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Title: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Darren Avey on May 20, 2014, 11:28:13 AM
I think the gear ive done has screwed my head up a bit. Im always in a rush, i look forward to somthing say a movie at the cinema then when im there i cant wait to get out of there, then i look forward to going to a freinds, then once i get there i cant wait to leave. Soccer games, MMA fights, etc etc i look forward to things then as soon as im there i cant wait to get the fuck away on to the next thing.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Wiggs on May 20, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
What does that have to do with gear?
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Darren Avey on May 20, 2014, 11:30:06 AM
Well im not like that when off.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
I think the gear ive done has screwed my head up a bit. Im always in a rush, i look forward to somthing say a movie at the cinema then when im there i cant wait to get out of there, then i look forward to going to a freinds, then once i get there i cant wait to leave. Soccer games, MMA fights, etc etc i look forward to things then as soon as im there i cant wait to get the fuck away on to the next thing.
your nervous central system / serotonin and dopamine productions are fucked up.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 11:32:36 AM
ADHD
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Darren Avey on May 20, 2014, 11:34:40 AM
ADHD? Na i dont believe in made up naughty little boy disease.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
ADHD? Na i dont believe in made up naughty little boy disease.
TBH you resemble a naughty little boy.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 11:47:04 AM
ADHD? Na i dont believe in made up naughty little boy disease.
ped, hormones, mess with the NCS what did you expect. It doesnt simply enhance metabolism and protein synthesis lol.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Darren Avey on May 20, 2014, 11:47:08 AM
Only when im shagging!
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: the trainer on May 20, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
I think the gear ive done has screwed my head up a bit. Im always in a rush, i look forward to somthing say a movie at the cinema then when im there i cant wait to get out of there, then i look forward to going to a freinds, then once i get there i cant wait to leave. Soccer games, MMA fights, etc etc i look forward to things then as soon as im there i cant wait to get the fuck away on to the next thing.

You need smoke some good weed and listen to bob marley.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Novena on May 20, 2014, 01:14:28 PM
ADHD? Na i dont believe in made up naughty little boy disease.

Okay…Let’s say for the ask of argument that Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is real.  Most researchers who deal with it have noticed a high correlation with gender.  Males predominate in it’s manifestation.  So there may be a connection to testosterone levels in the blood stream and the exhibition of the syndrome. (If it exists)
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 01:15:47 PM
i wouldnt be too surprised to learn most mothers of these kids were smoking while pregnant...
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: bigmikecox on May 20, 2014, 01:21:05 PM
Tren A is bad for me. I get EVERY side from it. Most annoying is the cough. It feels like im dying i cough so hard. Not fun at all. Then add the anxiety, night sweats and boners. THEN add 800mgs of test and 100mg of A50 to it. Im a mess
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
getbig has mentally affected me
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 01:37:04 PM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.





  
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.





  
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6367055616/hA83C5DE5/)
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 01:43:05 PM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.







  
fixed.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 01:47:16 PM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.





  
Now for my story. I've had an imaginary world in my head since I was a kid. It wasn't the kind with dragons and princesses.
My fantasy world was safe and loving. In this world, my Dad didn't hit me, no one yelled at me or got angry and me for obsessively counting things.
In this world, I felt like I belonged.
My reality wasn't so great as a child, but it did improve as I grew older and learned to stand up for myself.
But being a teenager was a whole new ball game.
I felt so inadequate, I was never good enough.
I couldn't live up to my own (unreasonably high) standards and that made me sad.
So I created my own little world in my head.
Although this time, I didn't just want my life to be perfect.
I made myself perfect. I gave myself a personality which I perceived as 'perfect'.
I eliminated all my flaws, I completely changed my physical appearance.
I had so many talents.
My favourite thing to do was imagine how impressed my friends and family would be if they saw my 'talents' but my personality in my dream world meant I was modest, so I didn't show my talents to anyone in real life.
That sounds so crazy but it was what kept me going.
It was the reason I would get out of bed in the morning.
My dream world got mixed with reality and I didn't know what was real and what wasn't anymore, I was having constant panic attacks and I was always so scared.
So I tried to leave this world, but I couldn't.
I didn't want to.
It kept on pulling me back, it was basically all I had.
It took awhile but I untangled my dream world from my reality.
I still spend a lot of time in this made up world and it does still interfere with my reality sometimes, but I don't mind.
It's one of the only places where I feel truly safe and happy and losing it would be like losing a part of me.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: _aj_ on May 20, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
You need smoke some good weed and listen to bob marley.

For once, I agree with Trainer.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 02:03:07 PM
Now for my story. I've had an imaginary world in my head since I was a kid. It wasn't the kind with dragons and princesses.
My fantasy world was safe and loving. In this world, my Dad didn't hit me, no one yelled at me or got angry and me for obsessively counting things.
In this world, I felt like I belonged.
My reality wasn't so great as a child, but it did improve as I grew older and learned to stand up for myself.
But being a teenager was a whole new ball game.
I felt so inadequate, I was never good enough.
I couldn't live up to my own (unreasonably high) standards and that made me sad.
So I created my own little world in my head.
Although this time, I didn't just want my life to be perfect.
I made myself perfect. I gave myself a personality which I perceived as 'perfect'.
I eliminated all my flaws, I completely changed my physical appearance.
I had so many talents.
My favourite thing to do was imagine how impressed my friends and family would be if they saw my 'talents' but my personality in my dream world meant I was modest, so I didn't show my talents to anyone in real life.
That sounds so crazy but it was what kept me going.
It was the reason I would get out of bed in the morning.
My dream world got mixed with reality and I didn't know what was real and what wasn't anymore, I was having constant panic attacks and I was always so scared.
So I tried to leave this world, but I couldn't.
I didn't want to.
It kept on pulling me back, it was basically all I had.
It took awhile but I untangled my dream world from my reality.
I still spend a lot of time in this made up world and it does still interfere with my reality sometimes, but I don't mind.
It's one of the only places where I feel truly safe and happy and losing it would be like losing a part of me.

And in the meantime while Simple Simon was  working on his autobiography while taking breaks in between posting on Get Big Uncle Junior drove over to Sainsbury's in is M6 Convertible, got couple of bottles of Chardonnay and packet of Marlboro lights, parked right in the whorehouse garage and got his dick sucked by Suzannah while filming it giving shout outs to Anabolic Halo and Shizzo on the merits of white blonde girls while simultaneously making several bets on his phone on the days horsing and sporting events in between going to the gym and running a plc and thought it would be hilarious to share it with you all.  :-*

Now tell me who is confusing reality with fiction?

On the next video I will be giving simple simon some shout outs. ;D

Mwah
x0x0x





Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Natural Man on May 20, 2014, 02:19:19 PM
Junior has a small cock! Junior has a small cock!
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 02:20:27 PM
Junior has a small cock! Junior has a small cock!

Nah man funny camera angle, 6 inches of peace.  ;D
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: the trainer on May 20, 2014, 02:21:01 PM
And in the meantime while Simple Simon was  working on his autobiography while taking breaks in between posting on Get Big Uncle Junior drove over to Sainsbury's in is M6 Convertible, got couple of bottles of Chardonnay and packet of Marlboro lights, parked right in the whorehouse garage and got his dick sucked by Suzannah while filming it giving shout outs to Anabolic Halo and Shizzo on the merits of white blonde girls while simultaneously making several bets on his phone on the days horsing and sporting events in between going to the gym and running a plc and thought it would be hilarious to share it with you all.  :-*

Now tell me who is confusing reality with fiction?

On the next video I will be giving simple simon some shout outs. ;D

Mwah
x0x0x







hahahaha end of thread I think simon got owned.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
And in the meantime while Simple Simon was  working on his autobiography while taking breaks in between posting on Get Big Uncle Junior drove over to Sainsbury's in is M6 Convertible, got couple of bottles of Chardonnay and packet of Marlboro lights, parked right in the whorehouse garage and got his dick sucked by Suzannah while filming it giving shout outs to Anabolic Halo and Shizzo on the merits of white blonde girls while simultaneously making several bets on his phone on the days horsing and sporting events in between going to the gym and running a plc and thought it would be hilarious to share it with you all.  :-*

Now tell me who is confusing reality with fiction?

On the next video I will be giving simple simon some shout outs. ;D

Mwah
x0x0x







"And woke up in the morning and looked in the bathroom mirror and this was still looking back at me."
(http://s17.postimg.org/4qkx180cv/avijun333.jpg)
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
"And woke up in the morning and looked in the bathroom mirror and this was still looking back at me."
(http://s17.postimg.org/4qkx180cv/avijun333.jpg)

Seriously (troll timeout) you accept I won today?

Just be gracious in defeat and admit I owned you hard today.

Tomorrow is another day, you will get another crack at it.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: tommywishbone on May 20, 2014, 02:56:35 PM
If the gear has not affected you at all, you simply aren't stepping on the gas hard enough. It changes everyone.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 03:00:23 PM
If the gear has not affected you at all, you simply aren't stepping on the gas hard enough. It changes everyone.

Its fucked up like I am almost kinda scared to step on the gas harder cos it will be too fucking hard.

I mean my resting fucking heart rate now is 90bpm it was fucking 45bmp only two months ago in the morning and gone up fucking 23lb in space of like 8 weeks.

Is it normal to feel totally fucking lethargic all the time and just wanna eat, sleep, fuck and party????

Like I workout for at least 2-3 hours everyday 6 times a week but just fucking feel ansy and on edge all the time, like totally fidgety and fucking mood swings are just like vile.

Like people annoy me, I don't want to hear their fucking voices.

 
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: BigRo on May 20, 2014, 03:02:57 PM
Sounds like gear isn't for you Junior.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 03:19:04 PM
Sounds like gear isn't for you Junior.

Fuck that BigRo, if I can handle coke and booze I can handle gear.

It's not even the fucking gear on its own, its the combination of the gear, smoking, partying and fucking atrocious diet all combined.

I just can't seem to stick to diet on gear, never had this problem natty (I mean yeah sure Id fuck up but I would get back on it asap)

Now I can't fucking do nothing right, Increased appetite, increased libido, highs and lows in energy, irritability etc but lots of fun too.

Training is totally on point, couldn't be happier with the training but the fucking diet man and rest, it's just abysmal.

Typical Day Example:

Wake up pin 4IU Genotropin go back to sleep + 250mg Test Mondays and Thursdays. Sometimes I go up to 750mg if I feel like it.

Take 10g BCCA +10G Glutamine go train weights for like 2 hours.

After workout , can of Redbull + Can of Coke, 2 packets Walkers Crisps.

Little bit later white rice + chicken stir fry with uncle bens sweet sour sauce, another can of coke.

Little bit later, homous and pitta bread.

Little bit later more rice and chicken stir fry, apple juice.

Little bit later nutella or choclate bar etc.

Evening go train again or do cardio about hour to hour and half.

Later protein shake with milk.

Its a fucking joke, my sugar consumption is just off the charts high and if I don't have it I go ape shit.

+ fucking smoking like 15-20 cigs now I don't know why test make me wanna smoke more.








 
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Alpine on May 20, 2014, 03:30:06 PM

Fuck that BigRo, if I can handle coke and booze I can handle gear.

It's not even the fucking gear on its own, its the combination of the gear, smoking, partying and fucking atrocious diet all combined.

I just can't seem to stick to diet on gear, never had this problem natty (I mean yeah sure Id fuck up but I would get back on it asap)

Now I can't fucking do nothing right, Increased appetite, increased libido, highs and lows in energy, irritability etc but lots of fun too.

Training is totally on point, couldn't be happier with the training but the fucking diet man and rest, it's just abysmal.

Typical Day Example:

Wake up pin 4IU Genotropin go back to sleep + 250mg Test Mondays and Thursdays. Sometimes I go up to 750mg if I feel like it.

Take 10g BCCA +10G Glutamine go train weights for like 2 hours.

After workout , can of Redbull + Can of Coke, 2 packets Walkers Crisps.

Little bit later white rice + chicken stir fry with uncle bens sweet sour sauce, another can of coke.

Little bit later, homous and pitta bread.

Little bit later more rice and chicken stir fry, apple juice.

Little bit later nutella or choclate bar etc.

Evening go train again or do cardio about hour to hour and half.

Later protein shake with milk.

Its a fucking joke, my sugar consumption is just off the charts high and if I don't have it I go ape shit.

+ fucking smoking like 15-20 cigs now I don't know why test make me wanna smoke more.
 

I think I figured out what your problem is, you're a fucking idiot. Your diet/cals/macros are a joke. You say you work out 2-3 hours 6 days a week and in the above you mention working out 2x a day. Your diet is not enough to support a 4x a week work out schedule let alone 6x a week and/or 2 a days. You're probably not even coming close to 150g of protein a day. You need to focus on diet. Gear and GH wont do shit unless your diet is decent. You should know this by now you fucktard. Anyone spending money on GH should know that. What a waste of time/money.

As for OP's question, there is zero doubt that being on heavy androgens effects MANY aspects of a male's perception and behavior. Tren is particularly notorious for this. So yes. Most of this goes away when your hormone levels return to normal but there is some evidence that long-term heavy androgen use can lead to spatial memory loss (more like reduced cognition) and dementia type symptoms.

http://mclean.harvard.edu/news/press/current.php?kw=mclean-study-finds-long-term-anabolic-androgenic-steroid-use-may-severely-impact-visuospatial-nemory&id=182

Quote
Pope and his colleagues discovered that those participants who were long-term AAS users did significantly worse than nonusers on a test called "Pattern Recognition Memory," where participants are asked to try to remember a collection of patterns that they have been presented on a computer screen. The scores on this test declined noticeably with increasing lifetime AAS dose. These results remained stable in sensitivity analyses addressing potential confounding factors, indicating that the findings were unlikely to be attributable to some factor other than AAS use.

Related: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121214143025.htm?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=long-term-anabolic-androgenic-steroid-use-may-impact-visuospatial-memory

Then again, optimized test at TRT levels generally shows improved cognitive function as compared to individuals with a test deficiency. So for health, moderation is the key. If you're older cruise at TRT dose and blast for maybe 2 short cycles a year. Monitor BP and lipids year round. Treat high BP on blast with low dose beta-blocker. Eat clean, cardio daily. This mitigates a lot of the negatives.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 03:35:57 PM
I think I figured out what your problem is, you're a fucking idiot. Your diet/cals/macros are a joke. You say you work out 2-3 hours 6 days a week and in the above you mention working out 2x a day. Your diet is not enough to support a 4x a week work out schedule let alone 6x a week and/or 2 a days. You're probably not even coming close to 150g of protein a day. You need to focus on diet. Gear and GH wont do shit unless your diet is decent. You should know this by now you fucktard. Anyone spending money on GH should know that. What a waste of time/money.

Basically you are 100% fucking right and I am a donkey.

Knowing something is one thing (I know where I am fucking up) but actually doing  something about it is something else.

I have sorta developed this attitude ever since going on gear of I'll do what I want, when I want and how I want with the diet and off course it doesn't work like that I know.

I put on size but got way fat too.

I need someone to kick my arse into gear and make me stick to a fucking diet for like 3 weeks until I get into a routine cos right now I am to the point where I am not even fucking trying with the diet and just trying to constantly outrain fucking horrible diet and its making me more tired and pissed off.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Alpine on May 20, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Basically you are 100% fucking right and I am a donkey.

Knowing something is one thing (I know where I am fucking up) but actually doing  something about it is something else.

I have sorta developed this attitude ever since going on gear of I'll do what I want, when I want and how I want with the diet and off course it doesn't work like that I know.

I put on size but got way fat too.

I need someone to kick my arse into gear and make me stick to a fucking diet for like 3 weeks until I get into a routine cos right now I am to the point where I am not even fucking trying with the diet and just trying to constantly outrain fucking horrible diet and its making me more tired and pissed off.



I see a lot of text but not a let of message. It's just a lot of deluded rambling and self rationalization. When you want it bad enough, you'll get it. You will take it. That is how the world works. Until then you are just treading water with everyone else; waiting for some miraculous change to fall from the sky.

May I suggest you start the metamorphosis by deleting your getbig account, sell your car, donate the proceeds and all savings to Ron and then AN HERO your fucking self in a $30 a night hotel room and live blog the bleed out here in the forum under an unknown gimmick account.  
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 03:46:15 PM
I see a lot of text but not a let of message. It's just a lot of deluded rambling and self rationalization. When you want it bad enough, you'll get it. You will take it. That is how the world works.

You know what I should post up some pics so people can make fun of how fat I have become and it will serve as motivation to get back into shape.

I want people to completely fucking slag me off.

I think I am probably around 35% body fat now.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Alpine on May 20, 2014, 03:48:40 PM

I think I am probably around 35% body fat now.

Jesus Christ dude. Way to let yourself go. I would definitely end it. Honestly I wish you would just kill yourself now so I dont have to see your colored text anymore. Its annoying and your posts are devoid of wit. You bring nothing to the table.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Jesus Christ dude. Way to let yourself go. I would definitely end it.

Hold on few mins gonna post some pics.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 04:00:40 PM
Jesus Christ dude. Way to let yourself go. I would definitely end it. Honestly I wish you would just kill yourself now so I dont have to see your colored text anymore. Its annoying and your posts are devoid of wit. You bring nothing to the table.

Here you go, let the piss taking and name calling begin.

200lbs now, was 175ish about 2 to 2 and half months ago...lol.

I am fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Alpine on May 20, 2014, 04:08:40 PM

Here you go, let the piss taking and name calling begin.

200lbs now, was 175ish about 2 to 2 and half months ago...lol.

I am fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty, I am a fatty.



Honestly, you look like a smooth all natural guy who lifts sporadically. It's amazing you take 500-750mg of test a week and real GH and still look like that. I would say everything in your life is OUT of place except your drug usage. That is why you look the way you do.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Honestly, you look like a smooth all natural guy who lifts sporadically. It's amazing you take 500-750mg of test a week and real GH and still look like that. I would say everything in your life is OUT of place except your drug usage. That is why you look the way you do.

Yeah I look like shit but I am trying to put on size.

I started cycle of test 8 weeks ago for first time ever, first few weeks I shot 250mg then 2nd and 3rd week I shot up to 500mg and went up to 750 before coming back down to 500mg.

Also I only started the GH about 12 days ago and reason I started it was to help heal my left shoulder which needs surgery cos I have bursitis and impingement.

Also my AI dose is very low and I know when I up it an do Keto I will get rid of water quickly and harden up a bit.

No fucking idea how fat I am right now, got to be at least 25% I think so I am fucked, might as well try to put on as much size as possible.

Adding 500mg NNP shortly on top of the test and gonna go  up to 1g a week.

If I ever get down to like 10-12% BF I will add in winny and the cutting stuff.

I kinda wanna go up to 240lb and then cut down to like 10% BF if possible at around 200-210 ultimately.

I will probably fuck it all up.


Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Lustral on May 20, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Good arm genes Junior. Cut down and they will be envious.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 20, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
I mean the pic are deceiving cos the fat covering up all the muscle, I definitely have more muscle now.

This was me last summer, probably 12-14% BF maybe all natty at 178lb just to give you an idea.

Difference was I was on 100g carbs in this pic eating about 1800 cals to 2000 cals etc.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Alpine on May 20, 2014, 04:19:25 PM
I feel like Im responding to posts on Bodybuilding.com or something at this point. I quit for today.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: BigRo on May 20, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
what pic? did you take it down?

You could do with some yoga and meditation classes.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: nasum on May 20, 2014, 05:11:22 PM

Fuck that BigRo, if I can handle coke and booze I can handle gear.

It's not even the fucking gear on its own, its the combination of the gear, smoking, partying and fucking atrocious diet all combined.

I just can't seem to stick to diet on gear, never had this problem natty (I mean yeah sure Id fuck up but I would get back on it asap)

Now I can't fucking do nothing right, Increased appetite, increased libido, highs and lows in energy, irritability etc but lots of fun too.

Training is totally on point, couldn't be happier with the training but the fucking diet man and rest, it's just abysmal.

Typical Day Example:

Wake up pin 4IU Genotropin go back to sleep + 250mg Test Mondays and Thursdays. Sometimes I go up to 750mg if I feel like it.

Take 10g BCCA +10G Glutamine go train weights for like 2 hours.

After workout , can of Redbull + Can of Coke, 2 packets Walkers Crisps.

Little bit later white rice + chicken stir fry with uncle bens sweet sour sauce, another can of coke.

Little bit later, homous and pitta bread.

Little bit later more rice and chicken stir fry, apple juice.

Little bit later nutella or choclate bar etc.

Evening go train again or do cardio about hour to hour and half.

Later protein shake with milk.

Its a fucking joke, my sugar consumption is just off the charts high and if I don't have it I go ape shit.

+ fucking smoking like 15-20 cigs now I don't know why test make me wanna smoke more.


You're even worse than me. I shouldn't really be juicing owing to my intermittent bouts of depression (although it never affects me enough to interrupt my work, meeting with friends, and hobbies; sometimes I just have to lie down while the surging ennui courses through my tortured psyche). But you're full-on retarded with this shit.

Partying and PED usage are mutually exclusive. Do one or the other. What's the point of doing both? You'll wreck your health and your gym gains will not be good enough to justify the toll gear takes on the body.

175lbs is not your natural limit. And from the pictures you took you were a soft 175lbs. You can't diet and train correctly, so why are you juicing?
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: calfzilla on May 20, 2014, 05:14:18 PM
I don't think it's gear, sounds like you have some social anxiety. I got it a little too. Spend a lot of time alone and enjoy it. When I do go hang out I have to drive my car because I NEED an escape plan. Can't stand the feeling of being stuck somewhere when I want to go.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: nasum on May 20, 2014, 05:14:33 PM
BigRo is right junior.

I am a condescending and pretentious prick, but I'm not entirely malicious. So I say this with some good intentions and not simply for the sake of being patriarchal.

But meditation and seeing a psychiatrist to discuss your mental health issues would be in your best interest.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: HTexan on May 20, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
If the gear has not affected you at all, you simply aren't stepping on the gas hard enough. It changes everyone.
So if you had the change to go back and do it over, would you choose to not to start?
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: wolfrittner on May 20, 2014, 06:57:04 PM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.


You need to sit down with your Daddy and have a good long talk. deep inside you are very mad at him because he didn't raise you like a boy. You have some serious father issues junior. Im not kidding you.
 Check with your shrink you might find out a thing or two. You need to stop getting your fathers approval (because you are not getting it)and your drug and alcohol  use will be greatly reduced.
Obviously he was very abusive to your mother as well.
 That's why you treat ugly women like shit. You know it. Once you get to the bottom of it ,life might be worthy of living. Till then you are just acting out your daddy issues on a big scale and only hurt yourself.
Your father might never give you the attention and approval you are looking for. He thinks you had everything in life for free and didn't even have to work for it. You think you need to prove him wrong. That's why you are angry and not because you are taking Proviron and Finststeride.
I wish I could make you get help



  
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: tommywishbone on May 20, 2014, 08:36:02 PM
So if you had the change to go back and do it over, would you choose to not to start?

Actually, perhaps my answer could have been more detailed.

The psychological changes are all almost temporary, IMO. Once you/me gets off the gear, we revert to what we were. We always know things that we never knew (how your body responses) but it's my opinion that the mental changes are only temporary.

Changes (mental) I have seen in others and personally experienced:

- Aggression
- Extreme aggression  :D
- Mood swings
- Euphoria for no particular reason
- Extreme hunger urges
- Extreme sexual aggression
- Zero sex drive
- Ballistic insatiable sex drive
  
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: chaos on May 20, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
I think the gear ive done has screwed my head up a bit. Im always in a rush, i look forward to somthing say a movie at the cinema then when im there i cant wait to get out of there, then i look forward to going to a freinds, then once i get there i cant wait to leave. Soccer games, MMA fights, etc etc i look forward to things then as soon as im there i cant wait to get the fuck away on to the next thing.
You're quickly catching anabolichalo,  you sawed off little shit.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Simple Simon on May 20, 2014, 09:41:47 PM
I think I figured out what your problem is, you're a fucking idiot. Your diet/cals/macros are a joke. You say you work out 2-3 hours 6 days a week and in the above you mention working out 2x a day. Your diet is not enough to support a 4x a week work out schedule let alone 6x a week and/or 2 a days. You're probably not even coming close to 150g of protein a day. You need to focus on diet. Gear and GH wont do shit unless your diet is decent. You should know this by now you fucktard. Anyone spending money on GH should know that. What a waste of time/money.

Yep, after this last post Im not even going to address this fuckwipe again.
He will write anything down on these pages to get a rise out of anyone, I have tried taking him seriously and giving him advice but he just fucks about in the very next response and acts the fucking idiot.

Hes through.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: A Righteous Sort on May 20, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
Now for my story. I've had an imaginary world in my head since I was a kid. It wasn't the kind with dragons and princesses.
My fantasy world was safe and loving. In this world, my Dad didn't hit me, no one yelled at me or got angry and me for obsessively counting things.
In this world, I felt like I belonged.
My reality wasn't so great as a child, but it did improve as I grew older and learned to stand up for myself.
But being a teenager was a whole new ball game.
I felt so inadequate, I was never good enough.
I couldn't live up to my own (unreasonably high) standards and that made me sad.
So I created my own little world in my head.
Although this time, I didn't just want my life to be perfect.
I made myself perfect. I gave myself a personality which I perceived as 'perfect'.
I eliminated all my flaws, I completely changed my physical appearance.
I had so many talents.
My favourite thing to do was imagine how impressed my friends and family would be if they saw my 'talents' but my personality in my dream world meant I was modest, so I didn't show my talents to anyone in real life.
That sounds so crazy but it was what kept me going.
It was the reason I would get out of bed in the morning.
My dream world got mixed with reality and I didn't know what was real and what wasn't anymore, I was having constant panic attacks and I was always so scared.
So I tried to leave this world, but I couldn't.
I didn't want to.
It kept on pulling me back, it was basically all I had.
It took awhile but I untangled my dream world from my reality.
I still spend a lot of time in this made up world and it does still interfere with my reality sometimes, but I don't mind.
It's one of the only places where I feel truly safe and happy and losing it would be like losing a part of me.

Hahahaha owned
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: SF1900 on May 20, 2014, 11:31:03 PM
Darren, you're on gear? For christ sake, Goodrum looks better than you  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 20, 2014, 11:49:57 PM
When i was with my ex i told her that i used to take dat der roidz when i was younger and that im going to do it again so my kid has the strongest dad in kindergarden (lol no). She got alittlte bit mad cause her psyko ex got angry on roids but he was a nutcade before to. But after a couple of months she said she didnt notice any difference in my mood, only difference was i was a bigger perv on. No she plans on jumping on the anavar train
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 12:02:20 AM
I think the gear ive done has screwed my head up a bit. Im always in a rush, i look forward to somthing say a movie at the cinema then when im there i cant wait to get out of there, then i look forward to going to a freinds, then once i get there i cant wait to leave. Soccer games, MMA fights, etc etc i look forward to things then as soon as im there i cant wait to get the fuck away on to the next thing.

I'm the exact same way, I can't really just sit back and enjoy anything. Unless I'm drinking, then I want to stay all night.

I've never used gear.

Funny how you said you look forward to it (I'm the same)...

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on May 21, 2014, 12:03:25 AM
I'm the exact same way, I can't really just sit back and enjoy anything.

I've never used gear. (No homo)

Funny how you said you look forward to it (I'm the same)...
fixed it
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 12:05:02 AM
fixed it

Thanks!  ;D

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: calfzilla on May 21, 2014, 01:05:04 AM
Social anxiety disorder of peace.
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: dyslexic on May 21, 2014, 02:03:20 AM
The bodybuilders that were really pushing the limits in the late 80's and all of the 90's are some seriously fucked up individuals.

You'd swear they were ex-meth heads.


It fucks you up... permanently.


It does depend on how long you stayed on and how much shit you used. Some guys had enough sense to stop in time... others... they are still trying to be who they once were, others are just managing to get through each day.


I could name-drop, but that would be totally ignorant. Just trust me when I say, long-term high dosages of shit fucks you up permanently. It doesn't just have to be juice....


Young guys aren't gonna want to believe it, which is why they always say when they get older "if I could do it all over again" or "if I knew then what I know now" ~ these quips and quotes are around for a reason.


Some guys just DO NOT KNOW where to draw the line or where to call it quits.


Anyone my age or close to it who has been in the industry as long as I have will agree... unless you are blind or in denial.


Play today. Pay tomorrow.


It's that way with EVERYTHING.


Don't believe me? Fine.


It hurts me NOT.


There will come a day when EVERYONE will look back and reflect over their past. Unfortunately, most will have regrets. Bodybuilders? Possibly more than most.


Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 21, 2014, 02:20:49 AM
Yeah big time, first time actually got violent last week. Swear down this is truth. Got to control this shit.

Sarah started accusing me of shagging around again, said fuck this, threw straight right at the kitchen cupboard (thought I broke my finger), fucking thing went flying 10 meters of the hinge took me forever to fix that shit later.

Then I went gym and banged out chest in a mood and start throwing weights around like a muthafucker.

Then went whorehouse popped 100mg Kamagra and fucked this 20 year old latino chick and then went Nandos.

Then went Josephine's later in evening got some flowers and brought back to my girl and said soz took her out for Chinese got her pissed and fucked her too.

Then I woke up next day and pinned again.





  
Did the cupboard hit back?
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 21, 2014, 03:50:00 AM
Im on gear about 8 years now, I am a borderline psychopath, I might have been anyway had I not taken gear, who knows, I can hide it well
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 21, 2014, 03:51:05 AM
Im on gear about 8 years now, I am a borderline psychopath, I might have been anyway had I not taken gear, who knows, I can hide it well
Im a lunatic without gear...Im calmer when on
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 21, 2014, 03:53:17 AM
Im a lunatic without gear...Im calmer when on
x2
Depression, anxiety and incredibly short-tempered I am off the gear
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: bigmc on May 21, 2014, 05:32:42 AM
the only thing that ever affected my moods negatively was tren

on test I just wanted to fuck all the time

imo it only enhances moods you are already subject too

if you are angry you will be slightly more angry etc
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: WillGrant on May 21, 2014, 05:35:46 AM
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 21, 2014, 06:39:23 AM

Great song/gig. Your whole Booty debacle is now forgotten
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: WillGrant on May 21, 2014, 06:42:13 AM
Great song/gig. Your whole Booty debacle is now forgotten
I put that down to a bad curry - that would make any ones booty bottom explode runny shite  :D
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 21, 2014, 06:43:16 AM
I put that down to a bad curry - that would make any ones booty bottom explode runny shite  :D
So thats why she liked you.... ;D
Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Uncle Junior on May 21, 2014, 07:23:37 AM
the only thing that ever affected my moods negatively was tren

on test I just wanted to fuck all the time

imo it only enhances moods you are already subject too

if you are angry you will be slightly more angry etc

Yeah fucking test makes you horny as fuck, I add in 75mg Prov + 100mg Kamagra before a session and fucking turn into Peter North.

Can't wait to try tren.


Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: WillGrant on May 21, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
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Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 21, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
Pretty interesting. Steroids make exercise more reinforcing. This may cause steroid dependence.

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Exercise reinforcement, stress, and β-endorphins: An initial examination of exercise in anabolic-androgenic steroid dependence.
Hildebrandt T1, Shope S2, Varangis E2, Klein D3, Pfaff DW4, Yehuda R5.
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Abstract
BACKGROUND:

Anabolic-androgenic steroids (AASs) are abused primarily in the context of intense exercise and for the purposes of increasing muscle mass as opposed to drug-induced euphoria. AASs also modulate the HPA axis and may increase the reinforcing value of exercise through changes to stress hormone and endorphin release. To test this hypothesis, 26 adult males drawn from a larger study on AAS use completed a progressive ratio task designed to examine the reinforcing value of exercise relative to financial reinforcer.
METHOD:

Sixteen experienced and current users (8 on-cycle, 8 off-cycle) and 10 controls matched on quantity×frequency of exercise, age, and education abstained from exercise for 24h prior to testing and provided 24-h cortisol, plasma cortisol, ACTH, β-endorphin samples, and measures of mood, compulsive exercise, and body image.
RESULTS:

Between group differences indicated that on-cycle AAS users had the highest β-endorphin levels, lowest cortisol levels, higher ACTH levels than controls. Conversely, off-cycle AAS users had the highest cortisol and ACTH levels, but the lowest β-endorphin levels. Exercise value was positively correlated with β-endorphin and symptoms of AAS dependence.
CONCLUSION:

The HPA response to AASs may explain why AASs are reinforcing in humans and exercise may play a key role in the development of AAS dependence.

Title: Re: Has gear mentally affected you
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 22, 2014, 01:39:22 AM
No not one bit.