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I know the rumour has it Luke tried to follow a T3 regime prescribed by Milos and ended up taking 10 time the dose, as he got his dosage mixed up...I find this hard to believe seeing as Luke is a seasoned drug user, even a rookie to drugs knows the difference between different IU's, mg's, ml's, Mcg's...etc. And if the wrong dose was taken, this surely would be picked up in their many catch up's if they went through everything during an assessment, not wait till the dude nearly keeled over with organ failure.
Deadly Relation:
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/08/lw1-1.jpg)
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no .. Luke did it himself. There was a lot more to Luke's use than aas I believe.
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Liquid T3. Very hard to approximate doses, especially when it's in the mcg range.
Live by the thong, die by the thong. Luke knew this going in. He died for us bitches.
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Liquid T3. Very hard to approximate doses, especially when it's in the mcg range.
Live by the thong, die by the thong. Luke knew this going in. He died for us bitches.
dude. you made me laugh so hard with this comment that i sprayed coffee all over my monitor. i'm still laughing as i write this.
LULZ
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dude. you made me laugh so hard with this comment that i sprayed coffee all over my monitor. i'm still laughing as i write this.
LULZ
I'm glad that made your morning. Bodybuilding is a serious schmoe spectacle sport and not many people understand and appreciate this.
The competitors know what they're getting into the moment they draw up their sparkly thongs, rub on that spray tan and make muscles on stage. 8)
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i doubt he fucked up his dosage, and i doubt milos told him to take what eventually killed him.
its the whole bber mentality- this much works this well, so i'll take even more.
a guy who has been fucking around w anabolics, insulin, gh and other peptides for prolly close to 20 years is NOT going to make a mistake dosing t3. lol
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i doubt he fucked up his dosage, and i doubt milos told him to take what eventually killed him.
its the whole bber mentality- this much works this well, so i'll take even more.
a guy who has been fucking around w anabolics, insulin, gh and other peptides for prolly close to 20 years is NOT going to make a mistake dosing t3. lol
I don't think he'll make a newb mistake like taking a ml of insulin when he's thinking he's taking an iu. But UGLs are shitty and there are places in Australia which have sold vials containing lethal doses of arsenic. I just read a study about it that was posted on ergo log I think. I'm at work so I can't reference it, but the bro was a lifetime juicer and just happened to buy some sketchy gear.
I've seen RonnieT post lab assays with fake GH that contained things ranging from rat insulin to other obscure, fake products. They get some extremely sketchy drugs down there. That's why I think he accidentally overdosed in that way. Liquid stuff needs to be mixed up as it gets suspended really shitty and he could have easily had an overdosed batch of T3. In any event, it's really shitty.
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i doubt he fucked up his dosage, and i doubt milos told him to take what eventually killed him.
its the whole bber mentality- this much works this well, so i'll take even more.
a guy who has been fucking around w anabolics, insulin, gh and other peptides for prolly close to 20 years is NOT going to make a mistake dosing t3. lol
I think people don't realize the Nubian, painkillers and rec drugs that also are used :-\
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I think people don't realize the Nubian, painkillers and rec drugs that also are used :-\
yep many i know are addicted to painkillers... they kill your organs
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I know the rumour has it Luke tried to follow a T3 regime prescribed by Milos and ended up taking 10 time the dose, as he got his dosage mixed up...I find this hard to believe seeing as Luke is a seasoned drug user, even a rookie to drugs knows the difference between different IU's, mg's, ml's, Mcg's...etc. And if the wrong dose was taken, this surely would be picked up in their many catch up's if they went through everything during an assessment, not wait till the dude nearly keeled over with organ failure.
Deadly Relation:
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/08/lw1-1.jpg)
yes, it's hard to believe that a seasoned drug user would make a poor choice.
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I don't think he'll make a newb mistake like taking a ml of insulin when he's thinking he's taking an iu. But UGLs are shitty and there are places in Australia which have sold vials containing lethal doses of arsenic. I just read a study about it that was posted on ergo log I think. I'm at work so I can't reference it, but the bro was a lifetime juicer and just happened to buy some sketchy gear.
I've seen RonnieT post lab assays with fake GH that contained things ranging from rat insulin to other obscure, fake products. They get some extremely sketchy drugs down there. That's why I think he accidentally overdosed in that way. Liquid stuff needs to be mixed up as it gets suspended really shitty and he could have easily had an overdosed batch of T3. In any event, it's really shitty.
- if it was an overdosed batch of t3 everyone there using it would have been dropping like flies.
- what he had was t3. not any other kind of fake products, and it was an overdose of t3 that killed him, not any other kind of fake products.
so add those points up and what do you come up with?
then again to calvins point it was kidney failuree that did him in, so who knows what else he was taking. even tylenol is hepatoxic.
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- if it was an overdosed batch of t3 everyone there using it would have been dropping like flies.
- what he had was t3. not any other kind of fake products, and it was an overdose of t3 that killed him, not any other kind of fake products.
so add those points up and what do you come up with?
then again to calvins point it was kidney failuree that did him in, so who knows what else he was taking. even tylenol is hepatoxic.
I don't profess to have all the answers, and no one will ever have the answers unless his stash was raided and tested. But no one's going to those lengths. He simply took too many drugs and his kidney crapped out. And unfortunately, he's neither the first nor last that this will happen to.
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i doubt he fucked up his dosage, and i doubt milos told him to take what eventually killed him.
its the whole bber mentality- this much works this well, so i'll take even more.
a guy who has been fucking around w anabolics, insulin, gh and other peptides for prolly close to 20 years is NOT going to make a mistake dosing t3. lol
I don't know a whole lot about the entire situation, but I did talk to him during that time when he was at Koloseum. He was absolutely shredded and still two weeks out, I asked him if he thought he could hold the conditioning of if he could lose it, then regain it by dropping water. He flat out said to me that he fucked up his dosage and he didn't know what was going to happen. Whatever else was involved, I don't know, but to me he took responsibility for misreading the label.
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Bodybuilding is not a healthy endeavor to say the least and in the end its up to the individual to decide what they consume.
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research t3/t4 is tricky and you can easily fuck up and not realize it till it's too late.
I ended up hospitalized with Thyrotoxic Periodic Paralysis from research t3. took my 9 months and 40lbs of bodyweight before I realized my fuckup.... also cost me $160k. thanks MP/ManpowerResearch ;)
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I don't know a whole lot about the entire situation, but I did talk to him during that time when he was at Koloseum. He was absolutely shredded and still two weeks out, I asked him if he thought he could hold the conditioning of if he could lose it, then regain it by dropping water. He flat out said to me that he fucked up his dosage and he didn't know what was going to happen. Whatever else was involved, I don't know, but to me he took responsibility for misreading the label.
The sad thing is that he was probably more worried about his condition on his next show, rather than his health.
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- if it was an overdosed batch of t3 everyone there using it would have been dropping like flies.
- what he had was t3. not any other kind of fake products, and it was an overdose of t3 that killed him, not any other kind of fake products.
so add those points up and what do you come up with?
then again to calvins point it was kidney failuree that did him in, so who knows what else he was taking. even tylenol is hepatoxic.
you realize hepatoxic refers to the liver, right?
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Liquid T3. Very hard to approximate doses, especially when it's in the mcg range.
Live by the thong, die by the thong. Luke knew this going in. He died for us bitches.
Wise words by a wise man
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Bodybuilding is a narcissistic Beauty Pageant based on extreme empirical data of drug usage.
End of story.
Don't call it a "sport" ~ It doesn't even resemble one.
If you happen to be a Pharmacist and you like to lift weights... well then, you've got the edge, don't you?
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Nasser told me that once (during his early insulin use) that he accidentally took 10 times the insulin he intended to by making a mistake with the the dosage per tenth of cc, but he realized it right after and got very nervous, frantically ate three jars of jam and took some other sugar - he felt fine though and did not go into shock of any sort.
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Nasser told me that once (during his early insulin use) that he accidentally took 10 times the insulin he intended to by making a mistake with the the dosage per tenth of cc, but he realized it right after and got very nervous, frantically ate three jars of jam and took some other sugar - he felt fine though and did not go into shock of any sort.
buddy of mine shot 1cc humulin r iv thinking it was nubain (shot 10iu's of nubain sub q and it burned like hell.. which is how he realized he got the vials mixed up).
started eating as quick as he could and woke up on the couch with an empty pale of ice cream, empty 2L bottle of coke, and 1/2 empty gal of milk on the coffee table. lol
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Live by the thong, die by the thong. Luke knew this going in. He died for us bitches.
insanely funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've watched many bodybuilders transform their depleted physiques in a matter of moments with multiple insulin injections, alcohol and baby food.
Some people here would not believe what they are seeing, others would be like... yup
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I have a hard time beliving the t3 story also
I take 50 mcg per day, and trust me if I even try 100 mcg, it takes maybe... 1 or 2 day since I get so flat that it looks like I barely even train
you see it right away if you take too much of this stuff
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I've watched many bodybuilders transform their depleted physiques in a matter of moments with multiple insulin injections, alcohol and baby food.
Some people here would not believe what they are seeing, others would be like... yup
:)
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I think you would really have to go overboard to OD on T3. I have ran 300mcg for 6 weeks before and other than fatigue and dry nails and hair, I was fine. I know someone who went to 900mcg with liquid T3 to hit a weight class (regional "guru" was coaching him) and he was miserable and could hardly function, but he wasn't hospitalized or anything...and won his class.
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I think you would really have to go overboard to OD on T3. I have ran 300mcg for 6 weeks before and other than fatigue and dry nails and hair, I was fine. I know someone who went to 900mcg with liquid T3 to hit a weight class (regional "guru" was coaching him) and he was miserable and could hardly function, but he wasn't hospitalized or anything...and won his class.
C'mon, it's not like he was just on a bit of T3, a thimble of testosterone and a half a winstrol tablet every fortnight. There's the cumulative damage and the exasperated stress caused by pre-contest conditioning. I don't think anyone believes that T3 alone is the sole reason for him kicking the bucket. It could have been the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, but either way, it was definitely PED abuse that did him in.
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This is what Milos quoted Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
Could be true.
TBM
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This is what Milos quoted Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
Could be true.
TBM
I forgot to add that I got this information from a post Milos made on his own forum, so does that make it a more or less legitimate source?
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I forgot to add that I got this information from a post Milos made on his own forum, so does that make it a more or less legitimate source?
Hi Milos
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Our old friend "Hank Wood" would always bash Luke and warn him to retire or he would die.
Dude was an epic troll but was spot on lol
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This is what Milos quoted Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
didnt know T3 and T4 comes in milligrams.. ???
Could be true.
TBM
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Our old friend "Hank Wood" would always bash Luke and warn him to retire or he would die.
Dude was an epic troll but was spot on lol
haha i remember that
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This is what Milos quoted Luke as taking before the AC 08 show:
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'2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...'
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So Milos said that Luke told him that he took the high doses accidentally, as he thought he was taking 2 x 25 mcg of T3 and 2 x 50/100 mcg of T4. He ended up taking mg (milligrams) instead of mcg (micrograms).
Could be true.
TBM
Who would even make T3 tabs that contain active compound in the mg range? I've seen exactly one UGL put out 200mcg tabs, and even there I believe maybe the source accidentally labelled them T3 rather than T4. What kind of UGL would produce 2.5mg tabs when even the most "hardcore" (retarded) guys max out around 500mcg or something. Sounds stupid. Demand would be 0.
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Who would even make T3 tabs that contain active compound in the mg range? I've seen exactly one UGL put out 200mcg tabs, and even there I believe maybe the source accidentally labelled them T3 rather than T4. What kind of UGL would produce 2.5mg tabs when even the most "hardcore" (retarded) guys max out around 500mcg or something. Sounds stupid. Demand would be 0.
Yeah, I don't see anything being made over 200mcg which is still high as fuck and pretty dangerous. You don't see people manufacturing 4g Tylenol pills and expecting people to split them up or anything. Even a UGL wouldn't go that high.
Oh well, he's dead in any event. It's a shame that he drugged himself to death. It shouldn't go as any surprise. These guys ignore the huge, telltale warnings and still continue with the same reckless abandon.
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yep many i know are addicted to painkillers... they kill your organs
believe it or not opiates themselves r very easy on the organs, its the tylenol that destroys the kidneys imo
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I don't know a whole lot about the entire situation, but I did talk to him during that time when he was at Koloseum. He was absolutely shredded and still two weeks out, I asked him if he thought he could hold the conditioning of if he could lose it, then regain it by dropping water. He flat out said to me that he fucked up his dosage and he didn't know what was going to happen. Whatever else was involved, I don't know, but to me he took responsibility for misreading the label.
Glad you made it out alive
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Luke was a very nice guy and would be deeply missed by his family and friends, and talking about him now that he has passed away is difficult,but I dont think he would want speculation falling negatively on Milos who he was very close with, so I say this with honesty and respect but he regularly upped the dose of what Milos advised, and not just moderately. Luke could have placed a lot higher in some shows, he didnt have the genetics and structure for the very top, but he hurt his placings by self destructing many times by trying something when he didn't need to, with anything including diuretics thyroid etc.