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With my HS football players. First lift was my son, a 175lb Varsity QB (Junior). The second a 220lb Varsity Center (Sophomore) 445 and 450lbs Box Squat. Five records were broken today. If I would have let him, he probably had 455lbs in him.
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With my HS football players. First lift was my son, a 175lb Varsity QB (Junior). The second a 220lb Varsity Center (Sophomore) 445 and 450lbs Box Squat. Five records were broken today. If I would have let him, he probably had 455lbs in him.
Way to blow out the lower back, WTF is all the sitting down and taking all the muscle contraction out of the equation and curving the spine?
Thats probably the dumbest training vid I have ever seen
Destroyed backs before they are 30
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Way to blow out the lower back, WTF is all the sitting down and taking all the muscle contraction out of the equation and curving the spine?
Thats probably the dumbest training vid I have ever seen
Destroyed backs before they are 30
Are you mental? lol
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Are you mental?
No, a squat should be done under tension.
Seriously, watch those lower backs roll without any muscular stability.
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No, a squat should be done under tension.
Seriously, watch those lower backs roll without any muscular stability.
It's not bodybuilding..lol
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i would never perform a box squat
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It's not bodybuilding..lol
No, its fucking stupid.
Carry on though, I couldnt give a fuck about some random kids back.
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i would never perform a box squat
Exactly, at the crucial point all the tension comes off the legs and the entire load is transferred to the discs of the lower back
Stupid.
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No, its fucking stupid.
Carry on though, I couldnt give a fuck about some random kids back.
If you think it's stupid then you should explain your position. One of the reasons why we squat in this manner, is to create more power and strengthen the posterior chain as you know includes the lower back.
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Coach your son is only 175 pounds its time for him to bulk up.
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If you think it's stupid then you should explain your position. One of the reasons why we squat in this manner, is to create more power and strengthen the posterior chain as you know includes the lower back.
See above post
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See above post
How much do you ACTUALLY know what's involved in that lift? Would you know how to teach it and cue it? BTW, I LOVE debating this shit.
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i would understand it as a touch and go, you use the box seat a reference point on how low to go as soon as your ass feels it squat up, but to sit on it and then squat from a position of taking a shit with a bar of weights on it just feels painful on the lower back ,
i personally just do normal squats , as the legs get strong the weight increases in my workouts , simple but works for me
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Exactly, at the crucial point all the tension comes off the legs and the entire load is transferred to the discs of the lower back
Stupid.
No "tension" comes off and at no point is any muscle relaxed.
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i would never perform a box squat
No shit. All risk, no payoff - except for MPF film residuals.
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No shit. All risk, no payoff - except for MPF film residuals.
The payoff is a stronger athlete with less risk of an injury.
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With my HS football players. First lift was my son, a 175lb Varsity QB (Junior). The second a 220lb Varsity Center (Sophomore) 445 and 450lbs Box Squat. Five records were broken today. If I would have let him, he probably had 455lbs in him.
They should drastically lower the weight and work on form instead.
That kid on the very right at the start of the video looks like a dwarf and has a dwarf head.
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Way to blow out the lower back, WTF is all the sitting down and taking all the muscle contraction out of the equation and curving the spine?
Thats probably the dumbest training vid I have ever seen
Destroyed backs before they are 30
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No idea they were squatting. I thought it was taking a dump practice.
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They would all probably get more out of raking some leaves instead. At least there would be a purpose. :-\
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Who organize this squatting charade? It's a F'ck joke! Try having these kids full squat a 25 lb pound plate on either side first!
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Who organize this squatting charade? It's a F'ck joke! Try having these kids full squat a 25 lb pound plate on either side first!
I did. Feel free to speak on this.
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I did. Feel free to speak on this.
I think you are getting the message coach.
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I think you are getting the message coach.
I purposely post this on here to get a reaction and spark debate.
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I purposely post this on here to get a reaction and spark debate.
Putting your sons future at risk by allowing him to blow his low back isn't a rational approach in stimulating debate, dont let me stop you though.
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Putting your sons future at risk by allowing him to blow his low back isn't a rational approach in stimulating debate, dont let me stop you though.
The chances of that happening to him or anyone else that has been doing this for any length of time are slim to none. Do you actually think I'm not knowledgable enough to know what works and what doesn't to put my son or another client at risk?
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Joe Montana never did a single squat in his playing days
as an old man he still needs lesson on doing air squats
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Joe Montana never did a single squat in his playing days
as an old man he still needs lesson on doing air squats
Not everyone is built to squat. I've said this before.
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Not everyone is built to squat. I've said this before.
Agree
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If you think it's stupid then you should explain your position. One of the reasons why we squat in this manner, is to create more power and strengthen the posterior chain as you know includes the lower back.
Why should he explain anything? You get questioned all the time and then its : "Blah Blah Blah Liberals......Blah Blah Blah I hate Crossfit......Blah Blah Blah I have 50yrs of practical lifting experience.....Blah Blah Blah I am too busy to answer....."
Seems like not a single fuck was given about that video....awwww poor Coachie
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Why should he explain anything? You get questioned all the time and then its : "Blah Blah Blah Liberals......Blah Blah Blah I hate Crossfit......Blah Blah Blah I have 50yrs of practical lifting experience.....Blah Blah Blah I am too busy to answer....."
Seems like not a single fuck was given about that video....awwww poor Coachie
Not sure what liberals have to do with this thread.....but give me time, I'm sure I can find a reason. How's that poor crossfitter doing that was paralyzed because some dumb fuck left bumpers near the platform?
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Not sure what liberals have to do with this thread.....but give me time, I'm sure I can find a reason. How's that poor crossfitter doing that was paralyzed because some dumb fuck left bumpers near the platform?
Jesus spared his life and he has given himself completely to the lord. Are you happy now? >:(
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Jesus spared his life and he has given himself completely to the lord. Are you happy now? >:(
Shut up TA. Go bake a cake.
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http://www.westside-barbell.com/index.php/the-westside-barbell-university/articles-by-louie-simmons/articles-published-in-2005/378-box-squatting-benefits
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http://www.westside-barbell.com/index.php/the-westside-barbell-university/articles-by-louie-simmons/articles-published-in-2005/378-box-squatting-benefits
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i would never perform a box squat
I switched to box squatting with a cambered bar a year ago. For me, I think it's much safer than regular squatting.
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I don't know why you bother posting...ur never gonna get a debate on the value of the box as part of the squat. Half these people don't squat..can't squat..don't know how to squat etc. The stuff those kids are doing is pretty normal and the squats looked good. You people want to really get jazzed up...most of the high school powerlifting teams in my area of Texas all have the kids compete in gear.
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Not sure what liberals have to do with this thread.....but give me time, I'm sure I can find a reason. How's that poor crossfitter doing that was paralyzed because some dumb fuck left bumpers near the platform?
Perhaps you should write him and ask him. Also, how do you know that his accident wasn't in Gods plan? What does he have to do with people not praising you on your video?
I know, I just asked you two things....it will be a HUGE stretch for you to answer.
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I've used it to get people to understand what depth is. We fixed a guy Saturday who was basically good morning every squat, heavy or not and could never get to 90. A few minutes on the box and his back got straight and his chest came up. These kids will be expected to squat big at the next level so its a useful tool.
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I switched to box squatting with a cambered bar a year ago. For me, I think it's much safer than regular squatting.
You are wrong regular ass to grass squats are the best for your legs and core muscles, the problem is you guys tend to use more weights than you can handle injure yourself and fuck up your joints and back then blame it on squats
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A cambered or safety bar works for people with poor mobility. I'd rather somebody use that who can't correctly grab the bar because of screwed up shoulders. If you have other issues I don't think those bars are gonna help you...better off skipping it.
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A cambered or safety bar works for people with poor mobility. I'd rather somebody use that who can't correctly grab the bar because of screwed up shoulders. If you have other issues I don't think those bars are gonna help you...better off skipping it.
I had shoulder surgery which limited flexibility for awhile, and I need the procedure on the right side as well, so the cambered bar is perfect for me.
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You are wrong regular ass to grass squats are the best for your legs and core muscles, the problem is you guys tend to use more weights than you can handle injure yourself and fuck up your joints and back then blame it on squats
My body insn't suited for deep squats like that - long torso, shorter legs, and poor hip and hamstring flexibility. I've tried, and I don't have the time to get to that. Box squats with the cambered bar are perfect.
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I had shoulder surgery which limited flexibility for awhile, and I need the procedure on the right side as well, so the cambered bar is perfect for me.
Then its perfect. One of my training partners is getting ready to have both shoulders done and is going to either buy a full bar or get that Dave Draper thing for the gym bars.