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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Submissionfytr on March 29, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
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Cutler stole one victory from Ronnie and proceeds to act like "I finally surpassed him," as if he's better then or at anytime in how career than a prime Coleman. History will always view Cutler as a fill in during bleak years and never a dominant champion. In MD, Dr. Colker in his column referred to Cutler as a "de-evolution," in Olympia physiques. Coleman always beats Cutler and even Heath now far superior, Cutler retiring is no consequence for the record books.
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Cutler stole one victory from Ronnie and proceeds to act like "I finally surpassed him," as if he's better then or at anytime in how career than a prime Coleman. History will always view Cutler as a fill in during bleak years and never a dominant champion. In MD, Dr. Colker in his column referred to Cutler as a "de-evolution," in Olympia physiques. Coleman always beats Cutler and even Heath now far superior, Cutler retiring is no consequence for the record books.
Doctor Who?
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"Dr." Colker. He has a phd in schmoeology.
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Jay Cutler really impressed me with his 2009 comeback. Other than that he's in the list of people who should have retired a few years before they did including branch warren, king kamali, etc. Can't wait till someone dethrones that punk bitch Phul Cheat >:(
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Jay has lived a good life.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528138.0;attach=559658;image)
energy band and a twisted hat ::)
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Jay's in touch with the youth of today. That's why he's so wildly popular. Teenagers see Jay with the spiky fauxhawk and listening to rap music while wearing sweat pants to meetings and they can really relate.
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Jay's in touch with the youth of today. That's why he's so wildly popular. Teenagers see Jay with the spiky fauxhawk and listening to rap music while wearing sweat pants to meetings and they can really relate.
;D
You're outta control Rob. lol
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cutler looked good but no veins in the arms
looked like oil bags for that reason
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Don't forget what Jay was because of what he became:
(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/attachments/kilpailijat-ja-bodyjuorut/96520d1363689929-jay-cutler-untitled-31.jpg)
Yes he was better than Ronnie in 2001:
(http://i.imgur.com/OIcOy.jpg)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/02/6eer6g-1.jpg)
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Don't forget what Jay was because of what he became:
(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/attachments/kilpailijat-ja-bodyjuorut/96520d1363689929-jay-cutler-untitled-31.jpg)
Yes he was better than Ronnie in 2001:
(http://i.imgur.com/OIcOy.jpg)
(http://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/02/6eer6g-1.jpg)
great but back not even close to RC
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great but back not even close to RC
I forgot how good he looked though.
He will live longer than ronnie :'(
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Man, Getbig goes to sleep early on the weekend.
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great but back not even close to RC
Not better than Ronnie's best, but better than he was in 2001.
The "sport" is fucked up because guys spend the beginning of their careers, when they look best, getting screwed over in favor of some guy on the way down. Then they spend a brief period deservedly at the top then they get to enjoy being the guy getting the undeserved wins. The problem is it encourages them to drag it out and tarnish their legacies with subpar showings that basically make everybody forget what they did to get to the top. This is pretty well illustrated by vizualize perfection's comment.
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Not better than Ronnie's best, but better than he was in 2001.
The "sport" is fucked up because guys spend the beginning of their careers, when they look best, getting screwed over in favor of some guy on the way down. Then they spend a brief period deservedly at the top then they get to enjoy being the guy getting the undeserved wins. The problem is it encourages them to drag it out and tarnish their legacies with subpar showings that basically make everybody forget what they did to get to the top. This is pretty well illustrated by vizualize perfection's comment.
ahahaha yes it seems that way
fucked sport
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It seems like bodybuilding has a several year delay. Meaning Jay Cutler probably peaked around 2001 or so but wasn't rewarded till what 2008? Same with Wolf, a few years back he looked amazing and got shit placings, now he has gone down hill a little (but still better than the other shit out there) and is getting better places.
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240 looks like u hit 240 with big ol jay...
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Cutler stole one victory from Ronnie and proceeds to act like "I finally surpassed him," as if he's better then or at anytime in how career than a prime Coleman. History will always view Cutler as a fill in during bleak years and never a dominant champion. In MD, Dr. Colker in his column referred to Cutler as a "de-evolution," in Olympia physiques. Coleman always beats Cutler and even Heath now far superior, Cutler retiring is no consequence for the record books.
I was thinking the same thing this morning.
Wait, no I wasn't. Like ever.
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Lol @ jays refression from suit wearing dedicated husband to 40yr old mid life crisis sideways hat single dbag.
must be all the fitness sluts influence hes around all the time.
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(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/what/grand/Soon-what-6bb61e3b7bce0931da574d19d1d82c88-2079.gif)
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(http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/what/grand/Soon-what-6bb61e3b7bce0931da574d19d1d82c88-2079.gif)
seems to have a touch of ferrigno syndrome
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Not better than Ronnie's best, but better than he was in 2001.
The "sport" is fucked up because guys spend the beginning of their careers, when they look best, getting screwed over in favor of some guy on the way down. Then they spend a brief period deservedly at the top then they get to enjoy being the guy getting the undeserved wins. The problem is it encourages them to drag it out and tarnish their legacies with subpar showings that basically make everybody forget what they did to get to the top. This is pretty well illustrated by vizualize perfection's comment.
I don't even see how he was better than Ronnie...maybe the judges wanted him to be better. But when they both turned around, Ronnie dominated.
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I don't even see how he was better than Ronnie...maybe the judges wanted him to be better. But when they both turned around, Ronnie dominated.
wrong:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwUlw_e8NBI/AAAAAAAACY4/EjezFV96Qwg/s400/Jay+Cutler,+Ronnie+Coleman,+Kevin+Levrone+at+the+2001+Mr.+Olympia2.JPG)
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Cutler never beat Ronnie, but remember that Ronnie never beat Dorian Yates.
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wrong:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwUlw_e8NBI/AAAAAAAACY4/EjezFV96Qwg/s400/Jay+Cutler,+Ronnie+Coleman,+Kevin+Levrone+at+the+2001+Mr.+Olympia2.JPG)
Thank you for proving my point. Cutler was still weak, and if you post a BDB, he was weak there.
Cutler's nickname should have been "The Gift", because he was gifted more places and wins than anybody.
And it can be said that due to those gifted wins, which help set the bar low, that is one of many reasons why bbing is mediocre today.
So, thank Culter.
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwUlw_e8NBI/AAAAAAAACY4/EjezFV96Qwg/s400/Jay+Cutler,+Ronnie+Coleman,+Kevin+Levrone+at+the+2001+Mr.+Olympia2.JPG)
Thank you for proving my point. Cutler was still weak, and if you post a BDB, he was weak there.
Cutler's nickname should have been "The Gift", because he was gifted more places and wins than anybody.
And it can be said that due to those gifted wins, which help set the bar low, that is one of many reasons why bbing is mediocre today.
So, thank Culter.
It might be reasonable to argue that Ronnie was better in that pose, but to say he dominated him is simply not true. Jay is wider, his lats insert lower, and if the calfs weren't cut off you know he'd be winning there too.
This is dominating from the back
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/129/images/Lee%20HaneyGary%20Strydom.jpg)
There's a reason Jay beat Ronnie in the prejudging that year, he shat on him from the front and side and kept up from the back:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZvgeDrgHYrM/T4h-rZm3dxI/AAAAAAAAAvw/XVYqjmcze6I/s1600/Top+5+Controversy3.JPG)
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It might be reasonable to argue that Ronnie was better in that pose, but to say he dominated him is simply not true. Jay is wider, his lats insert lower, and if the calfs weren't cut off you know he'd be winning there too.
This is dominating from the back
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/129/images/Lee%20HaneyGary%20Strydom.jpg)
There's a reason Jay beat Ronnie in the prejudging that year, he shat on him from the front and side and kept up from the back:
(http://3.bp.blogsypot.com/-ZvgeDrgHYrM/T4h-rZm3dxI/AAAAAAAAAvw/XVYqjmcze6I/s1600/Top+5+Controversy3.JPG)
Better=dominating. You cannot dominate if you are not better.
That one pic, Culter quads are flexed, whereas Ronnie's isn't. Let's not play the reverse Hulkster game.
In terms of aesthetics...both at the time were not good. Cutler had a wide waist. Ronnie was starting to develop a gut. Cutler had melted abs, Ronnie had an odd 4 pack. Ronnie calves have been better.
Cutler's arms and chest lacked striations.and he wrinkles in his lower back.
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Better=dominating. You cannot dominate if you are not better.
That one pic, Culter quads are flexed, whereas Ronnie's isn't. Let's not play the reverse Hulkster game.
In terms of aesthetics...both at the time were not good. Culter had a wide waist. Ronnie was starting to develop a gut. Cutler had melted abs, Ronnie had an odd 4 pack. Ronnie calves have been better.
Cutler's arms and chest lacked striations.and he wrinkles in his lower back.
better does not equal dominating dominate means " to be much more powerful or successful than others in a game, competition, etc." it's not just barely better.
Agree on both having shit aesthetics, you do have to admit though that in certain shots Jay does look great.
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i'm starting to wonder about the oil in pros arms
did ronnie really have oil in his arms?
Oil in Ronnie's arms? The only oil would be the corn oil he spilt on them while oiling the aluminum foil for his baked chicken tenders.
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i'm starting to wonder about the oil in pros arms
did ronnie really have oil in his arms?
Yes, of course not much compared to other oilbags and used very well... I'd say more in the triceps than the biceps... Nothing wrong using it and not abusing it...
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better does not equal dominating dominate means " to be much more powerful or successful than others in a game, competition, etc." it's not just barely better.
Agree on both having shit aesthetics, you do have to admit though that in certain shots Jay does look great.
And to me Ronnie exuded that...
He dominated him. Cutler was a block, only a remotely better looking block than before. I'll say this as I said it before if Jay had the level of detail in his back as Ronnie did, then I believe he should have won, and if he didn't then be would have been robbed.
For the most part, I think these contests are soo rigged. I think that Cormier should have beaten Flex at the 2000 Arnold, what with Flex's balloon oil delts. And he should have beaten Jay in 2003 and 2004 at the Arnold as well.
But, this is the past, and we are arguing over what has been said and done.
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Coleman vs Cutler 2001
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=41500&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
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2001 and 2009 his best.
(http://i.minus.com/iAzM5MDNelE5.gif)
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2001 and 2009 his best.
(http://i.minus.com/iAzM5MDNelE5.gif)
that shot basically won him that show.
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that shot basically won him that show.
Yep. The best that he has ever looked. If he had his back from 2001, I'd say he would be complete.
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2001 and 2009 his best.
(http://i.minus.com/iAzM5MDNelE5.gif)
Definitely his freakiest!
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wrong:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SwUlw_e8NBI/AAAAAAAACY4/EjezFV96Qwg/s400/Jay+Cutler,+Ronnie+Coleman,+Kevin+Levrone+at+the+2001+Mr.+Olympia2.JPG)
kevin looks better than Jay in that shot
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I forgot how good he looked though.
He will live longer than ronnie :'(
Only because Kerry measured his dosages.
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summary of this thread
cutler bitter, RC mocking him
Nah he says Ronnie is the best bodybuilder ever.
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he just says that to glorify his placing
I guess you're right. I've seen a Jay documentary on youtube and he says he is the greatest bodybuilder ever. :-X
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Head switching seems to do the job on who really was better 2001!!
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this is typical for narcissists
anyone they cant beat are "the greatest ever" ::)
in this case it's true but not in jay's mind not by a long shot
this video shows the level of severity of jay's narcissism and psychosis
This is some deep shet :o!
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this is typical for narcissists
anyone they cant beat are "the greatest ever" ::)
in this case it's true but not in jay's mind not by a long shot
this video shows the level of severity of jay's narcissism and psychosis
He "gave" the title to him because Jay was not at his best. I guess he is parroting what was said when Ronnie lost.
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realistically dexter jackson is 10 times the bodybuilder jay was
lee priest had some things to say on this, he said he doesnt understand the criteria, he said if they are gonna put jay first, how can they put markus 15th?
considering they are both huge shredded blocky guys
it doesnt make sense according to lee
I agree with Lee on this. But, Ruhl had issues---seeming lack of triceps, and he posed his MM crab pose oddly or "wrong". He would pose with elbows out at a exaggerated angle and hit his knuckles together. Everybody else would pose bending over and squeezing with arms coming together like a "crab".
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realistically dexter jackson is 10 times the bodybuilder jay was
lee priest had some things to say on this, he said he doesnt understand the criteria, he said if they are gonna put jay first, how can they put markus 15th?
considering they are both huge shredded blocky guys
it doesnt make sense according to lee
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This, Cutler is a sick fuck... Priest is right, and i would go as far as saying that from an aesthetic standpoint, Rhul is even better than Cutler, with a better shoulder-to-waist ratio... Both mass monsters, both oilbags of the highest order, but Rhul can be freakier with somewhat better aesthetic, also harder... Don't get me wrong, Rhul looks like a crab, but between the two, i choose the crab over the short fridge...
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2008 7 YRS AGO DEX OVER JAY TIME FLIES..
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2008 7 YRS AGO DEX OVER JAY TIME FLIES..
Dex just keeps it smooth keeps rolling through years no highs no lows.
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I agree with Lee on this. But, Ruhl had issues---seeming lack of triceps, and he posed his MM crab pose oddly or "wrong". He would pose with elbows out at a exaggerated angle and hit his knuckles together. Everybody else would pose bending over and squeezing with arms coming together like a "crab".
But to be fair, the crab most muscular is not even a mandatory pose.
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2008 7 YRS AGO DEX OVER JAY TIME FLIES..
6 years buddy. 9 years of relative mediocrity since RC came out in a crown with a scepter and tied the record :-[
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Cutler vs Coleman 2003:
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/3/43385-jaycutleronniecoleman2.jpg)
There a lot closer than I thought but overall Coleman was definitely the better of the two.
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Cutler vs Coleman 2003:
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/3/43385-jaycutleronniecoleman2.jpg)
There a lot closer than I thought but overall Coleman was definitely the better of the two.
Its not 2003, its 2007 or 2006. :-\
maybe i am wrong, but ronnies lat look already atrophied. I say its 2006.
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Its not 2003, its 2007 or 2006. :-\
maybe i am wrong, but ronnies lat look already atrophied. I say its 2006.
That pic is from 2006 and Cutler is clearly winning that RLS and this is coming from a Ronnie fan.
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That pic is from 2006 and Cutler is clearly winning that RLS and this is coming from a Ronnie fan.
would you give overall title to ronnie in 2006?
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Its not 2003, its 2007 or 2006. :-\
maybe i am wrong, but ronnies lat look already atrophied. I say its 2006.
From 06. And Ronnie looks horrid.
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Cutler stole one victory from Ronnie and proceeds to act like "I finally surpassed him," as if he's better then or at anytime in how career than a prime Coleman. History will always view Cutler as a fill in during bleak years and never a dominant champion. In MD, Dr. Colker in his column referred to Cutler as a "de-evolution," in Olympia physiques. Coleman always beats Cutler and even Heath now far superior, Cutler retiring is no consequence for the record books.
Cutler was better on game day when it counted in 2006. That's all that matters. Should have gotten the nod in 2001 as well. At least Cutler didn't get beat by Gunter.
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i'm starting to wonder about the oil in pros arms
did ronnie really have oil in his arms?
no.
oiled arms don't look like this:
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no.
oiled arms don't look like this:
Agreed, no oil here.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528110.0;attach=559650;image)
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holy shit, his face looks like death
thats what a bbers face should look like, really.
of youre having fun on stage, you didnt diet hard enough.
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2008 7 YRS AGO DEX OVER JAY TIME FLIES..
8 + 7 = ?
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8 + 7 = ?
whatever it was 6 yrs ok,,,fuk off with your math .
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whatever it was 6 yrs ok,,,fuk off with your math .
syntaxmachine thinks hes all hot shit cuz he knows numbers.
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syntaxmachine thinks hes all hot shit cuz he knows numbers.
:)..thank god I have you to back me up..
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Prolly going to get slated but i prefer jays prime over ronnies
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This is some deep shet :o!
Halotron is one of the smarter getbiggers
Mass with class
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I'm a bodybuilding analyst, in the gym I always pretend I don't know much about the IFBB because it's a little embarrassing :-X
Yeah ya gotta use phrases like " those bodybuilders". And only be able to name 1 or two pros. And not know much about drugs :-X
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Yeah ya gotta use phrases like " those bodybuilders". And only be able to name 1 or two pros. And not know much about drugs :-X
True.
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would you give overall title to ronnie in 2006?
Cutler winning in 2006 was the right decision in my opinion. Ronnie's back was just too far gone. He couldn't even spread his lats.