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Title: cable crossovers
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 06:37:47 AM
only 110lb twinks do cable cross overs

true story
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 06:40:27 AM
Once Ron added the "Big" to my name, I only do hammer strength seated chest press, where I turn my body sideways on the chair and do one arm at the time.

Try it, wicked squeeze.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2014, 06:40:56 AM
only 110lb twinks do cable cross overs

true story

 I work  them in with a heavyish flye some weeks..there good to superset with dips or pushups..
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 06:41:24 AM
You forgot "no homo" when mentioning "cable crossovers" (no homo).
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 06:42:24 AM

 I work  them in with a heavyish flye some weeks..there good to superset with dips or pushups..

 :o
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 06:44:05 AM
Mostly, I don't like them because I don't have them in my gym. I do have a bunch of bands (no homo)
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: booty on April 29, 2014, 06:44:22 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 06:44:45 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  

I am kinda distracted just thinking about it.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 06:48:24 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  

Yeah my tits are all over the place on this exercise as well.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  

#wankbank
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2014, 06:58:53 AM
:o
:o
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 29, 2014, 06:59:05 AM
Once Ron added the "Big" to my name, I only do hammer strength seated chest press, where I turn my body sideways on the chair and do one arm at the time.

Try it, wicked squeeze.

No bullshit?  I've seen some twinks do this, but i figured it was some gimmicky balonie
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Simple Simon on April 29, 2014, 07:01:12 AM
they isolate the pecs way better than bench press and after all thats the muscle you're supposed to be working.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 07:01:20 AM
No bullshit?  I've seen some twinks do this, but i figured it was some gimmicky balonie

Every time somebody uses the GH15 spelling of "balonie", I laugh.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Rambone on April 29, 2014, 07:01:33 AM
"I'm trying to get the middle of my chest cut up." - every twink after a set of cable crossovers
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Hulkotron on April 29, 2014, 07:02:48 AM
only 110lb twinks do cable cross overs

true story

This has been my observation as well

"I'm trying to get the middle of my chest cut up." - every twink after a set of cable crossovers

Haha yes  :D
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: booty on April 29, 2014, 07:03:05 AM
Trust me on this guys...they bounce so bad that guys laugh.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: njflex on April 29, 2014, 07:05:57 AM
Trust me on this guys...they bounce so bad that guys laugh.
:)'the visual'
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 07:12:18 AM
I use them when there's no decline benches in the gym, palms facing down and bring down from my side and lock low just infront of my pipi....really hit the lower pecs...gotta get that lower chest sweep/hang on the chest, girls love it*  ;D











Gay men too if that floats yer boat
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 07:12:28 AM
No bullshit?  I've seen some twinks do this, but i figured it was some gimmicky balonie

Being one of the bigger guys here, I would not joke about matters regarding hypertrophy.

This is the real deal.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 07:26:21 AM

 I work  them in with a heavyish flye some weeks..there good to superset with dips or pushups..
yes Steve nothing wrong with supersets, Dips with push ups to failure. Cable crossovers in my opinion are really for way advanced guys. Vince Gironda did them in a Special decline bench he made. He also liked Dips. Had a great chest in my opinion. itīs like saying you have to Bench to get a good chest..load of rubbish. bill Pearl who had a great chest and Overall size wrote, " although the bench press is a great asset in increasing power, i believe it is considerably overrated as a chest developer exercise...i have found that the best exercises for pectoral development are: bent arm laterals,chest-cross overs,incline presses,decline movements and flyes"
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 29, 2014, 07:34:44 AM
Every newbie asking me for a good pec exercise is sent to do cable crossovers immediately. I never do them myself. None of them have questioned me about this yet.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: wolfrittner on April 29, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
only 110lb twinks do cable cross overs

true story
its a cross fit exercise!!
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 07:41:20 AM
Every newbie asking me for a good pec exercise is sent to do cable crossovers immediately. I never do them myself. None of them have questioned me about this yet.
yeah because they see big guys doing them but do not realise the "meat on the Bones" was built through Basics. However things are changing and i put guys now on a very solid and Basic Routine. Just a few exercises.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Simple Simon on April 29, 2014, 07:44:09 AM
yeah because they see big guys doing them but do not realise the "meat on the Bones" was built through Basics. However things are changing and i put guys now on a very solid and Basic Routine. Just a few exercises.

can you explain how a muscle knows what exercise its doing please?

Muscles only know stress, stress the muscle and it will respond regardless of the exercise.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 29, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  

Why... there are no pretty girls in your gym to look at you fat cow ?
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 07:47:36 AM
they isolate the pecs way better than bench press and after all thats the muscle you're supposed to be working.

fuck off  ;D
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 29, 2014, 07:47:44 AM
yeah because they see big guys doing them but do not realise the "meat on the Bones" was built through Basics. However things are changing and i put guys now on a very solid and Basic Routine. Just a few exercises.

I think you missed something in my post. Irony maybe.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 29, 2014, 07:50:40 AM
Why... there are no pretty girls in your gym to look at you fat cow ?

The 4$99 monthly entrance fee doesn't really bring the cream of the crop.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 07:53:03 AM
can you explain how a muscle knows what exercise its doing please?

Muscles only know stress, stress the muscle and it will respond regardless of the exercise.
very true but the overload provided with Parallel bar Dips or Benches( in any form is superior). You will not get a chest like an advanced Trainer with just crossovers. Infact i would not even recommend them untill maybe 1.5 years hard Training. Cables do give a constant resistance. mass they will not build unless integrated in a Programme like Steve wrote...even then for only advanced Trainers.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 07:57:05 AM
I do not even use them myself because i am still struggling to be Advanced... ;D
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: the trainer on April 29, 2014, 08:00:12 AM
can you explain how a muscle knows what exercise its doing please?

Muscles only know stress, stress the muscle and it will respond regardless of the exercise.

When you use machines you dont work the the stabilizer muscles and this can lead to injury in the long run, free weights are a must in any workout program.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Simple Simon on April 29, 2014, 08:02:12 AM
When you use machines you dont work the the stabilizer muscles and this can lead to injury in the long run, free weights are a must in any workout program.
agreed, but you can isloate the pec far better with a cable than you can bench pressing.
In fact I use a power band attached at shoulder length to do 1 arm flys.
Tension on the chest is unbelievable.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2014, 08:04:19 AM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  

A good spotter can get them under control.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 08:07:10 AM
When you use machines you dont work the the stabilizer muscles and this can lead to injury in the long run, free weights are a must in any workout program.
This... but you would be surprised at how many guys come in the Gym and want to "Bench hard".. you Show them and they struggle because they have never used the stabilizing muscles like this...give them dB flyes and it gets worse. i actually had a guy who had Trouble benching 40kg on the flat bench. He just could not get it and so he had to do machine press. Also as i wrote before on here had a guy double my size but fat you was weak as fuck. was funny.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: wolfrittner on April 29, 2014, 08:08:02 AM
Trust me on this guys...they bounce so bad that guys laugh.
im laughing right now!!  ;D ;D But im sure it looks pretty hot! Booty still has a smoking body!
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 29, 2014, 08:17:22 AM
im laughing right now!!  ;D ;D But im sure it looks pretty hot! Booty still has a smoking body!


Have you seen recent photos?  She looks good for her age, but "smoking" she is not
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 29, 2014, 08:23:31 AM
im laughing right now!!  ;D ;D But im sure it looks pretty hot! Booty still has a smoking body!


The only smoke you get comes from her needy genitals. And you don't want to be exposed to it.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Hulkotron on April 29, 2014, 08:30:26 AM
Being one of the bigger guys here, I would not joke about matters regarding hypertrophy.

This is the real deal.

Should be a bannable offense.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
Should be a bannable offense.

hyper trophy and the anabolic window are sacred on here

they must be respected at all costs
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Nails on April 29, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
Cant even use them at my gym, there is always a line longer then the waiting line at the treadmill machines of 120 lb tiny tits waiting to do bicep curls on it




(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/sUSVwitVQbI/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: anab0lic on April 29, 2014, 08:58:40 AM
I got more growth in my pecs from a few months of doing a well thought out crossover routine than i did from YEARS of benching (just about every variation you can think of).... benching is primarily delts and tris and the chest only helps a little.   The worst developed bodypart I see in gyms is the pecs and yet everybody benches... think about it.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 09:02:40 AM
I got more growth in my pecs from a few months of doing a well thought out crossover routine than i did from YEARS of benching (just about every variation you can think of).... benching is primarily delts and tris and the chest only helps a little.   The worst developed bodypart I see in gyms is the pecs and yet everybody benches... think about it.
try Dips
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Rambone on April 29, 2014, 09:06:19 AM
Cant even use them at my gym, there is always a line longer then the waiting line at the treadmill machines of 120 lb tiny tits waiting to do bicep curls on it




(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/sUSVwitVQbI/hqdefault.jpg)

Fuckin hella gay. Gotta love the twinks with the 13 inch pipe cleaners that try this during the busiest time at the gym.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: anab0lic on April 29, 2014, 09:14:34 AM
try Dips

Dips are about the only pressing move i do for chest now and i do them gironda style, great for pec/shoulder tie in, but still leaves other areas lacking.   As a bodybuilder your goal should be to isolate the target muscle as best you can and the vast majority of pressing movements do not do that for the chest what so ever.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 09:14:38 AM
Cant even use them at my gym, there is always a line longer then the waiting line at the treadmill machines of 120 lb tiny tits waiting to do bicep curls on it

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/sUSVwitVQbI/hqdefault.jpg)

Is that Sev?
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: TheShape. on April 29, 2014, 09:24:28 AM
(http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/arnold-cable-crossover.jpg)
(http://www.iron-age-classic-bodybuilding.com/images/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_Chest_Workout.JPG)
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5a/6b/0c/5a6b0c3c1c7373ef58518b437a2cb18a.jpg)
(http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/images/pumping_iron.gif)
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 09:39:26 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Meaningless on April 29, 2014, 12:12:50 PM


5 minutes in :)
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Donny on April 29, 2014, 12:35:44 PM
Dips are about the only pressing move i do for chest now and i do them gironda style, great for pec/shoulder tie in, but still leaves other areas lacking.   As a bodybuilder your goal should be to isolate the target muscle as best you can and the vast majority of pressing movements do not do that for the chest what so ever.
Gironda had his way but i like parallel Bars. If you do Dips 100% the way it should be done you do not Need incline work.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Rambone on April 29, 2014, 12:37:55 PM


5 minutes in :)

Awwww Jesus, I do those about every chest workout. I thought there was a difference between cable flyes and crossovers, but I guess not. I guess I'm just another cable crossover twink. I'd never take up both sides of a multi-station cable machine though.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Icelord on April 29, 2014, 12:38:15 PM


5 minutes in :)
Why do bodybuilding videos always have shitty metal music in the background? Why can't they just show it with the people training and nothing else?
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: wes on April 29, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
Training pecs in general is just totally gay.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 29, 2014, 12:42:46 PM
Once Ron added the "Big" to my name, I only do hammer strength seated chest press, where I turn my body sideways on the chair and do one arm at the time.

Try it, wicked squeeze.

rofl

Was that fag on the jason genova video correct when he said to touch elbows on canle flys?

???

Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: illuminati on April 29, 2014, 01:06:57 PM
I don't do them because my boobs bounce all over the place (muscle is underneath implants) and it distracts not only myself but others in the gym.  








 :o :o  I'd like to see that.....
Video or pics or it didn't Happen. ha ha.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
Training pecs in general is just totally gay.

Don't make eye contact with the weights and you're safe.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
 If chest happens to fall on a Sunday afternoon I might do them but at the time I normally train not a hope of getting both cables. Can't do many pressing movements at the moment because of shoulder so they would be nice but not waiting +2mins to do an exercise.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Hulkotron on April 29, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
Training pecs in general is just totally gay.

Haha, yes it is.  If there's a gayest body part to train it is definite pecs.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Haha, yes it is.  If there's a gayest body part to train it is definite pecs.

Training the adductors in that machine that looks like a gynecologist's chair is definitely gayer.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: calfzilla on April 29, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
I really enjoy cable crossovers and find them to be a good finishing movement, love the squeeze.  :-X  :-\
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: JasonH on April 29, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
I did cable crossovers today at the end of my chest workout but that was the exception - just to do something different for a change. Normally I don't do them as I don't feel they work very well. Much prefer the pec-deck we have in our gym - can get a much better squeeze and stretch and it feels like more of the chest is being worked.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2014, 04:05:54 PM
Training the adductors in that machine that looks like a gynecologist's chair is definitely gayer.

That's the inner struggle I have. They're gay, but they add thickness to my quads.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 04:15:03 PM
That's the inner struggle I have. They're gay, but they add thickness to my quads.

Physio told me to do them. Just did wide stance squats. Can't squat now but in my new gym the gee press as we call it (gee = vagina) is only in women's area. Sorry IT band but not worth it.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 29, 2014, 04:33:30 PM
Physio told me to do them. Just did wide stance squats. Can't squat now but in my new gym the gee press as we call it (gee = vagina) is only in women's area. Sorry IT band but not worth it.

There's an alternative version. Sit on a bench between a cable crossover, grab both cables and place your hands between your knees.
Sumo like squats are -contrary to common belief- not that effective for the adductors, see http://www.ergo-log.com/squatsadductors.html
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 04:41:21 PM
There's an alternative version. Sit on a bench between a cable crossover, grab both cables and place your hands between your knees.
Sumo like squats are -contrary to common belief- not that effective for the adductors, see http://www.ergo-log.com/squatsadductors.html
#

I probably need more patience but after getting injured any time I squatted I just gave up and started doing lunges/leg press and leg extensions. I'm paying out E250 min on physio for my shoulder now, squat issue is tight extensors and knees so really don't feel like paying tons of physio with a holiday coming up.

Kind of derailing thread but tangent is a Greek word...
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: the trainer on April 29, 2014, 04:46:30 PM
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I probably need more patience but after getting injured any time I squatted I just gave up and started doing lunges/leg press and leg extensions. I'm paying out E250 min on physio for my shoulder now, squat issue is tight extensors and knees so really don't feel like paying tons of physio with a holiday coming up.

Kind of derailing thread but tangent is a Greek word...

If you got injured squatting it simply means that you where using improper form,use lighter weights and higher reps put on a lifting belt and practice your form.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
Haha, yes it is.  If there's a gayest body part to train it is definite pecs.

Strictly anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt, but I get the greatest amount of gay thoughts and imagery whenever I train pecs.

Coincidence? You tell me.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: claymore on April 29, 2014, 06:38:25 PM
only 110lb twinks do cable cross overs

true story

Agreed
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: thebrink on April 29, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
They bring out muscularity and thats it, no size..
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: Icelord on April 29, 2014, 07:53:33 PM
They bring out muscularity and thats it, no size..
WB
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: wes on April 29, 2014, 07:56:21 PM
Don't make eye contact with the weights and you're safe.
Now you tell me!  :(

OUTED
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: basil on April 29, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
I've been doing them on a regular basis the last several years.  They're a real shoulder saver.  I'll superset pushups w/crossovers, then superset pushups w/a pressing movement.  My shoulders haven't felt this good since my 20's and i have commendable chest development.  If you're in this for longevity, reduce the heaving pressing and add some crossover/fly work.  You're elbows and shoulders will thank you.
Title: Re: cable crossovers
Post by: thebrink on April 30, 2014, 03:54:05 PM
WB

 :)