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Title: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 04:19:52 AM
Nothing overboard. I sincerely hope that I don't start spamming the board about my various issues, but if I do, I apologize in advance.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:23:03 AM
What are your stats bro.
You need to run a log. Will be epic and very informational. Probably the first beginner log ever on getbig.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:32:47 AM
What's your cycle look like? Come on dude..you know were gonna ask this suff.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 04:34:02 AM
What are your stats bro.
You need to run a log. Will be epic and very informational. Probably the first beginner log ever on getbig.

48 yo male
6'4" 210. About 12% bf
Maxed out

250mg/week, test e.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:37:42 AM
48 yo male
6'4" 210. About 12% bf
Maxed out

250mg/week, test e.

So im guessing youre not trying to put on much muscle?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 04:43:14 AM
So im guessing youre not trying to put on much muscle?

The Olympia is not on my bucket list. I am a professional and ballooning up would be a problem for me.

That said, I prefer the route of slower and over a long period of time. At this rate, I have 2 years worth of test in my possession.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:48:45 AM
The Olympia is not on my bucket list. I am a professional and ballooning up would be a problem for me.

That said, I prefer the route of slower and over a long period of time. At this rate, I have 2 years worth of test in my possession.

Still dude...250 is upper level trt dosages.

Trust me...you will up the dosage and wish you would have started higher or had run some orals at the beginning. Several people here have went through the exact same thing with this 250 bullshit.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 04:51:12 AM
Still dude...250 is upper level trt dosages.

Trust me...you will up the dosage and wish you would have started higher or had run some orals at the beginning. Several people here have went through the exact same thing with this 250 bullshit.

Says the guy who claims natty???    ::)

Seriously, you need to go forth and muliply.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 04:56:16 AM
Still dude...250 is upper level trt dosages.

Trust me...you will up the dosage and wish you would have started higher or had run some orals at the beginning. Several people here have went through the exact same thing with this 250 bullshit.

My levels suit me fine. I chose this path in careful consultation with those on this board and others in whose opinions I trust. When you are ready for your path, please choose it for yourself. I will not prejudice your decision.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:58:15 AM
My levels suit me fine. I chose this path in careful consultation with those on this board and others in whose opinions I trust. When you are ready for your path, please choose it for yourself. I will not prejudice your decision.

We have different goals. Youre not trying to maximize muscle growth and gains. Youre right. Good luck and best wishes.

  
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
i think you gonna put on 8 kg of size in 12 weeks if you react same way as me


good luck friend

How much of that was true muscle vs water?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 05:00:47 AM
i think you gonna put on 8 kg of size in 12 weeks if you react same way as me


good luck friend

I think you are a great responder to gear. I would be happy with half that.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:02:02 AM
i dont have a dexa machine and it translated into 15,5" arm => 17" arm (shredded of course, flexed and unpumped)

so good enough for me

how much weight did you lose when you went off? I know you went off ...then weren't happy so went back on.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: BigCyp on March 14, 2014, 05:02:40 AM
Wolfox giving advice on steriods  ::)
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 14, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
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Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:04:44 AM
i think you gonna put on 8 kg of size in 12 weeks if you react same way as me


good luck friend

Wanna hear something funny? I remember people putting on 20lbs for their first cycle after only a month of m1t...and keeping 15 after a few weeks post cycle.

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: gracie bjj on March 14, 2014, 05:05:04 AM
i do great on 250 of sust every 7 to 10 days, if i run out of sust i substitute masteron or prop n thats fine also.  u will b feelin great aj in no time
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:07:47 AM
the funny part being that you expect us to believe this right ???

vets here who remember m1t can vouch for its potency. They already have in the aas section.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:09:19 AM
Wanna hear something funny? I remember people putting on 20lbs for their first cycle after only a month of m1t...and keeping 15 after a few weeks post cycle.


Wanna know something else funny, I know a man who walks on the surface of the sun, he only goes at night so he doesnt burn his feet.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:09:38 AM
i wish i would have never come off from first cycle at 300mg


after the off period it's like the body didnt respond the same


first cycle is the best so if you never come off it who knows how freaky you can get off low dose

 ???

lol you blew your first cycle bro. You only get one and you chose pussy trt dosages. I thought you wanted to be a bodybuilder?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:10:44 AM
no matter what you take

after it clears the body, you return to natural form


there is no such thing as "keeping" the gains after coming off ::)



i guess you and steroids don't mix because i know several top level amateurs and pros here in LA who disagree.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:11:58 AM
i guess you and steroids don't mix because i know several top level amateurs and pros here in LA who disagree.

PSST...if they are still the same size after they come off they are still on
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:13:33 AM
right and they are sharing their secrets with some pudgy permabulking virgin whose arms couldnt impress the girls after 12 shots of rum
Perfect.    ;D
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:13:38 AM
what do you know about bodybuilding & steroids in the first place?


arm chair expert at best

i live right next to the mecca of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:14:31 AM
right and they are sharing their secrets with some pudgy permabulking virgin whose arms couldnt impress the girls after 12 shots of rum

Yeah, and im a tongan jew...and you live in Havana.  ::)
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:16:47 AM
Hey halo when you meet these barely legal sluts at the club and bring them home for sex...do you keep your shirt on in the act? You know...with all that bacne you sport.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 05:16:51 AM
i dont have a dexa machine and it translated into 15,5" arm => 17" arm (shredded of course, flexed and unpumped)

so good enough for me

If I could get 1.5" of real size on my arms in a year, I would be over the moon. I have 17" and holding for 10 fucking years.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:20:45 AM
AJ you on legit trt or self medicating?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:25:20 AM
it was the same for me


i was stuck at 15,5" for YEARS YEARS of hard hard training


then a few months of steroidas and bam


you gonna be living the dream


18"+ soon for sure

That's because your diet is shitty. That's why your arms still wont grow and you complain. Steroids don't make up for a shit diet, newb.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:26:24 AM
AJ you on legit trt or self medicating?
Hopeless trolling by wolfox.

You need to start being a little more truthful on here about your experiences.
I hope that bicepless arm of yours isnt the result of steroids, now that would be funny.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:26:55 AM
That's because your diet is shitty. That's why your arms still wont grow and you complain. Steroids don't make up for a shit diet, newb.

How do you know?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:28:28 AM
eating more = getting fat

i have enough fat in the body that could be used for muscle generation if there was enough steroid response


look at arnold and levrone, they get leaner and bigger same time

Someone educate this child  ::)

Youre not levrone or Arnold, dipshit.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:29:50 AM
Someone educate this child  ::)

Youre not levrone or Arnold, dipshit.

Educate him that excess calories equals fat?

OK.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:30:51 AM
Watch Maryland muscle doco...levrone eats like a horse.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: sososue on March 14, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
Watch Maryland muscle doco...levrone eats like a horse.
Straw?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:32:18 AM
Educate him that excess calories equals fat?

OK.

Another dipshit twink.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:35:33 AM
Funny how halo complains about his lack or steronz results but here he thinks he knows it all  ::)

Im gonna call him slaphead from now on like the gypsy.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:39:06 AM
ha ok so if i overeat i wont get fat but muscular

thanks

So you believe you can undereat and gain lots of muscle?
.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 14, 2014, 05:41:49 AM
Ok enough trolling for tonight. Sorry AJ for ruining your thread. Seriously brother, think about starting a log in the AAS subforum.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 07:15:30 AM
Ok enough trolling for tonight. Sorry AJ for ruining your thread. Seriously brother, think about starting a log in the AAS subforum.

It's all good, mon frere.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 14, 2014, 07:33:09 AM
Ok enough trolling for tonight. Sorry AJ for ruining your thread. Seriously brother, think about starting a log in the AAS subforum.

Yeah, but you keep doing this to good posters ??? First "millenium man" and now "aj". Please stop

That being said, you're doing a great thing for yourself, aj.  You keep such a strict diet that I'm sure you'll look fantastic.  Plus, at 48 you don't wanna take any chances health-wise

Does your wife know?

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 08:04:07 AM

Does your wife know?


*shuffles feet*

Not yet. Although she's a typical libertarian on these issues, I feel it is probably for the best to keep in on the DL for now.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 14, 2014, 08:08:51 AM
*shuffles feet*

Not yet. Although she's a typical libertarian on these issues, I feel it is probably for the best to keep in on the DL for now.

Haha my man!  Just think of how you'll approach the topic when she asks, because it'll be noticeable at some point
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 08:11:46 AM
Haha my man!  Just think of how you'll approach the topic when she asks, because it'll be noticeable at some point

I am hoping that the dose is low enough that she won't notice. Probably wishful thinking. I will just claim TRT at that point.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: syntaxmachine on March 14, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
If I could get 1.5" of real size on my arms in a year, I would be over the moon. I have 17" and holding for 10 fucking years.

The manlets will laugh at your mascular gains, just like they laughed at your attempt(s) to keep up with them on pushups/pullups when you were in the service.

I wish you the best though
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 02:49:51 AM
At 48, 250 mgs a week of underdosed UGL test will get u back to where your natural levels were at 40. Hopefully u didn't look like shit then.

Those were the days...
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Henda on March 15, 2014, 02:57:08 AM
Congrats man give it a few weeks and you will wish you had started years ago.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Lustral on March 15, 2014, 03:03:30 AM
Good luck man, just remember why you started and don't get seduced by any new size into upping dosage too much.

You're 48 so guessing you've your head screwed on right.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 03:16:42 AM
Good luck man, just remember why you started and don't get seduced by any new size into upping dosage too much.

You're 48 so guessing you've your head screwed on right.

Thanks. I've got a lot to lose if I fuck it up, so yeah. Not gonna go anywhere fast.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 03:28:03 AM
If I could get 1.5" of real size on my arms in a year, I would be over the moon. I have 17" and holding for 10 fucking years.
will be there in 6months, guaranteed.

dont listen to wolfo on first cycle blabls he hasnt got the slightest idea.
h
halo was at 250-500-750,he can tell first hand

just dont come off, coming off all steroid gains will be gone.can skip a shot if the water is too much,for etra"leans",but yeah.

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 03:30:34 AM
How do you know?
gear will punish you for bad diet.but halos diet is cleaner than mine,hes shredded enough year round non stop
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: bigmc on March 15, 2014, 03:34:36 AM
gear will punish you for bad diet.but halos diet is cleaner than mine,hes shredded enough year round non stop

truth

most people dont know this
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 04:53:52 AM
At 48, 250 mgs a week of underdosed UGL test will get u back to where your natural levels were at 40. Hopefully u didn't look like shit then.
Nonsense, natty and 250mgs of test is a world of difference at any age.
You don't produce 250mgs a week of test naturally at 40 years old FFS.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 05:04:48 AM
Nonsense, natty and 250mgs of test is a world of difference at any age.
You don't produce 250mgs a week of test naturally at 40 years old FFS.

Yeah. I didn't feel like arguing the point.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:09:27 AM
Fair enough, come back in 6 months and tell us you've noticed a dramatic change in your physique on 250 a week.
I notice a huge difference on 250mgs a week to 10 days.

What do you take?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: SuperTed on March 15, 2014, 05:10:15 AM
250mg is like 4 or 5 times your natural T production.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:11:47 AM
I'm natural.

How old r u?

Lets not make this a game of fucking table tennis postings.
Have you ever used gear?

Im coming up to 49 soon.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:14:00 AM
At 48, 250 mgs a week of underdosed UGL test will get u back to where your natural levels were at 40. Hopefully u didn't look like shit then.

So when you wrote that you were wrong or were you saying if he gets duff gear it wont work?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: SuperTed on March 15, 2014, 05:17:37 AM
This is true as far as legit pharma test is concerned. Even then, doesn't mean you're going to see truly noticeable gains on this dosage.

This is the dose I would use if I ever start using. If its good quality Test than it should definitely make a noticeable difference, especially when you're at single digit BF.
Obviously it won't be enough to make you huge, but it should be enough to give your muscles more fullness and density.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:19:27 AM
My point is, at 250 a week, w/ nothing else, you're not going to look like a bodybuilder at 48. U may get a little leaner and thicker but nothing truly noticeable. Add in something else and then u may start to see a real difference.

Really?
I have stood onstage and won shows on 750mgs.
I look like a bodybuilder now at 48 on 250mgs every week to 10 days.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:22:37 AM
U must have good genetics. I doubt u have a 6'4" frame to try and fill out like the OP does.

So its gone from "not going to happen" to "it depends on your genetics"?

You still havent said if you have ever used gear by the way.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:26:08 AM
I wish the OP the best of luck. Let's see what happens if he carries this out.
Bye now.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 05:43:23 AM
U must have good genetics. I doubt u have a 6'4" frame to try and fill out like the OP does.
nah man its realy just a matter of permanently being on atleast 250 weekly for years and year,with bit blasting eithe rgear or cals here and there.

i know 6ft 4ppl who are huongous size, barndoor shoulders, they run 250test most of the time.

the ugl test is in most cases legit,all oyther products im bit sceptical,yeah.

filling out a frame is bit misleading term, there realy is only filling up a muscle.

he will have 1inch gain on arms and be leaner in 3-4months i think.

just make sure to have that cheat meal once in a while, and you know the rest about diet

heres someone at the very start of things, if hed do 250 or 500mg of a long ester for 2-3 months like many do and then come off, his plans would be doomed from the getgo.

if he stays on that,just 250, hes at a stage where he will make continuous gains for 1 year.

he will soon know whether the gear is legit, 1 week or so in and the pumps will seem insane compared to natural ;D
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:45:41 AM
nah man its realy just a matter of permanently being on atleast 250 weekly for years and year,with bit blasting eithe rgear or cals here and there.

i know 6ft 4ppl who are huongous size, barndoor shoulders, they run 250test most of the time.

the ugl test is in most cases legit,all oyther products im bit sceptical,yeah.

filling out a frame is bit misleading term, there realy is only filling up a muscle.

he will have 1inch gain on arms and be leaner in 3-4months i think.

just make sure to have that cheat meal once in a while, and you know the rest about diet

heres someone at the very start of things, if hed do 250 or 500mg of a long ester for 2-3 months like many do and then come off, his plans would be doomed from the getgo.

if he stays on that,just 250, hes at a stage where he will make continuous gains for 1 year.

he will soon know whether the gear is legit, 1 week or so in and the pumps will seem insane compared to natural ;D

QFT

Its great when someone comments who speaks from experience.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 05:48:33 AM
250mg is like 4 or 5 times your natural T production.
rather 6-8times

hes not a 20yr old mullatto
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 05:58:27 AM
and age is kinda "Only" a factor of joints and tendons not being like 20 year old.

hormonal enviroment is set.

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 05:59:35 AM
and age is kinda "Only" a factor of joints and tendons not being like 20 year old.

hormonal enviroment is set.


Agreed, I look better than most 20 year old juicers in our gym, and they take Wayyyy….more than me.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Henda on March 15, 2014, 06:32:32 AM
nah man its realy just a matter of permanently being on atleast 250 weekly for years and year,with bit blasting eithe rgear or cals here and there.

i know 6ft 4ppl who are huongous size, barndoor shoulders, they run 250test most of the time.

the ugl test is in most cases legit,all oyther products im bit sceptical,yeah.

filling out a frame is bit misleading term, there realy is only filling up a muscle.

he will have 1inch gain on arms and be leaner in 3-4months i think.

just make sure to have that cheat meal once in a while, and you know the rest about diet

heres someone at the very start of things, if hed do 250 or 500mg of a long ester for 2-3 months like many do and then come off, his plans would be doomed from the getgo.

if he stays on that,just 250, hes at a stage where he will make continuous gains for 1 year.

he will soon know whether the gear is legit, 1 week or so in and the pumps will seem insane compared to natural ;D

this was first thing i noticed, muscles were still pumped hours later after workin out.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 06:46:01 AM
Fair enough, come back in 6 months and tell us you've noticed a dramatic change in your physique on 250 a week.

You probably missed the point where I mentioned that I specifically don't want a "dramatic change."
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Simple Simon on March 15, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
You probably missed the point where I mentioned that I specifically don't want a "dramatic change."
I wouldn't worry about him, he doesn't have a fucking clue what hes talking about.
Its like asking someone who has never skydived how does it feel to skydive.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 06:56:55 AM
I wouldn't worry about him, he doesn't have a fucking clue what hes talking about.
Its like asking someone who has never skydived how does it feel to skydive.

Yeah.

The thing is I look pretty decent for my age, especially at 48. Of course nowhere near the bejeweled thong wearers on GB. I had just reached a point where I was physically unable to dial up the intensity and I wanted to still see change. I tried every fucking legal supplement in the world, but they don't move the needle.

So here I am. Day 2 with a still somewhat sore glute, mildly entertained by GB, hoping that my gear isn't under dosed or bunk and still mildly amazed that I didn't even flinch with the 23g 1.5" pin when the time came.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Rhomboids on March 15, 2014, 07:03:08 AM
Nothing overboard. I sincerely hope that I don't start spamming the board about my various issues, but if I do, I apologize in advance.

I'm ready to do the same after 20 yrs training naturally.  I never got my lifetime achievement trophy from society so wtf am I doing it for?  I got tons of aches and pains and no time for six meals a day and eight hours of sleep so I need all the help I can get.

Not gonna do anything crazy just wanna get my hands on something pill form. I'll never inject myself that would creep me out. 

I'm a noob on this if someone wants to point me to a source through pms...
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 07:07:11 AM
I'm ready to do the same after 20 yrs training naturally.  I never got my lifetime achievement trophy from society so wtf am I doing it for?  I got tons of aches and pains and no time for six meals a day and eight hours of sleep so I need all the help I can get.

Not gonna do anything crazy just wanna get my hands on something pill form. I'll never inject myself that would creep me out. 

I'm a noob on this if someone wants to point me to a source through pms...

I started right where you are. Eventually, I rejected an all-oral cycle for "enhanced TRT". With one whole self-injection under my belt, I can say it isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 08:21:10 AM
Also, it feels great to stop taking all those stupid supplements. No more DAA, ZMA and creatine for me. Just fish oil, vitamin D and protein powder as needed
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 09:02:59 AM
You probably missed the point where I mentioned that I specifically don't want a "dramatic change."
nono man, you go into this with a wild mindset,wanting it all, just keep it safe enough to not get injured.

what i mean, you try the very best to get the dramatic change, then therell be the results.

the chaange as far training goes has to be quite dramatic, when im off supps, half the sets and about half the traning frequency leave me something like 3 times longer sore.

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: _aj_ on March 15, 2014, 09:12:07 AM
nono man, you go into this with a wild mindset,wanting it all, just keep it safe enough to not get injured.

what i mean, you try the very best to get the dramatic change, then therell be the results.

the chaange as far training goes has to be quite dramatic, when im off supps, half the sets and about half the traning frequency leave me something like 3 times longer sore.



Point taken. I am not going into it lightly. I have the diet and the training volume already. Looking forward to making that food and effort mean something.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: galeniko on March 15, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
true, i was on 750 only 4 weeks maybe too early to tell but definitely 500 doessnt do anything more than 300 and 750 for a month also not noticing anything
yeah would if inc cals, but .

would get too fat and waterloged.

slight increase of cals over time will do same thing.

theresalways a dosage and cal ratio where one starts to get fat.

after years nonstop 300weely and bit other compound at time will give good enough physiq.incease dosage when not needed will not

the amount muscle we have is easy maintained on that
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: The Onion on March 15, 2014, 02:27:44 PM
i dont think so

when i increased to 500 and 750 it didnt make difference

you are gonna get the same gains or better, i mean at least the same gains, also you are taller and more bones

you gonna get all the girls now and life will be a fantasy

(serious^^)
You're talking about black girls right, like Lobstah?

Do anyone know what dosages and/or arm sizes that correlates to other types of "races".

Will asian girls settle for creatine?
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 15, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
thai girls equally love a juiced up guy in my experience

Oddly no superior white ladies in yours life ? what could be wrong ? your face/slim wallet/personality  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 15, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Also, it feels great to stop taking all those stupid supplements. No more DAA, ZMA and creatine for me. Just fish oil, vitamin D and protein powder as needed

Amen.
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: Wolfox on March 15, 2014, 11:44:03 PM
Also, it feels great to stop taking all those stupid supplements. No more DAA, ZMA and creatine for me. Just fish oil, vitamin D and protein powder as needed

Major sacrifices there to win  8)
Title: Re: Came over to the dark side today
Post by: NightTrain on March 15, 2014, 11:53:46 PM
Wolfox giving advice on steriods  ::)

BigSceptre (of peacyMeat), Are you saying that WolvesDownCocks is better equipped to comment on "boy's club" glory hole needle insertions and that anything involving gluteus maximus and "something sharp" nearby means something totally different to "him"?