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Title: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2014, 11:08:18 AM
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Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: RRKore on March 05, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
Divide and conquer?
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 06, 2014, 03:17:22 AM
Poor people eating fish is destroying the US.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 06, 2014, 11:15:46 AM
I think the issue with it is, which is the actual issue I have with it, is that if you are on a budget (which if you are on food stamps you should be), that you should not be frivolously spending money on more expensive groceries.  When I was in college, I ate healthy, but frugally.  If you have $50 a week to spend on groceries, why shoot your wad on shrimp and steak the first day, and be eating Ramen the next six?  But, it is most likely poor financial decisions made by the perpetrator in the first place that led to being on food stamps.  :-\
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 12, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
I think the issue with it is, which is the actual issue I have with it, is that if you are on a budget (which if you are on food stamps you should be), that you should not be frivolously spending money on more expensive groceries.  When I was in college, I ate healthy, but frugally.  If you have $50 a week to spend on groceries, why shoot your wad on shrimp and steak the first day, and be eating Ramen the next six?  But, it is most likely poor financial decisions made by the perpetrator in the first place that led to being on food stamps.  :-\


I can assure you that the vast majority of people on food stamps are not buying steak and shrimp. ::)
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: RRKore on March 12, 2014, 07:36:35 PM

I can assure you that the vast majority of people on food stamps are not buying steak and shrimp. ::)

Tell 'em, Vince!

So clean out ya ears and open up your eyes
I reach out to touch but somebody moved the sky
My stomach is growlin,word is born
Cos all I had for dinner was a can-o-corn

A can-o-corn,a can-o-corn
All I had for dinner was a can-o-corn
A can-o-corn,a can-o-corn
Before I went to school I had a can-o-corn
A can-o-corn,a can-o-corn
I tried to get full off a can-o-corn
A can-o-corn,a can-o-corn
That's all the fuck that we had in the kitchen

- Artis Leon Ivey Jr. "Coolio"



Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 12, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish

    
When you're forced to financially support others, you would rather they didn't waste your money on luxuries.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 04:38:38 AM
   
When you're forced to financially support others, you would rather they didn't waste your money on luxuries.


How much luxuries can you buy on welfare ???
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 04:43:59 AM

How much luxuries can you buy on welfare ???

food is the new  luxury       ooooooobaaaaaaaamaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2014, 04:50:32 AM

I can assure you that the vast majority of people on food stamps are not buying steak and shrimp. ::)

We're not talking about the vast majority here, just those eating fish.  It's more about welfare abuse than the welfare itself.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 13, 2014, 05:00:27 AM
We're not talking about the vast majority here, just those eating fish.  It's more about welfare abuse than the welfare itself.

Don't get welfare confused with food stamps.....and quite frankly it is retarded to argue about people eating fish
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 13, 2014, 05:08:16 AM

How much luxuries can you buy on welfare ???

You can afford much more than the bare minimum apparently.

(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/62/625581/welfare-pays-more-than-work-in-35-states-new--L-_5Cr0A.jpeg)
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2014, 05:18:49 AM
Don't get welfare confused with food stamps.....and quite frankly it is retarded to argue about people eating fish

Vince, I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my view that if you are tight on money, you should buy the cheaper foods, until you can get back on your feet.  One can not accrue wealth, or even savings while in debt.  Austerity is what is needed.  You, obviously see things in a different light.  To each his own.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 05:29:16 AM
You can afford much more than the bare minimum apparently.

(http://m5.paperblog.com/i/62/625581/welfare-pays-more-than-work-in-35-states-new--L-_5Cr0A.jpeg)

You are on welfare?
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 13, 2014, 05:38:35 AM
Vince, I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my view that if you are tight on money, you should buy the cheaper foods, until you can get back on your feet.  One can not accrue wealth, or even savings while in debt.  Austerity is what is needed.  You, obviously see things in a different light.  To each his own.

 ::)
Fish is not a luxury food.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 06:27:50 AM
Vince, I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my view that if you are tight on money, you should buy the cheaper foods, until you can get back on your feet.  One can not accrue wealth, or even savings while in debt.  Austerity is what is needed.  You, obviously see things in a different light.  To each his own.

Fish is a luxury to you?

What line of business are you in?
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 07:15:16 AM
I feel sorry for the republican getbiggers.

It must be a pain to be so useless that you feel envy for poor people who eat fish.

And then you bitch about and it and call yourself christian.

Fucking losers.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 07:24:50 AM
I feel sorry for the republican getbiggers.

It must be a pain to be so useless that you feel envy for poor people who eat fish.

And then you bitch about and it and call yourself christian.

Fucking losers.

No one feels envy.  Asking people on assistance to better budget their handouts isn't a bad thing.   The president agrees when it comes to healthcare.   
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2014, 07:35:02 AM
Fish is a luxury to you?

What line of business are you in?

Did I say it was a luxury? Read my original post on the subject. People on a budget need to be a bit more frugal.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 07:39:43 AM
so their diet should consist of kraft mac and cheese.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 07:43:51 AM
so their diet should consist of kraft mac and cheese.

If that's what they can afford.  No one is entitled to luxuries.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2014, 07:44:39 AM
Yes - if you are on EBT or assistance - you need basics like potatos, rice, beans, etc - not steaks, lobsters, caviar, champagne, and shrimps. 
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
I feel sorry for the republican getbiggers.

It must be a pain to be so useless that you feel envy for poor people who eat fish.

And then you bitch about and it and call yourself christian.

Fucking losers.

this is such an ignorant statement.  

and once again, the liberal on the board brings up christianity.  

we are trillions of dollars in debt.  Are we allowed to have budget concerns?  are we allowed to start with the most abused welfare program in the world?

or should we just shut up and raise taxes again?
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 07:48:12 AM
this is such an ignorant statement.  

and once again, the liberal on the board brings up christianity.  

we are trillions of dollars in debt.  Are we allowed to have budget concerns?  are we allowed to start with the most abused welfare program in the world?

or should we just shut up and raise taxes again?


The president just told an audience of people that if they are having a hard time paying for insurance they should better budget.   
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: pedro01 on March 13, 2014, 07:59:07 AM
Don't get welfare confused with food stamps.....and quite frankly it is retarded to argue about people eating fish

The problem with welfare systems - food stamps or cash - is they get abused. People that don't need them apply for them, often fraudulently.

And of course, in a PC state, going after them is racist/homophobic/whatever - so the state, which spends a pittance on prosecuting benefits cheats miss out whole sections of the population because of political correctness.

I'm all for helping people that have fallen on bad times - but there have to be limits and severe punishment for cheats.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
The problem with welfare systems - food stamps or cash - is they get abused. People that don't need them apply for them, often fraudulently.

And of course, in a PC state, going after them is racist/homophobic/whatever - so the state, which spends a pittance on prosecuting benefits cheats miss out whole sections of the population because of political correctness.

I'm all for helping people that have fallen on bad times - but there have to be limits and severe punishment for cheats.

i'm a CPA and tax preparer.  and no one knows how right you are more than I do.  sometimes I wonder what the hell i'm doing actually by following the rules and paying my taxes. 

Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 08:07:46 AM
If that's what they can afford.  No one is entitled to luxuries.

ok so now we know fish is a luxury
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 08:08:56 AM
this is such an ignorant statement.  

and once again, the liberal on the board brings up christianity.  

we are trillions of dollars in debt.  Are we allowed to have budget concerns?  are we allowed to start with the most abused welfare program in the world?

or should we just shut up and raise taxes again?


No you should just shoot the poor get rid of all welfare and lower taxes.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2014, 08:11:07 AM
ok so now we know fish is a luxury

Yes it is - ever buy fish lately idiot?  Its expensive.   I know when you are a welfare scammer price is no object since taxpayers are paying for it - but when you pay for it yourself like some of us do - its not cheap.

Welfare cases should get basic provisions like rice beans grain etc in 50lb sacks once every 2 months or so and that's it
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 08:11:56 AM
ok so now we know fish is a luxury

Not all fish is a luxury but if the fish is expensive and prevents a person from buying more food it becomes one.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 08:15:19 AM
Yes it is - ever buy fish lately idiot?  Its expensive.   I know when you are a welfare scammer price is no object since taxpayers are paying for it - but when you pay for it yourself like some of us do - its not cheap.

Welfare cases should get basic provisions like rice beans grain etc in 50lb sacks once every 2 months or so and that's it

come on man how can you name call when you live in a dirty apartment in the slums  :o
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2014, 08:21:00 AM
come on man how can you name call when you live in a dirty apartment in the slums  :o

I moved a year ago fool.  I don't live in the Bronx any more
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
I moved a year ago fool.  I don't live in the Bronx any more

sorry didn't know you got evicted
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 08:43:08 AM
No you should just shoot the poor get rid of all welfare and lower taxes.

this is exactly what we're talking about with your simpleton mind so easily manipulated by sensationalized media. 

you can think of only two options.  give them whatever they want and ask ZERO questions.......or SHOOT them. 

minds like yours are exactly what these campaign managers are after.  they're training you like a pup.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 13, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
this is exactly what we're talking about with your simpleton mind so easily manipulated by sensationalized media. 

you can think of only two options.  give them whatever they want and ask ZERO questions.......or SHOOT them. 

minds like yours are exactly what these campaign managers are after.  they're training you like a pup.



Yes welfare is giving them whatever they want ::)

Why dont you just go on welfare Bear? Its a free ride apparently.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 08:54:50 AM


Yes welfare is giving them whatever they want ::)

Why dont you just go on welfare Bear? Its a free ride apparently.

Helping people down on their luck is a good thing but there must be accountability.  If a person keeps living life irresponsibly and pumping out kids they can't afford the cycle isn't going to be broken.  There is no reason a person should be on welfare for years and years.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: blacken700 on March 13, 2014, 08:54:58 AM
this is exactly what we're talking about with your simpleton mind so easily manipulated by sensationalized media. 

you can think of only two options.  give them whatever they want and ask ZERO questions.......or SHOOT them. 

minds like yours are exactly what these campaign managers are after.  they're training you like a pup.

so are you against them eating fish,that's what this post is about
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: 240 is Back on March 13, 2014, 09:02:06 AM
so their diet should consist of kraft mac and cheese.

i grew up on mach n chz, peas, and tuna patties.  cheap meals right there.

1 can tuna + 1 egg = fries up to be 3 nice tuna patties.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 09:08:49 AM


Yes welfare is giving them whatever they want ::)

Why dont you just go on welfare Bear? Its a free ride apparently.

if you can't understand how badly our welfare system is abused there is no need to discuss this any further.  I personally see this shit on a daily basis at my job. 

"I can't issue 1099's to those guys for the $25,000 I paid them during the year.  They will lose their unemployment" 

"I need to overstate my expenses for my financial aid application so I can live in section 8 housing in a beautiful apartment for $300 a month" 

You don't even fucking live here.  And you pretend to know this shit because why?  because you read it on the internet?  Good lord.

But again, my opinions are based upon real things happening in real life.  your opinions are based upon what you read on the internet.  there's no hope in having a rational discussion with you.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 13, 2014, 11:29:58 AM
this is such an ignorant statement.  

and once again, the liberal on the board brings up christianity.  

we are trillions of dollars in debt.  Are we allowed to have budget concerns?  are we allowed to start with the most abused welfare program in the world?

or should we just shut up and raise taxes again?



The amount of money for government assistance pales in comparison to the generous tax breaks given to corporations that don't even need them to begin with.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 11:32:26 AM

The amount of money for government assistance pales in comparison to the generous tax breaks given to corporations that don't even need them to begin with.

That irrelevant to the conversation.  The number of people on welfare is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 01:37:01 PM

The amount of money for government assistance pales in comparison to the generous tax breaks given to corporations that don't even need them to begin with.

which tax break do you have a problem with?  you have no idea.  you just read that in articles and accept it as truth. 

there ARE problems with our tax code. 

but as a CPA, don't think i'm going to sit here and allow you to say "tax loopholes" and not be specific with a "tax loophole" that you have a problem with. 

a lot of the "tax loophole" articles written by liberal columnists with an agenda are complete and utter bullshit. 

what you choose to call a tax loophole may very well be an absolutely fair part of the tax code. 

so again, which specific "tax loophole" are you against?

Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 13, 2014, 02:18:07 PM
which tax break do you have a problem with?  you have no idea.  you just read that in articles and accept it as truth. 

there ARE problems with our tax code. 

but as a CPA, don't think i'm going to sit here and allow you to say "tax loopholes" and not be specific with a "tax loophole" that you have a problem with. 

a lot of the "tax loophole" articles written by liberal columnists with an agenda are complete and utter bullshit. 

what you choose to call a tax loophole may very well be an absolutely fair part of the tax code. 

so again, which specific "tax loophole" are you against?



Vince getting mauled by a bear.  Probably not the first time.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 13, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
Vince getting mauled by a bear.  Probably not the first time.

That was funny.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 13, 2014, 05:48:17 PM
sometimes I wonder what the hell i'm doing actually by following the rules and paying my taxes. 

We're chumps...
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: bears on March 13, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
We're chumps...

sometimes I think we are.  but once you start doing real aggressive shit on your returns and you do it for a few years in a row, when you have that IRS auditor in front of you, you forget real quickly how nice it was to have that extra money. 

Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
::)
Fish is not a luxury food.

Depends on the fish.   :)
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 14, 2014, 03:03:06 AM
Helping people down on their luck is a good thing but there must be accountability.  If a person keeps living life irresponsibly and pumping out kids they can't afford the cycle isn't going to be broken.  There is no reason a person should be on welfare for years and years.

Of course i dont disagree one bit.
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: whork on March 14, 2014, 03:37:41 AM
if you can't understand how badly our welfare system is abused there is no need to discuss this any further.  I personally see this shit on a daily basis at my job. 

"I can't issue 1099's to those guys for the $25,000 I paid them during the year.  They will lose their unemployment" 

"I need to overstate my expenses for my financial aid application so I can live in section 8 housing in a beautiful apartment for $300 a month" 

You don't even fucking live here.  And you pretend to know this shit because why?  because you read it on the internet?  Good lord.

But again, my opinions are based upon real things happening in real life.  your opinions are based upon what you read on the internet.  there's no hope in having a rational discussion with you.


So why are you not on welfare Bear?
Title: Re: Stewart: Why the Hell Is Fox News So Obsessed with Poor People Eating fish
Post by: Irongrip400 on March 14, 2014, 01:06:56 PM

So why are you not on welfare Bear?

Pride maybe? ???