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Title: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
 
i have had people query thru pm about this new system i said i was coming out with, to pair with with galieniko/ no one method of dieting.

so, heres a teaser. this book will be free to anyone who pms me for it that wants to better their bodies, their training, their recovery and discard preconcieved notions of what they had thought possible.

im not going to argue it, or debate it. take what i write and apply it. then come talk to me.

cheers.




pg 1.

AT4


The Creation of the Ultimate Human Machine


by Rob Macdonald/ 'no one'

pg 2

What is AT4?

AT4 is an acronym for a system of training designed to take you from your present state of functioning and create in yourself the ability to be better. to be a better more resilient more highly functioning machine.

doesnt that sound appealing? of course it does. who wouldnt want to create more tissue, repair faster, become more efficient or increase ones ability to handle work loads? thats why we do this. well then, why arent we all the machines that we strive to be. the answer is simple. we dont train enough. we dont push enough. we dont break down barriers in our thinking, in our belief systems, in our own bodies ability to 'do work'.

if your reading this, chances are you have read the 'galineko/ no one method'- a system of eating designed to drop fat off you more quickly than any method of fat loss today, and have you maintain that weight loss into perpetuity using the concepts we outlined in the book. when i co wrote that book i came across so much opposition that it was almost bordering on hatred simply because that book attacked the 'norms' in dieting. in that book we advanced that you could gain tissue in a deficit. you could have unlimited energy in a severe deficit. that you could feel great in a severe deficit, all the while losing fat more quickly than any other diet out there. i spent more time defensing my position from people who had never tried it, than i did answering questions from people who wanted to try it.

so, dear reader, if you do decide to turn this page, and trust me one more time, be warned your old ways of thinking are going to be screaming 'its IMPOSSIBLE!' . and im ok with that. cause quite frankly, what i propose SOUNDS impossible. but before you get out the rope, and get ready to string me up for preaching my heresy, apply what i am telling you, and reap the benefits and create in yourself your own human machine.

pg 3.

Of Doug White, Montgomery Paisley, and Las Vegas Boulevard.

how did i come up with AT4? it was quite by accident i suppose. i think subconsciously i had been creating it for years in my head, based on two distinct memories from my past, but i think i finally consciously allowed myself to believe it was possible as i was walking down Las Vegas Boulevard this summer during the saturday morning of memorial day weekend.

i had just left the gym a shambles, and was walking back to the hotel at 9am. i felt great. my training was on point. i had become very, very efficient in the gym. i had been training with no rest between sets for over 2 years now, and now i can handle training loads without resting between sets for the entirety of my session. a small thing, but having trained my body to accomplish this kind of resiliency i take pride in it. i might not be the strongest guy in the gym, but i am the handsomest, and i doubt many could hang with the tempo of my workout.

as i walked i thought to myself, 'what am i going to train tomorrow?'. you see, i train my whole body every 48 hours, and i had just smashed my back, chest, arms and shoulders all in the same session. since i use cycling alone for my leg training that meant i wouldnt be able to train my upper body again tomorrow, because i had just smashed it today, right? of course, thats what we are programmed to think. and its this stop gap in our thinking that has been preventing us all from achieving our best. but i digress.

as i pondered this conundrum of just what the hell i was going to train tomorrow now, doug white came to mind. it was odd, having just left the gym, thinking about my workout, to have a friend from my childhood just magically pop himself into my train of thought. but like i said, the subconscious works in strange ways.

doug was a guy i had gone to highschool with. he lived on a farm, and was as handy as pockets on a shirt. he wasnt going to be a doctor or a lawyer. he was going to work with his hands and found employment as a roofer out of school, on his way to becoming a carpenter. the thing i remember most about doug when i think of him was the size of his forearms. he was such a little guy- might have been 5'8 and 160 but his forearms from roofing and swinging a hammer all day were massive. odd, right? the guy never trained with weights. never counted grams of protein. never trained for hypertrophy, but he had the biggest forearms i had ever seen. from using them all day. every single day.

then i thought of monte paisley. if you google monte paisley you'll see that he was a former JTF special ops kinda guy who for some reason got his wires crossed, and got himself into some trouble with the CDN military. it was in the media, he had deserted and the whole country was looking for him. he was a pretty specially trained guy. and he was in my mind the ultimate human machine. and example of what the body could do- but not me, right? no, i could never be monte, cause i didnt have the 'genetics'.

you see, monte, was to me, as a 22 year old skinny kid who had just started training, the ultimate dude. the guy looked like a california beach boy. but a jacked to fuck california beach boy. like probably the best physique i have seen to this day in real life. dense quality tissue. well proportioned. the guy just looked godly.

and he was a cardio machine. 'what did you get up to this weekend?' i said to him one monday when i saw him at the gym on the stationary bike where pools of sweat had gathered underneath the pedals he effortlessly pushed for hours on end. hes like 'well i decided to go buy a jeep. so i got on my bike and rode into pembroke to see what they had. wasnt impressed so i rode out to eganville to look but theres no jeep dealer there, so i went to renfrew, found one i like, bought it, and it wasnt going to be plated till today, so i rode home thru beachburg, and stopped for chinese food at that little restaurant, before i headed back to pet(awawa)'.

ever had a moment in your life when you catch yourself with your jaw open. this was one of those moments. monte had just told me he cycled 190 km to 'buy a jeep' and here he was on the stationary bike the next day. the guy was a fucking machine.

and so it was doug white and monte paisley came into my head as i walked down LVBD after my gym session wonder wtf am i going to train tomorrow.

and monte, if for some strange reason your reading this, get at me. id love to shake your hand and buy you a beer. and thank you for making me realise your only limit is the limit you put on yourself.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: the trainer on June 09, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
Sorry no one but i will not read your bullshit wall of text if you make some cliff notes I might take a look.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: TEH boob on June 09, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
Sorry no one but i will not read your bullshit wall of text if you make some cliff notes I might take a look.

stfu, trainer, bow down
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Foozle on June 09, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Sorry no one but i will not read your bullshit wall of text if you make some cliff notes I might take a look.

You won't read it because you have dried sperm in your eye, buttstuffer.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Knooger on June 09, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
Sorry no one but i will not read your bullshit wall of text if you make some cliff notes I might take a look.

That isn't a wall of text, I think Foozle is right about you having semen in your eyes, man-ass rammer.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: King Shizzo on June 09, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
Kudos to you no one. You are trying to help people, and you have the physique to back it up.

Dont listen to the haters.

Let us know how to get the rest of this info.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
Kudos to you no one. You are trying to help people, and you have the physique to back it up.

Dont listen to the haters.

Let us know how to get the rest of this info.

thanks dude. and thats what its all about- helping people be their best..

it'll be given to anyone who pms for it.

it'll format it as a pdf. im still putting it together but have the nuts and bolts. just need to format it all and a few odds and ends here and there.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 05:33:45 PM
stfu, trainer, bow down


;)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 09, 2014, 05:35:50 PM
Awesome!  The last thread was one of the best ever posted on getbig....can't wait to see what is in store with this one.

no one is the man.  Super helpful, and has a lot of knowledge you can't find anywhere else.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Quickerblade on June 09, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
that was a great pdf No One and gal.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wolfrittner on June 09, 2014, 06:09:06 PM
Knowing "No one" this is just like the" no bullshit" book version. I totally liked the two chapters. I'm in for the rest of it.
Cant wait to see what's in store for me . Thanks to No one and Gal for putting there knowledge/experience in a book for everyone to have. More then most people would do... W.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wolfrittner on June 09, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Will there be advice on how to handle getting disrespected on say, the Internet, or even a grocery store parking lot? What about sewing up your wounds with guitar wire after a "cage" fight in prison?

This is what GB needs to know.
you get that on getbig every day!
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Ex Coelis on June 09, 2014, 06:49:28 PM

AT4 is an acronym


becoming an 'ultimate human machine' is my job. what do the 'a.t.' and '4' stand for?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Will there be advice on how to handle getting disrespected on say, the Internet, or even a grocery store parking lot? What about sewing up your wounds with guitar wire after a "cage" fight in prison?

This is what GB needs to know.

yes, there will be a fwd by our very own ESF.

I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.

:D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
becoming an 'ultimate human machine' is my job. what do the 'a.t.' and '4' stand for?

you'll find out when i release the book. :D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: njflex on June 09, 2014, 08:08:10 PM
yes, there will be a fwd by our very own ESF.

I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.

:D
right up there with girls and sons....speech.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Lobstah on June 09, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
You won't read it because you have dried sperm in your eye, buttstuffer.
kudos to Foozle for THIS awesome nugget of knowledge.  it compliments no one's advice quite well.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: booty on June 09, 2014, 08:31:07 PM
yes, there will be a fwd by our very own ESF.

I don't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.

ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.

:D
HA HA  ;D Awesome
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 09, 2014, 08:32:40 PM
Without Galeniko you are nothing, like Sigfried without Roy.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rambone on June 09, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Without Galeniko you are nothing, like Sigfried without Roy.

That was a rough time in my life as well as many getbiggers I'm sure.....



(http://joeartistwriter.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/roytraction.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: TEMPER on June 09, 2014, 08:44:33 PM
Where's the part about having to live on 800 calories to get in shape?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 09, 2014, 08:53:00 PM
That was a rough time in my life as well as many getbiggers I'm sure.....



(http://joeartistwriter.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/roytraction.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: D.O.U.P on June 09, 2014, 08:54:41 PM

i have had people query thru pm about this new system i said i was coming out with, to pair with with galieniko/ no one method of dieting.

so, heres a teaser. this book will be free to anyone who pms me for it that wants to better their bodies, their training, their recovery and discard preconcieved notions of what they had thought possible.

im not going to argue it, or debate it. take what i write and apply it. then come talk to me.

cheers.




pg 1.

AT4


The Creation of the Ultimate Human Machine


by Rob Macdonald/ 'no one'

pg 2

What is AT4?

AT4 is an acronym for a system of training designed to take you from your present state of functioning and create in yourself the ability to be better. to be a better more resilient more highly functioning machine.

doesnt that sound appealing? of course it does. who wouldnt want to create more tissue, repair faster, become more efficient or increase ones ability to handle work loads? thats why we do this. well then, why arent we all the machines that we strive to be. the answer is simple. we dont train enough. we dont push enough. we dont break down barriers in our thinking, in our belief systems, in our own bodies ability to 'do work'.

if your reading this, chances are you have read the 'galineko/ no one method'- a system of eating designed to drop fat off you more quickly than any method of fat loss today, and have you maintain that weight loss into perpetuity using the concepts we outlined in the book. when i co wrote that book i came across so much opposition that it was almost bordering on hatred simply because that book attacked the 'norms' in dieting. in that book we advanced that you could gain tissue in a deficit. you could have unlimited energy in a severe deficit. that you could feel great in a severe deficit, all the while losing fat more quickly than any other diet out there. i spent more time defensing my position from people who had never tried it, than i did answering questions from people who wanted to try it.

so, dear reader, if you do decide to turn this page, and trust me one more time, be warned your old ways of thinking are going to be screaming 'its IMPOSSIBLE!' . and im ok with that. cause quite frankly, what i propose SOUNDS impossible. but before you get out the rope, and get ready to string me up for preaching my heresy, apply what i am telling you, and reap the benefits and create in yourself your own human machine.

pg 3.

Of Doug White, Montgomery Paisley, and Las Vegas Boulevard.

how did i come up with AT4? it was quite by accident i suppose. i think subconsciously i had been creating it for years in my head, based on two distinct memories from my past, but i think i finally consciously allowed myself to believe it was possible as i was walking down Las Vegas Boulevard this summer during the saturday morning of memorial day weekend.

i had just left the gym a shambles, and was walking back to the hotel at 9am. i felt great. my training was on point. i had become very, very efficient in the gym. i had been training with no rest between sets for over 2 years now, and now i can handle training loads without resting between sets for the entirety of my session. a small thing, but having trained my body to accomplish this kind of resiliency i take pride in it. i might not be the strongest guy in the gym, but i am the handsomest, and i doubt many could hang with the tempo of my workout.

as i walked i thought to myself, 'what am i going to train tomorrow?'. you see, i train my whole body every 48 hours, and i had just smashed my back, chest, arms and shoulders all in the same session. since i use cycling alone for my leg training that meant i wouldnt be able to train my upper body again tomorrow, because i had just smashed it today, right? of course, thats what we are programmed to think. and its this stop gap in our thinking that has been preventing us all from achieving our best. but i digress.

as i pondered this conundrum of just what the hell i was going to train tomorrow now, doug white came to mind. it was odd, having just left the gym, thinking about my workout, to have a friend from my childhood just magically pop himself into my train of thought. but like i said, the subconscious works in strange ways.

doug was a guy i had gone to highschool with. he lived on a farm, and was as handy as pockets on a shirt. he wasnt going to be a doctor or a lawyer. he was going to work with his hands and found employment as a roofer out of school, on his way to becoming a carpenter. the thing i remember most about doug when i think of him was the size of his forearms. he was such a little guy- might have been 5'8 and 160 but his forearms from roofing and swinging a hammer all day were massive. odd, right? the guy never trained with weights. never counted grams of protein. never trained for hypertrophy, but he had the biggest forearms i had ever seen. from using them all day. every single day.

then i thought of monte paisley. if you google monte paisley you'll see that he was a former JTF special ops kinda guy who for some reason got his wires crossed, and got himself into some trouble with the CDN military. it was in the media, he had deserted and the whole country was looking for him. he was a pretty specially trained guy. and he was in my mind the ultimate human machine. and example of what the body could do- but not me, right? no, i could never be monte, cause i didnt have the 'genetics'.

you see, monte, was to me, as a 22 year old skinny kid who had just started training, the ultimate dude. the guy looked like a california beach boy. but a jacked to fuck california beach boy. like probably the best physique i have seen to this day in real life. dense quality tissue. well proportioned. the guy just looked godly.

and he was a cardio machine. 'what did you get up to this weekend?' i said to him one monday when i saw him at the gym on the stationary bike where pools of sweat had gathered underneath the pedals he effortlessly pushed for hours on end. hes like 'well i decided to go buy a jeep. so i got on my bike and rode into pembroke to see what they had. wasnt impressed so i rode out to eganville to look but theres no jeep dealer there, so i went to renfrew, found one i like, bought it, and it wasnt going to be plated till today, so i rode home thru beachburg, and stopped for chinese food at that little restaurant, before i headed back to pet(awawa)'.

ever had a moment in your life when you catch yourself with your jaw open. this was one of those moments. monte had just told me he cycled 190 km to 'buy a jeep' and here he was on the stationary bike the next day. the guy was a fucking machine.

and so it was doug white and monte paisley came into my head as i walked down LVBD after my gym session wonder wtf am i going to train tomorrow.

and monte, if for some strange reason your reading this, get at me. id love to shake your hand and buy you a beer. and thank you for making me realise your only limit is the limit you put on yourself.


Interesting. Like your open mind and low tolerance to follow pre conceived bullshit.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 09, 2014, 09:47:17 PM
Looks great! Your writing style is unique, fun to read.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 10:35:22 PM
Without Galeniko you are nothing, like Sigfried without Roy.

am i the fat one or the short one?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
Where's the part about having to live on 800 calories to get in shape?

thats book one. clearly you havent applied the concepts in it.

for those who have, i'll get to that in this book. theres a chapter being written by someone who knows a great deal more than i do on the topic of utilisble cals in a deficit. in as much as i agree with TA that a cal is a cal, i feel some cals provide the body better sources of fuel or for regeneration and repair which is of utmost importance in the deficit- if your only eating x amount of cals, i would think it would behoove you to get the most out of the cals your ingesting, thus this chapter on performance nutrition.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 09, 2014, 10:45:37 PM
Interesting. Like your open mind and low tolerance to follow pre conceived bullshit.

Looks great! Your writing style is unique, fun to read.

thank you gentlemen.

same as before. no studies. no science. no bullshit. just real world examples that defy what 'science' and 'studies' has taught us, and real world results.

thanks chiro you'll find this will read nicely. it'll be a good read.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 09, 2014, 11:22:59 PM
am i the fat one or the short one?

lol
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Dominic on June 10, 2014, 07:19:55 AM
Sign me up!

I got freaking shredded following the gal/no one method.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 10, 2014, 07:21:24 AM
thanks dude. and thats what its all about- helping people be their best..

it'll be given to anyone who pms for it.

it'll format it as a pdf. im still putting it together but have the nuts and bolts. just need to format it all and a few odds and ends here and there.

Send me a copy, I will rip it to bits here and agree with it in private.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 07:30:44 AM
Send me a copy, I will rip it to bits here and agree with it in private.


haha done! I'd expect nothing less my friend! :D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Dominic on June 10, 2014, 07:32:46 AM
Btw what happen to gal?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Skorp1o on June 10, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
Btw what happen to gal?

Gal doesn't exist....he is an illusion.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 08:57:17 AM
Gal doesn't exist....he is an illusion.

he has transcended this plane of existence- not GB, but our known universe.

when hes not there, hes in dubai, india banging large breasted whores.

all joking aside, i hope one day he returns to continue his reign as one of the online bbing communities most prolific posters.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: smoothasf on June 10, 2014, 09:11:55 AM
Nice read! I read it all and I hate most things I read.  I can Dee how this would work to build a physique, it's not good for getting stronger but that's not what's being achieved here.  Will there be a part about legs, as a cyclist I'll be interested to hear that part.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2014, 09:18:50 AM
This book is only getbig worthy if you have random photos of tranny's doing bar lifts
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Skorp1o on June 10, 2014, 09:21:02 AM
Nice read! I read it all and I hate most things I read.  I can Dee how this would work to build a physique, it's not good for getting stronger but that's not what's being achieved here.  Will there be a part about legs, as a cyclist I'll be interested to hear that part.

I do triathlons, bodybuilding offers very little towards endurance sports...fast twitch muscles VS slow twitch, then conditioning of the said muscles to sustain hours on end of punishment is not something bodybuilders are very good at.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 09:27:29 AM
holy shit guys.

i have to say thank you. the pms you send me make my day. to know that i have helped you all in the ways you say is honouring and humbling. the response for this is crazy. we really nailed it w the galeniko/ no one method and it is awesome to hear it from you too. its one thing to know YOU nailed it, but when you have other people saying- dude- you got me here, thats it- thats the real deal.

a lot of you have been following my posts on training that i have written, and applying what i do to your own training, and thus the demand im seeing for this. i honestly didnt expect this. take what i used to say about training, and how your own performance has increased, now add another level to that.

if you like increased frequency your going to love this.

its not just a book that will go into how to create more hypertrophy, thicker denser fiber, a muscle that is highly functional, yet impressive cosmetically, it will encompass the ideal of just becoming a more efficient, machine thru training. because thats always been everyones danger zone- fuck you cant train like that- you'll lose tissue! you'll get weaker! its impossible! it wont work! YOU'LL OVER TRAIN! hahaha holy fuck the lies and bullshit we've been fed based on the 'studies and the science of training' makes me sick. that same science is keeping you from becoming your own ultimate machine.

its the Grail guys. i shit you not. im 43 2 weeks ago. in the best shape of my life. i can my heart rate at 120-150bpm for 3 consecutive hrs. i can train w w loads that tax the muscle to failure each set, yet recover in seconds before my next set to the point now here rep ranges are static thru my entire workout, not decreasing as one might expect. thats amazing resiliency. and im not done. the sky is truly the limit.

this will tell you how to get YOU there, and go beyond. the body is a function of the stresses we create for it. the reason why there are so few ultimate machines is not based in the genetic gene pool, but based in the fact we are lazy, misguided, and dont train enough to create this environment.

if you have ever dreamed of being 'better' then this book will help you achieve that.

and i look forward to helping you get there.

cheers.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 09:29:10 AM
I do triathlons, bodybuilding offers very little towards endurance sports...fast twitch muscles VS slow twitch, then conditioning of the said muscles to sustain hours on end of punishment is not something bodybuilders are very good at.

this is where that cross over starts my friend.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rascal full on June 10, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
I like this sort of stuff find it very intriguing, thanks for taking the time to put it together. Particularly interested in this outdated notion of over training.

I am assuming that this book applies only if you are taking sports technology drugs as flex wheeler would say?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
I like this sort of stuff find it very intriguing, thanks for taking the time to put it together. Particularly interested in this outdated notion of over training.

I am assuming that this book applies only if you are taking sports technology drugs as flex wheller would say?

no it'll apply to nattys as well..

remember our friend doug white? never lifted a weight in his life. never trained for hypertrophy. never counted a gram of protein. looked forward to beers after work. had the most impressive muscle group on anyone i have ever seen. he actually had a muscle i had never seen before on the top of his forearm. he would make a fist, like he was holding a hammer, and this goddamn thing would pop up out of nowhere. im like what the fuck is that? hes like 'its a muscle from hammering all day'.

he wasnt on flex wheelers stacks. he was on coors light, chicken wings and repetitive stress.

he did it without even wanting to. so, why cant you? cause the science say you cant? cuase you'll over train? FUCKING BULLSHIT. the body becomes a function of the stress you place on it. its called ADAPTATION- now you know that the A in AT4 stands for. :)

there is something better. you can be better- as efficient and resilient as you train your body to be. what do you want to be? then be it.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rascal full on June 10, 2014, 09:51:57 AM
no it'll apply to nattys as well..

remember our friend doug white? never lifted a weight in his life. never trained for hypertrophy. never counted a gram of protein. looked forward to beers after work. had the most impressive muscle group on anyone i have ever seen. he actually had a muscle i had never seen before on the top of his forearm. he would make a fist, like he was holding a hammer, and this goddamn thing would pop up out of nowhere. im like what the fuck is that? hes like 'its a muscle from hammering all day'.

he wasnt on flex wheelers stacks. he was on coors light, chicken wings and repetitive stress.

he did it without even wanting to. so, why cant you? cause the science say you cant? cuase you'll over train? FUCKING BULLSHIT. the body becomes a function of the stress you place on it. its called ADAPTATION- now you know that the A in AT4 stands for. :)

there is something better. you can be better- as efficient and resilient as you train your body to be. what do you want to be? then be it.

Very inspiring actually mate. It seems the more you get into bodybuilding the more you realise the supposed 'rules' are actually trip wires for your success. I like your thinking, outside the box!
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 09:58:53 AM
Very inspiring actually mate. It seems the more you get into bodybuilding the more you realise the supposed 'rules' are actually trip wires for your success. I like your thinking, outside the box!

when it comes to 'what we know' abt training this is as outside the box as it gets.

but when you look at the above example you can say 'fuck ya. that makes perfect sense'.

something just isn't adding up here, is it?

:)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2014, 10:22:11 AM
holy shit guys.

i have to say thank you. the pms you send me make my day. to know that i have helped you all in the ways you say is honouring and humbling. the response for this is crazy. we really nailed it w the galeniko/ no one method and it is awesome to hear it from you too. its one thing to know YOU nailed it, but when you have other people saying- dude- you got me here, thats it- thats the real deal.

a lot of you have been following my posts on training that i have written, and applying what i do to your own training, and thus the demand im seeing for this. i honestly didnt expect this. take what i used to say about training, and how your own performance has increased, now add another level to that.

if you like increased frequency your going to love this.

its not just a book that will go into how to create more hypertrophy, thicker denser fiber, a muscle that is highly functional, yet impressive cosmetically, it will encompass the ideal of just becoming a more efficient, machine thru training. because thats always been everyones danger zone- fuck you cant train like that- you'll lose tissue! you'll get weaker! its impossible! it wont work! YOU'LL OVER TRAIN! hahaha holy fuck the lies and bullshit we've been fed based on the 'studies and the science of training' makes me sick. that same science is keeping you from becoming your own ultimate machine.

its the Grail guys. i shit you not. im 43 2 weeks ago. in the best shape of my life. i can my heart rate at 120-150bpm for 3 consecutive hrs. i can train w w loads that tax the muscle to failure each set, yet recover in seconds before my next set to the point now here rep ranges are static thru my entire workout, not decreasing as one might expect. thats amazing resiliency. and im not done. the sky is truly the limit.

this will tell you how to get YOU there, and go beyond. the body is a function of the stresses we create for it. the reason why there are so few ultimate machines is not based in the genetic gene pool, but based in the fact we are lazy, misguided, and dont train enough to create this environment.

if you have ever dreamed of being 'better' then this book will help you achieve that.

and i look forward to helping you get there.

cheers.
I LIKE THIS,,,putting wheels in motion each and every workout and getting the most out of each workout without saying to yourself'did I do enough or 1 more set will do it,and how about the people wk after wk with notepad and pen after every set marking reps achieved or reps and yr later doing same thing scratching head hhmmm what improved  :P..
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: CalvinH on June 10, 2014, 11:34:27 AM
when it comes to 'what we know' abt training this is as outside the box as it gets.

but when you look at the above example you can say 'fuck ya. that makes perfect sense'.

something just isn't adding up here, is it?

:)

How about for me....when I can lift again {labrum and bicep tear, should be the end August} my doc {a specialist in shoulders} said I could never again lift as heavy as I was ???
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wes on June 10, 2014, 11:40:29 AM
Good stuff!

wes approved! ;)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: mazrim on June 10, 2014, 11:51:37 AM
How are your legs in comparison to when you lifted weights with them?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 10, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
 :D

I get it now!

no one is trying to sell his "method" and "diet" so he felt threatened by what I do ..classic stuff

if he were not so insecure he could push his "system" without feeling threatened by anyone who trains people or does diets etc

what an insecure dork  ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rami on June 10, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
My training system: I train by lifting weights in various ways till I feel it's adequate for the time being. Then I do it again when I see fit and feel like it.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2014, 01:22:10 PM
:D

I get it now!

no one is trying to sell his "method" and "diet" so he felt threatened by what I do ..classic stuff

if he were not so insecure he could push his "system" without feeling threatened by anyone who trains people or does diets etc

what an insecure dork  ;D

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Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
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Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2014, 01:23:15 PM
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Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 10, 2014, 01:23:57 PM
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Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: King Shizzo on June 10, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
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Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 10, 2014, 01:46:08 PM
Cleanest natural reeking of desperation in this thread.

He's just done the equivalent of shitting in his pants just so people will mock him because its better than being ignored.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:31:26 PM
How about for me....when I can lift again {labrum and bicep tear, should be the end August} my doc {a specialist in shoulders} said I could never again lift as heavy as I was ???

what does a hammer weigh?

the growth environment were going to create in you using adaptation isn't reliant so much on 'poundage and weight' but more on frequency and very limited rest periods thereby forcing the body to respond to this stimulus- and that's where all the good stuff happens.

given workload and very little rest the body is forced to adapt to keep up. it's during this adaptation it creates the perfect environment of becoming more resilient and efficient to meet the demands your placing on it.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:32:44 PM
I LIKE THIS,,,putting wheels in motion each and every workout and getting the most out of each workout without saying to yourself'did I do enough or 1 more set will do it,and how about the people wk after wk with notepad and pen after every set marking reps achieved or reps and yr later doing same thing scratching head hhmmm what improved  :P..


exactly. doing the same things over time yield the same results.

it's time for something new and better.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
Good stuff!

wes approved! ;)

huge endorsement- Ty sir!
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:39:11 PM
How are your legs in comparison to when you lifted weights with them?

cosmetically they have more shape. more density. more quality looking fibre. def not the typical soft waterbags your used to seeing quads being.

functionally they are amazing. I can do 1:30hr of singletrack on my bike and never feel them burn.

strength wise I couldn't tell you. I'm not training for strength. with all my body parts I'm training for efficiency, cosmetic appeal and functionality. you can look great and hold a ton of fibre and be able to tax and better your cardiovascular system contrary to popular belief- 'your going to shrink if you train too much or do too much cardio!' hahaha what a crock of shit.





Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
This sounds great. I'm anxious to hear more although training more might not be an option for those of us work 50-60 hour weeks.

you won't need any extra gym time over and above what your doing now if your a typical gym rat who trains an hour a day.

the cardio end of it- which is necessary to create the machine I set out to build- is an investment in time for sure. I figure I'm at 7hrs of saddle time a week.

but the beauty of this is that if you don't want the cardio you don't have to do it. you can create a more efficient muscle without it. my focus is over all performance. but you can tailor this to your own needs. the training component is the strength of the system.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 10, 2014, 02:45:04 PM
cosmetically they have more shape. more density. more quality looking fibre. def not the typical soft waterbags your used to seeing quads being.

functionally they are amazing. I can do 1:30hr of singletrack on my bike and never feel them burn.

strength wise I couldn't tell you. I'm not training for strength. with all my body parts I'm training for efficiency, cosmetic appeal and functionality. you can look great and hold a ton of fibre and be able to tax and better your cardiovascular system contrary to popular belief- 'your going to shrink if you train too much or do too much cardio!' hahaha what a crock of shit.






Shit, I do 5 mins on a stationary bike at moderate to high level constant tension and they blow up like balloons.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:50:37 PM
:D

I get it now!

no one is trying to sell his "method" and "diet" so he felt threatened by what I do ..classic stuff

if he were not so insecure he could push his "system" without feeling threatened by anyone who trains people or does diets etc

what an insecure dork  ;D

sell? this is free. I'm giving my time and energy and knowledge so that someone somewhere can better themselves. and to me that's awesome.

no bro. you don't threaten me. the reason I run you into the ground is simply because I see a guy busting his ass who could look a million times better than he does except for the unfortunate fact that his 'trainer' - you - has no fucking clue what he's doing. lol

your buddy Borat looks good in spite of what your doing. not because of it. don't flatter yourself. I could turn that kid into a god while your inadequacies have done nothing more than to have developed him into someone who has the density of a pre pubescent teenager.

congrats on that.

next.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 10, 2014, 02:54:44 PM
Shit, I do 5 mins on a stationary bike at moderate to high level constant tension and they blow up like balloons.

took me a while to get them to this point. like anything I have trained them for what I demand from them. if you couldn't train the muscle to not act this way there'd be no tours de France. everyone would be like 'fuck I can pedal any longer my legs are too pumped!'
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: smoothasf on June 10, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
Cadence simple Simon cadence.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
I would love to give your training system a try. 

I would follow it to the T and document it if you want No One.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: O.Z. on June 10, 2014, 10:00:55 PM

i have had people query thru pm about this new system i said i was coming out with, to pair with with galieniko/ no one method of dieting.

so, heres a teaser. this book will be free to anyone who pms me for it that wants to better their bodies, their training, their recovery and discard preconcieved notions of what they had thought possible.

im not going to argue it, or debate it. take what i write and apply it. then come talk to me.

cheers.




pg 1.

AT4


The Creation of the Ultimate Human Machine


by Rob Macdonald/ 'no one'

pg 2

What is AT4?

AT4 is an acronym for a system of training designed to take you from your present state of functioning and create in yourself the ability to be better. to be a better more resilient more highly functioning machine.

doesnt that sound appealing? of course it does. who wouldnt want to create more tissue, repair faster, become more efficient or increase ones ability to handle work loads? thats why we do this. well then, why arent we all the machines that we strive to be. the answer is simple. we dont train enough. we dont push enough. we dont break down barriers in our thinking, in our belief systems, in our own bodies ability to 'do work'.

if your reading this, chances are you have read the 'galineko/ no one method'- a system of eating designed to drop fat off you more quickly than any method of fat loss today, and have you maintain that weight loss into perpetuity using the concepts we outlined in the book. when i co wrote that book i came across so much opposition that it was almost bordering on hatred simply because that book attacked the 'norms' in dieting. in that book we advanced that you could gain tissue in a deficit. you could have unlimited energy in a severe deficit. that you could feel great in a severe deficit, all the while losing fat more quickly than any other diet out there. i spent more time defensing my position from people who had never tried it, than i did answering questions from people who wanted to try it.

so, dear reader, if you do decide to turn this page, and trust me one more time, be warned your old ways of thinking are going to be screaming 'its IMPOSSIBLE!' . and im ok with that. cause quite frankly, what i propose SOUNDS impossible. but before you get out the rope, and get ready to string me up for preaching my heresy, apply what i am telling you, and reap the benefits and create in yourself your own human machine.

pg 3.

Of Doug White, Montgomery Paisley, and Las Vegas Boulevard.

how did i come up with AT4? it was quite by accident i suppose. i think subconsciously i had been creating it for years in my head, based on two distinct memories from my past, but i think i finally consciously allowed myself to believe it was possible as i was walking down Las Vegas Boulevard this summer during the saturday morning of memorial day weekend.

i had just left the gym a shambles, and was walking back to the hotel at 9am. i felt great. my training was on point. i had become very, very efficient in the gym. i had been training with no rest between sets for over 2 years now, and now i can handle training loads without resting between sets for the entirety of my session. a small thing, but having trained my body to accomplish this kind of resiliency i take pride in it. i might not be the strongest guy in the gym, but i am the handsomest, and i doubt many could hang with the tempo of my workout.

as i walked i thought to myself, 'what am i going to train tomorrow?'. you see, i train my whole body every 48 hours, and i had just smashed my back, chest, arms and shoulders all in the same session. since i use cycling alone for my leg training that meant i wouldnt be able to train my upper body again tomorrow, because i had just smashed it today, right? of course, thats what we are programmed to think. and its this stop gap in our thinking that has been preventing us all from achieving our best. but i digress.

as i pondered this conundrum of just what the hell i was going to train tomorrow now, doug white came to mind. it was odd, having just left the gym, thinking about my workout, to have a friend from my childhood just magically pop himself into my train of thought. but like i said, the subconscious works in strange ways.

doug was a guy i had gone to highschool with. he lived on a farm, and was as handy as pockets on a shirt. he wasnt going to be a doctor or a lawyer. he was going to work with his hands and found employment as a roofer out of school, on his way to becoming a carpenter. the thing i remember most about doug when i think of him was the size of his forearms. he was such a little guy- might have been 5'8 and 160 but his forearms from roofing and swinging a hammer all day were massive. odd, right? the guy never trained with weights. never counted grams of protein. never trained for hypertrophy, but he had the biggest forearms i had ever seen. from using them all day. every single day.

then i thought of monte paisley. if you google monte paisley you'll see that he was a former JTF special ops kinda guy who for some reason got his wires crossed, and got himself into some trouble with the CDN military. it was in the media, he had deserted and the whole country was looking for him. he was a pretty specially trained guy. and he was in my mind the ultimate human machine. and example of what the body could do- but not me, right? no, i could never be monte, cause i didnt have the 'genetics'.

you see, monte, was to me, as a 22 year old skinny kid who had just started training, the ultimate dude. the guy looked like a california beach boy. but a jacked to fuck california beach boy. like probably the best physique i have seen to this day in real life. dense quality tissue. well proportioned. the guy just looked godly.

and he was a cardio machine. 'what did you get up to this weekend?' i said to him one monday when i saw him at the gym on the stationary bike where pools of sweat had gathered underneath the pedals he effortlessly pushed for hours on end. hes like 'well i decided to go buy a jeep. so i got on my bike and rode into pembroke to see what they had. wasnt impressed so i rode out to eganville to look but theres no jeep dealer there, so i went to renfrew, found one i like, bought it, and it wasnt going to be plated till today, so i rode home thru beachburg, and stopped for chinese food at that little restaurant, before i headed back to pet(awawa)'.

ever had a moment in your life when you catch yourself with your jaw open. this was one of those moments. monte had just told me he cycled 190 km to 'buy a jeep' and here he was on the stationary bike the next day. the guy was a fucking machine.

and so it was doug white and monte paisley came into my head as i walked down LVBD after my gym session wonder wtf am i going to train tomorrow.

and monte, if for some strange reason your reading this, get at me. id love to shake your hand and buy you a beer. and thank you for making me realise your only limit is the limit you put on yourself.



very good read and good to see people helping and sharing. You and Gal gave me a kick in the butt to change my physique almost a year ago and to be in the best shape of my life at age of 47.
Would love to read the whole thing once completed.

cheers buddy
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wolfrittner on June 11, 2014, 02:13:58 AM
:D

I get it now!

no one is trying to sell his "method" and "diet" so he felt threatened by what I do ..classic stuff

if he were not so insecure he could push his "system" without feeling threatened by anyone who trains people or does diets etc

what an insecure dork  ;D
Close, Except its the other way around.
Pict.1 is me arriving at work
Pict.2 Is my prepared food for today (incl.2small Bottles of water)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 11, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Here...instead of 24 paragraphs  ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wes on June 11, 2014, 03:25:35 AM
Rob,I`ll be asking you some questions about this in a week or so via PM.....been in a training rut lately and am taking a bit of time off....an extreme rarity for me.  :(

Anyway,I`m used to training with very little rest as I`ve done this for years................I`m a big believer in creating intensity via short rest periods and using intensity techniques such as Drop-Sets,Super-Sets,Giant-Sets,partial rep,followed by a full rep and repeated,etc. etc.,......a truly fucking brutal way to train and no stupidly huge poundage is required.

The frequency thing would be the big issue for me as far as your system goes,but I`m always up for new ideas and I have never stopped experimenting after all these years.

I used to train heavy but what with trying to beat the clock,lighter weight becomes very heavy feeling very quickly!  ;D

Vince Gironda used to say that "Intensity Of Effort" (his words,not mine),was created by trying to get the most possible amount of work done in the shortest amount of time.........I live by this as my training mantra.

Thanks for sharing buddy!  ;)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: kevinf on June 11, 2014, 03:30:46 AM
Read no one's dieting book, it was awesome shit!
Im sure this will be just as good. Cant wait!  8)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wes on June 11, 2014, 03:48:01 AM
Shit, I do 5 mins on a stationary bike at moderate to high level constant tension and they blow up like balloons.
The main reason I never used the bike for cardio......besides that,what are you doing sitting on your ass during a workout ?  ;D

Treadmill > stationary bike  ;)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 04:25:46 AM
I would love to give your training system a try. 

I would follow it to the T and document it if you want No One.

awesome. Ty TA. your going to love this- it will change entirely the way you look at and approach training and the way you train.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 04:53:42 AM
Rob,I`ll be asking you some questions about this in a week or so via PM.....been in a training rut lately and am taking a bit of time off....an extreme rarity for me.  :(

Anyway,I`m used to training with very little rest as I`ve done this for years................I`m a big believer in creating intensity via short rest periods and using intensity techniques such as Drop-Sets,Super-Sets,Giant-Sets,partial rep,followed by a full rep and repeated,etc. etc.,......a truly fucking brutal way to train and no stupidly huge poundage is required.

The frequency thing would be the big issue for me as far as your system goes,but I`m always up for new ideas and I have never stopped experimenting after all these years.

I used to train heavy but what with trying to beat the clock,lighter weight becomes very heavy feeling very quickly!  ;D

Vince Gironda used to say that "Intensity Of Effort" (his words,not mine),was created by trying to get the most possible amount of work done in the shortest amount of time.........I live by this as my mantra.

Thanks for sharing buddy!  ;)


man what a timely post.

the two things I have notice most abt this routine- apart from kicking my ass- are the two intangible it has created that your training is missing.

the desire to train has returned. I get up every am and can not wait to look in the mirror to see what's happened. that's how fast the changes come. like every single am I'm denser and leaner. it's fucking retarded. and that is a huge motivator. cause don't get me wrong, this program isn't all unicorns and rainbows it's fucking TOUGH. mentally and physically. in order to create the environment for the growth your going to experience the body is going to have to adapt to the stresses your putting it under. and that's tough. but the rewards are far greater. it's almost like I'm on my first cycle in terms of the motivation from what I'm seeing factor. that makes it easier to go to the gym AGAIN. and train AGAIN. fucking brutal. I'm laying in bed thinking abt this workout I'm going to do this am and am less than amped for it. why? cause I'm fucking tired. and I'm fucking sore. but I'm going to the gym CAUSE THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENT I WANT TO CREATE.

why the fuck would you want to do that? cause that's when the body adapts. and when the magic happens. and trust me bro it is magical.

the second thing I've noticed is my intensity is thru the roof when I'm in the gym. I don't know where it's coming from. or how it's possible. like I walk in the gym. I'm dragging my ass. I sit down on the flat bench. I do one set. warm up. my body undergoes so kind of response to the feel of the weight AGAIN. it wants oddly enough MORE WEIGHT. so I put more on. and it feels great. and the body responds with controlled power. you know that controlled powerful feeling when your lowering a weight and it feels heavy as hell but you know your going to push right thru it anyway? that's the feeling. the body is adapting to the workloads I'm putting it under but creating the intensity for me to go set to set to set and fucking pound it. like I have NO IDEA how this is possible. this isn't 'energy based'. fuck I have no energy. lol this I'd pure response based adaptation.

the best example I can liken it to is the energy that we told everyone they'd get in an extreme cal deficit. EVERYONE who did the system reported the same thing. it's not possible bad it's unexplainable but it happens. same thing w the intensity here. I can't explain it. it shouldnt be possible. but it is happening.

as to the responses. that's not just me. I have someone trialling this system as well. she's as opposite the end of the genetic spectrum as I am. female, natural, on a very strict calorie rotation AND she's 6 months post partum. the same responses to training are happening to her. this isn't anabolics based. this isn't 'working jjust for me'. it's the body adapting in it's own amazing way to the environment we create and the stresses we put it under.

I'm not selling you guys a bag of magic beans here. this routine does everything I say it does. it really is quite incredible.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 05:02:52 AM
I'm getting your pm's guys and love reading them all. if you have asked me a question and I haven't answered it will be covered in the book. I feel badly I haven't responded to you all but holy fuck. lol just know I'm getting them and I appreciate the kind words and when I'm done you'll all get a copy.

I had no idea how many people read this board that never post here. I thought GB was this little community of people who post. GB is a TV show that that small community posts in that watched by thousands more who don't. lol

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 05:11:32 AM
Here...instead of 24 paragraphs  ;D

lol the poor fucker. busting his ass. for what. to look clean.

here it is sev. it's like this.

give me borat for 4 weeks. I want to run his cycle and his training and now i want to control his diet too. your fucking that up too btw. see how's he's getting softer looking? how hes lacking the tightness he had 4 weeks ago? that's your fault. I'm not going to tel you how to fix it. but he should be leaner and tighter than he was from the pics you posted 4 weeks ago. now he's softer and his skin doesn't fit. what the fuck is wrong w you?


anyway give me him for 4 weeks. if I don't REMARKABLY change his condition I'll never post on GB again.

if I can, you don't have to do anything. you lose nothing by taking this bet other than your pride.

I imagine it will be tough for you to admit you don't have a fucking clue what your doing, but I'm sure if you put the needs of borat first you'll be able to get over it.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 07:41:38 AM

actually sev if you want to know what borat 'should' look like take a look at one of Noel fullers guys. they'd wipe the floor w poor borat here in both conditioning and quality of tissue.

he takes a lot of heat on here for spamming but he knows how to get guys in shape. quality dense fibre.

unlike your 'proteges' they actually look like they train.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: CalvinH on June 11, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
what does a hammer weigh?

the growth environment were going to create in you using adaptation isn't reliant so much on 'poundage and weight' but more on frequency and very limited rest periods thereby forcing the body to respond to this stimulus- and that's where all the good stuff happens.

given workload and very little rest the body is forced to adapt to keep up. it's during this adaptation it creates the perfect environment of becoming more resilient and efficient to meet the demands your placing on it.


Cool, thanks I'll get back to you in a month and a half or so when I can get back in the gym :)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: mazrim on June 11, 2014, 09:21:50 AM
I will def say that hitting muscles frequently is by far my favorite way to train. Went from once a week when began training, to twice, and now three times hitting each muscle a week. Very enjoyable with the shorter rest periods (if any) as well.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 11, 2014, 09:23:52 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=567721;image)
He looks worse than he did two weeks ago.

Great work Sev, if hes bulking again that is.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 11, 2014, 09:48:28 AM
Send Borat to No One.  >:(
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2014, 09:53:17 AM
For the past 4 months I have been doing high volume training- 26-46 sets, 5-6 days a week with one minute rest between each set.  Looking at pictures I have taken, it seems to have really worked well since the same body weight looks different.  I also noticed that I overcame plateaus and I am able to increase weight from when I started.  I also noticed I can greatly increase my calories without any ill effect.  I am up around 3500 calories with no weight gain (fat) whatsoever.

I used to train VERY heavy, rest as much to recover for the next set.  Not much was happening for a long time.  


No One, will your training protocols be similar to the above?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 10:22:21 AM
For the past 4 months I have been doing high volume training- 26-46 sets, 5-6 days a week with one minute rest between each set.  Looking at pictures I have taken, it seems to have really worked well since the same body weight looks different.  I also noticed that I overcame plateaus and I am able to increase weight from when I started.  I also noticed I can greatly increase my calories without any ill effect.  I am up around 3500 calories with no weight gain (fat) whatsoever.

I used to train VERY heavy, rest as much to recover for the next set.  Not much was happening for a long time.  


No One, will your training protocols be similar to the above?


how often are you training each group?

we are similar yet different.

my program is 10 seconds rest between sets or however long it takes to go from station to station with purpose. all straight set work. less focus on poundage more on running the pump and feeling the body part you want to work. lower set volume than you. more frequency. whole body training.

the average trainer reading this is going to go holy fuck I can do that. if you train one body part a day resting the typical 1-1:30 between sets ya then jumping into this is going to fuck you up. you'll hurt yourself. this routine is no joke. but i show you how to get there from where you are. there's 3 stages. first we work on your efficiency- the ability of your muscle to perform work in a very compressed amount of time. once we get you efficient then we increase your frequency- the number of sessions your training per week. once you have adapted to both of those levels then your ready for the meat of the program.

the beauty is you are going to notice results from the time you start it till the time you get into the last level. because that whole time your forcing your body to adapt to the stresses your placing it under. and that's quite simply what this is all abt. forcing your body to become a function of your work your giving it.

like your finding TA increasing the demands you place on your body increases it's efficiency, function and cosmetic appeal.

you can carry gobs of tissue and be a highly functioning machine. you don't have to sacrifice one for the other like we have been led to believe.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: threetrees on June 11, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
can one look forward to a bodybuilding book without sounding like a homo?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: a_pupil on June 11, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
when you say no rest between sets, do you mean you do a single bodypart circuit e.g. one exercise to the other or do you rest 10 secs and do another set of the same exercise?

edit:

how do ou deal with joints pains from doing pushing exercises every day/other day
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2014, 11:42:41 AM

how often are you training each group?

we are similar yet different.

my program is 10 seconds rest between sets or however long it takes to go from station to station with purpose. all straight set work. less focus on poundage more on running the pump and feeling the body part you want to work. lower set volume than you. more frequency. whole body training.

the average trainer reading this is going to go holy fuck I can do that. if you train one body part a day resting the typical 1-1:30 between sets ya then jumping into this is going to fuck you up. you'll hurt yourself. this routine is no joke. but i show you how to get there from where you are. there's 3 stages. first we work on your efficiency- the ability of your muscle to perform work in a very compressed amount of time. once we get you efficient then we increase your frequency- the number of sessions your training per week. once you have adapted to both of those levels then your ready for the meat of the program.

the beauty is you are going to notice results from the time you start it till the time you get into the last level. because that whole time your forcing your body to adapt to the stresses your placing it under. and that's quite simply what this is all abt. forcing your body to become a function of your work your giving it.

like your finding TA increasing the demands you place on your body increases it's efficiency, function and cosmetic appeal.

you can carry gobs of tissue and be a highly functioning machine. you don't have to sacrifice one for the other like we have been led to believe.
How long would a typical workout last in your estimate?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
can one look forward to a bodybuilding book without sounding like a homo?

lol yes. no homo.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
when you say no rest between sets, do you mean you do a single bodypart circuit e.g. one exercise to the other or do you rest 10 secs and do another set of the same exercise?

edit:

how do ou deal with joints pains from doing pushing exercises every day/other day

if I'm doing bench for example I'll do 8 reps. or whatever. maybe 3-4 doesn't matter. then I'll rack it. sit up. catch my breath. another set. repeat. then I'll go to do the pec dec say. same scenario. there's no rest. no talk. no bullshit. the whole workout is like that. there's no talking to someone abt how weak lebron is or how much your gf is being a bitch. save that shit for home. your here to create an environment that forces adaptation.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 11, 2014, 01:04:55 PM
if I'm doing bench for example I'll do 8 reps. or whatever. maybe 3-4 doesn't matter. then I'll rack it. sit up. catch my breath. another set. repeat. then I'll go to do the pec dec say. same scenario. there's no rest. no talk. no bullshit. the whole workout is like that. there's no talking to someone abt how weak lebron is or how much your gf is being a bitch. save that shit for home. your here to create an environment that forces adaptation.
Pretty much my approach
As soon as I find myself looking around the gym daydreaming, Im done.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
How long would a typical workout last in your estimate?

1hr. by the end of it just from the weights alone.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: monstermunch on June 11, 2014, 01:12:37 PM
So its essentially a giant set sponsored by Animalpak?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rascal full on June 11, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
Quick question please No One. The reasons always stated opposing over training are that you would continually be tearing down the same muscle fibres over and over and not giving them enough time to rest and grow. This made sense to me when I read it and then experienced doms, etc. How do you view this and what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wes on June 11, 2014, 02:15:54 PM
Just reading this has my enthusiasm to train coming back a bit.

Been in a huge rut lately and have no desire to train whatsoever.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Nick Danger on June 11, 2014, 02:19:33 PM
I've often wondered about this...world class cyclists ride every day, they all seem to have very well developed legs...
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Quick question please No One. The reasons always stated opposing over training are that you would continually be tearing down the same muscle fibres over and over and not giving them enough time to rest and grow. This made sense to me when I read it and then experienced doms, etc. How do you view this and what are your thoughts?

I address this in the book. lets just say the basis for this system is the exact opposite of conventional wisdom.

my man chiro messaged me and he sees exactly where I'm going w this ago how a an important function of any organism in any environment called adaptation creates an environment of resiliency and efficiency. this system uses that very function to create a more highly functioning machine.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 04:52:17 PM
I've often wondered about this...world class cyclists ride every day, they all seem to have very well developed legs...


awesome catch. an example I use in the book. repetitive stress over frequent periods cause an adaptation in cyclists to handle the demands of the stresses of cycling > increased thigh mass. a more efficient muscle capable of performing prolonged taxing levels of activity.

cyclists thighs adapt to the stresses of the training they undergo to meet the demands of that activity.

but we can't condition our whole body like this cause the 'science' says we'll 'overtrain'.

know what the funny thing about common sense is? it's not all that common.

we've been fed science and bullshit for too long w/o questioning it. its time to get down to what works. use the bodies key biological function to create that response we want- adaptation cause that's where the growth and increases in performance lie.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 11, 2014, 05:09:54 PM

so doug white and cyclists can create world class tissue, and monte can do countless hours of cardiovascular activity can hold incredibly respectable amounts of lean tissue but you and I can't. right?

NO CAUSE YOU'LL OVER TRAIN! THE SCIENCE / STUDIES SAYS SO!

haha I got one for you- FUCK SCIENCE.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: cephissus on June 11, 2014, 09:59:12 PM
skimmed past the first page of the thread...  is this book done, and ready to read?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 12, 2014, 10:11:52 AM
actually sev if you want to know what borat 'should' look like take a look at one of Noel fullers guys. they'd wipe the floor w poor borat here in both conditioning and quality of tissue.

he takes a lot of heat on here for spamming but he knows how to get guys in shape. quality dense fibre.

unlike your 'proteges' they actually look like they train.
:D

what a meltdown machine
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Post by: Simple Simon on June 12, 2014, 10:18:45 AM
:D

what a meltdown machine

Epic comeback, no one wont recover.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 12, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Epic comeback, no one wont recover.

No One is finished.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 12, 2014, 11:37:53 AM
:D

what a meltdown machine

what's it like knowing your failing a guy who putting his trust in you and your too self absorbed to admit you have no clue what your doing?

stick to remote viewing thru goats and lizard people conspiracies bro cause this is real life not the fantasy land you dwell in and your failing. no surprise really.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: a_pupil on June 12, 2014, 11:42:56 AM
enough with the gypsy bashing.

do you count sets or just do an exercise for a set amount of time e.g. keep banging out reps with 10 secs rest for 10 minutes.

i think your idea is correct. the only drawback I see to high high frequency is joint pains.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: jodsy on June 12, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
is there a chapter dedicated to your deep tissue massages from soapy studs?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 12, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
so doug white and cyclists can create world class tissue, and monte can do countless hours of cardiovascular activity can hold incredibly respectable amounts of lean tissue but you and I can't. right?

NO CAUSE YOU'LL OVER TRAIN! THE SCIENCE / STUDIES SAYS SO!

haha I got one for you- FUCK SCIENCE.


I don`t think there is any Science that specifically says you will overtrain doing an hour long bodybuilding workout routine several times a week.

Overtraining is a thing, but not one any of us have to worry about.  Marathon runners are overtrained.  So overtraining is real, just not something that concerns any of us. 

(http://badandmuscled.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/marathon_sprinter-think-again.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 12, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
enough with the gypsy bashing.

do you count sets or just do an exercise for a set amount of time e.g. keep banging out reps with 10 secs rest for 10 minutes.

i think your idea is correct. the only drawback I see to high high frequency is joint pains.




cant promise anything.

to speak of the higher frequency/ joint pain aspect i finally hit that point today- after 23 days of training every muscle group, every day.

muscle soreness is great. we want that. we want an exhausted sore muscle to train again. and again. and again. thats where the tolerance to load and the increase in function manifests itself.

joint pain, tendon pain is another whole thing altogether. in the book i urge you to train thru being tired, not wanting to train, and muscle soreness. this is when the adaptations we seek take place. i urge you to back off when you start getting joint or tendon pain. by back off i dont mean you can sit on your ass at home and fuck the dog. back off is a cardio day if you choose to implement the cardio aspect of the system which is a huge part of creating that ultimate machine were are trying to build. if your just looking for more density and hypertrophy and a better functioning muscle or simply dont have the time to commit to fabrication of the machine we are trying to build thru cardio, cause it is a huge commitment in time, then you wont need the cardio aspect of it.

i somewhat felt the tendons and joints becoming an issue yesterday. tomorrow im doing an all cardio day. when i get up saturday i will go to the gym and put my tissue back under load.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 12, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
I don`t think there is any Science that specifically says you will overtrain doing an hour long bodybuilding workout routine several times a week.

Overtraining is a thing, but not one any of us have to worry about.  Marathon runners are overtrained.  So overtraining is real, just not something that concerns any of us. 

(http://badandmuscled.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/marathon_sprinter-think-again.jpg)

tudor bompa, one of thee acknowledged strength and conditioning coaches of this era has gone do far as to say thru the studies of muscle tissue he ahs seen and the sceince behind sports training, that the muscle NEEDS 48 hours to recover.

hes a smarter dude than i am. so im not going to debate him. i dont doubt a muscle needs 48 hours to recover completely. but what happens when we dont give it 48 hours. does it shrink? not grow? turn to mush? no, the body adapts to the stresses by creating a more efficient resilient fibre thru adaptation. i think this is where tudor bompa and the science of sports training falls short. nobody has ever taken into account adaptation.

its funny. bbers are so afraid of over training, and they are the laziest 'athletes' on the planet. sitting on your phone txting your buddy for 2 minutes after your grueling 15 seconds of effort is a real taxing thing guys. you better be careful you dont overtrain meanwhile taking every performance enhancing, regenerative anabolic know to man...lol

when you really think about it, like it truly is unreal weve bought into this bullshit for so long, whe  we are surrounded by real life instances of adaptation that have created ungodly amounts of fiber- in cyclists. how about fat peoples calves. ever see very fat man with small calves? fuck no- they have HUGE calves.

examples of adaptaion in real life surround us, but we ignore it in favour of 'what we know', and what we've been told regarding recovery and over training.


Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 12, 2014, 02:38:44 PM
Quote
ever see very fat man with small calves? fuck no- they have HUGE calves.

Dennis Wolf nods approvingly whilst turning off the freeway into a McDonalds drive through.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 12, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
Dennis Wolf nods approvingly whilst turning off the freeway into a McDonalds drive through.

I just lold :D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 12, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
I just lold :D

Keep up the posts mate, real interesting stuff.

Im just a bit concerned Sevs going to shatter your confidence and ruin everything.   ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 12, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
tudor bompa, one of thee acknowledged strength and conditioning coaches of this era has gone do far as to say thru the studies of muscle tissue he ahs seen and the sceince behind sports training, that the muscle NEEDS 48 hours to recover.

hes a smarter dude than i am. so im not going to debate him. i dont doubt a muscle needs 48 hours to recover completely. but what happens when we dont give it 48 hours. does it shrink? not grow? turn to mush? no, the body adapts to the stresses by creating a more efficient resilient fibre thru adaptation. i think this is where tudor bompa and the science of sports training falls short. nobody has ever taken into account adaptation.

its funny. bbers are so afraid of over training, and they are the laziest 'athletes' on the planet. sitting on your phone txting your buddy for 2 minutes after your grueling 15 seconds of effort is a real taxing thing guys. you better be careful you dont overtrain meanwhile taking every performance enhancing, regenerative anabolic know to man...lol

when you really think about it, like it truly is unreal weve bought into this bullshit for so long, whe  we are surrounded by real life instances of adaptation that have created ungodly amounts of fiber- in cyclists. how about fat peoples calves. ever see very fat man with small calves? fuck no- they have HUGE calves.

examples of adaptaion in real life surround us, but we ignore it in favour of 'what we know', and what we've been told regarding recovery and over training.



I don`t know if you remember my Gravity Suit conception from 7 years ago, but the idea was to put the max amount of stress in G-Forces on the body for sustained periods of time every single day to force adaptation.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 12, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
I don`t know if you remember my Gravity Suit conception from 7 years ago, but the idea was to put the max amount of stress in G-Forces on the body for sustained periods of time every single day to force adaptation.

you were def on the right track bro.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: smoothasf on June 14, 2014, 03:46:11 AM
Allow me to explain the cyclist thing.
Cyclists ride hundreds of miles however they aren't using there legs as such, it's all cardio vascular system.  They always keep below lactate threshold so that the number of reps their legs do is in theory unlimited.  It takes years to condition legs muscles so that only slow switch fibres are used.  They very rarely use fast twitch fibres and go above lactate threshold and get a pump.
Track cyclists a totally different story they train to increase lactate threshold as much as possible but would never be able to hold it for anywhere near long enough to do a marathon. They train for sprints which is why there legs are huuuge.  They have very little rest in between training sets but the training is maxed out all the time.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: calfzilla on June 19, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Hi been thinking about your new training system and wanted to throw out some questions for you that hopefully you will address in your book: 

1) ETA for the book to be completed. 

2) will this system work well for naturals?

3) Are the workouts total body everyday or just one body part, I don't think I have the energy to do an adequate total body workout daily. 

4) Can we build muscle on this system while dieting/calorie restriction. (galeniko no one diet)?

5) What type of cardio is recommended if it is even part of this system? 

6) How long will the workouts last?  (Under an hr I hope)

7) Will the system work better if one is "bulking" as opposed to dieting?

 What is the rest schedule?  ***side note*** I have noticed when I train with high frequency for several weeks with very few days off, then take a few days off in a row for vacation I tend to get some growth. This intrigues me. Will a "rest cycle" like this be included?  Hmmmm???

 I think that is all I have for now.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: HonestBob on June 19, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
Allow me to explain the cyclist thing.
Cyclists ride hundreds of miles however they aren't using there legs as such, it's all cardio vascular system.  They always keep below lactate threshold so that the number of reps their legs do is in theory unlimited.  It takes years to condition legs muscles so that only slow switch fibres are used.  They very rarely use fast twitch fibres and go above lactate threshold and get a pump.
Track cyclists a totally different story they train to increase lactate threshold as much as possible but would never be able to hold it for anywhere near long enough to do a marathon. They train for sprints which is why there legs are huuuge.  They have very little rest in between training sets but the training is maxed out all the time.

Finally someone in this thread not just talking out of their arse.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on June 19, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Finally someone in this thread not just talking out of their arse.

Up yours, Bob.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Lustral on June 19, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Just reading this has my enthusiasm to train coming back a bit.

Been in a huge rut lately and have no desire to train whatsoever.

You and me both brother. Have been dealing with a shoulder injury (chronic inflammation of tendon) to the point it is sore to adjust temperature in the shower.

Looking forward to training heavy again.

On a side note, I was away June 5th to 12th. Missed Joon leaving, Shizzo getting TO (I liked him) and this thread not to mention a few others.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 19, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
Its not an exact science wIth me, but I train every day within reason..and have for the last three years.

The beauty of anabolics.


I'm shooting you an Email No One...when you get around to it I would be very interested in your protocol
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 19, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Hi been thinking about your new training system and wanted to throw out some questions for you that hopefully you will address in your book: 

1) ETA for the book to be completed. 

2) will this system work well for naturals?

3) Are the workouts total body everyday or just one body part, I don't think I have the energy to do an adequate total body workout daily. 

4) Can we build muscle on this system while dieting/calorie restriction. (galeniko no one diet)?

5) What type of cardio is recommended if it is even part of this system? 

6) How long will the workouts last?  (Under an hr I hope)

7) Will the system work better if one is "bulking" as opposed to dieting?

 What is the rest schedule?  ***side note*** I have noticed when I train with high frequency for several weeks with very few days off, then take a few days off in a row for vacation I tend to get some growth. This intrigues me. Will a "rest cycle" like this be included?  Hmmmm???

 I think that is all I have for now.

hey guys sorry I have been trying to get to my desktop for like a week to wrap it up but fuck w all the nice weather were having I've been enjoying not being at home. only time I post is from the couch on my iPhone lately it seems. lol

1) ok, so to the first question. I'm off till the second week of July on vacation.  I'll have it done in this time frame.

2) yes. the system will work for naturals. adapatation is adaptation. being on anabolics doesn't determine adaptation. recovery has nothing to do with adaptation. pounding the muscle daily forces adaptation. I have a female on it making tremendous progress. her words were 'crazy shit is happening'. she's a lifetime natty. no burners. clen. nothing.

3) you train your whole body daily. if you do the cardio aspect of the system, ie cycling then I don't recommend doing legs. it's just not necessary.

4) you can build muscle on any program that taxes the muscle even in a cal deficit. this program isn't special in that regard. building lean tissue in a deficit works, period.

5) there is a huge cardio component. when I discovered this, for lack of a better word, I set out to create the ultimate machine. someone who didn't just look good, but could maintain an elevated hr for hrs on end, and have tissue that was capable of recovering rapidly. that's a machine. efficiency and performance. that bring said if you don't have time for the cardio component you don't need it to build lean tissue. this will make you look great. the system as a whole creates a machine.

6) workouts are one hr in length once you peak. if your the typical trainer who does 1 body part a day 8-10 sets and takes an hr, you will be able to take the 8-10 set workout your doing now PLUS the 8-10 set workout your doing for your other body parts, and do that in an hour. every single day of the week. so basically you'll be training those body parts 30x in a month as opposed to 4. think about that.

that's how efficient you'll become. I said this is a performance based routine not joking. now, you won't be able to go from there to where your going to end up just like that. you have to work with your body. you have to get it to adapt. if you jump into this it will fucking kill you. this is a 4 stage progression in order to avoid injury and allow the body time to - adapt. first we build your efficiency. we eliminate your rest periods. 10sec rest between sets max. then we start compressing your workout load. so instead of one body part a week, we hit your whole body twice a week. then every 48 hrs. then every day. and the whole time your resting 10seconds between sets.

just think about that. that's fucking impossible you think. no. it isn't. it's very possible. and if you follow this you will be doing that. you will be a machine and you'll create dense qualty tissue. that's the beauty of it.

7) I can't answer this simply because I believe in only giving your body enough calories to meet the demands if the stresses I place on it. the idea of bulking needs to die. do calories build lean tissue? no. protein does. so what in the fuck are people eating an over abundance of cals? so you can 'feel big'? your not big, your fat. being 'big' is having lean impressive tissue regardless of bodyweight not walking around embarassed to take your shirt off at the pool cause you have love handles. lose the bulking mentally bro. you'll thank me later.

8) rest schedule? what's that? rest? there is no rest. 'omg I'll over train!' no. you won't. we been sold a fucking crock of shit for decades. in fact rest days set you back. I shit you not. thats how amazing this adaptation is. in fact once you get 3 weeks into the 3rd level and your busting out whole body workouts every single day, w very limited rest betweeb sets, youll find your body not just keeping up but thriving. lol its so fucked. by week 4-5 you will be honestly thinking 'i need to increase my volume' meaning 'i need more sets. im reparing too quick'. the key to adaptation is to force the body to undergo it. once the body gets used to it it becomes amazingly highly functional. and wants more work. not less. fuck overtraining. it wants MORE. anyway i digress. I chronical my experience w rest days in the book and tell you why they suck.

cheers.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 19, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
hahahaha the classic "hey guys sorry I did not have the chance to respond the AVALANCHE of questions and the huge interest"  ;D

I like no one. He is Vince Goodrum 2.0 although to give him credit he does look better than Vince.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: calfzilla on June 19, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Thanks for answering my questions.

One more quick question:  about how many weeks (or days, months etc) will it take before one can judge that this routine either sucks, works great or just the same as any other? 
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 19, 2014, 11:57:04 PM
Allow me to explain the cyclist thing.
Cyclists ride hundreds of miles however they aren't using there legs as such, it's all cardio vascular system.  They always keep below lactate threshold so that the number of reps their legs do is in theory unlimited.  It takes years to condition legs muscles so that only slow switch fibres are used.  They very rarely use fast twitch fibres and go above lactate threshold and get a pump.
Track cyclists a totally different story they train to increase lactate threshold as much as possible but would never be able to hold it for anywhere near long enough to do a marathon. They train for sprints which is why there legs are huuuge.  They have very little rest in between training sets but the training is maxed out all the time.
Exactly why I can do ten minutes on a stationary bike and take my legs to muscular failure.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on June 20, 2014, 12:02:37 AM
Up yours, Bob.
up mine "big" chiro






please
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: a_pupil on June 22, 2014, 11:59:45 AM
how many sets and exercises you do per bodypart in a session or do you go by time e.g. 5 minutes banging out reps on an exercise.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: nasum on June 22, 2014, 12:25:44 PM
Sorry no one but i will not read your bullshit wall of text if you make some cliff notes I might take a look.

STFU man, no one has one of the best physiques are the forum, he deserves to be listened to.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: nasum on June 22, 2014, 12:30:51 PM
I am definitely interested in your take on this no one. I would be privileged to read your take on training when it is complete. Kudos to you for wanting to give back to the getbig community and bodybuilding in general.

It reads extremely well. Both you and gal have an engaging writing style.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 24, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
I also believe that you can train often and the body adjusts. I also believe in doing the minimmum necessary and nothing more because training harder does not increase size at all. It's about how much hormone is flowing through the blood stream.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Shockwave on June 24, 2014, 10:55:24 AM
I also believe that you can train often and the body adjusts. I also believe in doing the minimmum necessary and nothing more because training harder does not increase size at all. It's about how much hormone is flowing through the blood stream.
I would think common sense would tell you that you can stress the muscle differently and its going to react differently to each level of stress... id say they both play a factor.

Id assume someone with equal hormone level going to absolute muscular failure is going to get different results than a guy whos just barely straining the muscle....
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 24, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
I would think common sense would tell you that you can stress the muscle differently and its going to react differently to each level of stress... id say they both play a factor.

Id assume someone with equal hormone level going to absolute muscular failure is going to get different results than a guy whos just barely straining the muscle....
my practice and experience beg the differ, so...
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Shockwave on June 24, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
my practice and experience beg the differ, so...
Yes, but othera experience contradict yours as well....
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: _aj_ on June 24, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
I also believe that you can train often and the body adjusts. I also believe in doing the minimmum necessary and nothing more because training harder does not increase size at all. It's about how much hormone is flowing through the blood stream.

Jeez, wouldn't this be a kick in the ass? Training intensity is a non-factor, only hormones (endogenous and exogenous) matter? I guess that would explain pro BB's that train like little old ladies.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on June 24, 2014, 12:55:53 PM
Yes, but othera experience contradict yours as well....
no it does not
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
no it does not
(http://s27.postimg.org/h2f7t4gn7/clean_sev.jpg)
Great natty physique
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 24, 2014, 01:17:04 PM
my practice and experience beg the differ, so...

lol what 'practice and experience'.

you have no experience w anabolics. in case I've forgotten maybe you could regale us w your vast cycle history that makes up the bulk of this practice and experience.

your drowning borat in 1600mgs of anabolics in an attempt to bring the 'look and fullness of the 70's bber' and he looks like an auschwitz survivor.

you experience is really paying off. I've never seen such freaky 'fullness'.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on June 24, 2014, 01:18:37 PM
lol what 'practice and experience'.

you have no experience w anabolics. in case I've forgotten maybe you could regale us w your vast cycle history that makes up the bulk of this practice and experience.



Hes been in shape three times in 20 years and used anabolics for around 20 weeks maximum during that time.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on June 24, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
Hes been in shape three times in 20 years and used anabolics for around 20 weeks maximum during that time.

i think he believes he's a 'guru'.

that's how crazy he is. first it was mind control and lizard people. now he's a guru. thats not really a stretch tho when you think abt it. :D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Shockwave on June 24, 2014, 02:53:16 PM
no it does not
Are you seriously saying that your experiences are identical to everyone elses experiences?  And that you know for a fact that what youve found is exactly what happens for everyone else?  That everyones bodies react the same to training stimulus, like yours does?

Man talk about arrogant and close minded...
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: illwill on July 04, 2014, 04:15:41 PM
I look forward to reading this. 
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 04, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Sev is my favorite guru and i love listening to his interviews (even though i don't understand romanian, they are very soothing).

Brings peace to the mind and soul.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 04, 2014, 05:03:26 PM
Sev is my favorite guru and i love listening to his interviews (even though i don't understand romanian, they are very soothing).

Brings peace to the mind and soul.

I have been thinking of asking him to write a chapter on 'boatloading anabolics to look natural'. this is something I don't have any experience with and was hoping he could share his expertise in this area.

I know his system includes giving first time users 1600mgs of anabolics that will give a noticeable flatness to the physique instead of a look of power and strength, then a rather demanding routine of training the whole body once a week to create the lack of density and fibre one would associate with someone who trains intensely and with purpose.

im sure there's more to building a natural looking physique on anabolics that sev can speak on in the book. like I said I don't know much abt it so ill defer to the expert on such matters.

cheers.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 05, 2014, 12:29:49 AM
6:30 am
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: visualizeperfection on July 05, 2014, 12:36:56 AM
6:30 am

great looking scenery. this is romania?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570128;image)

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: ENZO on July 05, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
6:30 am

Look like 2 average naturals
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 05, 2014, 12:46:44 AM
6:30 am

Your lack of natural muscle is impressive. Borat looks like a good natural competitor.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: HonestBob on July 05, 2014, 03:45:01 AM
6:30 am

Two teen home trained natural bodybuilders with Masters heads stuck on top.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 05, 2014, 07:32:46 AM

nice of the ambiguously gay duo to post shirtless pics of themselves frolicking in the Romanian countryside shirtless and 'posing'

nothing gay abt that. at all.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: nasum on July 05, 2014, 07:57:22 AM
nice of the ambiguously gay duo to post shirtless pics of themselves frolicking in the Romanian countryside shirtless and 'posing'

nothing gay abt that. at all.

Aren't they sharing a woman or something as well? Reminds me of this video:

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 05, 2014, 08:37:00 AM
Aren't they sharing a woman or something as well? Reminds me of this video:



it's just odd.
 
like I'm trying to picture myself and xfactor 'posing' shirtless in a field of daisies. like I just can't get there.

a pic at a pool surrounded by hot chicks maybe. minus the posing. but two guys in a field shirtless and posing screams at the very least bad judgement/ kinda homo and at the most someone's  getting their ass reamed shortly.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: gracie bjj on July 05, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
Kudos to you no one. You are trying to help people, and you have the physique to back it up.

Dont listen to the haters.

Let us know how to get the rest of this info.

yes sir i agree n there r lots of people that come on this site to learn stuff from guys like NO ONE and benefit from his yrs of experiance, n NO ONE looks fantastic n has a ton of knowledge under his belt
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 05, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
6:30 am
Why are they both together in a field shirtless at 06.30 am???

Brokeback Mountain of peace.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 05, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
We were heading for thw beach where I took this 70's outdoor throwback classic snapshot. Spectacular ain't it?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 05, 2014, 09:33:59 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4MiO7eDMsCA/T2j4-5nGizI/AAAAAAAAAAg/Uox3YWYpg1o/s320/me+b4.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 05, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
(http://www.martindelacroix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/abs.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: calfzilla on July 05, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
He looks good not gonna argue that but should be bigger and better if on steroids.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 05, 2014, 10:12:44 AM
He looks good not gonna argue that but should be bigger and better if on steroids.
bigger is not better

Quality muscle is the leanest muscle ..all else is just bloat
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: njflex on July 06, 2014, 04:36:09 AM
6:30 am
this pic is not recent,cannot be for one he looks clean'lean'or before prep,to your credit you posted a most muscular in a gym shot and looked much better than here it was 2 wks ago i believe.the beach shot your friend looks very good for his show 'condition'wise and his delts whick look good have a look this '630 am 'shot does not have.he looks good but posts pics with order of taken .oh and btw his beard is trimmer neater 630  and smaller... the beach shot is fuller  beard  ???
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2014, 05:58:52 AM
Pics were taken 3 hours apart and yes all my statements are correct

Boggles your mind doesn't it?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 06, 2014, 08:59:45 AM
Pics were taken 3 hours apart and yes all my statements are correct

Boggles your mind doesn't it?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570128;image)  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570145;image)

You friend has certainly changed in 3 hours.
TBH you look different than in your pic from last week as well.
(http://s27.postimg.org/h2f7t4gn7/clean_sev.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 06, 2014, 02:36:36 PM
Wow it would suck balls to ONLY look halfway decent on gear, whenever you are off cycle your physique turns into dogshit. This is why I tell kids to wait til they turn 25 to start gear.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Shockwave on July 06, 2014, 06:03:05 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570128;image)  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570145;image)

You friend has certainly changed in 3 hours.
TBH you look different than in your pic from last week as well.
(http://s27.postimg.org/h2f7t4gn7/clean_sev.jpg)
Massive beard difference.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: _aj_ on July 06, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
How did Sev and Radu infect another thread?

unsubscribe
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 06, 2014, 07:20:39 PM
How did Sev and Radu infect another thread?

unsubscribe


I just wanted to know when National Geographic started posting here and why they are posting pics of grasshoppers in a field in my thread.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: TEH boob on July 06, 2014, 08:13:19 PM

I just wanted to know when National Geographic started posting here and why they are posting pics of grasshoppers in a field in my thread.

No one! That's not a grasshopper!

(http://a-z-animals.com/media/animals/images/original/stick_insect8.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570128;image)  (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570145;image)

You friend has certainly changed in 3 hours.
TBH you look different than in your pic from last week as well.
(http://s27.postimg.org/h2f7t4gn7/clean_sev.jpg)
true .. IF you knew anything, you would know that when at low low bodyfat, the body changes or can change by the hour or hours

I am fatter and smaller .. after a week of clean eating, the water comes of or the puffiness so to speak and in the second pic I am pumped as well as opposed to morning flat and fat ... an "experienced bodybuilder" such as yourself should know these details and spot them easily.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: visualizeperfection on July 06, 2014, 09:39:21 PM
true .. IF you knew anything, you would know that when at low low bodyfat, the body changes or can change by the hour or hours

I am fatter and smaller .. after a week of clean eating, the water comes of or the puffiness so to speak and in the second pic I am pumped as well as opposed to morning flat and fat ... an "experienced bodybuilder" such as yourself should know these details and spot them easily.


SS has actually competed.

Something you nor borat can say.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2014, 09:45:16 PM

SS has actually competed.

Something you nor borat can say.


we both surpassed his best shape ever so..
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: visualizeperfection on July 06, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
we both surpassed his best shape ever so..

Haha.

Are you afraid that if you ever decided to stop trolling your relevance would disappear faster than borat in a large t shirt?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 06, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
we both surpassed his best shape ever so..
Of course you did, hows Borats ass Sev, apart from the taste.
(http://s12.postimg.org/mk3oslust/shred.jpg)
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 07, 2014, 05:07:53 AM
Of course you did, hows Borats ass Sev, apart from the taste.
(http://s12.postimg.org/mk3oslust/shred.jpg)
thanks for confirming what a massive homo you are
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
Of course you did, hows Borats ass Sev, apart from the taste.
(http://s12.postimg.org/mk3oslust/shred.jpg)
:o
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 07, 2014, 05:35:20 AM
:o
Haven't you sen that before?

Its old news.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 07, 2014, 05:35:59 AM
thanks for confirming what a massive homo you are
Thanks for confirming that you believe calling me homo is some kind of insult.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 07, 2014, 05:43:17 AM
Thanks for confirming that you believe calling me homo is some kind of insult.
I respect your orientation. Not a homophobe. But you don't seem to be a gay man but the fag variety.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 07, 2014, 05:44:22 AM
I respect your orientation. Not a homophobe. But you don't seem to be a gay man but the fag variety.
Your gaydar is way off my little bald friend.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 07, 2014, 05:51:41 AM
true .. IF you knew anything, you would know that when at low low bodyfat, the body changes or can change by the hour or hours

I am fatter and smaller .. after a week of clean eating, the water comes of or the puffiness so to speak and in the second pic I am pumped as well as opposed to morning flat and fat ... an "experienced bodybuilder" such as yourself should know these details and spot them easily.

You really ought to learn how to diet properly mate
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Skorp1o on July 07, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
Of course you did, hows Borats ass Sev, apart from the taste.
(http://s12.postimg.org/mk3oslust/shred.jpg)

 :D

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 07, 2014, 06:19:03 AM
Real zinger there... nBC will recruit you to write for SNL soon
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: BigCyp on July 07, 2014, 06:20:17 AM
great looking scenery. this is romania?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=538710.0;attach=570128;image)



Gayer than a field of sunflowers....
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 07, 2014, 06:21:32 AM
Real zinger there... nBC will recruit you to write for SNL soon

Yes because SNL is the pinnacle of wit and humor in the civilized world.

Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: phreak on July 07, 2014, 06:21:42 AM
Of course you did, hows Borats ass Sev, apart from the taste.
(http://s12.postimg.org/mk3oslust/shred.jpg)

Drier than a Primemuscle cumshot.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: njflex on July 07, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
Haven't you sen that before?

Its old news.
OF COURSE I HAVE,,SEEN IT ALL HERE JUST NOT THAT UP CLOSE ,IT WAS A LITTLE EARLY AM AT WORK AND BAM... ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: WillGrant on July 07, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
Drier than a Primemuscle cumshot.
lmao  ;D
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: CalvinH on July 07, 2014, 07:26:44 AM
Drier than a Primemuscle cumshot.



gEEEEz :-X
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 07, 2014, 08:17:45 AM
No one! That's not a grasshopper!

(http://a-z-animals.com/media/animals/images/original/stick_insect8.jpg)

:D

this is a much more accurate represntation. ty.

however if borat simply added some carbs sparky the guru figures borat would be walking around at a lean and fucking beastly 245.

it would first time i have ever heard of 50 pounds of lean tissue accumulating from 'adding in' some carbohydrates.

at least they look like they belong parading about shirtless in a field of sunflowers.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: BigCyp on July 07, 2014, 08:20:33 AM
:D

this is a much more accurate represntation. ty.

however if borat simply added some carbs sparky the guru figures borat would be walking around at a lean and fucking beastly 245.

it would first time i have ever heard of 50 pounds of lean tissue accumulating from 'adding in' some carbohydrates.



Are you saying that the only way borat could gain 50 pounds of muscle anytime soon, would be to leave his 100g of carbs outside the backdoor and hope to trap a fox?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: no one on July 07, 2014, 09:33:19 AM
Are you saying that the only way borat could gain 50 pounds of muscle anytime soon, would be to leave his 100g of carbs outside the backdoor and hope to trap a fox?

what I'm saying bigcyp is that borat has about as much chance of putting on 50lbs of lean tissue by adding in some carbs as someone has of looking like they actually lift weights by following sparky the gurus cycling/ training advice.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: calfzilla on September 24, 2014, 10:33:20 PM
for 15 weeks and change i've been doing every part, every day. no rest between sets. minimum 10 sets per part. first 6 weeks with weight, then 8 weeks bodyweight (i was travelling), and this week with weight again. was virginally sore hitting the weight again, but seem to have adapted quickly. gonna start throwing some cardio in again.

this is in combination with 44/4 fasting. clean diet (for the most part).

my body comp has changed dramatically. my energy is high, my strength is good. my endurance is better than it has ever been.

i had my body fat tested about 18 months ago by a pro; i'd like to do it again to see where i'm at. do you think it makes more sense to test this while depleted, fasted as long as possible, or after having eaten a decent meal? which would provide the more accurate results?

interested to hear how anyone else is finding this training method.


So you fast for 44 hours and eat for 4?  :o
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 25, 2014, 06:27:01 AM
yeah. the body responds most effectively to 48 hr eating cycles.

Could you elaborate?  I'm no stranger to fasting but I'm curious as to what this means
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: calfzilla on September 25, 2014, 06:35:55 AM
yeah. the body responds most effectively to 48 hr eating cycles.

Damn props to you. I often do 24hr plus fasts with good results but don't think I've ever gone too much over 30. I bet 44 is tough the first time?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 26, 2014, 02:56:56 AM
You really ought to learn how to diet properly mate
;D funny coming from you
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: euterpe on September 27, 2014, 11:32:16 AM
Could you elaborate?  I'm no stranger to fasting but I'm curious as to what this means

the original journal articles that i found about this are not open source, but this is a decent summary:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29011.html

basically says 32+ is ideal, but ghrelin responds best to regulated, pattern-based cycles; i'd rather fast longer than shorter, and eat at the same time eod. cortisol is lowest - less fat storage, gh is highest.

the 41 pages of comments are interesting.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 27, 2014, 11:41:11 AM
the original journal articles that i found about this are not open source, but this is a decent summary:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29011.html

the 41 pages of comments are interesting, with many responses from the OP, who also has a blog.



Very cool, thanks for sharing.  I'm able to access most scholarly journals, so if you have 1-2 articles that you feel are worth reading, please post them up.
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: TEH boob on September 28, 2014, 02:48:08 PM
Very cool, thanks for sharing.  I'm able to access most scholarly journals, so if you have 1-2 articles that you feel are worth reading, please post them up.

 ::) neeeerd
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Trenscendant on July 22, 2019, 02:35:40 PM
Anyone got a copy of the PDF?

No one's been gone for a long ass time
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 22, 2019, 02:40:56 PM
Anyone got a copy of the PDF?

No one's been gone for a long ass time

Welcome to the thunderdome fuckface!!!!!
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Rambone on July 22, 2019, 06:51:42 PM
Anyone got a copy of the PDF?

No one's been gone for a long ass time

No one does.....get it, fuckface?
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: Bevo on July 22, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
No one had one of the best everyday physiques on getbig

6’2 and lean, better than all the midgets
Title: Re: first two chapters of my training system.
Post by: wes on July 22, 2019, 11:19:04 PM
Welcome to the thunderdome fuckface!!!!!
Thanks bro,I was busy elsewhere!  LOL  ;D