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Awesome. Obama making friends everywhere....
BY: Bill Gertz
June 11, 2014 7:15 pm
Four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday.
“The last time we saw anything similar was two years ago on the Fourth of July,” Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Norad spokesman, told the Free Beacon.
Davis said the latest Bear H incursions began Monday around 4:30 p.m. Pacific time when radar detected the four turbo-prop powered bombers approaching the U.S. air defense zone near the far western Aleutian Islands.
Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians.
After tracking the bombers as they flew eastward, two of the four Bears turned around and headed west toward the Russian Far East. The bombers are believed to be based at the Russian strategic base near Anadyr, Russia.
The remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and around 9:30 P.M. entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California.
Two U.S. F-15 jets were deployed and intercepted the bombers as they eventually flew within 50 miles of the coast before turning around and heading west.
A defense official said the four bombers also were supported by two IL-78 aerial refueling tankers that were used for mid-air refueling during the operation this week.
The Tu-95 is a long-range strike aircraft capable of carrying nuclear cruise missiles. Other versions are equipped with intelligence-gathering sensors and electronic warfare gear. It has a range of around 9,400 miles without refueling.
Davis said the aircraft “acted professionally” and the bombers appeared to be conducting a training mission.
“They typically do long range aviation training in the summer and it is not unusual for them to be more active during this time,” he said. “We assess this was part of training. And they did not enter territorial airspace.”
The bomber incursion is the latest Russian nuclear saber-rattling amid stepped up tensions over Moscow’s military annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea.
Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, called the Russian flights “intentional provocations.”
“Putin is doing this specifically to try to taunt the U.S. and exercise, at least in the reported world, some sort of saber-rattling, muscle-flexing kind of nonsense,” Conaway said in an interview. “Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary. But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.
“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert—but overt to Mr. Putin—unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.
“At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”
The Alaska-California bombers flight also came a month after a Russian Su-27 interceptor jet flew dangerously close to a U.S. RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft flying over the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan.
In that incident on April 23, the Su-27 jet flew close to the RC-135, turned to reveal its air-to-air missiles to the crew, and then flew dangerously close to within 100 feet of the cockpit in a maneuver military officials called reckless.
Davis said in the past 10 years, 50 Bear H bombers were intercepted near U.S. air defense zone, although he acknowledged that Monday’s flight near California was unusual.
In April, a telephone conversation between two Russian ambassadors was posted on YouTube and appeared to show the diplomats joking about the Ukraine crisis and discussing the possible incursions in the United States and Eastern Europe.
The leaked conversation between Igor Nilokaevich Chubarov and Sergey Viktorovich Bakharev, Russian ambassadors to the African nations Eritrea and Zimbabwe and Malawi, respectively, includes references to post-Crimea Russian imperialism to include Eastern Europe and “Californialand” and “Miamiland.”
Russian Bear H flights elsewhere have increased in recent years.
In February 2013, two of the bombers were intercepted as they circled the U.S. Pacific island of Guam, in a rare long-range incursion.
Two Bear Hs also were intercepted near Alaska on April 28, 2013.
A Russian Bear H incursion in Asia took place in in July 2013 when two Tu-95s were intercepted by Japanese and South Korean jets near the Korean peninsula and Japan’s northern Hokkaido Island.
The July 4, 2012, bomber flights near the West Coast were the first time since the Cold War that Russian jets has traveled so close to the U.S. coastline.
That action followed an earlier intrusion by Tu-95s near Alaska that were part of large-scale strategic nuclear exercises by the Russians aimed at practicing strikes on enemy air defenses.
Russia has stepped up provocative nuclear war games in recent years as part of propaganda efforts to display Moscow’s dislike of U.S. missile defenses in Europe.
This entry was posted in National Security and tagged Air force, Military, Russia, Vladimir Putin. Bookmark the permalink.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-miles-of-california-coast/
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I hiope these events didn't interrupt Obama while he was golfing or shooting hoops.
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The Russians are currently having problems with their Sukhoi T-50 5th gen fighter prototypes right now. Apparently, the Indians are disappointed in the quality and the issues with these prototypes so far. So, they have bigger things to worry about.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Zp8SCgJZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/vlihkyvdr6xgalvv68cc.jpg)
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I hiope these events didn't interrupt Obama while he was golfing or shooting hoops.
I'm quite sure it didn't. The dumbshit probably didn't even know.
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The Russians are currently having problems with their Sukhoi T-50 5th gen fighter prototypes right now. Apparently, the Indians are disappointed in the quality and the issues with these prototypes so far. So, they have bigger things to worry about.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Zp8SCgJZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/vlihkyvdr6xgalvv68cc.jpg)
What does this have to do with them invading our airspace and coming so close to land?
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I guess they just were too drunk to realize the course was wrong.
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What does this have to do with them invading our airspace and coming so close to land?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Sukhoi_T-50_Pichugin_2.jpg/800px-Sukhoi_T-50_Pichugin_2.jpg)
The Sukhoi PAK FA (Russian: Сухой ПАК ФА, Russian: Перспективный авиационный комплекс фронтовой авиации, Perspektivny Aviatsionny Kompleks Frontovoy Aviatsii, literally "Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation") is a fifth-generation fighter program for the Russian Air Force. The T-50 is the aircraft designed by Sukhoi for the PAK FA programme.
The aircraft is a stealthy, single-seat, twin-engine jet fighter, and will be the first operational aircraft in the Russian Air Force service to use stealth technology. It is a multirole combat aircraft for both air superiority and ground attack missions.
The T-50 is intended to be the successor to the MiG-29 and Su-27 in the Russian Air Force and serve as the basis of the Sukhoi/HAL FGFA being developed with India.
The aircraft combines supercruise speed, low observables, maneuverability, and advanced sensors to overcome legacy fighter aircraft and ground/maritime defences. The T-50 prototype first flew on 29 January 2010 and the aircraft is slated to enter service in the Russian Air Force in 2016.
The prototypes and initial production batch will be delivered with heavily upgraded models of Su-27 powerplants as interim engines while a fresh design engine is currently under development. The T-50 is expected to have a service life of up to 35 years.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Sukhoi_T-50_Beltyukov.jpg/800px-Sukhoi_T-50_Beltyukov.jpg)
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If George Bush was in office still he'd respond by invading a middle eastern country that had nothing to do with this infraction and we'd spend trillions of tax payer dollars re-building that nation after we decimated it so that Dick Cheney could cash in his stock options at Haliburton. Oh how I long for the good old days of Bush ::)
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If George Bush was in office still he'd respond by invading a middle eastern country that had nothing to do with this infraction and we'd spend trillions of tax payer dollars re-building that nation after we decimated it so that Dick Cheney could cash in his stock options at Haliburton. Oh how I long for the good old days of Bush ::)
But we're not talking about George Bush now are we genius? Let me also remind you he went in with approval from both the sides. Yeah, bet you didn't think about that...oh, but of course you did. You just decided to spin it your way.
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I guess they just were too drunk to realize the course was wrong.
They needed refueling ;)
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Awesome. Obama making friends everywhere....
BY: Bill Gertz
June 11, 2014 7:15 pm
Four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday.
“The last time we saw anything similar was two years ago on the Fourth of July,” Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Norad spokesman, told the Free Beacon.
Davis said the latest Bear H incursions began Monday around 4:30 p.m. Pacific time when radar detected the four turbo-prop powered bombers approaching the U.S. air defense zone near the far western Aleutian Islands.
Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians.
After tracking the bombers as they flew eastward, two of the four Bears turned around and headed west toward the Russian Far East. The bombers are believed to be based at the Russian strategic base near Anadyr, Russia.
The remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and around 9:30 P.M. entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California.
Two U.S. F-15 jets were deployed and intercepted the bombers as they eventually flew within 50 miles of the coast before turning around and heading west.
A defense official said the four bombers also were supported by two IL-78 aerial refueling tankers that were used for mid-air refueling during the operation this week.
The Tu-95 is a long-range strike aircraft capable of carrying nuclear cruise missiles. Other versions are equipped with intelligence-gathering sensors and electronic warfare gear. It has a range of around 9,400 miles without refueling.
Davis said the aircraft “acted professionally” and the bombers appeared to be conducting a training mission.
“They typically do long range aviation training in the summer and it is not unusual for them to be more active during this time,” he said. “We assess this was part of training. And they did not enter territorial airspace.”
The bomber incursion is the latest Russian nuclear saber-rattling amid stepped up tensions over Moscow’s military annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea.
Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, called the Russian flights “intentional provocations.”
“Putin is doing this specifically to try to taunt the U.S. and exercise, at least in the reported world, some sort of saber-rattling, muscle-flexing kind of nonsense,” Conaway said in an interview. “Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary. But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.
“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert—but overt to Mr. Putin—unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.
“At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”
The Alaska-California bombers flight also came a month after a Russian Su-27 interceptor jet flew dangerously close to a U.S. RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft flying over the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan.
In that incident on April 23, the Su-27 jet flew close to the RC-135, turned to reveal its air-to-air missiles to the crew, and then flew dangerously close to within 100 feet of the cockpit in a maneuver military officials called reckless.
Davis said in the past 10 years, 50 Bear H bombers were intercepted near U.S. air defense zone, although he acknowledged that Monday’s flight near California was unusual.
In April, a telephone conversation between two Russian ambassadors was posted on YouTube and appeared to show the diplomats joking about the Ukraine crisis and discussing the possible incursions in the United States and Eastern Europe.
The leaked conversation between Igor Nilokaevich Chubarov and Sergey Viktorovich Bakharev, Russian ambassadors to the African nations Eritrea and Zimbabwe and Malawi, respectively, includes references to post-Crimea Russian imperialism to include Eastern Europe and “Californialand” and “Miamiland.”
Russian Bear H flights elsewhere have increased in recent years.
In February 2013, two of the bombers were intercepted as they circled the U.S. Pacific island of Guam, in a rare long-range incursion.
Two Bear Hs also were intercepted near Alaska on April 28, 2013.
A Russian Bear H incursion in Asia took place in in July 2013 when two Tu-95s were intercepted by Japanese and South Korean jets near the Korean peninsula and Japan’s northern Hokkaido Island.
The July 4, 2012, bomber flights near the West Coast were the first time since the Cold War that Russian jets has traveled so close to the U.S. coastline.
That action followed an earlier intrusion by Tu-95s near Alaska that were part of large-scale strategic nuclear exercises by the Russians aimed at practicing strikes on enemy air defenses.
Russia has stepped up provocative nuclear war games in recent years as part of propaganda efforts to display Moscow’s dislike of U.S. missile defenses in Europe.
This entry was posted in National Security and tagged Air force, Military, Russia, Vladimir Putin. Bookmark the permalink.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-miles-of-california-coast/
Joe, when are you going to learn to read the articles before you post them
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Goddamn it Coach. You and booty must be the dumbest posters Getbig has witnessed.
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Joe, when are you going to learn to read the articles before you post them
Better yet, reading an actual book or journal article to form an opinion, instead of relying on Internet Web pages for your knowledge. Lol
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He was too excited to bash the President to bother getting the story straight first.
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What does this have to do with them invading our airspace and coming so close to land?
Reread your article. Basically, I am saying "they don't want none", so there would obviously be a good explanation.
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Joe, when are you going to learn to read the articles before you post them
They ther were 50 miles off the coast of California and had to intercepted. Did you fucks miss that part or do you just want to keep accepting Obama's fuck ups and lick his balls?
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But we're not talking about George Bush now are we genius? Let me also remind you he went in with approval from both the sides. Yeah, bet you didn't think about that...oh, but of course you did. You just decided to spin it your way.
How can you accuse another of spin with that statement coach, im anti obama and have republican ideology running through my veins, but come on , you can still be a republican and not agree with all their policies particularly their bad ones.
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Awesome. Obama making friends everywhere....
BY: Bill Gertz
June 11, 2014 7:15 pm
Four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday.
“The last time we saw anything similar was two years ago on the Fourth of July,” Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Norad spokesman, told the Free Beacon.
Davis said the latest Bear H incursions began Monday around 4:30 p.m. Pacific time when radar detected the four turbo-prop powered bombers approaching the U.S. air defense zone near the far western Aleutian Islands.
Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians.
After tracking the bombers as they flew eastward, two of the four Bears turned around and headed west toward the Russian Far East. The bombers are believed to be based at the Russian strategic base near Anadyr, Russia.
The remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and around 9:30 P.M. entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California.
Two U.S. F-15 jets were deployed and intercepted the bombers as they eventually flew within 50 miles of the coast before turning around and heading west.
A defense official said the four bombers also were supported by two IL-78 aerial refueling tankers that were used for mid-air refueling during the operation this week.
The Tu-95 is a long-range strike aircraft capable of carrying nuclear cruise missiles. Other versions are equipped with intelligence-gathering sensors and electronic warfare gear. It has a range of around 9,400 miles without refueling.
Davis said the aircraft “acted professionally” and the bombers appeared to be conducting a training mission.
“They typically do long range aviation training in the summer and it is not unusual for them to be more active during this time,” he said. “We assess this was part of training. And they did not enter territorial airspace.”
The bomber incursion is the latest Russian nuclear saber-rattling amid stepped up tensions over Moscow’s military annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea.
Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, called the Russian flights “intentional provocations.”
“Putin is doing this specifically to try to taunt the U.S. and exercise, at least in the reported world, some sort of saber-rattling, muscle-flexing kind of nonsense,” Conaway said in an interview. “Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary. But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.
“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert—but overt to Mr. Putin—unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.
“At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”
The Alaska-California bombers flight also came a month after a Russian Su-27 interceptor jet flew dangerously close to a U.S. RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft flying over the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan.
In that incident on April 23, the Su-27 jet flew close to the RC-135, turned to reveal its air-to-air missiles to the crew, and then flew dangerously close to within 100 feet of the cockpit in a maneuver military officials called reckless.
Davis said in the past 10 years, 50 Bear H bombers were intercepted near U.S. air defense zone, although he acknowledged that Monday’s flight near California was unusual.
In April, a telephone conversation between two Russian ambassadors was posted on YouTube and appeared to show the diplomats joking about the Ukraine crisis and discussing the possible incursions in the United States and Eastern Europe.
The leaked conversation between Igor Nilokaevich Chubarov and Sergey Viktorovich Bakharev, Russian ambassadors to the African nations Eritrea and Zimbabwe and Malawi, respectively, includes references to post-Crimea Russian imperialism to include Eastern Europe and “Californialand” and “Miamiland.”
Russian Bear H flights elsewhere have increased in recent years.
In February 2013, two of the bombers were intercepted as they circled the U.S. Pacific island of Guam, in a rare long-range incursion.
Two Bear Hs also were intercepted near Alaska on April 28, 2013.
A Russian Bear H incursion in Asia took place in in July 2013 when two Tu-95s were intercepted by Japanese and South Korean jets near the Korean peninsula and Japan’s northern Hokkaido Island.
The July 4, 2012, bomber flights near the West Coast were the first time since the Cold War that Russian jets has traveled so close to the U.S. coastline.
That action followed an earlier intrusion by Tu-95s near Alaska that were part of large-scale strategic nuclear exercises by the Russians aimed at practicing strikes on enemy air defenses.
Russia has stepped up provocative nuclear war games in recent years as part of propaganda efforts to display Moscow’s dislike of U.S. missile defenses in Europe.
This entry was posted in National Security and tagged Air force, Military, Russia, Vladimir Putin. Bookmark the permalink.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-miles-of-california-coast/
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Everything putin does has meaning. If you can't grasp that simple truth, you should stick to commenting on men in thongs or crying to OMR.
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It's simple. Bomb Mexico.
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(http://www.impawards.com/1984/posters/red_dawn_ver2.jpg)
great movie
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You have someone who onviously has it for Obama and these guys keep trying to defend these actions. It's irritating. It's like they don't know right from wrong.
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So you are saying obama should of ordered to shoot down the russian plane ???
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It's simple. Bomb Mexico.
;D
Watch those "Reds under the Beds" in Cuba to :D
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Were these Russian pilots bodybuilders or power lifters? Not sure why this is on the G&O
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(http://altscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Editors-Pick-The-Russians-are_-Coming-The-Russians-are-Coming.jpg)
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You have someone who onviously has it for Obama and these guys keep trying to defend these actions. It's irritating. It's like they don't know right from wrong.
yes, please tell us exactly what Obama did wrong in this situation
I wonder if he was even informed at the time given that they were not in our air space and given that in the last 5 years there have been 50 intercepts of Russian military aircraft entering North American Air Defense Identification Zone which is considered international airspace.
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And what should obama have done? Got into a fighter jet and gone out to intercept them? The stupidity of the OP is once again proven. Its the military's job to handle these details. Russkies tried saber rattling and were intercepted. End of story. Its been happening for years and a number of countries do this to each other. Nothing happens except throwing uninformed retards like coach into a panic and going into his default hate obama mode. Predictable.
Conservatives and liberals are probably the most retarded people around. Every little thing is a chance to attack the other side. No rational or logical thought - just flat out stupidity.
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I dunno, maybe some are missing the point. Obama, whether you want to admit it or not has made this country weak. No one and I mean NO ONE is afraid of us so much to the point now they taunt us. So you tell me what should have been done.
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I dunno, maybe some are missing the point. Obama, whether you want to admit it or not has made this country weak. No one and I mean NO ONE is afraid of us so much to the point now they taunt us. So you tell me what should have been done.
The only one missing the point is you. What should obama do since you place the blame squarely on him? Send a few jets on a training exercise to russia to retaliate? Demand Putins head on a platter? Light the batsignal? All this taunting has been going on for decades. Every country does it. Do you really think any country is less afraid of the US now than ever before just because of its current president. Bitch please. Go hide in your bunker.
Since you have it all figured out why don't you tell us what he should have done?
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(http://www.c3iopscenter.com/currentops/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ClemenceauColJackRipper.jpg)
another classic
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I dunno, maybe some are missing the point. Obama, whether you want to admit it or not has made this country weak. No one and I mean NO ONE is afraid of us so much to the point now they taunt us. So you tell me what should have been done.
You know, whenever I post something stupid, I just lay back and let the thread die. You should do the same.
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The only one missing the point is you. What should obama do since you place the blame squarely on him? Send a few jets on a training exercise to russia to retaliate? Demand Putins head on a platter? Light the batsignal? All this taunting has been going on for decades. Every country does it. Do you really think any country is less afraid of the US now than ever before just because of its current president. Bitch please. Go hide in your bunker.
Since you have it all figured out why don't you tell us what he should have done?
1. I dunno, sanctions obviously didn't work. Obama has proven to be no leader in anyway shape or form. The number one priority of a president (not Obama because I hardly consider him a "leader") is to protect it's people. He's weak at best.
2. Going on for decades? Yes, I know but not 50 miles off of our coast from a country 6000 miles away that hates us..lol.
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You know, whenever I post something stupid, I just lay back and let the thread die. You should do the same.
Feel free to point out where I'm wrong. Obama is all but useless.
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Awesome. Obama making friends everywhere....
BY: Bill Gertz
June 11, 2014 7:15 pm
Four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday.
“The last time we saw anything similar was two years ago on the Fourth of July,” Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Norad spokesman, told the Free Beacon.
Davis said the latest Bear H incursions began Monday around 4:30 p.m. Pacific time when radar detected the four turbo-prop powered bombers approaching the U.S. air defense zone near the far western Aleutian Islands.
Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians.
After tracking the bombers as they flew eastward, two of the four Bears turned around and headed west toward the Russian Far East. The bombers are believed to be based at the Russian strategic base near Anadyr, Russia.
The remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and around 9:30 P.M. entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California.
Two U.S. F-15 jets were deployed and intercepted the bombers as they eventually flew within 50 miles of the coast before turning around and heading west.
A defense official said the four bombers also were supported by two IL-78 aerial refueling tankers that were used for mid-air refueling during the operation this week.
The Tu-95 is a long-range strike aircraft capable of carrying nuclear cruise missiles. Other versions are equipped with intelligence-gathering sensors and electronic warfare gear. It has a range of around 9,400 miles without refueling.
Davis said the aircraft “acted professionally” and the bombers appeared to be conducting a training mission.
“They typically do long range aviation training in the summer and it is not unusual for them to be more active during this time,” he said. “We assess this was part of training. And they did not enter territorial airspace.”
The bomber incursion is the latest Russian nuclear saber-rattling amid stepped up tensions over Moscow’s military annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea.
Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, called the Russian flights “intentional provocations.”
“Putin is doing this specifically to try to taunt the U.S. and exercise, at least in the reported world, some sort of saber-rattling, muscle-flexing kind of nonsense,” Conaway said in an interview. “Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary. But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.
“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert—but overt to Mr. Putin—unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.
“At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”
The Alaska-California bombers flight also came a month after a Russian Su-27 interceptor jet flew dangerously close to a U.S. RC-135 reconnaissance aircraft flying over the Sea of Okhotsk, north of Japan.
In that incident on April 23, the Su-27 jet flew close to the RC-135, turned to reveal its air-to-air missiles to the crew, and then flew dangerously close to within 100 feet of the cockpit in a maneuver military officials called reckless.
Davis said in the past 10 years, 50 Bear H bombers were intercepted near U.S. air defense zone, although he acknowledged that Monday’s flight near California was unusual.
In April, a telephone conversation between two Russian ambassadors was posted on YouTube and appeared to show the diplomats joking about the Ukraine crisis and discussing the possible incursions in the United States and Eastern Europe.
The leaked conversation between Igor Nilokaevich Chubarov and Sergey Viktorovich Bakharev, Russian ambassadors to the African nations Eritrea and Zimbabwe and Malawi, respectively, includes references to post-Crimea Russian imperialism to include Eastern Europe and “Californialand” and “Miamiland.”
Russian Bear H flights elsewhere have increased in recent years.
In February 2013, two of the bombers were intercepted as they circled the U.S. Pacific island of Guam, in a rare long-range incursion.
Two Bear Hs also were intercepted near Alaska on April 28, 2013.
A Russian Bear H incursion in Asia took place in in July 2013 when two Tu-95s were intercepted by Japanese and South Korean jets near the Korean peninsula and Japan’s northern Hokkaido Island.
The July 4, 2012, bomber flights near the West Coast were the first time since the Cold War that Russian jets has traveled so close to the U.S. coastline.
That action followed an earlier intrusion by Tu-95s near Alaska that were part of large-scale strategic nuclear exercises by the Russians aimed at practicing strikes on enemy air defenses.
Russia has stepped up provocative nuclear war games in recent years as part of propaganda efforts to display Moscow’s dislike of U.S. missile defenses in Europe.
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http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-miles-of-california-coast/
Lets not get carried away, Joe......
This is a Tu-95. It may be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead but so can any other plane from Ethopia.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Tupolev_Tu-95_Marina.jpg/300px-Tupolev_Tu-95_Marina.jpg)
It has fucking propellers!!!! Its the pride of Russia and its also a slow moving piece of shit compared to our B-52's.....The plan is 62 years old and was built back in the 50's. Nothing to see here
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Another fuck up thread by the dumbest person on Getbig.
Is it possible for someone to be so stupid that they don't even know they are stupid?
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Lets not get carried away, Joe......
This is a Tu-95. It may be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead but so can any other plane from Ethopia.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Tupolev_Tu-95_Marina.jpg/300px-Tupolev_Tu-95_Marina.jpg)
It has fucking propellers!!!! Its the pride of Russia and its also a slow moving piece of shit compared to our B-52's.....The plan is 62 years old and was built back in the 50's. Nothing to see here
Tu-95 is the fastest propellored aircraft. And it is NOT the pride of Russia.
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Another fuck up thread by the dumbest person on Getbig.
Is it possible for someone to be so stupid that they don't even know they are stupid?
Feel free to qualify that libtard
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Tu-95 is the fastest propellored aircraft. And it is NOT the pride of Russia.
That's their MAIN BOMBER. They only have 16 of the the jet bombers...and most of them are not even running.
They can beat up on some Somali Pirates or a 3rd World Country but it would get blown out of the sky by our airplanes. It only got within 50 miles because the guys watching were prob laughing their asses off at this garbage truck with wings coming at them
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The Russians are currently having problems with their Sukhoi T-50 5th gen fighter prototypes right now. Apparently, the Indians are disappointed in the quality and the issues with these prototypes so far. So, they have bigger things to worry about.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-is-what-a-bbqd-russian-5th-generation-fighter-look-1589559175)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Zp8SCgJZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/vlihkyvdr6xgalvv68cc.jpg)
Good catch Parker, I've read the official reports on the joint project lets just say it's a big pos
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If you should be worried about something than this is it, not planes.
This can not be caught easily and it is armed with quite a few bulavas
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Doesn't make any difference if were a paper airplane. They still came within 50 miles. Seriously with the excuses ::)
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That's their MAIN BOMBER. They only have 16 of the the jet bombers...and most of them are not even running.
They can beat up on some Somali Pirates or a 3rd World Country but it would get blown out of the sky by our airplanes. It only got within 50 miles because the guys watching were prob laughing their asses off at this garbage truck with wings coming at them
most? Only 4 of them didnt a american newspaper find photos of or papers about them be in the air btw 2011 and 2013
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Doesn't make any difference if were a paper airplane. They still came within 50 miles. Seriously with the excuses ::)
russia do this all the time to other countried to., what should obama do when the russians didnt break any rules?
Fucking dumbass start to read what you post before you do it.
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Doesn't make any difference if were a paper airplane. They still came within 50 miles. Seriously with the excuses ::)
If Obama was a republican president, would you be bitching and moaning? ::) ::) I bet you would not have even started this thread!
You're concerned not with his actions, but that he is a democrat. If we nominated the best president in the world, who just happened to be democrat, you would still bitch and moan and nitpick at every little thing. You would ignore all the good actions of a democrat president and look for anything bad, even if there was nothing to look for.
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Joe, when are you going to learn to read the articles before you post them
coach doesn't believe in education so he never learned to read
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Doesn't make any difference if were a paper airplane. They still came within 50 miles. Seriously with the excuses ::)
A paper airplane would have been more of a threat than that piece of shit. Those pilots were prob praying that the bucket wouldn't fall apart before it got back .
However, we've been flying planes INTO THEIR COUNTRIES SINCE THE LATE 50's. So what???
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A paper airplane would have been more of a threat than that piece of shit. Those pilots were prob praying that the bucket wouldn't fall apart before it got back .
However, we've been flying planes INTO THEIR COUNTRIES SINCE THE LATE 50's. So what???
Which side are you on, Vince?
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If Obama was a republican president, would you be bitching and moaning? ::) ::) I bet you would not have even started this thread!
You're concerned not with his actions, but that he is a democrat. If we nominated the best president in the world, who just happened to be democrat, you would still bitch and moan and nitpick at every little thing. You would ignore all the good actions of a democrat president and look for anything bad, even if there was nothing to look for.
if Obama would react to thus non illegal russian fly he would cry like a 13 year old girl that obama is going to start ww3
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Which side are you on, Vince?
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1. I dunno, sanctions obviously didn't work. Obama has proven to be no leader in anyway shape or form. The number one priority of a president (not Obama because I hardly consider him a "leader") is to protect it's people. He's weak at best.
2. Going on for decades? Yes, I know but not 50 miles off of our coast from a country 6000 miles away that hates us..lol.
I dunno..i dunno. Yeah you never seem to have a clue as to what you're talking about. You're a trained attack dog. No logical thought process just..OBama..woof woof woof.
Bush was even weaker. The guy ran and hid during 9/11. He did nothing other than sign off on Cheny and Rumsfelds schemes. He was on vacation for the most part of his presidency..dodged the vietnam war etc.
The only arguement you have left is your 50 mile arguement? Are you that retarded...mentally as well as physically? The only reason it was allowed to get that far was because the US let it. Even if it got within 10 miles what would have happened? Nothing. Cause they wouldve been torn apart. Maybe obama should have a radar put into the white house so he can respond better. Why leave that job to the airforce or navy right?
Incidentally there are ruskie spies , muslim terrorists and other assorted baddies who have been in the US for decades plotting and planning and you're worrried about a fuckin museum piece aircraft that came within 50 miles of the US. Bitch please
Why dont you run and hide in your bunker. Dumbass conservatives are even worse than liberals.
I'm still laughing at your lame 50 mile arguement....omigod its ww3...lol
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russia do this all the time to other countried to., what should obama do when the russians didnt break any rules?
Fucking dumbass start to read what you post before you do it.
We're not other countries "Mensa".
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The libtards are coming out in full force this evening. I fuking love it.
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if Obama would react to thus non illegal russian fly he would cry like a 13 year old girl that obama is going to start ww3
Exactly. He only sees what he wants to see. He does not see actions. He sees Democrat. Even if Obama was an awesome president, he would still be picking him apart. If Obama was a republican, he would be praising him.
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We're not other countries "Mensa".
for the rest of the world you are. and obama only has himself to blame for this with his sanctions against russia, if it was a civil war in mexico btw a side that was pro usa and one anti you would have done the same as russia and more
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I dunno..i dunno. Yeah you never seem to have a clue as to what you're talking about. You're a trained attack dog. No logical thought process just..OBama..woof woof woof.
Bush was even weaker. The guy ran and hid during 9/11. He did nothing other than sign off on Cheny and Rumsfelds schemes. He was on vacation for the most part of his presidency..dodged the vietnam war etc.
The only arguement you have left is your 50 mile arguement? Are you that retarded...mentally as well as physically? The only reason it was allowed to get that far was because the US let it. Even if it got within 10 miles what would have happened? Nothing. Cause they wouldve been torn apart. Maybe obama should have a radar put into the white house so he can respond better. Why leave that job to the airforce or navy right?
Incidentally there are ruskie spies , muslim terrorists and other assorted baddies who have been in the US for decades plotting and planning and you're worrried about a fuckin museum piece aircraft that came within 50 miles of the US. Bitch please
Why dont you run and hide in your bunker. Dumbass conservatives are even worse than liberals.
I'm still laughing at your lame 50 mile arguement....omigod its ww3...lol
Hold on.. And you actually have a clue? Seriously? Jesus Christ you're and Idiot. How was Bush weaker? When did he hide? One thing I've learned about liberals is that they're some of the dumbest mother fuckers around. Just the fact that you voted (allegedly) this fucking traitor in twice proves that.
And then we have SF1900, Mr. Sensitive. "If it were Bush"....it's not Bush, Putin wouldn't be stupid enough to pull that shit. So quit with the "what ifs" the fact you assholes are trying to cover this guys ass makes you no less than a traitor. If you take a offence to that comment well, then fuck you and move to another country.
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The libtards are coming out in full force this evening. I fuking love it.
Translation - i 've failed to any valid points so i'm going to call you liberals. Good plan coach. Go full retard when all else fails.
Btw do you know what a mile is?
Can you count to 50?
Just curious since real world facts seem to be a bit beyond your grasp.
How about we shift this conversation to unicorns? Maybe Noah's ark...y'know make believe stuff that you may actually be able to converse about. Maybe not converse intelligently but still.......
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Exactly. He only sees what he wants to see. He does not see actions. He sees Democrat. Even if Obama was an awesome president, he would still be picking him apart. If Obama was a republican, he would be praising him.
HUGE difference between a democrat and wacked out liberal. You have whacked out liberals in this administration and the head wack job is YOUR "president". Case in point, this dumbshit opens the floodgates for illegals to come in, AZ can't house them then this fuck talks about gun control...lol.
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Hold on.. And you actually have a clue? Seriously? Jesus Christ you're and Idiot. How was Bush weaker? When did he hide? One thing I've learned about liberals is that they're some of the dumbest mother fuckers around. Just the fact that you voted (allegedly) this fucking traitor in twice proves that.
And then we have SF1900, Mr. Sensitive. "If it were Bush"....it's not Bush, Putin wouldn't be stupid enough to pull that shit. So quit with the "what ifs" the fact you assholes are trying to cover this guys ass makes you no less than a traitor. If you take a offence to that comment well, then fuck you and move to another country.
haha, why should I move? I did not do anything wrong. In fact, I am a law abiding citizen. I am not trying to cover for Obama. I am merely pointing out your bias. I never said Obama was right or wrong. Did I? Point it out. Nope, I didn't. Again, you're only reading what you want to read. As stated, I am merely pointing out your consistent bias against democrats, this time and all other times.
Your opinion does not mean anything because you get your facts from internet webpages. When was the last time you actually read a book on politics that was over 300pages? lol
Ha, melting down because your arguments constantly get owned in every thread lol.
Yes, Coach keep fighting the good fight by arguing and getting mad about Obama over a bodybuilding forum. LMAO!!
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Translation - i 've failed to any valid points so i'm going to call you liberals. Good plan coach. Go full retard when all else fails.
Btw do you know what a mile is?
Can you count to 50?
Just curious since real world facts seem to be a bit beyond your grasp.
How about we shift this conversation to unicorns? Maybe Noah's ark...y'know make believe stuff that you may actually be able to converse about. Maybe not converse intelligently but still.......
You haven't made one valid point as to why your defending Obama being weak leading to Russia coming into our airspace 50 miles from our coast.
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haha, why should I move? I did not do anything wrong. In fact, I am a law abiding citizen. I am not trying to cover for Obama. I am merely pointing out your bias. I never said Obama was right or wrong. Did I? Point it out. Nope, I didn't. Again, you're only reading what you want to read. As stated, I am merely pointing out your consistent bias against democrats, this time and all other times.
Your opinion does not mean anything because you get your facts from internet webpages. When was the last time you actually read a book on politics that was over 300pages? lol
Ha, melting down because your arguments constantly get owned in every thread lol.
You mean a book that wasn't written for the public school system? (I'll let you figure that comment out)
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HUGE difference between a democrat and wacked out liberal. You have whacked out liberals in this administration and the head wack job is YOUR "president". Case in point, this dumbshit opens the floodgates for illegals to come in, AZ can't house them then this fuck talks about gun control...lol.
haha sure, now you're differentiating between liberals and democrats. You hate democrats and liberals the same.
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haha, why should I move? I did not do anything wrong. In fact, I am a law abiding citizen. I am not trying to cover for Obama. I am merely pointing out your bias. I never said Obama was right or wrong. Did I? Point it out. Nope, I didn't. Again, you're only reading what you want to read. As stated, I am merely pointing out your consistent bias against democrats, this time and all other times.
Your opinion does not mean anything because you get your facts from internet webpages. When was the last time you actually read a book on politics that was over 300pages? lol
Ha, melting down because your arguments constantly get owned in every thread lol.
Yes, Coach keep fighting the good fight by arguing and getting mad about Obama over a bodybuilding forum. LMAO!!
Btw, you should ask Obama the same question.
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Hold on.. And you actually have a clue? Seriously? Jesus Christ you're and Idiot. How was Bush weaker? When did he hide? One thing I've learned about liberals is that they're some of the dumbest mother fuckers around. Just the fact that you voted (allegedly) this fucking traitor in twice proves that.
And then we have SF1900, Mr. Sensitive. "If it were Bush"....it's not Bush, Putin wouldn't be stupid enough to pull that shit. So quit with the "what ifs" the fact you assholes are trying to cover this guys ass makes you no less than a traitor. If you take a offence to that comment well, then fuck you and move to another country.
Try again moron. I never voted for bush or obama.Just shows that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. One thing i've learned about liberals and conservatives is that they are the most retarded people on the planet... with conservatives leading the way. you are living proof. Don't rely on facts just guess and hope its right. The fact that you supported bush says volumes about your intelligence or lack of. I guess now you're on the conservative vs liberal rant now right. Lost the primary arguement so lets shift gears and hope that works right.
Easy to see why you're one of the most laughed at people here. Then again based on your multiple meltdowns whenever you get trounced thats not suprisng .
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haha sure, now you're differentiating between liberals and democrats. You hate democrats and liberals the same.
You realize you'll lose this right?
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HUGE difference between a democrat and wacked out liberal. You have whacked out liberals in this administration and the head wack job is YOUR "president". Case in point, this dumbshit opens the floodgates for illegals to come in, AZ can't house them then this fuck talks about gun control...lol.
your to, but maybe you see yourself as a mexican more the american ;D
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Try again moron. I never voted for bush or obama.Just shows that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. One thing i've learned about liberals and conservatives is that they are the most retarded people on the planet... with conservatives leading the way. you are living proof. Don't rely on facts just guess and hope its right. The fact that you supported bush says volumes about your intelligence or lack of. I guess now you're on the conservative vs liberal rant now right. Lost the primary arguement so lets shift gears and hope that works right.
Easy to see why you're one of the most laughed at people here. Then again based on your multiple meltdowns whenever you get trounced thats not suprisng .
That's funny considering you made an accusation with proven facts.
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You mean a book that wasn't written for the public school system? (I'll let you figure that comment out)
Any book. Get a book by Howard Zinn, David McCullough, or Noam Chomsky. Why are you so scared to read a book? :-\ :-\
You realize that there are books that exist OUTSIDE of public school systems. You know, there are these weird places called "Libraries" and "Bookstores." Yes, they exist. And you what? These places sell these weird rectangular shaped things called "Books." These books are not public school system books. Adults actually read these books, too.
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your to, but maybe you see yourself as a mexican more the american ;D
Brilliant answer. I would expect nothing less.
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You realize you'll lose this right?
Youve pretty much expressed your disdain for both over the years. Give it a rest.
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Brilliant answer. I would expect nothing less.
calm down pedro it was a joke. Stop melting down just because you didnt read the whole article before you posted it so everyone here is laughing at you
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You haven't made one valid point as to why your defending Obama being weak leading to Russia coming into our airspace 50 miles from our coast.
Whose defending obama.what does obama have to do with a russian aircraft entering us airspace? Thats my point. If an aircraft violates us airspace that is a job for the airforce /navy. Don't drag everyone into your obama paranoia. You made it about obama which is your chief obsession. Everyone else is trying to talk sense into you while you are sliding all over the place. Whats your next defense? Make it a conservative vs liberal arguement?....oh wait. ;D
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Any book. Get a book by Howard Zinn, David McCullough, or Noam Chomsky. Why are you so scared to read a book? :-\ :-\
You realize that there are books that exist OUTSIDE of public school systems. You know, there are these weird places called "Libraries" and "Bookstores." Yes, they exist. And you what? These places sell these weird rectangular shaped things called "Books." These books are not public school system books. Adults actually read these books, too.
Not too long ago I finished Liberty and Tyranny by Mark Levin. That was the most recent. You won't read it because it deals with facts.
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Not too long ago I finished Liberty and Tyranny by Mark Levin. That was the most recent. You won't read it because it deals with facts.
Actually, no, I wont read it because I do not read those type of books any more, dingus.
Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn also deal with facts. What's your point? lol
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Whose defending obama.what does obama have to do with a russian aircraft entering us airspace? Thats my point. If an aircraft violates us airspace that is a job for the airforce /navy. Don't drag everyone into your obama paranoia. You made it about obama which is your chief obsession. Everyone else is trying to talk sense into you while you are sliding all over the place. Whats your next defense? Make it a conservative vs liberal arguement?....oh wait. ;D
It has everything to do with Obama and his lack of foreign policy. Putin knew this guy was a joke from the get go. He knew he was weak and knew he could walk all over him. We have a person in office who literally has no clue. He doesn't stand up for this country what so ever.
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That's funny considering you made an accusation with proven facts.
I'm glad we both agree that conservatives are even more retarded than liberals
Or was it the provenfact that you're the most laughed at person on the board thanks to your "flights" of fantasy.
Is there a history of mental illness in your family coach? I'm getting a bit concerned that i'm beating up on someone who has neither the intelligence or the wits to fight back. Based on all your responses you have yet to make a single valid point. All you seem to be doing is lashing out whenever you get proved wrong....which has happened numerous times on this thread.
Is there a physician or institute we can call so they can get you medicated and calmed down. Maybe we should call your mommy so she can come pick her little...and i mean little on so many levels....boy .up.
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It has everything to do with Obama and his lack of foreign policy. Putin knew this guy was a joke from the get go. He knew he was weak and knew he could walk all over him. We have a person in office who literally has no clue. He doesn't stand up for this country what so ever.
So obama being weak somehow affected the airforce and navy who let an aircraft enter US airspace.
Makes perfect sense. Who knows maybe a few more months and they'll make it to 30 miles from US shores.
Goddamn that obama and his jedi mind tricks.
Lets revisit this thread then.
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If anyone wants to keep arguing/debating with this fat midget....please refer to this post :
Coach Joe Debating 101.....
If you can't refute a single point or provide a somewhat intelligent response to a valid point or argument.....gloss over it or simply say "You're a god damned liberal"...
Joe's ass getting destroyed in this thread with complete ease.
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If anyone wants to keep arguing/debating with this fat midget....please refer to this post :
Joe's ass getting destroyed in this thread with complete ease.
I almost want to believe he's trolling. Surely no one can be this retarded.
Sadly lil joey is a legit moron. I think we should ease up. Not a good thing to beat up the mentally challenged.
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So obama being weak somehow affected the airforce and navy who let an aircraft enter US airspace.
Makes perfect sense. Who knows maybe a few more months and they'll make it to 30 miles from US shores.
Goddamn that obama and his jedi mind tricks.
Lets revisit this thread then.
There may be a correlation between Obamas presidency and this recent incident, but thats not causation, unless otherwise proven by evidence.
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It has everything to do with Obama and his lack of foreign policy. Putin knew this guy was a joke from the get go. He knew he was weak and knew he could walk all over him. We have a person in office who literally has no clue. He doesn't stand up for this country what so ever.
not choosing tl start ww3 for a non illegal act by russia is being weak?
Geez having people like you ruling a country is dangerous, you would rather start a war then being seen as weak.
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If anyone wants to keep arguing/debating with this fat midget....please refer to this post :
Joe's ass getting destroyed in this thread with complete ease.
Much like how I destroy you with your CrossFit obsession and training methodologies. Right???
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not choosing tl start ww3 for a non illegal act by russia is being weak?
Geez having people like you ruling a country is dangerous, you would rather start a war then being seen as weak.
If it wasn't illegal then why were they intercepted?
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I almost want to believe he's trolling. Surely no one can be this retarded.
Sadly lil joey is a legit moron. I think we should ease up. Not a good thing to beat up the mentally challenged.
You've nor anyone else who defends this have come up with a reason to defend this exept to demonize me. But that's what the left does when they can't come up with a coherent argument. I've heard nothing but rhetoric and bullshit.
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Much like how I destroy you with your CrossFit obsession and training methodologies. Right???
Does Obama do Crossfit? :'( :'(
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Does Obama do Crossfit? :'( :'(
Arguing with coach of peace :-X
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If it wasn't illegal then why were they intercepted?
more proof that you didnt read the article, they didnt fly in territorial airspace. Its common form countrys to send up jets as a show of strenght if another country comes near the territorial zone. Even my country sweden does that and we are the biggest pussycountry in the world
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Arguing with coach of peace :-X
;D ;D
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more proof that you didnt read the article, they didnt fly in territorial airspace. Its common form countrys to send up jets as a show of strenght if another country comes near the territorial zone. Even my country sweden does that and we are the biggest pussycountry in the world
Let me try this again. It's not common for a country that already doesn't think much of their "leader" to come 6000miles and fly off the coast California if they we not trying to intimidate. Did you read the article??? So, one more time. If it was no big deal then why was NORAD alerted to intercept?
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You've nor anyone else who defends this have come up with a reason to defend this exept to demonize me. But that's what the left does when they can't come up with a coherent argument. I've heard nothing but rhetoric and bullshit.
Demonize you..lol. Is this the next line of defense?.
I'm sorry you lack the intelligence to make valid points but thats not my fault. Blame your parents for failing to provide you with a decent education...or oxygen at birth.
If you want to hear less rhetoric and bullshit you should probably stop starting retarded threads.
Coherent arguement? Do you know what that means? Quick.. I want you to google the definition of those two words and then reread what you've typed so far. Does any of your posts have any coherence to them?
Wait don't answer yet...go google first.
See...i'm trying to help you educate yourself. Next time you may actually read and UNDERSTAND articles before you go into your obama drama hour.
Good luck.
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;D ;D
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No one, not even you have come up with a reason to blindly defend this.
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Demonize you..lol. Is this the next line of defense?.
I'm sorry you lack the intelligence to make valid points but thats not my fault. Blame your parents for failing to provide you with a decent education...or oxygen at birth.
If you want to hear less rhetoric and bullshit you should probably stop starting retarded threads.
Coherent arguement? Do you know what that means? Quick.. I want you to google the definition of those two words and then reread what you've typed so far. Does any of your posts have any coherence to them?
Wait don't answer yet...go google first.
See...i'm trying to help you educate yourself. Next time you may actually read and UNDERSTAND articles before you go into your obama drama hour.
Good luck.
Well, you haven't came up with anything.
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No one, not even you have come up with a reason to blindly defend this.
I swear, you are horrible at understanding peoples points lol. NEVER ONCE DID I SAY THAT YOU WERE WRONG ON THIS ISSUE!! NEVER ONCE DID I SAY THAT YOU WERE NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! IN FACT, I NEVER TRIED TO DEFEND OBAMA OR PUTIN ABOUT THIS INCIDENT! IN FACT, I NEVER STATED THAT OBAMA IS OR ISN'T TOO BLAME!!
The only point I am making in this thread is your bias against obama. Not just this time, but every time. That is the only thing that was explicitly stated by me is your bias.
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Well, you haven't came up with anything.
Sigh...didn't i just give you some homework to do?
I deliberately chose google because i realize a dictionary may be too heavy...figuratively and literally..for you.
Were you ever diagnosed with ADD? You're all over the place.
Stop trying to shore up your losing arguements and go do your homework you little brat.
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Let me try this again. It's not common for a country that already doesn't think much of their "leader" to come 6000miles and fly off the coast California if they we not trying to intimidate. Did you read the article??? So, one more time. If it was no big deal then why was NORAD alerted to intercept?
when did i say it was not a big deal? Stop putting words in others mouths. It was a big deal and it was a provocation from russia but they did not do anything illegal. Dont know what norad is but ofcourse if a russiam bomber is in the usas defence zone they will send up jets.
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when did i say it was not a big deal? Stop putting words in others mouths. It was a big deal and it was a provocation from russia but they did not do anything illegal. Dont know what norad is but ofcourse if a russiam bomber is in the usas defence zone they will send up jets.
You're not going to get through...just like the russian bomber never got through.
He doesn't understand what anyone has being saying thus far. I would suggest rewording what you typed in a way that a 3yr old would understand. When i say 3yr old ...I mean a 3yr old with a severe learning disability.
Coach? If you're still there i would suggest getting a grownup to read all this and explain it to you.
Good luck
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You're not going to get through...just like the russian bomber.
He doesn't understand what anyone has being saying thus far. I would suggest rewording what you typed in a way that a 3yr old would understand. When i say 3yr old ...I mean a 3yr old with a severe learning disability.
Coach? If you're still there i would suggest getting a grownup to read all this and explain it to you.
Good luck
lol u should ask my 5 year old to try to explain to him
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lol u should ask my 5 year old to try to explain to him
Sure if you want your five yr old to be repeatedly called a liberal. There's the inevitable obama rants which seems to start off with no rhyme or reason.
Well at least your five yr old will be physically bigger and will be able to give him a wedgie when he acts up.
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Sure if you want your five yr old to be repeatedly called a liberal. There's the inevitable obama rants which seems to start off with no rhyme or reason.
Well at least your five yr old will be physically bigger and will be able to give him a wedgie when he acts up.
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This would be a perfect time to post the midget coach gif
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This would be a perfect time to post the midget coach gif
Do you thonk we're being too short with coach?
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I would've made a hell of a fighter pilot. I still have 20/20 and I would have been just poured into that uniform.
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Much like how I destroy you with your CrossFit obsession and training methodologies. Right???
You haven't destroyed anything you pudgy little twat. Show me ONE place you did. I could show you plenty that I have owned the fuck out of you.....want a quick example?
Chronic vs. Acute compartment syndrome.
By the way...when you "train" people....do you stand on a box to compensate?
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If George Bush was in office still he'd respond by invading a middle eastern country that had nothing to do with this infraction and we'd spend trillions of tax payer dollars re-building that nation after we decimated it so that Dick Cheney could cash in his stock options at Haliburton. Oh how I long for the good old days of Bush ::)
You're just a simpleton liberal. He invaded after approval from both Democrats and Republicans. Aside from his use of chemical weapons of mass destruction he was using all his oil money to build the biggest military in the mid east. All intelligence said he was gathering information and developing nuclear weapons. His competitor Iran is already developing nuclear weapons. Don't think for a second he wouldn't have beaten Iraq to this goal.Having a brutal regime amassing a massive Army for the region had to be stopped.
Obama is the worse president ever. The economy was good under Bush until both sides of Congress went Democratic. That's when the out of control spending happened and Democratic control of the banks occurred. When Obama had both the House and the Senate Democratic in the first few years of his Presidency he could have done anything he wanted to accomplish but he did nothing. Now he complains the Republican House won't let him have his way with wasting money. It's Bush's fault and the House's fault, right?
All the scandals he has been involved in would have brought down any other President but lucky for him the overwhelming majority of the news providers from tv, cable, print and internet are all left of left. The media guide the dumb sheep and they follow.
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As I said previously to coach I have republican type blood running through my veins, but that does not mean I have to agree with every policy, you cannot possibly quote what you have just said with a straight face with an iq over 90.
Obama is the worst ever president but it isn't because of his foreign policy, its because of his socialist ideology and his non ability to look to Europe and see the basket case it is from social welfare and healthcare and to head down the same path.
Iraq was wrong so was arming al Qaeda to destabilise Assad, both sides of politics have got their foreign policy wrong but Obama less so in that area, economics different story.
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bush cheney are the biggest mass murderers of the 21st century. The century is still quite young so they may lose the title, but right now they wear the belt.
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Feel free to qualify that libtard
Seeing how I directed the stupidity comment towards you, I already did "qualify that". ::)
Be honest with us here. Were you always this stupid or did you work extra hard to get there?
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Quote from: Krankenstein on May 10, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
Coach Joe Debating 101.....
If you can't refute a single point or provide a somewhat intelligent response to a valid point or argument.....gloss over it or simply say "You're a god damned liberal"...
Or either his old stand by.... "You just don't get it do you?" before leaving the thread after catching a vicious ass beating.
Joe's ass getting destroyed in this thread with complete ease.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Let me try this again. It's not common for a country that already doesn't think much of their "leader" to come 6000miles and fly off the coast California if they we not trying to intimidate. Did you read the article??? So, one more time. If it was no big deal then why was NORAD alerted to intercept?
Close calls happen. This wasn't one. As recent as 83 (under Reagan) we went to defcon 1
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/5-cold-war-close-calls
we are constantly flirting with other countries, flying near them just to see what we can get away with. It's what big countries with cool weapons do.
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Sigh...didn't i just give you some homework to do?
I deliberately chose google because i realize a dictionary may be too heavy...figuratively and literally..for you.
Were you ever diagnosed with ADHD? You're all over the place.
Stop trying to shore up your losing arguements and go do your homework you little brat.
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You haven't made one valid point as to why your defending Obama being weak leading to Russia coming into our airspace 50 miles from our coast.
Oh give me a break. Russia flies 4 broken down pieces of shit from the 1950's and you blame it on Obama. Our F-15's went out to intercept them and they turned around and left.
Just shut the fuck up...
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Actually, no, I wont read it because I do not read those type of books any more, dingus.
Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn also deal with facts. What's your point? lol
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Are you ready for the 8 years of Hiliry Clinton to come , COACH?
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