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http://www.fightvideomma.co/2014/04/fabricio-werdum-vs-travis-browne-fight.html
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I didn't think Browne would win, but I was surprised he gassed out in the first round. If he had somehow won the fight he wouldn't stand a chance against Cain.
Werdum vs. Cain is a much better match-up.
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I didn't think Browne would win, but I was surprised he gassed out in the first round. If he had somehow won the fight he wouldn't stand a chance against Cain.
Werdum vs. Cain is a much better match-up.
Do you think cain can hang?
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Do you think cain can hang?
On the ground, no. On the feet, yes. I think Cain will push him against the fence most of the fight like he did with JDS.
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Do you think cain can hang?
hell grind him out like farofa
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On the ground, no. On the feet, yes. I think Cain will push him against the fence most of the fight like he did with JDS.
hell grind him out like farofa
Yep... that really worked for Fedor.
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Do you think cain can hang?
watch cain vs bigfoot....i hope im wrong and its a decent fight but i see cain dominating both standup and ground through good bjj defense and ground and pound. this fight should be no different
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I thought that Browne was going to win. I heard that Werdum broke Browne's ribs early in the fight.
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Werdum picked Browne apart and practically held a clinic on the young man.
Prior to the fight, I figured that if it went to the ground, Werdum would dominate, but that if it remained a striking match, Browne would have success.
Some things I noticed throughout the match:
- Werdum's cardio was insane.
Werdum's ground game is as good as it has ever been.
Werdum's striking is good, but could be great if he kept the pace throughout each round.
Browne finally realized that his window of opportunity lies between rounds 1 and 2, by way of his cardio. Once Browne brings his cardio up to speed, I think we will see him come back.
Browne's ground game (as expected by most) needs some work to bring it up to speed with his good striking.
For now, I am excited to see Cain vs Werdum. Both of these fighters have good striking (with the advantage going to Cain imo), whereas the ground advantage would go to Werdum, but Cain is no slouch with his great wrestling and bjj black belt. This should hopefully be an exciting heavyweight match up, but I still would give it to Cain.
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I was surprised brown ran out of gas so fast! :o :o
Then I was surprised brown made it all 5 rounds! :o :o
Great fight! Werdum definitely dominated the fight!
Brown learned a valuable lesson. He's going to shape up big time and destroy next time!
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Werdum picked Browne apart and practically held a clinic on the young man.
Prior to the fight, I figured that if it went to the ground, Werdum would dominate, but that if it remained a striking match, Browne would have success.
Some things I noticed throughout the match:
- Werdum's cardio was insane.
Werdum's ground game is as good as it has ever been.
Werdum's striking is good, but could be great if he kept the pace throughout each round.
Browne finally realized that his window of opportunity lies between rounds 1 and 2, by way of his cardio. Once Browne brings his cardio up to speed, I think we will see him come back.
Browne's ground game (as expected by most) needs some work to bring it up to speed with his good striking.
For now, I am excited to see Cain vs Werdum. Both of these fighters have good striking (with the advantage going to Cain imo), whereas the ground advantage would go to Werdum, but Cain is no slouch with his great wrestling and bjj black belt. This should hopefully be an exciting heavyweight match up, but I still would give it to Cain.
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I agree with most of this
I think werdums body kicks had more effect in gassing out browne than his lack of cardio
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haha Werdum is a sneaky fuck
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I agree with most of this
I think werdums body kicks had more effect in gassing out browne than his lack of cardio
Being on his back for the first time in the octagon and struggling for two or three minutes to get back up, is what gassed Travis out, in my opinion.
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Both guys got tagged right on the chin many times and didn't even wobble.That surprised me, and Browne was finished/gassed at the end of the first round. He looked like complete crap the rest of the fight. Glad he's Hawaiian and not Haole.
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watch cain vs bigfoot....i hope im wrong and its a decent fight but i see cain dominating both standup and ground through good bjj defense and ground and pound. this fight should be no different
Watch Werdum vs bigfoot. do you have an idea of how tall Werdum is?
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I was impressed with Werdums new striking, but he won't defeat Cain.
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Being on his back for the first time in the octagon and struggling for two or three minutes to get back up, is what gassed Travis out, in my opinion.
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I think it's multi-factorial.
Werdum landed very strategic body kicks to the lateral abdomen, which most likely was behind the rib fracture that Browne suffered early during the fight.
Considering how "painful" it can be to inhale fully while having a fractured rib, one can assume that Browne was getting a limited supply of oxygen throughout those 5 rounds.
Werdum, furthermore, laying on top of him and making Browne exhausted only added to Browne's lack of energy.
Leg kicks to the body > Fractured Rib > reduce oxygenation by way of painful inhalation > Browne having to support Werdum's body weight (while Werdum had side control, back and full mount) for extended period = severe exhaustion.
All that taken into account, you have to then realize that Werdum's striking accuracy was on point, which only made matters worse for Browne.
I think Browne will be back and improved in 6-8 months.
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Seeing Travis Browne being humiliated by Werdum was joyous. Check out Werdums pisstaking of fedors priest on youtube
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I think it's multi-factorial.
Werdum landed very strategic body kicks to the lateral abdomen, which most likely was behind the rib fracture that Browne suffered early during the fight.
Considering how "painful" it can be to inhale fully while having a fractured rib, one can assume that Browne was getting a limited supply of oxygen throughout those 5 rounds.
Werdum, furthermore, laying on top of him and making Browne exhausted only added to Browne's lack of energy.
Leg kicks to the body > Fractured Rib > reduce oxygenation by way of painful inhalation > Browne having to support Werdum's body weight (while Werdum had side control, back and full mount) for extended period = severe exhaustion.
All that taken into account, you have to then realize that Werdum's striking accuracy was on point, which only made matters worse for Browne.
I think Browne will be back and improved in 6-8 months.
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I don't think people realize how big Werdum is. He's 6'5" and fights at 232-235 lbs, walking-around weight is 250.
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I think it's multi-factorial.
Werdum landed very strategic body kicks to the lateral abdomen, which most likely was behind the rib fracture that Browne suffered early during the fight.
Considering how "painful" it can be to inhale fully while having a fractured rib, one can assume that Browne was getting a limited supply of oxygen throughout those 5 rounds.
Werdum, furthermore, laying on top of him and making Browne exhausted only added to Browne's lack of energy.
Leg kicks to the body > Fractured Rib > reduce oxygenation by way of painful inhalation > Browne having to support Werdum's body weight (while Werdum had side control, back and full mount) for extended period = severe exhaustion.
All that taken into account, you have to then realize that Werdum's striking accuracy was on point, which only made matters worse for Browne.
I think Browne will be back and improved in 6-8 months.
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Very good points OMR. Especially about Werdum's BJJ skills and his "smash", which I feel, is underappreciated.
If you haven't rolled before and had someone smash down on you in side control...an especially big and powerful guy who knows how to really smash properly in side control...then you have no idea how tiring it can be to try and shrimp out of it.
You get a big man go knee-on-belly on you, and see how fast you want to gas. It is not pleasant and you quickly realize you're going to have a shitty day at the office.
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But we agree Werdum can't take Cain? I don't see anyone beating that guy for a while.
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But we agree Werdum can't take Cain? I don't see anyone beating that guy for a while.
Cain is far from invincible.
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Cain is far from invincible.
Not so far, minus the the JDS fluke.
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Not so far, minus the the JDS fluke.
Cain is a great fighter. He has amazing cardio and speed. His striking is devastating and his ground game (wrestling + bjj) is very impressive.
I think that if the fight goes to the ground, Werdum can pull an upset. His JiuJitsu is world class and his size is a lot to work with.
If the fight remains standing, I give the advantage to Cain.
Even so, any man can be defeated. Any man can land a lucky punch for the knockout (JDS style).
Hopefully, it turns out to be a very entertaining fight. I'd love to see a 5-rounder with serious highlight clips.
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Cain is a great fighter. He has amazing cardio and speed. His striking is devastating and his ground game (wrestling + bjj) is very impressive.
I think that if the fight goes to the ground, Werdum can pull an upset. His JiuJitsu is world class and his size is a lot to work with.
If the fight remains standing, I give the advantage to Cain.
Even so, any man can be defeated. Any man can land a lucky punch for the knockout (JDS style).
Hopefully, it turns out to be a very entertaining fight. I'd love to see a 5-rounder with serious highlight clips.
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Is it supposed to happen?
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Is it supposed to happen?
Velasquez and Werdum are now tentatively scheduled to headline the UFC's debut journey into Mexico this November, a bout with local blockbuster potential considering Velasquez's Mexican heritage and Werdum's role as an analyst and commentator for the UFC Network in Latin America.
Both fighters are also expected to coach on The Ultimate Fighter: Latin America, which begins filming this May in Las Vegas, according to Mendez.
No fight date can be set in stone, however, until Velasquez receives clearance to return to the gym 100-percent. The 31-year-old underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder in mid-December, three years after undergoing a similar procedure on his right shoulder, and he still has a ways to go in his recovery.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/21/5637378/cain-velasquezs-head-coach-excited-after-watching-fabricio-werdums (http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/21/5637378/cain-velasquezs-head-coach-excited-after-watching-fabricio-werdums)
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http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/21/5637378/cain-velasquezs-head-coach-excited-after-watching-fabricio-werdums (http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/21/5637378/cain-velasquezs-head-coach-excited-after-watching-fabricio-werdums)
Cool. But Mexico? Is there a worse country on the planet?
I guess Africa might have something to say about that.
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