0;attach=556957;image)
(http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/aF/esq-sean-connery-tuxedo-bond-0711-lg.jpg)
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USED Aston Martins? This is getbig, everyones getting one of these for just over 4 million bucks
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/pix/slideshow/03-2013/lamborghini-veneno-the/6-veneno-0600313.jpg)
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For the price of a used Aston Martin or used 911 you can buy a new C7 with full warranty, new-car smell, the exact options and colours you want, etc.
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my point was 911's were more affordable. can easily be had for the cost of a vette and they have more 'prestige' or however you describe it ('pussy magnet/panty dropper' effect or something)... most ppl will see a 911 and think 'wow... a Porsche, that guy must have some money' and not realize you can get them for $35-40k... and cost of maintaining them isn't far from a vette, if not cheaper.
To be fair most peopl would think the exact same if someone's driving even a Porsche boxter or Cayman. Most people don't know the difference, sometimes I even have trouble telling them apart.
Why should status or a badge matter? One thing I like about the Corvette is that by driving one you're showing that you don't give a fukc about status, you could have bought among many Euro status-cars for the same price but didn't care for that prestige and instead just wanted a bad-ass car that'll perform and look great. It shows a sense of humility.
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I don't see why anyone would ever consider a Jag. There is a far superior car in every class it competes in.
Even the F Type. Completely outclassed in every way by the significantly cheaper Corvette C7 Z51. Hell, the new Z06 next year will barely be more expensive than a full loaded F type probably and absolutely DEMOLISH it.
An Aston though. God, nothing is classier than a DB9
Your post is music to my ears :)
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Your post is music to my ears :)
beautiful car man.
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beautiful car man.
Thanks man!
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Thanks man!
I love vettes.
I almost picked up a c6 when I was car shopping.
I ended up getting a another car with an ls3 instead.
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Would I care? Oh hell no.
this Ad will never be on US television......why?
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I love vettes.
I almost picked up a c6 when I was car shopping.
I ended up getting a another car with an ls3 instead.
We have similar taste!
When I was a teen I stumbled across the first C5 that I saw in person and immediately fell in love and decided "I want one someday." When I got my first car out of school, I couldn't afford a vette so I got what I felt was the next best thing - a 4th generation Trans Am. A few years ago I was thinking of getting a C6 as my first Vette, but decided to wait because I knew the C7 was around the corner. I was literally checking google almost daily for spy photos, new renderings, etc. for over a year before the C7 was revealed. I decided that I would buy it well before the reveal, regardless of how it looked. Never test drove one either or even sat in any Corvette of any year. That passion has made me attached towards pretty much all Chevies and GM's. A few people have posted what their garage would be if money was no object, honestly mine would still be a Corvette (okay a Z06 instead of a Stingray lol) and a loaded Silverado for the winter.
Which LS3 did you get?
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I've politely asked you to stop reading my mind.
if money is no object, I'd have the Gullwing Black series parked in my driveway....I'm cuckoo for coco puff over this beast.....I have not seen one in the street yet....maybe when I go down to Fort Lauderdale for spring break, I might get lucky and see one at a red light
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Just sayin
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Just sayin
Asking the owner if u can sit in it and snap a pic doesn't count :D
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we have similar tastes in luxury items for most part.
but I have to disagree!
the only Porsche I would currently own is a panamera.
douchey cars, I did race 911 turbo once in my old gto. I hate to say it but my 30k car but the fucking jammy to it reaaaal quick. Almost no contest.
the shriner in the 911 didnt recover
hm man not sure the new turbo does 0-60mph in 3seconds flat.
they are fast as hell as they come from the showroom, the 60mph to 120mph is about as fierce as a 600cc sportsbike.
i dont see a gto doing that without hefty mods, and not on streettires, the porsche is awd.
motor trend ran the quartermile with the turbo in 10.9seconds.this is crazy crazy quick.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/11/2014-jaguar-xfrs27-opt.jpg)
Not a huge fan of the wheels, but those are easily changed.
lol ifd keep the wheels and exchange the CAR ;D
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Hate the Panamera
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hm man not sure the new turbo does 0-60mph in 3seconds flat.
they are fast as hell as they come from the showroom, the 60mph to 120mph is about as fierce as a 600cc sportsbike.
i dont see a gto doing that without hefty mods, and not on streettires, the porsche is awd.
motor trend ran the quartermile with the turbo in 10.9seconds.this is crazy crazy quick.
this was back in like 2009.
the porshe might have been older.
my gto was a stock block ls2, long tubes, vararam and tune only. ran 12.6 at sea level on a cool day. also got just shy of 26 mpg
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if money is no object, I'd have the Gullwing Black series parked in my driveway....I'm cuckoo for coco puff over this beast.....I have not seen one in the street yet....maybe when I go down to Fort Lauderdale for spring break, I might get lucky and see one at a red light
beautiful car...and the sound is the business.
I have this thing for the new Viper...an all Black T/A Viper. It just looks sinister and sexy at the same time.
Also a black Jag F-Type R Coupe. Granted, it doesn't perform as well as the Vette due to it's weight (like it was made from granite), but it aesthetically looks better, and it's engine note sounds a lot better.
What I really want to see is a comparison of the BMW M4 coupe versus a 2015 Ford Mustang GT (they benchmarked the e92 M3 coupe) or GT350. If that Ford puts up a good fight, or even comes out on top...man, American cars have truly made a comeback.
Also, I want to see what the Cadillac ATS-V does as well.
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does she even squat?
hopefully she would on my face
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hm man not sure the new turbo does 0-60mph in 3seconds flat.
they are fast as hell as they come from the showroom, the 60mph to 120mph is about as fierce as a 600cc sportsbike.
i dont see a gto doing that without hefty mods, and not on streettires, the porsche is awd.
motor trend ran the quartermile with the turbo in 10.9seconds.this is crazy crazy quick.
WTF i don't really care about cars but those are all insane numbers
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WTF i don't really care about cars but those are all insane numbers
yeah its crazy,the acceleration pull is insane.
awd makes sure no traction isues, it feels faster than 600cc bike no doubt.
i porsche really tried yeah even the 2008 woukd run high 11
on the street, street tires, its the ruler of all.
maybe nissan gtr comes close but not as good launch control.
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yeah its crazy,the acceleration pull is insane.
awd makes sure no traction isues, it feels faster than 600cc bike no doubt.
i porsche really tried yeah even the 2008 woukd run high 11
on the street, street tires, its the ruler of all.
maybe nissan gtr comes close but not as good launch control.
I remember being a little upset when they stopped making their cars air-cooled, but this definitely makes up for it 8)
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yeah its crazy,the acceleration pull is insane.
awd makes sure no traction isues, it feels faster than 600cc bike no doubt.
i porsche really tried yeah even the 2008 woukd run high 11
on the street, street tires, its the ruler of all.
maybe nissan gtr comes close but not as good launch control.
AWD is great for drag racing, but comparing, say the 2015 Z06 from 60-150 versus a Porsche Turbo I'd be very surprised if the Porsche pulls on it. It might in a 1/4 mile - and even that would be very debatable since the new Z06 now has the A8 option which takes care of torque management issues that the C6 ZR1 had (and despite those issues it was still an 11.1 second car on stock tires in the 1/4 mile), the new Z06 auto will definitely be in the 10's with stock tires.
Similarly, the heavy GTR can not compete with a ZR1 or C7 Z06 off of a roll, even slower 60-150 than the C6 Z06 that has a 40 horsepower deficit compared to the GTR (as per Car and Driver's test)
An example is how many of the mags show comparable 0-60 and 1/4 mile times between the Porsche 911S and the C7 Stingray, yet a video on youtube by a European mag which shows both cars punching it off of a roll (I believe about 50 mph but I'd have to double check) showed the Stingray was much faster than the Porsche.
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AWD is great for drag racing, but comparing, say the 2015 Z06 from 60-150 versus a Porsche Turbo I'd be very surprised if the Porsche pulls on it. It might in a 1/4 mile - and even that would be very debatable since the new Z06 now has the A8 option which takes care of torque management issues that the C6 ZR1 had (and despite those issues it was still an 11.1 second car on stock tires in the 1/4 mile), the new Z06 auto will definitely be in the 10's with stock tires.
Similarly, the heavy GTR can not compete with a ZR1 or C7 Z06 off of a roll, even slower 60-150 than the C6 Z06 that has a 40 horsepower deficit compared to the GTR (as per Car and Driver's test)
An example is how many of the mags show comparable 0-60 and 1/4 mile times between the Porsche 911S and the C7 Stingray, yet a video on youtube by a European mag which shows both cars punching it off of a roll (I believe about 50 mph but I'd have to double check) showed the Stingray was much faster than the Porsche.
Ok, we get it, you own a corvette ::)
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Ok, we get it, you own a corvette ::)
I can't say I was expecting an intelligent reply from you based on your earlier post below here:
WTF i don't really care about cars but those are all insane numbers
You proved my expectations correct lol.
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haha bigboob stop it 10sec qm on streettires
of a roll eh that happens so often off a 60mph roll.and i wouldfnt be suprised if the porsche wins that anyway.
we dont have the expected times, expected times are useless.
but lets use the c6 z06, the new one wont run that much better.
btw just checking the new c7, the one you have loses 0-120mph vs the regular carrera lol.
it gets blown away even from a roll., keep that in mind.
the prosche runs 10.4 o-124mph.
the zr1(!!) runs 10.3 0-124mph.
so there i dont think the new z06 will outrun the the old zr1, therefore, wont outrun a bone stock porsche either.
another time for the zr1 i found is 11.4 ouch ,must be those street tires you talking about,the ones which the new vette will run 10second et ;D
here i found, c6z06 runs it in 11.9.
you do the math.
i suggest strongly you stop daydreaming.
no matter, you can decuct the 0-60times and the turbo still blows the vette away.
reasons, awd, perfect gearbox, usa cars can only fream of that technology, lets be honest.
and the nissan gtr,i hate the car, but you aware it doesnt lose pull uptop, it turns rwd at higher speeds.
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I remember being a little upset when they stopped making their cars air-cooled, but this definitely makes up for it 8)
The Porsche 911 is probably the only car that you can own of any vintage, and you could say "that guy knows his shit." Whether it be a 67 911 Classic or a 930 Turbo, or the 964 or 993s, any and almost all vintages have that cool enthusiast factor.
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AWD is great for drag racing, but comparing, say the 2015 Z06 from 60-150 versus a Porsche Turbo I'd be very surprised if the Porsche pulls on it. It might in a 1/4 mile - and even that would be very debatable since the new Z06 now has the A8 option which takes care of torque management issues that the C6 ZR1 had (and despite those issues it was still an 11.1 second car on stock tires in the 1/4 mile), the new Z06 auto will definitely be in the 10's with stock tires.
Similarly, the heavy GTR can not compete with a ZR1 or C7 Z06 off of a roll, even slower 60-150 than the C6 Z06 that has a 40 horsepower deficit compared to the GTR (as per Car and Driver's test)
An example is how many of the mags show comparable 0-60 and 1/4 mile times between the Porsche 911S and the C7 Stingray, yet a video on youtube by a European mag which shows both cars punching it off of a roll (I believe about 50 mph but I'd have to double check) showed the Stingray was much faster than the Porsche.
gotta requote this bc its so funny ;D
"id be suprised"well,there you go :D
a8 option?torque management?are you seriouse?
are you aware, that the torque management will affect 0-60times for the worse?
all those never again reproduceable times on pre heated worn down "stock" tires the usa mags do are done with TM turned off.
they use every trick in the book and a freaking professional racer to get those times.
regular guy would run mid 12 in old z06.
torque management, lol, please, the turbo, with computer launch, off the line, spins all 4 tires quickly,even in summer heat,seen it myself, and then boom, its gone like off a catapult.
well you look at trap speed and you know whih one is gonna pull away at higher speeds,easy as.
but until 120mph youre looking at the porsches rear pipes.
if you can see them after the usual launch fiasco.
in the real world, any moron can launch an awd like a pro, while rwd an amateur will be blown away by such turds like evo 7 with a computer managment upgrade,i seen it too many times.
corevtte is good for the money,but lets keep it realistic
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I'll take a classic pre owned 1960's Aston Martin and a classic "pre owned", high mileage 1960's blond.
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wheres bobboob? heating up stock tires? ;D
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I guess the one I pulled a few years back must of been from the early 2000's.
There might of even been a chance that the porshe owner just rebadged a 911 n/a or something.
I will say, the fastest car I have ever been in was a twin turbo LSX gto that ran a 10 flat. The guy owned a shop and did the build himself.
It was unreal, the difference between a 450 hp high 12 second car a 650 hp low ten second car is night and day. Its what I would imagine being inside of a fighter jet taking off.
It makes your eyes fucking suck in.
Its a joke to build something like that though, I think it cost him around 25 grand to build. Not including the price of the car, and it wasnt worth fuck all in comparison to the money it took to build.
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I can't say I was expecting an intelligent reply from you based on your earlier post below here:
You proved my expectations correct lol.
I'm surprised you expected a response at all.
It's pretty obvious youre trying to shoehorn your shiny new car into a thread about luxury cars, but Vettes are a dime-a-dozen. Who cares, let us know when you get something impressive
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I guess the one I pulled a few years back must of been from the early 2000's.
There might of even been a chance that the porshe owner just rebadged a 911 n/a or something.
I will say, the fastest car I have ever been in was a twin turbo LSX gto that ran a 10 flat. The guy owned a shop and did the build himself.
It was unreal, the difference between a 450 hp high 12 second car a 650 hp low ten second car is night and day. Its what I would imagine being inside of a fighter jet taking off.
It makes your eyes fucking suck in.
Its a joke to build something like that though, I think it cost him around 25 grand to build. Not including the price of the car, and it wasnt worth fuck all in comparison to the money it took to build.
yah, can just buy any 1000cc sportbike of this millenium and run high 9s at 140mph+
this feels like a rocket launch, a bike gets 1g in straight acceleration all the way till 120mph,its insane, its unbelieveable until you been on one lol.
itd be more than 1g traight line acceleration, but the front wheel lifts off at 1g.or rear tire slips, but on bikes the front will lift typicaly.
1g acceleration is feeling of freefall, put that into the mind,its literaly undesctibable.like freefall forward.
a typical m3 vs such a bike ,lol, its not even remotely fair.
to get an idea how bad it is, heres modified zr1,700 hp.
vs bike, its modified only by 10hp
race happens at 3minutes mark
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I'm surprised you expected a response at all.
It's pretty obvious youre trying to shoehorn your shiny new car into a thread about luxury cars, but Vettes are a dime-a-dozen. Who cares, let us know when you get something impressive
yah ppl here say, when they see someone bought a vette, they say" ah i see, the money wasnt enough to aford a porsche" ;D
btw, in the video above , at 4m20s, until there the bike plays around with the car and then boom.
the translation from there on is "no chance in hell,no chance at all"
cars are endless moneypits, would never get one for the speed,any random bike will smoke you so bad its not even funny.
to me, this puts doing bolt on mods to cars in a rather laughable perspective.
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haha bigboob stop it 10sec qm on streettires
of a roll eh that happens so often off a 60mph roll.and i wouldfnt be suprised if the porsche wins that anyway.
we dont have the expected times, expected times are useless.
but lets use the c6 z06, the new one wont run that much better.
btw just checking the new c7, the one you have loses 0-120mph vs the regular carrera lol.
it gets blown away even from a roll., keep that in mind.
the prosche runs 10.4 o-124mph.
the zr1(!!) runs 10.3 0-124mph.
so there i dont think the new z06 will outrun the the old zr1, therefore, wont outrun a bone stock porsche either.
another time for the zr1 i found is 11.4 ouch ,must be those street tires you talking about,the ones which the new vette will run 10second et Grin
here i found, c6z06 runs it in 11.9.
you do the math.
i suggest strongly you stop daydreaming.
no matter, you can decuct the 0-60times and the turbo still blows the vette away.
reasons, awd, perfect gearbox, usa cars can only fream of that technology, lets be honest.
and the nissan gtr,i hate the car, but you aware it doesnt lose pull uptop, it turns rwd at higher speeds
gotta requote this bc its so funny ;D
"id be suprised"well,there you go :D
a8 option?torque management?are you seriouse?
are you aware, that the torque management will affect 0-60times for the worse?
all those never again reproduceable times on pre heated worn down "stock" tires the usa mags do are done with TM turned off.
they use every trick in the book and a freaking professional racer to get those times.
regular guy would run mid 12 in old z06.
torque management, lol, please, the turbo, with computer launch, off the line, spins all 4 tires quickly,even in summer heat,seen it myself, and then boom, its gone like off a catapult.
well you look at trap speed and you know whih one is gonna pull away at higher speeds,easy as.
but until 120mph youre looking at the porsches rear pipes.
if you can see them after the usual launch fiasco.
in the real world, any moron can launch an awd like a pro, while rwd an amateur will be blown away by such turds like evo 7 with a computer managment upgrade,i seen it too many times.
corevtte is good for the money,but lets keep it realistic
Oh brother, not sure where to start here, as there's quite a bit incorrect with your posts, so to address it all I'll give a bit of analysis of each of the Corvettes you mentioned:
C6 Z06 - this ran from 2006 to 2013, started off as the high-performance Corvette and ended as the middle-tier Corvette. It's ONLY offered in a manual, and has 505 horsepower. Whenever a car is a manual-only, the acceleration times you read won't be as consistent, since it really depends on a driver. I don't know how to drive a manual so I'd probably get a 15-16 second quarter mile in a C6 Z06 lol, doesn't mean anything when considering what the car is actually capable of. Here's a Car and Driver comparison with the C6 Z06 and the Nissan GTR, check out this pdf:
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2012-chevrolet-corvette-z06-vs-2013-nissan-gt-r-vs-2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-comparison-test-car-and-driver2012-chevrolet-corvette-z06-vs-2013-nissan-gt-r-vs-2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-febuary2012.pdf
The GTR wins in 0-60, 1/4 mile time but loses in 1/4 trap speed (trap speed = a better indicator anyway), also loses 0-150. Now if you take the 0-150 time and subtract the 0-60 times from it, you get a 60-150 time in the Z06 of 13.5 seconds versus 14.8 seconds for the same in the GTR. So it really depends what your definition of speed is, if you're a stoplight racer and that's what you value, then yeah GTR is the faster car, but if you're looking at the overall picture its not that simple. Keep in mind this is "just" the 505 hp C6 Z06 in the comparison too.
C6 ZR1 - This was the fastest Corvette from 2009 to 2013. Again, only offered in manual, which is why there's a huge range in 1/4 mile times depending on who drove it, unlike auto-only cars like the GTR, Porsche Turbo, etc. Here's an interesting comparison with the Porsche GT2:
It also shows that despite having a faster off-the line-acceleration the Porsche isn't necessarily the faster car between the two. Re: 1/4 mile times, there are drivers who have posted their timeslips of sub-11 second times with their C6 ZR1 on stock tires, but the fastest magazine test I've seen was an 11.1.
C7 Stingray - This is the 2014 base model. It's offered in auto and manual, although most magazines test the manual - so again you have the huge variance in acceleration stats. Some are even well above 4 seconds 0-60 and well over 12 second 1/4 mile. Then in contrast Motor Trend got 3.7 second 0-60 and 12.0 1/4 mile (also with a manual):
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1312_chevrolet_corvette_stingray_z51_ferrari_f12_berlinetta_porsche_911_carrera_4s/
Motor Trend is not US-car biased, they even gave Porsche the win despite it having the slowest acceleration and slowest track time in the comparison, so you can't claim they tested the acceleration of the Corvette under more favourable conditions than the Porsche. In that test it even shows that the track time of the base C7 is just a hair behind the Ferrari F12! Anyway, here's an example of a test with an auto, where they got consistent 11.7's in the C7 (and its a non-Z51 model which is a tad slower than the Z51-equipped Stingray):
http://www.vetteweb.com/hotnews/1311_vette_puts_the_new_c7_through_paces/
Also in this video you'll see the rolling race between the C7 versus the Porsche 911S and its not even close! Note it's not a roll from a high speed but only from 30 mph, which is very typical of the street race encounter, and more typical than the red light to red light scenerio (scroll to 3:20 if you dont want to watch the rest of it):
Drivers with Z51 auto Stingrays have posted 1/4 mile times of consistent 11.5 and 11.6's, even though most manuals are 12 seconds or greater - shows the difference in off the line acceleration between the manual and auto C7's.
C7 Z06 - GM stated this will be the fastest production Corvette ever, and said there are no plans to have a ZR1 model, i.e. it looks like this will be the top tier C7 similar to what the ZR1 was for the C6. That said, obviously GM would not make a slower high-po Corvette in 2015 than its predecessor 2009 version lol. They haven't given the exact hp figure but said it would be "at least 625 hp" - my guess is it'll be 640, as they always come out a bit higher. The game-changer though is that this time it'll be offered with an A8 for the first time. Note how I showed that the base C7 has a solid 0.3 to 0.5 second improvement in 1/4 mile when equipped with an auto versus a manual, now you can imagine putting an auto in a 640 hp Corvette which was already getting very low 11's in the 1/4 mile in a comparable manual version (the C6 ZR1 version).
Time will tell for sure, but based on what we know it's hard to argue that the C7 Z06 auto will NOT be a 10 second car, and that's with it being RWD and having the traction disadvantage. Compare it off of a roll to something like a GTR and they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. The C6 Z06, with its 120+ hp deficit over the C7 Z06 was still quicker in a roll than the GTR in the link I pasted above, now add 120+ hp to it and its lights out for the GTR.
I'm happy that my C6 is a Z51 with an auto. It's faster than a Porsche 911S but I know its slower than a 911 Turbo. That was an apples to oranges comparison you made. Compare high-po to high-po or base to base - but to be fair I'm still comparing base C7 versus one step above base 911 (the 911S - also over double the price!)
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For the price of a used Aston Martin or used 911 you can buy a new C7 with full warranty, new-car smell, the exact options and colours you want, etc.
huh?
I just looked at an 03 Carerra 4S with less than 35k miles for $31k and looking at the same 01 911 Turbo with 32k miles (520hp techart model) for $42k... both tiptronic, except the C4S didn't have navi.... Carerra 4S just fucking sings when you open it up. I quit racing in '00 and don't remember our motors sounding that nice. lol. CrS was black on black... not my fav, but the turbo is white on red with black wheels... fucking sexy as hell.
I do like the new vettes though, one of my clients just picked up a gunmetal/grey '14 (her 16th corvette in total... husband buys them for her every couple years), but side by side i'll take the Porsche.
also drove a Cayenne (is that spelled right?) GTS today as well.. gotta say if it didn't get 9mpg I'd deff choose it over an escalade.
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yah ppl here say, when they see someone bought a vette, they say" ah i see, the money wasnt enough to aford a porsche" ;D
btw, in the video above , at 4m20s, until there the bike plays around with the car and then boom.
the translation from there on is "no chance in hell,no chance at all"
cars are endless moneypits, would never get one for the speed,any random bike will smoke you so bad its not even funny.
to me, this puts doing bolt on mods to cars in a rather laughable perspective.
Bingo. If you want performance, get a Hayabusa for like $14000 and that'll smoke anything on the road. But what's the point anyways, you can't drive fast in America..... no autobahn :(
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Bingo. If you want performance, get a Hayabusa for like $14000 and that'll smoke anything on the road. But what's the point anyways, you can't drive fast in America..... no autobahn :(
With a good radar detector you can drive across the country averaging 100 MPH. 8)
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huh?
I just looked at an 03 Carerra 4S with less than 35k miles for $31k and looking at the same 01 911 Turbo with 32k miles (520hp techart model) for $42k... both tiptronic, except the C4S didn't have navi.... Carerra 4S just fucking sings when you open it up. I quit racing in '00 and don't remember our motors sounding that nice. lol. CrS was black on black... not my fav, but the turbo is white on red with black wheels... fucking sexy as hell.
I do like the new vettes though, one of my clients just picked up a gunmetal/grey '14 (her 16th corvette in total... husband buys them for her every couple years), but side by side i'll take the Porsche.
also drove a Cayenne (is that spelled right?) GTS today as well.. gotta say if it didn't get 9mpg I'd deff choose it over an escalade.
I respect the Porsche, GTR, etc. My post above wasn't meant to bash, was just responding to the silly post about how Corvette's suck in comparison especially since facts are inconsistent with that assumption.
What kind of work do you do? You mentioned "your clients" a few times?
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USED Aston Martins? This is getbig, everyones getting one of these for just over 4 million bucks
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/pix/slideshow/03-2013/lamborghini-veneno-the/6-veneno-0600313.jpg)
I would totally be the dude putting a car seat in there.
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I'm surprised you expected a response at all.
It's pretty obvious youre trying to shoehorn your shiny new car into a thread about luxury cars, but Vettes are a dime-a-dozen. Who cares, let us know when you get something impressive
Actually I always posted pro-Corvette and pro-American cars in general on getbig even well before I got my Corvette. Don't flatter yourself by assuming that I care to try to impress you. If was the type that was trying to shoehorn I'd be asking what you drive as well as the others who are posting negatively to compare.
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Bingo. If you want performance, get a Hayabusa for like $14000 and that'll smoke anything on the road. But what's the point anyways, you can't drive fast in America..... no autobahn :(
Totally irrelevent comparison. I have no interest in driving a bike for example. What's next, saying "why buy a bike or sports car when you get a used airplane that'll destroy them both" ::)
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What's next, saying "why buy a bike or sports car when you get a used airplane that'll destroy them both" ::)
ROFL... True
to me, flying an airplane... this puts doing bolt on mods to cars in a rather laughable perspective.
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bigboob dont be such a girl,i am very aware of the years procuced etc.
i said the old c6 z06 will be something like the new stingray.
fact on the matter, the porsche turbo blows away in quartermile,and on street,and even 60-120 the following.
your base c7
the old c6zo6
and hangs with the old zr1.
hope this helps.
spare me the street tires blabla, manual vs auto.
the porsche you sit in, launch control and boom, the corevette eats dust.it is what it is.
you go and take and compare the very best vette out there vs the not best and fastwst porsche.compare it to the 918 or whatver the one is with 900hp.
nobody gives a fuck about the nissan, and i said yeah trap speed and youll know which one pulls away at speeds you will never go anyway.
either way, dont care about cars nomore much.
precisely bc of this, bugatti veyron it doesnt get any better, gets owned by the same bmw bike
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boOnygO-ZWc)
here one might arguie too, the bugatti will pull the bike at 180mph, sure bc areodynamic and bc bikes are limited to 186mph, but this is embabrassing.can get a used bike like this for less than 10k usd, id feel like a sucker wasting a million on this bugati looking like a modded audi tt, and then get the doors blown off by some schmoe on 10k vehicle,wich is perfectly solid daily driver no maintenance besides oilchanges.
Bingo. If you want performance, get a Hayabusa for like $14000 and that'll smoke anything on the road. But what's the point anyways, you can't drive fast in America..... no autobahn :(
yah any 1000+cc sportbike will do,the 1000s are even faster than the bigger bikes.
i have german autobahn here very close, can go there and legaly drive 200mph :D
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Totally irrelevent comparison. I have no interest in driving a bike for example. What's next, saying "why buy a bike or sports car when you get a used airplane that'll destroy them both" ::)
nah, its about performance, youre the one who wanted to overrate the corvettes performance, i dont think you bought the vette bc of the sport seats, but bc performance.
its the only one factor to actualy buy it, but get better bang for buck on any bike.
and yeah, remember, things like evo 7 mitsubishi, a ricer pos, will kill you off the line every time.
this is the real world.can bring car mags numbers all you want, but you know this.
alll the real good sport cars are changing to awd, even ferarri!.lambo anyway.
hell ferrari has adaptable 4wd where even the single wheels adapt to driving style and you talk of some "new" a8 gearbox haha,comeone.
the best gearbox according to some formula 1 driver who tried, in normal cars is int he nisaan actualy.i dont think the vette transmission comes close, gm lives from engineering pov, in the dark ages.
the vette engine, single camshaft,oh brother.
or do they have dohc of some kind by now,i dont follow this anymore?
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bigboob dont be such a girl,i am very aware of the years procuced etc.
i said the old c6 z06 will be something like the new stingray.
fact on the matter, the porsche turbo blows away in quartermile,and on street,and even 60-120 the following.
your base c7
the old c6zo6
and hangs with the old zr1.
hope this helps.
spare me the street tires blabla, manual vs auto.
the porsche you sit in, launch control and boom, the corevette eats dust.it is what it is.
you go and take and compare the very best vette out there vs the not best and fastwst porsche.compare it to the 918 or whatver the one is with 900hp.
nobody gives a fuck about the nissan, and i said yeah trap speed and youll know which one pulls away at speeds you will never go anyway.
either way, dont care about cars nomore much.
precisely bc of this, bugatti veyron it doesnt get any better, gets owned by the same bmw bike
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boOnygO-ZWc)
here one might arguie too, the bugatti will pull the bike at 180mph, sure bc areodynamic and bc bikes are limited to 186mph, but this is embabrassing.can get a used bike like this for less than 10k usd, id feel like a sucker wasting a million on this bugati looking like a modded audi tt, and then get the doors blown off by some schmoe on 10k vehicle,wich is perfectly solid daily driver no maintenance besides oilchanges.
yah any 1000+cc sportbike will do,the 1000s are even faster than the bigger bikes.
i have german autobahn here very close, can go there and legaly drive 200mph :D
dude, where did I claim that my base c7 is faster than a new porsche turbo? ???
I said the base C7 is faster than a Porsche 911 or Porsche 911S.
If you're going to talk about the Porsche turbo its only fair to compare it to the high-po Corvette - which we don't have final numbers for the C7 Z06, but from what we know the two cars will be comparable.
Porsche 918 lol - wtf now you're comparing $1 million barely production models to a Corvette.
How about we compare similar price range - C7 Stingray versus Porsche Cayman (non-S) or Boxter non-S. Totally blows both out of the fucking water, as well as the more expensive S versions. I'm trying to be fair by comparing Porsches double in price to the counterpart Vette, and now you're mentioning one that's 10 times the price LOL.
Anyway I've said what I needed to say, and not interested in continuing a "my favourite car is faster than your favourite car" argument, or in YOUR case its "my favourite car is faster than the car you drive" ::) Signing off and spending some time with the wifey next, she's already wondering wtf are you on the internet for the last hour lol
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For 150k the Nismo GTR is one the fastest production car ever , something like 7:08 at the nurburgring
Comparing a C7 vette to a 6 yr old GTR Is ludacris
Nothing will ever beat an awd DCT paddle shift car
I've driven lots of vettes, blah the C7 is nice but all the rest imo are junk, just a lot of power , piss poor quality build, horrible steering feel, chassis feels like shit, typical American car with just a big engine
The C7 is a step up
Porsches are what SPORTS cars are about
It's not just numbers.... There's more to a car than that
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dude, where did I claim that my base c7 is faster than a new porsche turbo? ???
I said the baseC7 is faster than a Porsche 911 or Porsche 911S.
If you're going to talk about the Porsche turbo its only fair to compare it to the high-po Corvette - which we don't have final numbers for the C7 Z06, but from what we know the two cars will be comparable.
Porsche 918 lol - wtf now you're comparing $1 million barely production models to a Corvette.
How about we compare similar price range - C7 Stingray versus Porsche Cayman (non-S) or Boxter non-S. Totally blows both out of the fucking water, as well as the more expensive S versions. I'm trying to be fair by comparing Porsches double in price to the counterpart Vette, and now you're mentioning one that's 10 times the price LOL.
Anyway I've said what I needed to say, and not interested in continuing a "my favourite car is faster than your favourite car" argument, or in YOUR case its "my favourite car is faster than the car you drive" ::) Signing off and spending some time with the wifey next, she's already wondering wtf are you on the internet for the last hour lol
And.... So?? The 911 overall is still a better sports car, not just numbers. Lots of publications choose the 911 over the vette.... It just feels better
But then again people just like to look at quarter mile times, 0-60, horsepower nonsense ::)
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hhaha base cayenne vs zr1 ;D
h i see you meant the shit naturaly aspirate carreara
yeah that thing will be running something like the vette and killed from a 60mph roll, fully agrre.sorry always thought you meant the turbo :-\
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For 150k the Nismo GTR is one the fastest production car ever , something like 7:08 at the nurburgring
Comparing a C7 vette to a 6 yr old GTR Is ludacris
Nothing will ever beat an awd DCT paddle shift car
I've driven lots of vettes, blah the C7 is nice but all the rest imo are junk, just a lot of power , piss poor quality build, horrible steering feel, chassis feels like shit, typical American car with just a big engine
The C7 is a step up
Porsches are what SPORTS cars are about
It's not just numbers.... There's more to a car than that
brutal thing is, bc they dont go awd, they will be destroyd left and right by competiton.
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I respect the Porsche, GTR, etc. My post above wasn't meant to bash, was just responding to the silly post about how Corvette's suck in comparison especially since facts are inconsistent with that assumption.
What kind of work do you do? You mentioned "your clients" a few times?
no worries. I just like bang for the buck.. Porsche is a bit more 'exotic' and has a different image than a vette to me. and you can get them for $30k (or less, even, if you don't mind 50k miles.. which really isn't a problem with those motors or suspensions)... if the 911 had a more different interior, say more like a GT-R, I could probably use it as a daily driver. (I love the GT-R's interior and dash.. it's like a car out of a TRON movie or something).
work? I do a few things.. run a few businesses. clients are training clients mostly.
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hhaha base cayenne vs zr1 ;D
h i see you meant the shit naturaly aspirate carreara
yeah that thing will be running something like the vette and killed from a 60mph roll, fully agrre.sorry always thought you meant the turbo :-\
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brutal thing is, bc they dont go awd, they will be destroyd left and right by competiton.
If u look at the AMG Mercedes the e class version is now only available in the US with AWD
I suspect in the future BMW M will follow suit with awd
Cars with tons of power is turning to AWD double clutch trans or 8 sp autos , that's the way to go for all out power and efficiency
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Ahh I did step away from the computer but was checking for updates on my phone and after reading this I came back to another post lol, couldn't resist.
For 150k the Nismo GTR is one the fastest production car ever , something like 7:08 at the nurburgring
Comparing a C7 vette to a 6 yr old GTR Is ludacris
It's not much more than speculation that the GTR that did 7:08 or whatever the time was will be the actual production car that people can buy. For one the car isn't available, and secondly even for the 2013 and prior GTR's no third party is confirming that these cars Nissan sends to the Ring are even stock. They could be, but it makes me wonder why the GTR is relatively slower at other tracks like the VIR or Laguna Seca than Nissan's claimed nurburgring versions.
The GTR was improved almost every subsequent production year, so I'm not sure what you mean by comparing a vette to a 6 year old GTR. The 6 year old one was 485 hp. One can also say the Z6 ZR1 is 5-6 years old since it was intro'd as a 2009 model.
Nothing will ever beat an awd DCT paddle shift car
Off of a dig you're right, but off of a roll its not so cut and dry.
hhaha base cayenne vs zr1 ;D
h i see you meant the shit naturaly aspirate carreara
yeah that thing will be running something like the vette and killed from a 60mph roll, fully agrre.sorry always thought you meant the turbo :-\
Sorry if I sounded confrontational earlier, I can tell now you're just having fun :) Re: "shit naturally aspirated though" - so is the C7 stingray, again making it a fair comparison ;)
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no worries. I just like bang for the buck.. Porsche is a bit more 'exotic' and has a different image than a vette to me. and you can get them for $30k (or less, even, if you don't mind 50k miles.. which really isn't a problem with those motors or suspensions)... if the 911 had a more different interior, say more like a GT-R, I could probably use it as a daily driver. (I love the GT-R's interior and dash.. it's like a car out of a TRON movie or something).
work? I do a few things.. run a few businesses. clients are training clients mostly.
I agree Porsche has the status thing going for it, but to be honest that's one of the reasons I strongly prefer a Corvette over Porsche - I would never be that guy who pays extra for a badge or to show others "Hey look I can afford a Porsche" etc. I know some people buy a Porsche because they legitimately love the car, but the ones who buy it as a status symbol are lame and insecure IMO.
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I agree Porsche has the status thing going for it, but to be honest that's one of the reasons I strongly prefer a Corvette over Porsche - I would never be that guy who pays extra for a badge or to show others "Hey look I can afford a Porsche" etc. I know some people buy a Porsche because they legitimately love the car, but the ones who buy it as a status symbol are lame and insecure IMO.
I like Porsche's driving experience.. and reliability.. and price (they can be had cheap), so you're not 'paying extra'. most guys in a Porsche don't give a shit about who's car is faster. it's always the guys in the other cars that bring it up.. Porsche owners usually don't care as that's not why they drive it.
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no worries carera vs base c7 is fair comparo.
btw, it was sennas son i think who said the gtr has the best gearbox for all purposes, including for track.
the corevettes is in relative comparo, a tractor vehicle transmission ;D
its funny when ppl say you just gotta know how to shift,when things like the gizmo trans are shifting better than any human ever could, by far, all computer controlled.
btw its true, the major german test mag,they dont test if the engines are stock,they just assume.
i remember when the sl55 beat the murcielago in the 0-180,this is stock vs stock physicaly impossible.not just improbable ;D
sure the lambo is awd and that costs power up top, and it was a manual vs auto mercer, but still, that was good example that the car realy wasnt stock.
:D
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its funny when ppl say you just gotta know how to shift,when things like the gizmo trans are shifting better than any human ever could, by far, all computer controlled.
I would actually prefer if they dropped the manual completely from all c7s, because I too don't like the "you have to know how to shift" debates, and because the mags would be giving better and more consistent numbers. For now we'll have to wait for the auto z06's numbers and youtube race videos to compare, but I'm very optomistic about it!
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A little too much rubber and horsepower talk in this thread. Think I'll soften things up a bit.
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I would actually prefer if they dropped the manual completely from all c7s, because I too don't like the "you have to know how to shift" debates, and because the mags would be giving better and more consistent numbers. For now we'll have to wait for the auto z06's numbers and youtube race videos to compare, but I'm very optomistic about it!
Is your C7 a stick or auto?
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I'll take a classic pre owned 1960's Aston Martin and a classic "pre owned", high mileage 1960's blond.
That Aston is gorgeous, and so is the woman...
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A little too much rubber and horsepower talk in this thread. Think I'll soften things up a bit.
oh my god!!! Epic pic
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I was looking into this and for $50K I can get a 2005-07 B9 with anywhere from 25k to 35K miles on it. They are sweet looking cars.
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Is your C7 a stick or auto?
auto 8)
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I was looking into this and for $50K I can get a 2005-07 B9 with anywhere from 25k to 35K miles on it. They are sweet looking cars.
If you're comparing cost of ownership of a $50k car that's 8 years old, without warranty and that happens to be a European car with higher cost of replacement parts, it'll likely cost you the same over the next 5 years as a new car that's maybe $60-65k. Plus with the new car you can pick exactly what colour and options you want, unlike in the used market.
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If you're comparing cost of ownership of a $50k car that's 8 years old, without warranty and that happens to be a European car with higher cost of replacement parts, it'll likely cost you the same over the next 5 years as a new car that's maybe $60-65k. Plus with the new car you can pick exactly what colour and options you want, unlike in the used market.
Luckily for me if I wanted a DB9, SoCal is the place to be for the used market and getting all sorts of choices. There are all sorts out there. Now would I ever spend that money on a British made car? Fuck no. I knew a guy who owned a british car mechanics shop. It was always packed with all sorts of MGs, AMs, RR, Jags etc... Jags were notorious for blowing their transmissions.
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Wow lots of wannabe's commenting on cars that they cannot afford. Unlike 99% of the people offering their opinions on this thread, Bob's and I actually own the a C7 and I think we are in a better position to comment then the rest of you sunfire driving food stamp folk who wish they could buy a porche or wish they could buy an Aston Martin. Man the fuck up, buy something worthwhile and then talk shit.
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Wow lots of wannabe's commenting on cars that they cannot afford. Unlike 99% of the people offering their opinions on this thread, Bob's and I actually own the a C7 and I think we are in a better position to comment then the rest of you sunfire driving food stamp folk who wish they could buy a porche or wish they could buy an Aston Martin. Man the fuck up, buy something worthwhile and then talk shit.
lol... typical vette owner.
chip on shoulder.
something to prove.
lol "worthwhile"
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Yes, but what about a real mans car. 2012 Dodge Challenger R/T.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lEHLYFLN-5o/UJhDMhTQgVI/AAAAAAAAZMU/6F5LWXO6Xm0/s1600/2012_Dodge-Challenger-Red-RT.jpeg)
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lol... typical vette owner.
chip on shoulder.
something to prove.
lol "worthwhile"
Nailed it.
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Yes, but what about a real mans car. 2012 Dodge Challenger R/T.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lEHLYFLN-5o/UJhDMhTQgVI/AAAAAAAAZMU/6F5LWXO6Xm0/s1600/2012_Dodge-Challenger-Red-RT.jpeg)
I really like the look of the Challenger, but I bet it's all plastic.
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I really like the look of the Challenger, but I bet it's all plastic.
:-\
It's a nice ride my friend (I own one) Looks great, Hemi V8 (379 hp stock) You aren't going to do much better (brand new) for around 30K.
Thats if you want an American muscle car. I think Camaro's look like shit. Mustang's are a dime a dozen.
The Challenger blends old with new perfectly.
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It's a nice ride my friend (I own one) Looks great, Hemi V8 (379 hp stock) You aren't going to do much better (brand new) for around 30K.
Thats if you want an American muscle car. I think Camaro's look like shit. Mustang's are a dime a dozen.
The Challenger blends old with new perfectly.
Yeah, I think you're right. I would probably go with a Challenger, good choice.
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Yeah, I think you're right. I would probably go with a Challenger, good choice.
heavy car that doesn't handle. Mustangs sound better, handle better, weigh less. And the new 2015 Mustang...damn...
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Yeah, I think you're right. I would probably go with a Challenger, good choice.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/02/interior_450.jpg)
A nice pic of the interior. I have been in a late model Corvette, and was appalled at the interior.
It looked like it should have been in a Chevy malibu :-X A true sign that Corvette was resting on it's image.
I'm sure they have upgraded the cabin in recent years. ;)
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heavy car that doesn't handle. Mustangs sound better, handle better, weigh less. And the new 2015 Mustang...damn...
Mustangs are cookie cutter. Then again you are talking about a 2015 vs a 2012.
I think the Challenger looks far better then the Mustang.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/02/interior_450.jpg)
A nice pic of the interior. I have been in a late model Corvette, and was appalled at the interior.
It looked like it should have been in a Chevy malibu :-X A true sign that Corvette was resting on it's image.
I'm sure they have upgraded the cabin in recent years. ;)
Nice, way better than I expected. I just assumed it would be similar to the Corvette. It would be cool if someone made an oldschool aftermarket steering wheel that looked more like the old original one.
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Nice, way better than I expected. I just assumed it would be similar to the Corvette. It would be cool if someone made an oldschool aftermarket steering wheel that looked more like the old original one.
Trust me, i'm sure they have them out there.
Don't get me wrong, I really like corvettes (especially the new model :o)
It's just that the interrior never matched the exterior. Plain jane all the way.
Not to mention that I have had friends that had both Mustangs and Corvettes. They were both in the shop alot. :-\
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Mustangs are cookie cutter. Then again you are talking about a 2015 vs a 2012.
I think the Challenger looks far better then the Mustang.
The Challenger apes the original, and so does the Mustang. It was the Mustang that ushered in the retro design for the muscle cars. The interior of the Challenger uses too much hard plastic for my taste, and is "cookie cutter in layout", design is boring. I was talking about weigh as well, it's a big, heavy car The Challenger using a heavily modified chassis from the 90s Mercedes E class (w210).
It looks cool in black, and the 392 is a great model. I know someone with it.
But, it's the mustang, that will be The Originator. I took a look at a 2014 a few days ago...beautiful car.
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The Challenger apes the original, and so does the Mustang. It was the Mustang that ushered in the retro design for the muscle cars. The interior of the Challenger uses too much hard plastic for my taste, and is "cookie cutter in layout", design is boring. I was talking about weigh as well, it's a big, heavy car The Challenger using a heavily modified chassis from the 90s Mercedes E class (w210).
It looks cool in black, and the 392 is a great model. I know someone with it.
But, it's the mustang, that will be The Originator. I took a look at a 2014 a few days ago...beautiful car.
It's all about opinions in the end. I like the interior of the Mustang. I just think the outside looks boring. Maybe it's because I see 100 of them on the road every day ::)
There is a reason why they keep tweaking the exterior of the Mustang.
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Good everyday car, easy to maintain without a ton of Royal Purple...
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It's all about opinions in the end. I like the interior of the Mustang. I just think the outside looks boring. Maybe it's because I see 100 of them on the road every day ::)
There is a reason why they keep tweaking the exterior of the Mustang.
yes, because the 2005 model has aged terribly...I actually hate the retro styling, but like the 2010-2014 models better. Like picking poison.
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Wow lots of wannabe's commenting on cars that they cannot afford. Unlike 99% of the people offering their opinions on this thread, Bob's and I actually own the a C7 and I think we are in a better position to comment then the rest of you sunfire driving food stamp folk who wish they could buy a porche or wish they could buy an Aston Martin. Man the fuck up, buy something worthwhile and then talk shit.
calm down "gag(on cock)2"
i have owned leased much superior cars than a vette before
no seriosuly everyone can get a lease on quite expensive cars, i seen just today, kids who recently learned to piss straight on their own, driving around i 55 and 63models amgs.
sure they starve for that, but they dod rive the cars.
hell a middle class audi, or any other german car costs more than the base corvette.cars that are bought for the women so she can get grocieres and go to the barber shop.
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Genius Marketing. ;D
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USED Aston Martins? This is getbig, everyones getting one of these for just over 4 million bucks
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/pix/slideshow/03-2013/lamborghini-veneno-the/6-veneno-0600313.jpg)
ugly as fuck
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ugly as fuck
And the first rabbit that jumps out in front of you totals your shit lol
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Ahh I did step away from the computer but was checking for updates on my phone and after reading this I came back to another post lol, couldn't resist.
It's not much more than speculation that the GTR that did 7:08 or whatever the time was will be the actual production car that people can buy. For one the car isn't available, and secondly even for the 2013 and prior GTR's no third party is confirming that these cars Nissan sends to the Ring are even stock. They could be, but it makes me wonder why the GTR is relatively slower at other tracks like the VIR or Laguna Seca than Nissan's claimed nurburgring versions.
The GTR was improved almost every subsequent production year, so I'm not sure what you mean by comparing a vette to a 6 year old GTR. The 6 year old one was 485 hp. One can also say the Z6 ZR1 is 5-6 years old since it was intro'd as a 2009 model.
Off of a dig you're right, but off of a roll its not so cut and dry.
Sorry if I sounded confrontational earlier, I can tell now you're just having fun :) Re: "shit naturally aspirated though" - so is the C7 stingray, again making it a fair comparison ;)
Ahh the Nismo GTR is available to the public starting now for 150K price
Those times are LEGIT, go look it up there are vids of it and no one is doubting the 7:08 claim
The GTR is still a 6 yr old car that weighs 3800 Ibs with a 6 yr old chassis, transmission, etc...
It's best to compare it to the c6, doesn't matter how much improvement it makes
U can't change the fact that AWD auto/paddle shift is the way to go if u looking for straight speed
Vettes are still rwd, manual
Wait for the new GTR around the corner and it will obliterate the vettes
Frankly I could care less like I said about speed or who has he most HP blah blah blah
Give me the new M3 or cayman S
U can keep that c7 vette and pound your chest and argue how much Hp or how fast it is :D
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I like Porsche's driving experience.. and reliability.. and price (they can be had cheap), so you're not 'paying extra'. most guys in a Porsche don't give a shit about who's car is faster. it's always the guys in the other cars that bring it up.. Porsche owners usually don't care as that's not why they drive it.
Exactly
U can argue the guys that usually buy vettes, or any "inexpensive" sports cars always bragging about they paid half of what porsche owners and that their cars make this much power and is cheaper ::)
Anyone that's ever hung around porsche enthusiasts know that group is hardcore, this isn't the ferrari crowd u are talking too which seems to be more poseurs
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heavy car that doesn't handle. Mustangs sound better, handle better, weigh less. And the new 2015 Mustang...damn...
Amen, Mr Parker....yes, that shit is too heavy man....rented one from Avis a year ago and took a trip to Columbus, the ride was comfortable, but man, the car feel so damn heavy...the bloated feel was the only thing that turns me off
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Ahh the Nismo GTR is available to the public starting now for 150K price
Those times are LEGIT, go look it up there are vids of it and no one is doubting the 7:08 claim
The GTR is still a 6 yr old car that weighs 3800 Ibs with a 6 yr old chassis, transmission, etc...
It's best to compare it to the c6, doesn't matter how much improvement it makes
U can't change the fact that AWD auto/paddle shift is the way to go if u looking for straight speed
Vettes are still rwd, manual
Wait for the new GTR around the corner and it will obliterate the vettes
Frankly I could care less like I said about speed or who has he most HP blah blah blah
Give me the new M3 or cayman S
U can keep that c7 vette and pound your chest and argue how much Hp or how fast it is :D
I have no doubt the 7:08 time was legit, what I'm not so sure about is whether the GTR that ran that time was completely stock.
Not following your logic at all re: only comparing the new Nismo GTR to the now old C6's.
I guess you also missed the part that all c7s (including the Z06) will now have an auto with paddle shift option rather than manual only
To date the Corvette has accomplished what it wishes to, so I'm sure if/when the time comes that it can no longer be the top dog for cars within double its price with a rwd only I'm sure GM will adapt and adjust the Corvette accordingly
You don't care about numbers, good for you. I do. I can just as easily say "Give me a Corvette, you can keep that m3 or cayman s and pound your chest and argue how nice it feels or how nice the materials used in the interior are. :D"
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Yes, but what about a real mans car. 2012 Dodge Challenger R/T.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lEHLYFLN-5o/UJhDMhTQgVI/AAAAAAAAZMU/6F5LWXO6Xm0/s1600/2012_Dodge-Challenger-Red-RT.jpeg)
Too heavy, too overpriced and personally not a big fan of the retro styling.
A friend of mine bought a new fully loaded SRT Challenger and it cost him a tad more than my new C7 that's about average-loaded.
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Just bumping this in case Bevo didn't see my last reply as it was made right before the getbig crash lol