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100% drug built physique. He could grow his calves by walking on a beach.
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When you are on drugs and have incredible genes any kind of training in the gym will make you grow, but for the average dude compound movements within the 6 to 8 rep range should make up the base of your workout.
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When you are on drugs and have incredible genes any kind of training in the gym will make you grow, but for the average dude compound movements within the 6 to 8 rep range should make up the base of your workout.
Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
How little you know...
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
You obviously havent met some elite powerlifters. 5 reps is enough to stimulate growth
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How little you know...
Haha, really?
I did the whole 6-8 thing for about 15 years with shitloads of strength and very little size to show for it.
I've gained more pure muscle size in the last two years training with 12-15 rep sets than I did in 10 years the old way.
Most powerlifters look like shit, yes there are exceptions, but a lot of their strength comes from having the extra fat.
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You obviously havent met some elite powerlifters. 5 reps is enough to stimulate growth
That's the exception, not the rule. Some lifters do benefit from lower reps and gaining size on that, but it's probably genetic based on the higher proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibres they possess - you're average gym lifter doesn't have that make-up and it required to use higher reps to tear down all available muscle fibres for stimulation.
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You obviously havent met some elite powerlifters. 5 reps is enough to stimulate growth
ahhh yes because "elite" powerlifters never go above 5 reps
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ahhh yes because "elite" powerlifters never go above 5 reps
Claymore's counting in the dumbbell video is so godamn annoying lol...Sounds like a meth tweaker trying to count and can't go slow enough rofl...
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Claymore's counting in the dumbbell video is so godamn annoying lol...Sounds like a meth tweaker trying to count and can't go slow enough rofl...
Spoto is just ridiculous!
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ahhh yes because "elite" powerlifters never go above 5 reps
how often do you think these guys do this type of training?
world class olympic weightlifters...The muscles they do focus on are very thick . I thought you had an olympic lifting background? you of anyone should know.
tom prince was known for his hamstrings, he said he never went above 6 reps for any hamstring movement. .
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Excellent video, sev. Vince Taylor is probably the only pro that I would pay to train with. His approach to training is unconventional yet effective. I'm sure he's got plenty of great ideas
The way he uses the hammer strength machines in part one is maybe the best way to isolate the lats
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how often do you think these gus Do this type of training?
world class olympic weightlifters...The muscles they do focus on are very thick . I thought you had an olympic lifting background? you of anyone should know.
tom prince was known for his hamstrings, he said he never went above 6 reps for any hamstring movement. .
only one time for the video ;)
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
You are wrong, you can add some isolation work with cables and machine in the 10 to 15 rep range but that should never be the base of your workout, size and strength goes hand in hand, looking like a power lifter or bodybuilder has more to do with the diet and less with the training.
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You are wrong, you can add some isolation work with cables and machine in the 10 to 15 rep range but that should never be the base of your workout, size and strength goes hand in hand, looking like a power lifter or bodybuilder has more to do with the diet and less with the training.
Wrong
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You are wrong, you can add some isolation work with cables and machine in the 10 to 15 rep range but that should never be the base of your workout, size and strength goes hand in hand, looking like a power lifter or bodybuilder has more to do with the diet and less with the training.
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Excellent video, sev. Vince Taylor is probably the only pro that I would pay to train with. His approach to training is unconventional yet effective. I'm sure he's got plenty of great ideas
The way he uses the hammer strength machines in part one is maybe the best way to isolate the lats
He understands how to isolate and feel the muscle which in turns translates to proper stimulation. I learned from watching him train to warm up then crescendo the rythm to a steady pace to be maintained throughout the workout. It took me a few years to getit
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
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This place is like bbing.com sometimes.
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Spoto is just ridiculous!
Insanely, crazily fucking strong guy. I won't be surprised if he takes the record to 750
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Took me a while to learn that Muscle size and muscle strength aren't as related as I thought. As far as I'm concerned if I can grow my arms by curling 20 pounds, I would take that over being able to sling around heavy weight and my arms not growing at all.. plus fucking up my joints in the process just to impress people ::)
I agree a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle - but only to a point. I've seen plenty of bodybuilders like this who trained lighter, and were not as strong at all, as you would assume by looking at them.. Often these guys get ragged on here. But really, if you are a competitive bodybuilder, it's irrelevant.
Sure drugs play a part but Vince is training smart, Anyway why not just keep adding weight and getting stronger in the hypertrophy range? (using perfect form - contractions/slow negs etc ) Ive learned you still grow training like this (and is far safer and won't be as traumatic to your joints and connective tissues as you get older)
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He understands how to isolate and feel the muscle which in turns translates to proper stimulation. I learned from watching him train to warm up then crescendo the rythm to a steady pace to be maintained throughout the workout. It took me a few years to getit
Great point about the rhythm/pace, I honestly never considered that.
He's so "in the zone" he just goes purely by feel, never counting reps but just keeping a steady pace until achieving the desired sensation in the muscle. Truly a master of his body
I usually try to maintain a slow negative part of the rep when lifting, but it's not really possible to keep a "rhythm" by doing so....Vince doesn't seem to worry about the negative at all. Do you think it's important to keep the negative slow or does that not matter
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
the contracted position isnt eh position that makes it grow. the position where its strongest, and handles the most force, is the sweet spot.
and when i say force, i mean amount of work in a certain time..
so for biceps its easy, its the mid point in a curl- thats when the weight has the greatest force, AND when the biceps is strongest.
for pecs, its just past half way for most people, the point where the elbows are the greatest distance from the body but not lower than the body (thats when its mechanically disadvantageous).
free weight flyes are only stimulating for about 1/3 of its range..the other 2/3 the weight is either above you, or bringing your elbows below you.. pretty useless exercise really.
why would anyone want to spend their energy on portions of a rep that arent useful?..
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Great point about the rhythm/pace, I honestly never considered that.
He's so "in the zone" he just goes purely by feel, never counting reps but just keeping a steady pace until achieving the desired sensation in the muscle. Truly a master of his body
I usually try to maintain a slow negative part of the rep when lifting, but it's not really possible to keep a "rhythm" by doing so....Vince doesn't seem to worry about the negative at all. Do you think it's important to keep the negative slow or does that not matter
Exactly! You are a smart guy. Never count anything.. just look for what it feels like.
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This is the same saying a 100m sprinter do the same kind of train of a marathonist... Both run for sure but the training principles have nothing in comon...
Different goals. Resistance vs accelaration...
Bodybuilding the goal is grow your muscles. Powerlifting lifting the much weight you can.
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This is also why this guy never had any training injuries.
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This is also why this guy never had any training injuries.
EXCEPT HIS EYE LOL...92MRO
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EXCEPT HIS EYE LOL...92MRO
Haha i thought the patch made him look cool
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Took me a while to learn that Muscle size and muscle strength aren't as related as I thought. As far as I'm concerned if I can grow my arms by curling 20 pounds, I would take that over being able to sling around heavy weight and my arms not growing at all.. plus fucking up my joints in the process just to impress people ::)
I agree a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle - but only to a point. I've seen plenty of bodybuilders like this who trained lighter, and were not as strong at all, as you would assume by looking at them.. Often these guys get ragged on here. But really, if you are a competitive bodybuilder, it's irrelevant.
Sure drugs play a part but Vince is training smart, Anyway why not just keep adding weight and getting stronger in the hypertrophy range? (using perfect form - contractions/slow negs etc ) Ive learned you still grow training like this (and is far safer and won't be as traumatic to your joints and connective tissues as you get older)
excellent post.......I agree with your sentiments!!! very true!!!
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Wrong
I give up you stubborn guys can stay on your lazy machine workouts looking like shit, smart people with common sense will use free weight to build a proper physique. then when you see people who train properly and look good you accuse them of being on steroids to feel better.
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I give up you stubborn guys can stay on your lazy machine workouts looking like shit, smart people with common sense will use free weight to build a proper physique.
go stick it up your ass.......nothing wrong with machines.......hammer... ..icarian.......flex.... ..bodymasters......all extremely fine lines of equipment.......blend that in with barbells and dumbbells and you have a complete routine!!!!!
you my friend are stubborn!!!!
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go stick it up your ass.......nothing wrong with machines.......hammer... ..icarian.......flex.... ..bodymasters......all extremely fine lines of equipment.......blend that in with barbells and dumbbells and you have a complete routine!!!!!
you my friend are stubborn!!!!
A skinny geek who wants to getbig so he did power lifting training, this proves my theory.
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barbells and dbs and machines......all contribute equally to a great physique......period.... . paragraph!!!
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A skinny geek who wants to getbig so he did power lifting training, this proves my theory.
Anyone else not surprised this raging homo has such quick access to videos of shirtless young men? Maybe he'll "accidenty" end up in another gay bar this weekend. Fucking nut rubbing assfondling manlover.
Your posts all suck, except 3, maybe 4.
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barbells and dbs and machines......all contribute equally to a great physique......period.... . paragraph!!!
I agree, my point is free weights should be the foundation of your workout you can always add in cables and machines, when you look at guys like ronnie and arnold two of the all time greats you dont see these guys moving like a lazy ass from machine to machine they go hardcore with free weights.
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
How the fuck am I supposed to ego lift doing shit like that?
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I agree, my point is free weights should be the foundation of your workout you can always add in cables and machines, when you look at guys like ronnie and arnold two of the all time greats you dont see these guys moving like a lazy ass from machine to machine they go hardcore with free weights.
dorian.... Ronnie.....strydom...... world harris......and countless others have used machines along with free weights.......dorian used plenty of hammer machines......your earlier posts talk of free weight only training......make up your mind already!
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I agree, my point is free weights should be the foundation of your workout you can always add in cables and machines, when you look at guys like ronnie and arnold two of the all time greats you dont see these guys moving like a lazy ass from machine to machine they go hardcore with free weights.
While I get your point and personally use/prefer free weights almost exclusively, I've seen plenty of examples that support the machine crowd. Dillett is the first one I think of, but there's plenty of others.
I think for aesthetic purposes, resistance is resistance, and then genetics take over.
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dorian.... Ronnie.....strydom...... world harris......and countless others have used machines along with free weights.......dorian used plenty of hammer machines......your earlier posts talk of free weight only training......make up your mind already!
Jesus cant you read I said free weights should be the foundation of your workout you can use cables and machine to isolate or to mix it up but free weights should be your base.
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Jesus cant you read I said free weights should be the foundation of your workout you can use cables and machine to isolate or to mix it up but free weights should be your base.
you started in with the whole lazy machine workout bull shit!!!!
you are back pedaling like crazy......
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This is also why this guy never had any training injuries.
he tore his bicep tendon doing a 8 lb dumbbell curl back in about 89
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This is also why this guy never had any training injuries.
bicep and/or tricep tears
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Vince Taylor?
Awesome. Always has been, always will be. Not so sure about those new gadgets he's selling, though...powerballz, something like that.
But Vince Taylor?
Awesome.
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the contracted position isnt eh position that makes it grow. the position where its strongest, and handles the most force, is the sweet spot.
and when i say force, i mean amount of work in a certain time..
so for biceps its easy, its the mid point in a curl- thats when the weight has the greatest force, AND when the biceps is strongest.
for pecs, its just past half way for most people, the point where the elbows are the greatest distance from the body but not lower than the body (thats when its mechanically disadvantageous).
free weight flyes are only stimulating for about 1/3 of its range..the other 2/3 the weight is either above you, or bringing your elbows below you.. pretty useless exercise really.
why would anyone want to spend their energy on portions of a rep that arent useful?..
I never said that the contracted position is the position that makes it grow the most.
What stimulates the most growth is a combination of all three parts of the rep - positive, negative, and static keeping the muscle under tension at all times throughout the course of the rep. Full range of motion.
The positive is actually the weakest part of the rep, then the static, and the negative is where the muscle is strongest. If you're doing bench presses say, it's a lot easier to lower the weight under control than press it back up. Your positive will fail long before the negative but that doesn't mean that the muscle is adequately stimulated, all it means is that you've reached failure on the positive.
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This is also why this guy never had any training injuries.
He once tore his bicep completely off the tendon doing curls backstage at a show warming up with a 20lb dumbell.
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He once tore his bicep completely off the tendon doing curls backstage at a show warming up with a 20lb dumbell.
;D And thus the thread ended!
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He is not as strong as dj181.
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Vince Taylor has quite a resume...
2007 Arnold Classic, 10th
2007 Australian Pro, 3rd
2006 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2006 Australian Pro - 3rd
2002 Masters Olympia - 2nd
2001 Masters Olympia - 1st
2000 Masters Olympia - 1st
1999 Masters Olympia - IFBB, 1st
1999 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Masters, 1st
1998 Masters Arnold - IFBB, Winner
1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 8th
1997 Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Overall Winner
1997 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Masters 40+, 1st
1996 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 3rd
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Winner
1996 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB, Winner
1995 Houston Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1995 Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th
1994 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1993 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1993 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1993 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1992 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1991 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Grand Prix Denmark - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1991 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
1991 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1989 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 4th
1989 Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
1989 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1988 Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
1988 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
1987 Mr America - AAU, Medium, 1st
1987 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 4th
1983 Mr. Berlin Heavy Weight - 1st
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Pro BB have big muscles because they inject oil and various other fluids into them.
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
Good post, imo... I train exactly like this, especially for arms, calves, shoulders and upper legs, always between 10-20 reps, squeezing and doing slow negative, best form possible... For back and chest i usually do 1 or 2 heavy exercises with few reps for a start... Being natural, this kind of training worked great for me, both strenght and size increased, i'm probably a good volume responder, who knows...
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Good post, imo... I train exactly like this, especially for arms, calves, shoulders and upper legs, always between 10-20 reps, squeezing and doing slow negative, best form possible... For back and chest i usually do 1 or 2 heavy exercises with few reps for a start... Being natural, this kind of training worked great for me, both strenght and size increased, i'm probably a good volume responder, who knows...
You guys who train in higher rep/strict form fashion - do you maintain the same weight across all of your sets, or do you reduce it as you go on, so as to keep the reps within that range?
Reason I ask is that I've tried the lighter, higher rep stuff on a few occasions, using a weight where I get maybe 16 or 17 reps first set, rest a minute or so, try again and maybe only get 11 or 12 reps, then rest and a final set where I'm lucky to hit 8 or 10.
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Why not a happy medium?
Work up to two heavy 6 rep sets, then drop back to two 10-12 rep sets.
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Vince Taylor has quite a resume...
holyshit
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Vince Taylor has quite a resume...
2007 Arnold Classic, 10th
2007 Australian Pro, 3rd
2006 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2006 Australian Pro - 3rd
2002 Masters Olympia - 2nd
2001 Masters Olympia - 1st
2000 Masters Olympia - 1st
1999 Masters Olympia - IFBB, 1st
1999 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Masters, 1st
1998 Masters Arnold - IFBB, Winner
1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 8th
1997 Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Overall Winner
1997 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Masters 40+, 1st
1996 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 3rd
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Winner
1996 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB, Winner
1995 Houston Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1995 Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th
1994 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1993 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1993 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1993 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1992 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1991 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Grand Prix Denmark - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1991 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
1991 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1989 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 4th
1989 Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
1989 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1988 Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
1988 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
1987 Mr America - AAU, Medium, 1st
1987 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 4th
1983 Mr. Berlin Heavy Weight - 1st
It was said that the Master's Olympia was created to help give Lou Ferrigno a Olympia title, but Robby Robinson won...and then later in Vince Taylor kept on winning until Don Youngblood beat him. And Don died...
And I think the Masters O eventually petered out as well.
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You guys who train in higher rep/strict form fashion - do you maintain the same weight across all of your sets, or do you reduce it as you go on, so as to keep the reps within that range?
Reason I ask is that I've tried the lighter, higher rep stuff on a few occasions, using a weight where I get maybe 16 or 17 reps first set, rest a minute or so, try again and maybe only get 11 or 12 reps, then rest and a final set where I'm lucky to hit 8 or 10.
Yes, usually i start with the most weight, decreasing until final set... I also try to vary a bit, maybe doing the first set lighter and the second heavier, rarely i also do what you wrote, keeping the same weight for all sets, obviously decreasing with reps... As i said, this kind of volume training works great for me and i use it on arms, shoulders, calves and upper legs... Obviously i never do my max possible with those bodyparts, around 60-70% of max weight... The only bodyparts that i train really heavy with few reps are pecs and back, first and sometimes second excercise, and first exercise only for shoulders...
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Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.
Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).
6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.
100% agreed... except for the squeezing part... Keeping the reps fluent and just going to failure in a normal fashion within the hypertrophy rep range of 10-15 reps is the way to go.
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100% agreed... except for the squeezing part... Keeping the reps fluent and just going to failure in a normal fashion within the hypertrophy rep range of 10-15 reps is the way to go.
I think mixing both the fluent reps and the second-half second squeezing can be a good combination...