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No this isnt shizzo related alcohol induced shakes, its protein shakes.
I look better and havent lost any size, anyone else give up fart powder and feel better for it?
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No this isnt shizzo related alcohol induced shakes, its protein shakes.
I look better and havent lost any size, anyone else give up fart powder and feel better for it?
You probably eat too much protein anyways.
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You probably eat too much protein anyways.
Probably between 100 and 150 a day at the moment.
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I keep the powder to one scoop a day, at max. And only on workout days.
Useful to make plain greek yogurt edible.
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Probably between 100 and 150 a day at the moment.
Same as me.
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Same as me.
We have something in common?????
Thats it, Im upping mine ;D
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lol 150g protein you cant grow on that.
funny everyone who says to eat small amounts of protein are small
add 1+1
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lol 150g protein you cant grow on that.
funny everyone who says to eat small amounts of protein are small
5'10 220 @ 9%
Hardly small
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bro.. protein builds muscle. everyone knows this.
people on getbig are just trying to be special and reinvent the wheel in this regard.
try chicken and fish instead of shakes then...
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bro.. protein builds muscle. everyone knows this.
people on getbig are just trying to be special and reinvent the wheel in this regard.
try chicken and fish instead of shakes then...
I hear chicken and fish as protein sources is the greatest bodybuilding breakthrough since the 10 rep set.
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I hear chicken and fish as protein sources is the greatest bodybuilding breakthrough since the 10 rep set.
unfunny
lean beef is good too ofc but expensiver
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unfunny
lean beef is good too ofc but expensiver
You chuckled a bit. Dont you lie to me, man.
I have dieted on lean ground beef and its cool if its seasoned well. It gets just as old as chicken breast though.
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bro.. protein builds muscle. everyone knows this.
people on getbig are just trying to be special and reinvent the wheel in this regard.
try chicken and fish instead of shakes then...
I know protein builds muscle, I do eat chicken steak and fish, the thread is about shakes and (for me) their lack of importance.
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I go through stages of getting protein powder
but it bloats you and gives you wind
I often end up throwing it out
id rather try and eat more real foods
I get about 180-200 grams a day at a weight of 250
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I know protein builds muscle, I do eat chicken steak and fish, the thread is about shakes and (for me) their lack of importance.
yeah but you talked about 150 g of protein thats what balett dancers eat.
if you wanna gain mass you gotta chug down tuna and shit. if it was as easy as eating like a bird everyone would be big
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yeah but you talked about 150 g of protein thats what balett dancers eat.if you wanna gain mass you gotta chug down tuna and shit. if it was as easy as eating like a bird everyone would be big
Yet I gave you my stats and Im clearly not a ballet dancer.
Whats your stats and your protein intake?
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Yet I gave you my stats and Im clearly not a ballet dancer.
Whats your stats and your protein intake?
With all that protein I would assume he is an athlete of no less than 260 pounds at no more than 5%.
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With all that protein I would assume he is an athlete of no less than 260 pounds at no more than 5%.
I await his response with baited breath.
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I take protein shakes mainly just to satisfy my sweet tooth. Would rather have something sweet that’s high in protein/low in calories than vice versa. :D
My Protein usually have some good flavours.
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I await his response with baited breath.
245 around 10% right now. tall though, 6'3
still gaining though since i started to train again
when lifting weights and constantly breaking down muscle you need alot of protein to repair the tissue. this is just logic. why are we even discussing this on a bbing boarding ??? ???
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245 around 10% right now. tall though, 6'3
still gaining though since i started to train again
when lifting weights and constantly breaking down muscle you need alot of protein to repair the tissue. this is just logic. why are we discussing this on a bbing boarding ??? ???
post up your diet please
you have similar stats to me
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No this isnt shizzo related alcohol induced shakes, its protein shakes.
I look better and havent lost any size, anyone else give up fart powder and feel better for it?
How much were you using? I only use whey pre and post workout. And occasionally when i don't have time to cook and eat.
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Im lactose intolerant but i can handle whey isolate with enzymes without issue. You guys getting all gassy are probably using either too much whey or youre using cheap shit.
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post up your diet please
you have similar stats to me
waries alot since not on a calorie defecit atm.
mostly keep track of getting protein just above 300g.
that's 4 meals at 60+ grams each and one protein shake. not that hard.
try to stay ~200/~60 carbs/fats
protein sources mostly chicken and fish. lean beef sometimes. eggwhites sometimes.
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I get what MAXX is saying.
Im 510 210 at legit 13%
Im honestly more concerned with kidney health issues associated with mega dosing protein.
Im dieting down for a vegas trip in the next coming month.
Macros are usually around 100 carbs 60 fat and the rest in protein to make 1800 calories. Usually around 200 even.
Low dose gear. If I was cutting with t3 I would bump the protein and go keto to keep my calories the same.
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I get what MAXX is saying.
Im 510 210 at legit 13%
Im honestly more concerned with kidney health issues associated with mega dosing protein.
Im dieting down for a vegas trip in the next coming month.
Macros are usually around 100 carbs 60 fat and the rest in protein to make 1800 calories. Usually around 200 even.
Low dose gear. If I was cutting with t3 I would bump the protein and go keto to keep my calories the same.
megadosing protein doesn't do shit to kidneys
this is a myth from steroid abusers why blame it on protein dose.
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245 around 10% right now. tall though, 6'3
still gaining though since i started to train again
when lifting weights and constantly breaking down muscle you need alot of protein to repair the tissue. this is just logic. why are we even discussing this on a bbing boarding ??? ???
So 6'3 245 at 10% and eating double the amount of protein as me.
Yet our stats are pretty much the same???
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How much were you using? I only use whey pre and post workout. And occasionally when i don't have time to cook and eat.
I was about the same level of use, once maybe twice a day.
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I use shakes mainly for increased kcal count/meal replacement in the mornings.
ideally I'd say most are fine taking in 1g/lb bw from animal protein/food sources, and saving the shakes for pre, intra, and post intake (either hydro whey/casein or bcaa's)
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So 6'3 245 at 10% and eating double the amount of protein as me.
Yet our stats are pretty much the same???
I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.
you're undereating.
I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.
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I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.
you're undereating.
I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.
but those doesnt explain why you guys are the same size yet he eats significantly less protein...
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I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.
you're undereating.
I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.
Since start of what?
How long have you been training?
How am I maintaining my weight if Im undereating?
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but those doesnt explain why you guys are the same size yet he eats significantly less protein...
no clue. people have different genes for size.
maybe he does roids. I'm natural.
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no clue. people have different genes for size.
maybe he does roids. I'm natural.
So excess protein isnt essential then??
;D
PS, I think its about time we had a picture as well. ;)
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no clue. people have different genes for size.
maybe he does roids. I'm natural.
bro 245 @ 10%
natural ??? ???
it must be some great protein.
is it the kind of protein that comes suspended in oil and injected intramuscular?
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Protein shakes are G A R B A G E !!!!!
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I don't grow on multiple shakes, just my experience. I limit them to just post workout followed by a meal 45min/1h later
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I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.
you're undereating.
I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.
simon is about the best built guy on here
balance and size wise
its hard to argue with those results
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simon is about the best built guy on here
balance and size wise
its hard to argue with those results
Thanks for that mate.
Maxx seems to be contradicting himself now, he claims large amounts of protein are essential and then says "well maybe its down to gear or genetics"
He cant have it both ways.
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Thanks for that mate.
Maxx seems to be contradicting himself now, he claims large amounts of protein are essential and then says "well maybe its down to gear or genetics"
He cant have it both ways.
can. gear changes much of the equation. as you probably know. but if you take gear. your results are not that good.
you don't seem to want to learn.
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can. gear changes much of the equation. as you probably know. but if you take gear. your results are not that good.
you don't seem to want to learn.
Want to learn?
You are contradicting yourself, what am I to believe?
Is it essential to eat 300gms of protein or does it not matter if you take gear?
Oh, and I think we need a picture as well.
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Want to learn?
You are contradicting yourself, what am I to believe?
Is it essential to eat 300gms of protein or does it not matter if you take gear?
if you take gear you can utilize even more protein.
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if you take gear you can utilize even more protein.
Whats that got to do with it?
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Once more Maxx
Do you feel its essesntial to eat 300gms of protein a day to get results or can a 220lb man get results from 100-150gms?
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Once more Maxx
Do you feel its essesntial to eat 300gms of protein a day to get results or can a 220lb man get results from 100-150gms?
no.
You will go suffer an instant catabolic death.
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no.
You will go suffer an instant catabolic death.
I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.
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I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.
haha.
Thank god my my 250mg a week allows me to slack off in the protein department.
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I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.
flex is exaggerated alot of times but gb is also. getbig fucks with your mind. too many know-it-alls here and people trying to reinvent the wheel. that is all.
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haha.
Thank god my my 250mg a week allows me to slack off in the protein department.
maybe you train like a wuss so your muscle breakdown is not that great even if you take roids ???
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flex is exaggerated alot of times but gb is also. getbig fucks with your mind. too many know-it-alls here and people trying to reinvent the wheel. that is all.
Its the protein companies who have tried to re-invent the wheel.
The 1gm per pound was invented by the protein companies to sell powder.
Eating 200gms a day isnt easy.
Now about that picture, just so we know you are not a bloated mess in Moms basement.
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maybe you train like a wuss so your muscle breakdown is not that great even if you take roids ???
Maybe. Maybe not.
I train with decent intensity, to be honest.
When I was younger and a delusional natural (most likely your affliction) I would train like a fucking maniac. Now I have the shoulders of an 80 year old and tendinitis in the elbows, but thats life. Playing sports didnt help either.
If I could attain the same development with 45's that I could with 100's on any given exercise, you bet your ass I would be picking up 45's.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
I train with decent intensity, to be honest.
When I was younger and a delusional natural (most likely your affliction) I would train like a fucking maniac. Now I have the shoulders of an 80 year old and tendinitis in the elbows, but thats life. Playing sports didnt help either.
If I could attain the same development with 45's that I could with 100's on any given exercise, you bet your ass I would be picking up 45's.
I'm not delusional. I know I can't get the same results as a roid user. But I believe my genes a decent and I am happy with the size I attained naturally. Don't even wanna look like a bber. My goal is only strength. And I like that challange of what I can do naturally. Goal is 315x 8 on the bench. 360 for a single. 600 deadlift and 550 squat. Not too far off right now.
But you know what. There is also something called positive delusion. When I was a delusional kid and followed flex and other mags and internet articles I got better results than following shitheads on getbig. aim for the stars reach treetops. that sorta thing.
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My goal is only strength.
Yet you sit at 10% bf??
Look mate, if you want to make stuff up you need to have a good memory.
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Yet you sit at 10% bf??
Look mate, if you want to make stuff up you need to have a good memory.
bbers are not 10% why are you arguing silly things to put me on the spot. you have some problems with yourself man
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flex is exaggerated alot of times but gb is also. getbig fucks with your mind. too many know-it-alls here and people trying to reinvent the wheel. that is all.
ever stop to think 'the wheel' is wrong?
the best I've ever looked was on 150-200g protein a day. most days I'm lucky to get 150.
the 'you need x amount of protein' is the biggest myth perpetrated in bodybuilding.
sounds like MAXX is a real monster. ::)
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bbers are not 10% why are you arguing silly things to put me on the spot. you have some problems with yourself man
at 10% you have full abs...
are you a little low at the bodyfat estimate?
Im at 13 and I dont have abs. Just an outline in good lighting.
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bbers are not 10% why are you arguing silly things to put me on the spot. you have some problems with yourself man
Im not the one throwing down 300gms of protein a day and making the samre gains as someone on 100-150gms.
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Im not the one throwing down 300gms of protein a day and making the samre gains as someone on 100-150gms.
there's alot of naturals making good gains. look at Layne Norton. Better stats than you at the same height and natural.
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there's alot of naturals making good gains. look at Layne Norton. Better stats than you at the same height and natural.
oh.
brother.
where have you been hiding for 10000 posts?!
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there's alot of naturals making good gains. look at Layne Norton. Better stats than you at the same height and natural.
Really? ;D
Off season layne norton looks like he doesnt even work out.
Shows up onstage shredded at almost the same bodyweight as he is offseason.
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oh.
brother.
where have you been hiding for 10000 posts?!
hahahaha we got a real winner here! :
this isn't going to end well for poor FATTS.
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hahahaha we got a real winner here! :
this isn't going to end well for poor FATTS.
I almost wish he had used the layne Norton line earlier, I feel I have been wasting my time now.
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Really? ;D
Off season layne norton looks like he doesnt even work out.
Shows up onstage shredded at almost the same bodyweight as he is offseason.
not true. offseason he gets up to 235+
you probably just have terrible work ethic and/or genes. that's the usual case with people who discredits real naturals. if they didn't achieve it, it's impossible ::)
just like that Blaha tard.
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I almost wish he had used the layne Norton line earlier, I feel I have been wasting my time now.
well, you, no one, and myself have been trolled hard.
well plaxed "MAXX"
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not true. offseason he gets up to 235+you probably just have terrible work ethic and/or genes. that's the usual case with people who discredits real naturals. if they didn't achieve it, it's impossible ::)
just like that Blaha tard.
Go find me a picture of him at 235+
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layne norton is such a gifted athlete he "grows into shows" as a natural.
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well, you, no one, and myself have been trolled hard.
well plaxed "MAXX"
didn't get me I knew he was a moron from jump.
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Go find me a picture of him at 235+
well my bad off 2 pounds 233 here
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122683481
anyways. keep eating like birds and take roids for no results lol
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well my bad off 2 pounds 233 here
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122683481
anyways. keep eating like birds and take roids for no results lol
got a pic there stud of how massive you are?
don't worry sunshine. you'll never post one.
why? cause guys like you never look like they say they do. your not 10%. your not even 12%. your prolly closer to 16-18% if not higher.
your fat bro. and that's ok. just don't tell us how much of a MONSTER you are cause nobodies buying what your selling, princess.
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got a pic there stud of how massive you are?
don't worry sunshine. you'll never post one.
why? cause guys like you never look like they say they do. your not 10%. your not even 12%. your prolly closer to 16-18% if not higher.
your fat bro. and that's ok. just don't tell us how much of a MONSTER you are cause nobodies buying what your selling, princess.
Exactly my thoughts, You put it down better than me.
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MAXX wont recover.
or he might, but he will need another 100grams or so of whey.
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simon is about the best built guy on here
balance and size wise
its hard to argue with those results
Agree, great glutes
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Protein requirements for lifters are phony put out their by magazines and their protein advertisers.
I took protein shakes for decades. Every positive gain I made I would attribute to hard work and those shakes. I always had stomach problems even using the best whey isolate. I finally gave it up. At first I blamed every bad training cycle on not having whey protein. Then when I made gains I realized it was just a placebo effect from me buying into the snake oil pitch. Every real scientific study I have seen never gave me proof you need a gram of protein or even half that to stay in positive nitrogen retention.
While not bodybuilders of course but Kenyan marathoners who brutally punish their body with 15 to 30 mile runs every day eat about 40 grams of protein a day. If someone can show me a real study where it proves a 200lb lifter should have 150 to 200 grams of protein I would like to see it. Don't show me a phony Bulgarian study put out for review by a supplement company.
Since I stopped using creatine and protein powder I have never felt so good. Instead of crapping mush I have real nice logs now.
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I just broke my calories down for today
as an experiment
my target calories are 2960 my actual are 2897
broken down as follows
carbs 370
fats 33
protein 148
I will add a protein shake into this to bring me up to 188
I am more or less following this diet every day now
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I just broke my calories down for today
as an experiment
my target calories are 2960 my actual are 2897
broken down as follows
carbs 370
fats 33
protein 148
I will add a protein shake into this to bring me up to 188
I am more or less following this diet every day now
are you successfully losing fat on calories that high?
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are you successfully losing fat on calories that high?
yes slowly though
but the diet is asustainable lifestyle wise for me without starving myself
im 6 ft 3 and about 250
I do a lot of exercise too
I will probably have to drop more calories after initial weight loss
this diet was calculated for me to lose a pound a week over twelve weeks
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Protein requirements for lifters are phony put out their by magazines and their protein advertisers.
I took protein shakes for decades. Every positive gain I made I would attribute to hard work and those shakes. I always had stomach problems even using the best whey isolate. I finally gave it up. At first I blamed every bad training cycle on not having whey protein. Then when I made gains I realized it was just a placebo effect from me buying into the snake oil pitch. Every real scientific study I have seen never gave me proof you need a gram of protein or even half that to stay in positive nitrogen retention.
While not bodybuilders of course but Kenyan marathoners who brutally punish their body with 15 to 30 mile runs every day eat about 40 grams of protein a day. If someone can show me a real study where it proves a 200lb lifter should have 150 to 200 grams of protein I would like to see it. Don't show me a phony Bulgarian study put out for review by a supplement company.
Since I stopped using creatine and protein powder I have never felt so good. Instead of crapping mush I have real nice logs now.
I have not had a shake for years just preffer solid food. Beef chicken and fish every day, around 150 grams of protein.
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I have not had a shake for years just preffer solid food. Beef chicken and fish every day, around 150 grams of protein.
I see more and more big guys eating around 150 a day, I think the 2g per kilo or pound has always been a supplement industry myth pushed by them...and it's unhealthy too. I'm sure my kidneys would rather deal with 150g protein a day than 300g.
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I see more and more big guys eating around 150 a day, I think the 2g per kilo or pound has always been a supplement industry myth pushed by them...and it's unhealthy too. I'm sure my kidneys would rather deal with 150g protein a day than 300g.
Ocassionaly I go to 200 grams or thereabout and let me tell you I can feel the difference in my stomach, not a very good feeling.
I found 150 works great for me. I had no desire to look big at my age, 47. Being lean around 8-10 % bf is all I want.
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yes slowly though
but the diet is asustainable lifestyle wise for me without starving myself
im 6 ft 3 and about 250
I do a lot of exercise too
I will probably have to drop more calories after initial weight loss
this diet was calculated for me to lose a pound a week over twelve weeks
Big dude. All the way big dude, if you were any bigger and more masculine, people might mistake you for an American :)
anyways, I have put on weight at that high of calories, lol. just goes to show the difference in peoples bodies. Im cutting on 1800 and will finish my diet at around 1400.
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Really? ;D
Off season layne norton looks like he doesnt even work out.
Shows up onstage shredded at almost the same bodyweight as he is offseason.
Clearly myostatin deficient.
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Clearly myostatin deficient.
Layne nortron clearly gets a good amount of his protein from penile sources, if you know what I mean...
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I have one shake a day. Whey in water, 50g protein. I am still dialing in what makes sense for me diet-wise since I am so new to gear. I am pursuing the holy grail: to put on muscle, whilst losing fat. I don't need a six-pack ("that's what you think", says The Wife), a 4-pack will suffice. Def want bigger arms, chest, back, shoulders, quads, hams, calves ("damn right" -- Wife).
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with wisdom and knowlage comes size and strength
if you can't get size naturally you will not get any size worth mentioning on gear.
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I've usually only gotten 150-200g myself, but I wanna give 300g/day an honest run for a couple months.
It'll be mostly shakes and 1 solid meal at night..... stay tuned
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I've usually only gotten 150-200g myself, but I wanna give 300g/day an honest run for a couple months.
It'll be mostly shakes and 1 solid meal at night..... stay tuned
its harder than you think
bloated all the time feeling like shit
farting rotten eggs at the general populice
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with wisdom and knowlage comes size and strength
if you can't get size naturally you will not get any size worth mentioning on gear.
Hi Layne! Sorry about my comment earlier on "myostatin deficiency" please don't sue me in UK courts!
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with wisdom and knowlage comes size and strength
if you can't get size naturally you will not get any size worth mentioning on gear.
irony.
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its harder than you think
bloated all the time feeling like shit
farting rotten eggs at the general populice
It's been about a week.... not much gas, but i got some purified whey.
Honestly, the biggest difference is that i don't have to do much cooking/cleaning. I got the idea from hazbin who said he dieted for shows on 90% shakes.
I am a little disappointed, I was expecting exponential gains with this much protein ;D
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Layme is also a lying turd who has admitted over email to making up his metabolic damage hypothesis to get more views.
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Hi Layne! Sorry about my comment earlier on "myostatin deficiency" please don't sue me in UK courts!
I'm not Layne im swedish. I dont wanna post pics. don't want my gb profile recognised irl.
could show pic by pm but getbiggers generally cant be trusted (see idiots like alex avesher etc. people you have to deal with here)
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I'm not Layne im swedish. I dont wanna post pics. don't want my gb profile recognised irl.
could show pic by pm but getbiggers generally cant be trusted (see idiots like alex avesher etc. people you have to deal with here)
post a pic with your face covered
like my avatar
im sure your not so famous that people will recognize your torso
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Probably a better chance of me winning the loto this week than MAXX posting a picture of his huge muscular frame that is used for strength
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if I post a pic it will always be used for amunition later.
and a natural physique is not impressive. it gets clouded by all the roid users physiques and considered bad even if decent or even good.
so really logically it's a lose/lose.
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if I post a pic it will always be used for amunition later.
and a natural physique is not impressive. it gets clouded by all the roid users physiques and considered bad even if decent or even good.
so really logically it's a lose/lose.
Haha so basically you admit you look like shit :D
Thanks for playing
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Haha so basically you admit you look like shit :D
Thanks for playing
it's all relative. for a natural I'm quite big and decent strength
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if I post a pic it will always be used for amunition later.
and a natural physique is not impressive. it gets clouded by all the roid users physiques and considered bad even if decent or even good.
so really logically it's a lose/lose.
il be honest 100 percent and give you props if you look good
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Haha so basically you admit you look like shit :D
Thanks for playing
It's not hard, I look like shit and I am taking steps to rectify that. That said, I don't throw bombs at anybody on this board. It's not a good idea to take a steamer on a dude that looks 100x better than me, gear or not.
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if I post a pic it will always be used for amunition later.
and a natural physique is not impressive. it gets clouded by all the roid users physiques and considered bad even if decent or even good.
so really logically it's a lose/lose.
You think a 6'3, 245lb physique at 10% bodyfat is not impressive?
Its almost Arnold-esque. :D
You must be quite the genetic marvel. Whats your secret? Did you sacrifice to win? :D
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245 around 10% right now.
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You think a 6'3, 245lb physique at 10% bodyfat is not impressive?
Its almost Arnold-esque. :D
You must be quite the genetic marvel. Whats your secret? Did you sacrifice to win? :D
I look nothing like Arnold but have a decent big frame. My chest is bird compared to Arnold. I need 10 more lbs of mass and then go down to 5% bf to look somewhat impressive.
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I look nothing like Arnold but have a decent big frame. My chest is bird compared to Arnold. I need 10 more lbs of mass and then go down to 5% bf to look somewhat impressive.
245 at 10 percent natural is elite level my friend
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I look nothing like Arnold but have a decent big frame. My chest is bird compared to Arnold. I need 10 more lbs of mass and then go down to 5% bf to look somewhat impressive.
lol.
If you dont look impressive at ten, youre just going to be a swimmer at 5.
10% is almost perfect walking around bf. Still look lean and you can be full and have enough fat to make you look big.
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C'mon guys its obvious he's not 10%.... probably a very unimpressive physique, otherwise he wouldn't be so shy
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C'mon guys its obvious he's not 10%.... probably a very unimpressive physique, otherwise he wouldn't be so shy
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/571/cutlerbulk.jpg)
all natural, ate heavy.
doesnt train like a wimp.
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(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/571/cutlerbulk.jpg)
all natural, ate heavy.
doesnt train like a wimp.
Looks like a frog on an ice cube.
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if I post a pic it will always be used for amunition later.
and a natural physique is not impressive. it gets clouded by all the roid users physiques and considered bad even if decent or even good.
so really logically it's a lose/lose.
If you look as good as you claim what possible ammunition could people use?
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I look nothing like Arnold but have a decent big frame. My chest is bird compared to Arnold. I need 10 more lbs of mass and then go down to 5% bf to look somewhat impressive.
You do know 5% bodyfat is pretty much stage ready?
You maybe 6'3ft and 245lbs but you most likely not even remotely close to 10% bodyfat.
If you actually get down to that kind of condition, you'll probably be shocked by how much weight you lose and how light you end up.
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a 220 lbs doesn't need more than 200 grams, and even that is overkill, u don't need so much protein for building muscle, just bump your carbs and healthy fats and you're good to go, especially if you're natural, you'll just be holding a lot of water ;)
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lol 150g protein you cant grow on that.
funny everyone who says to eat small amounts of protein are small
add 1+1
I have personally proven this theory to be wrong, I lowered my protein intake to almost nothing for 6 weeks and ate most carbs and vegetables and beans and I did not see any difference in size or muscle gain, so the high protein theory is bullshit.
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'im a natty whos 250 pound at 10% but i cant post a pic cause i work with the NSA and im afraid their software will link me to this board and i'll lose my job and 00 status at MI5'
hahahahaha fuck bro stop, ok? just stop.
your not 10%. never have been 10%.
i dont know why people feel the need to lie on message boards- like who gives a fuck- you need to impress strangers so much you feel the need to lie about something as trivial as your bf?
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Frank Zane ate 2 meals a day and ate 150 to 200 grams of protein a day. He never really went over 10 pounds his contest weight and the one time he did, he said it took him a year to get back to a workable weight and wasted a year perma bulking. As skinny as people think Zane was, jaws would drop even today if he trained in just about every gym in his prime at a weight of no more than 200 pounds...The magazines have been lying to you people for years. If your eating over 250 grams of protein, you are most likely a fat turd 10 months out of the year...
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(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/571/cutlerbulk.jpg)
all natural, ate heavy.
doesnt train like a wimp.
Your arms aren't big enough to match your chest..your thighs are too big for your calves..You've got one pose, and it makes you like a frog.
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I'm not Layne im swedish. I dont wanna post pics. don't want my gb profile recognised irl.
could show pic by pm but getbiggers generally cant be trusted (see idiots like alex avesher etc. people you have to deal with here)
You can trust me with your pic. Don't trust bigmc or simon.
You know you can trust me because I don't get along with any of those guys you're debating with.
I'm also natural and part of team natty here on getbig. We defend our own.
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You can trust me with your pic. Don't trust bigmc or simon.
lol
You haven't even posted your own pic yet.
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lol
You haven't even posted your own pic yet.
Several honorable members here have seen my pics.
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i drink very few lately... sinuses go crazy from teh dairy during florida sinus season, every march.
i'm lactose intolenant i guess... so whey counts?
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Several honorable members here have seen my pics.
dont believe you.
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i drink very few lately... sinuses go crazy from teh dairy during florida sinus season, every march.
i'm lactose intolenant i guess... so whey counts?
Some companies put in digestive enzymes like lactase in their whey.
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dont believe you.
Really, I'm currently nothing special. The pics are not even worth posting. You gotta keep in mind I barely have a little over a year of training under me.
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Really, I'm currently nothing special. The pics are not even worth posting. You gotta keep in mind I barely have a little over a year of training under me.
Well shut the fuck up prattling on giving shitty advice to people when you dont have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
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Well shut the fuck up prattling on giving shitty advice to people when you dont have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
A year of training after a long lay off due to injuries sustained in a car accident.
I have about decade of weight training under me. Natural weight training... the kind were in order to progress you need to be well in tuned with your programming, body and diet.
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A year of training after a long lay off due to injuries sustained in a car accident.
I have about decade of weight training under me. Natural weight training... the kind were in order to progress you need to be well in tuned with your programming, body and diet.
Well stay the fuck out of the steroid sections asking dumb questions and writing like you know what you are on about.
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A year of training after a long lay off due to injuries sustained in a car accident.
I have about decade of weight training under me. Natural weight training... the kind were in order to progress you need to be well in tuned with your programming, body and diet.
And this is why long term nattys are generally more knowledgeable than you juiced gym rats. Our progress isn't reliant upon sticking needles in our asses and popping pills. We actually need to have everything on point.
Ever notice how uncommon programming is for bbing juicers? It's almost unheard of. And thats fucking sad. All fucking drugs.
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Wow 10years of weight training, that's impressive bro. You should post some pics up from the 10years of weight training, but we will all officially understand if you never took a single pic in those 10years.
Like I said, several members here have seen my pics. Both recent and in my prime.
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Well stay the fuck out of the steroid sections asking dumb questions and writing like you know what you are on about.
You have a seriously bad attitude problem for someone your age.
And everyone there in the steroid sections knows I've never used.
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All good bro, I am new to lifting and natural and it's inspiring and motivational to see what other guys have been able to do naturally, 10 years of lifting would have produced a solid build!
the two year natural lifter looks identical to the 10 year natural lifter.
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the two year natural lifter looks identical to the 10 year natural lifter.
Totally not true.
Its after 2-3 years that a natural lifter learns the importance of individual programming and dieting in order to progress. Problem is a lot of people don't care to learn - or are ignorant and believe youre maxed out at 2 years - then hop on the roids.
Big Chiro Flex can back me up on this. 2-3 years is where it all starts.
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Totally not true.
Its after 2-3 years that a natural lifter learns the importance of individual programming and dieting in order to progress. Problem is a lot of people don't care to learn - or are ignorant and believe youre maxed out at 2 years - then hop on the roids.
Big Chiro Flex can back me up on this. 2-3 years is where it all starts.
agree to disagree.
I just think If you plan on having a legit great physique and plan on taking the plunge and jumping on gear, might as well start sooner than later, I think 2 years is a good point.
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I see that 2 years maxed out line parroted quite a bit on getbig. I think thats sad if you believe it - and it speaks volumes of the base you built before you started AAS, as well as your knowledge of weight training, programming, and dieting without chemical assistance.
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I see that 2 years maxed out line parroted quite a bit on getbig. I think thats sad if you believe it - and it speaks volumes of the base you built before you started AAS, as well as your knowledge of weight training, programming, and dieting without chemical assistance.
I was bigger naturally than you will/have ever be/been.
I didnt say that I only built naturally for two years.
I played football, I trained for performance, tons of benching squats, etc. I didnt even train arms until my playing days were over and I started lifting for fun when I was about 20ish.
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I was bigger naturally than you will/have ever be/been.
I didnt say that I only built naturally for two years.
I played football, I trained for performance, tons of benching squats, etc. I didnt even train arms until my playing days were over and I started lifting for fun when I was about 20ish.
Nope. You're not even bigger or stronger on steroids. You believe that people are maxed out after 2 years... that means you maxed out after 2 years.
And who cares if you played highschool football or at your local community college.
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Nope. You're not even bigger or stronger on steroids.
And who cares if you played highschool football or at your local community college.
Im not trying to pick a fight or have a pissing contest, bro. No need to meltdown.
Im bigger than you, its ok. Im not a lifetime natural athlete like you. I "cheat" I guess.
Anyways, I didnt play at a JC btw. Div 2 thx. ;D
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Im not trying to pick a fight or have a pissing contest, bro. No need to meltdown.
Im bigger than you, its ok. Im not a lifetime natural athlete like you. I "cheat" I guess.
Anyways, I didnt play at a JC btw. Div 2 thx. ;D
It's ok bro, you maxed out after only 2 years of training natural. :-*
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It's ok bro, you maxed out after only 2 years of training natural. :-*
Stop being so upset,
You can continue to gain immense mountains of natural muscle year after year until the second coming, there, happy?
The easter bunny will also be delivering eggs filled with candy as per usual.
Did you know that Santa is also a member of lifetime natural club?
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Stop being so upset,
You can continue to gain immense mountains of natural muscle year after year until the second coming, there, happy?
The easter bunny will also be delivering eggs filled with candy as per usual.
Did you know that Santa is also a member of lifetime natural club?
No need to meltdown bro. You probably have naturally low test levels so you maxed out early. :-*
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No need to meltdown bro. You probably have naturally low test levels so you maxed out early. :-*
Probably.
If only I had half the natural testosterone as the brutal natural weekend warrior Wolfox... imagine the possibilities.
Im not trying to get under your skin here, bro.
I really think you should keep up the natural thing, its cool.
You can row 315 for reps, you have elite level genetics.
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Probably.
A question about your medical condition tho bro:
did the other one ever descend?
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i just popped in cause i heard wolfox was melting down :D
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A question about your medical condition tho bro:
did the other one ever descend?
its descending into your wifes mouth, as we speak.
when you get backed into a corner just realize that I didnt start this.
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its descending into your wifes mouth, as we speak.
when you get backed into a corner just realize that I didnt start this.
Aww now don't get all butt hurt my friend. Don't get mad at me because you maxed out after 2 years. :-*
I'm just having a laugh at your expense is all.
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Aww now don't get all butt hurt my friend. Don't get mad at me because you maxed out after 2 years. :-*
I'm just having a laugh at your expense is all.
youre campaign to not be a dick for 2 weeks sure didnt last hey?
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youre campaign to not be a dick for 2 weeks sure didnt last hey?
Hey chief, don't mind me. I'm not good for your health. Plus, I'll never have a go at you. I'm not that type of guy. I have a code.
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Hey chief, don't mind me. I'm not good for your health. Plus, I'll never have a go at you. I'm not that type of guy. I have a code.
a code?
you pm'd me 3 times saying you would leave the board if i asked you too cause you didnt want me fucking with your personal life
ohhhhhhh please try and deny you sent these messages
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Aww now don't get all butt hurt my friend. Don't get mad at me because you maxed out after 2 years. :-*
lol. If even I was maxed out after two years. I was bigger than you :/
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a code?
you pm'd me 3 times saying you would leave the board if i asked you too cause you didnt want me fucking with your personal life
ohhhhhhh please try and deny you sent these messages
haha....
brutal.
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haha....
brutal.
dude he sucked my dick in pm and a couple times right on the boards
so full of shit saying he is gonna change for 2 weeks
ooooo lets get ready for him to call me a mental online stalker or something juicy like that
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hes just a little dickhead.
he made fun of my all star football career, playing one season for a division 2 school is just shy of being a pro, everyone knows that.
then he made fun of my undescended testicle. totally not cool.
its caused me to walk lopsided my entire life.
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hes just a little dickhead.
he made fun of my all star football career, playing one season for a division 2 school is just shy of being a pro, everyone knows that.
then he made fun of my undescended testicle. totally not cool.
its caused me to walk lopsided my entire life.
i heard 88% of the nfl starters went to d2 for one season then went pro,.....and that 47% of those have one shrivelled up nut
at least you arent alone
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i heard 88% of the nfl starters went to d2 for one season then went pro,.....and that 47% of those have one shrivelled up nut
at least you arent alone
yep.
I cant confirm of the undescended nut is shriveled though, I have never met it. I can, however, confirm that the one thats accounted for is about as usefull as a pile of fuzz, due to "questionable" "supplements"
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a code?
you pm'd me 3 times saying you would leave the board if i asked you too cause you didnt want me fucking with your personal life
ohhhhhhh please try and deny you sent these messages
Yes, a code.
And it's true - I've got no beef with you Josh. I only wish you well.
Remember, all you have to do is say the words and I'm gone.
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hes just a little dickhead.
he made fun of my all star football career, playing one season for a division 2 school is just shy of being a pro, everyone knows that.
then he made fun of my undescended testicle. totally not cool.
its caused me to walk lopsided my entire life.
See, I knew you could take a joke or two. We should get together and lift sometime if you're ever in the area.
Post first cycle of course - I don't want to embarrass you that bad being a natty and still outlifting you. :-*
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See, I knew you could a joke or two. We should get together and lift sometime if you're ever in the area.
Post first cycle of course - I don't want to embarrass you that bad being a natty and still outlifting you. :-*
Im not in the lift heavy mindset. tbh.
Im a natural as well bro.
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Im not in the lift heavy mindset. tbh.
Im a natural as well bro.
225 for squats bro?
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225 for squats bro?
I honestly only hack squat.
I cant put my arm behind my neck to hold a bar, shoulders too bad.
I can squat on a smith cause you really dont need to secure the bar.
I have thought about picking up a yolk from elitefts or similar but i realized I dont give that much fucks about it.
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I honestly only hack squat.
I cant put my arm behind my neck to hold a bar, shoulders too bad.
I can squat on a smith cause you really dont need to secure the bar.
I have thought about picking up a yolk from elitefts or similar but i realized I dont give that much fucks about it.
Hey we're both in the bad shoulder club but i'm only limited with not doing shoulder presses and incline.
I can do the low incline hammer tho.
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a code?
you pm'd me 3 times saying you would leave the board if i asked you too cause you didnt want me fucking with your personal life
ohhhhhhh please try and deny you sent these messages
lmao ;D
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Several honorable members here have seen my pics.
Why not just post them on this thread and show everyone what you achieved naturally?
Same question for MAXX.
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bro 245 @ 10%
natural ??? ???
it must be some great protein.
is it the kind of protein that comes suspended in oil and injected intramuscular?
:D
This Maxx guy is great
Gotta be at least 255 lbs / 5% bf to look good.
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100-150 grams of protein is all a Lifetime Natural needs.
No idea on a roider though.
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100-150 grams of protein is all a Lifetime Natural needs.
No idea on a roider though.
I was eating 100 grams of protein when I first starting lifting in the late 80s.
The rule of thumb is 1 gram per pound of bodyweight. You can adjust from there. Some may need more protein; other may need less.
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I was eating 100 grams of protein when I first starting lifting in the late 80s.
The rule of thumb is 1 gram per pound of bodyweight. You can adjust from there. Some may need more protein; other may need less.
That rule was written by mountebanks and miscreants.
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That rule was written by mountebanks and miscreants.
When I first starting training, I weighed 136 lb. So, that would fit both your requirement and the 1g/lb bodyweight rule.
But for some reason, 136 grams of protein wasn't sufficient for me to break 200 lb., back in the day.
Plus, it's a recommendation, not a commandment.
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When I first starting training, I weighed 136 lb. So, that would fit both your requirement and the 1g/lb bodyweight rule.
But for some reason, 136 grams of protein wasn't sufficient for me to break 200 lb., back in the day.
Plus, it's a recommendation, not a commandment.
I have done high protein (1.5-2.5 grams per lb of bodyweight) bulking and dieting years ago. Worst results were when dieting with high protein.
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I have done high protein (1.5-2.5 grams per lb of bodyweight) bulking and dieting years ago. Worst results were when dieting with high protein.
I have done high protein (1-1.5 grams per lb of bodyweight) as well. In my younger years, 1.5g/lb worked well in terms of increasing size and strength.
Now, I'm at about 1 gram per lb; some days I go lower, particularly when I'm not training. I went high protein with too few carbs when trying to diet/drop weight. That didn't work too well.
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I have done high protein (1-1.5 grams per lb of bodyweight) as well. In my younger years, 1.5g/lb worked well in terms of increasing size and strength.
Now, I'm at about 1 gram per lb; some days I go lower, particularly when I'm not training. I went high protein with too few carbs when trying to diet/drop weight. That didn't work too well.
Same here. Did it twice actually. Worst dieting ever. It got so bad some of my lifts were down 50 percent or more and it was just awful.
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I have done high protein (1-1.5 grams per lb of bodyweight) as well. In my younger years, 1.5g/lb worked well in terms of increasing size and strength.
Now, I'm at about 1 gram per lb; some days I go lower, particularly when I'm not training. I went high protein with too few carbs when trying to diet/drop weight. That didn't work too well.
I actually did pretty well on a "paleo" style diet. Dropped a bunch of weight and got stronger in most lifts.