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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Rami on June 22, 2014, 03:04:22 AM
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100 reps for biceps and 100 for triceps if done in a separate workout for arms?
and how many for each side of forearms?
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Did 102 concentration curls for each arm for biceps.
50 triceps push downs on chairs with 110 lbs on the legs, 50 french curls with dumbbells for each arm.
50 wrist curls with 55lbs dumbbells
50 reverse wrist curls with 45lbs dumbbells
10 with 12lbs dumbbells
That's it.
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Quality beats quantity training in the long run -if the quantity training is not monitored and planned out that is
high frequency training can be the cats rear end if done right, you guys all know that I know, just sayin though
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I train arms infrequently, and I have great arms. Regular training is not needed.
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This is a question that Marty Champions could answer.
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I train arms infrequently, and I have great arms. Regular training is not needed.
This is what am thinking also arms need to recover for a longer time. I only train arms when I know I can get that certain fullness during the workout, or it's just over training and you're going backwards.
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I train arms infrequently, and I have great arms. Regular training is not needed.
Pics or it did nt happen
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Train arms every week. Arnold did. Why wouldn't you? :-\ :-\
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Train arms every week. Arnold did. Why wouldn't you? :-\ :-\
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ok I'll try to fit it in
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ok I'll try to fit it in
I do 9 sets for biceps and 9 sets for triceps.
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I train arms infrequently, and I have great arms. Regular training is not needed.
That's some bullshit government propaganda! !!
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That's some bullshit government propaganda! !!
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ive been throwing a few punches and doing split legged deadlifts 10 pushups a day
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ive been throwing a few punches and doing split legged deadlifts 10 pushups a day
Great to see you back at it man.
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The falcon future mma champion.
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Great to see you back at it man.
epic hydration is key
tofu=key for curing lower back
wheatflour/white flour /pasta= key for non crashing white power energy
soy milk and lemonade= key for refreshment and hot weather
fried potatoes with mixed veggetables key for overall health
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white power energy
Racist post reported.
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I do biceps and triceps on different days and spend about 25 minutes on each. I usually do biceps two days after back and triceps two days after chest.
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This is what am thinking also arms need to recover for a longer time. I only train arms when I know I can get that certain fullness during the workout, or it's just over training and you're going backwards.
Statement from someone who knows nothing about hypertrophy. Asking for advices on Getbig = same thing.
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Statement from someone who knows nothing about hypertrophy. Asking for advices on Getbig = same thing.
Tell us more about hypertrophy Vince.
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vince basile has 'tensil' strenth he developed over YEARS of smart training
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Statement from someone who knows nothing about hypertrophy. Asking for advices on Getbig = same thing.
when have you ever displayed more than a swimmers physique, Mr Hypertrophy. ::)
oh that's right. you haven't. we've all seen your pics. 170lbs of breaststroking butterflying fury.
save this topic for people who know how to create tissue and go make us some sammiches.
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Statement from someone who knows nothing about hypertrophy. Asking for advices on Getbig = same thing.
Haha, this fucking guy and his superiority complex..... what a douche.
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Haha, this fucking guy and his superiority complex..... what a douche.
Watch your tongue or Basile will use his arm machine to travel back in time to alter your life history.
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If you have to ask for advices on Getbig you have no clue about bodybuilding. If you have paid your dues you don't ask the silly questions.
Hypertrophy is a physical process that can be controlled. Learning how to do that is what bodybuilding is all about. Most have no idea how
to start a muscle growing and keep it growing. It surprises me that so many are confused in 2014. Then again, I am not surprised because
most guys in gyms believe all manner of rubbish. Free weights are better than machines is one false belief.
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If you have to ask for advices on Getbig you have no clue about bodybuilding. If you have paid your dues you don't ask the silly questions.
Hypertrophy is a physical process that can be controlled. Learning how to do that is what bodybuilding is all about. Most have no idea how
to start a muscle growing and keep it growing. It surprises me that so many are confused in 2014. Then again, I am not surprised because
most guys in gyms believe all manner of rubbish. Free weights are better than machines is one false belief.
What about this machine?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
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If you have to ask for advices on Getbig you have no clue about bodybuilding. If you have paid your dues you don't ask the silly questions.
Hypertrophy is a physical process that can be controlled. Learning how to do that is what bodybuilding is all about. Most have no idea how
to start a muscle growing and keep it growing. It surprises me that so many are confused in 2014. Then again, I am not surprised because
most guys in gyms believe all manner of rubbish. Free weights are better than machines is one false belief.
I get my info here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20847704 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20847704) but if that's not enough, I contact Craig Titus to fill in the rest.
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The journal cited is not very useful for hypertrophy research. Is there a link to the full article?
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I've found the best rep range is around 10. The best way to train arms is with the heaviest weight possible while using excellent form.
Here's my workout:
Tricep Extension: 5X10
Preacher Curl: 5X10
Close Grip Bench Press: 5X10
Reverse Curls: Up and down rack for as many reps possible
Preacher curl: Light weight for 100 reps
Absolutely destroys my arms very week. They also get hit hard indirectly on other days (Dips, bench press, etc.)
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I train them no different than I train any other muscle
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What about this machine?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
That MS paint "photoshopped" turkey gobbler gets me every time.
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I found the full text article. More reading here:
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanisms_of_muscle_hypertrophy.pdf
https://www.google.com/#q=hypertrophy+journal
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_hypertrophy_specialist
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/fitness_articles_by_brad_schoenfeld.php
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What about this machine?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
There can't be anything in this world better than that machine. That has so many bells and whistles it has to be unbeatable, what comes to engineering overkill.
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Yes, because the the most successfully engineered pieces are always the most complicated. ;D
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170lbs of breaststroking butterflying fury.
Hope you don't mind if I steal this line in the future ;D
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If you have to ask for advices on Getbig you have no clue about bodybuilding. If you have paid your dues you don't ask the silly questions.
Hypertrophy is a physical process that can be controlled. Learning how to do that is what bodybuilding is all about. Most have no idea how
to start a muscle growing and keep it growing. It surprises me that so many are confused in 2014. Then again, I am not surprised because
most guys in gyms believe all manner of rubbish. Free weights are better than machines is one false belief.
I read a lot about different training methodologies, bodybuilding diets, high protein and supplements etc. At one point I thought I knew all that was needed. But the more I tried different ways the more I realized no one really have this stuff figured out. Bodybuilders preach one way or the other, and that what they are doing is the ultimate way of training and eating, meanwhile they are on steroids and who knows what other drugs and probably feel like shit most of the time.
When I applied my own thinking after reading about diets, training from a non bodybuilding point of view, dropped all powders and supplements, I saw better results than ever and felt better than ever.
Machines are definitely not necessary if you have dumbbells and pullup. I didn't use machines for years. Have you ever considered that maybe you have done it wrong this whole time? Are you willing to question everything? To start from scratch now and then, not get stuck in routine that could be wasting a lot of your effort.
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Another guru who knows all about building muscles but somehow fails to build any of them himself ::)
I found the full text article. More reading here:
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanisms_of_muscle_hypertrophy.pdf
https://www.google.com/#q=hypertrophy+journal
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_hypertrophy_specialist
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/fitness_articles_by_brad_schoenfeld.php
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The falcon future mma champion.
isn't that marty champion?
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isn't that marty champion?
I think so.
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I think so.
Yes that's him just hitting his heydays, some bad ass power punching right there. Nobody took the challenge either.
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Yes that's him just hitting his heydays, some bad ass power punching right there. Nobody took the challenge either.
I don't blame them, neither would I.
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I read a lot about different training methodologies, bodybuilding diets, high protein and supplements etc. At one point I thought I knew all that was needed. But the more I tried different ways the more I realized no one really have this stuff figured out. Bodybuilders preach one way or the other, and that what they are doing is the ultimate way of training and eating, meanwhile they are on steroids and who knows what other drugs and probably feel like shit most of the time.
When I applied my own thinking after reading about diets, training from a non bodybuilding point of view, dropped all powders and supplements, I saw better results than ever and felt better than ever.
Machines are definitely not necessary if you have dumbbells and pullup. I didn't use machines for years. Have you ever considered that maybe you have done it wrong this whole time? Are you willing to question everything? To start from scratch now and then, not get stuck in routine that could be wasting a lot of your effort.
After 56 years bodybuilding there is no hope for me re changing much. However, being a philosopher of science I will abandon or modify my theory of hypertrophy if it is falsified. So far no one has done that.
It isn't a question of free weights vs machines. Do the muscles know the difference? I doubt it. Apply enough mechanical tension to a target muscle in a workout and the muscle is stimulated to grow. Eat a balanced diet with sufficient nutrients and you should grow.
Show me someone who built big calves or backs with free weights alone. That is the trouble with bodybuilding and muscleheads in the gym...too many believe all manner of rubbish.
I was wrong for about 40 years. Then I figured out how to trigger rapid hypertrophy from each and every workout. I also understand why most guys who train hard are not growing much or at all. That is part of the theory of hypertrophy.
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Yes, because the the most successfully engineered pieces are always the most complicated. ;D
Have you had any patents in your name? Have you designed an original piece of gym equipment?
Designers always aim for simplicity. However, when a machine like my biceps supinator has resistance in two degrees of freedom
things get complicated. The machine has many adjustments and 21 pulleys. It is complicated because of what it is capable of doing.
No one else has ever made such a machine. Sure, the lads here poke fun at me but that was a difficult machine to design and build.
I did everything by myself. I don't know of any other champion bodybuilder who has designed and built a professional piece of gym
equipment. The apparatus designed by Larry Scott are good but they are not pin loaded machines. Frank Zane didn't make any
significant contribution to gym equipment design. I was the first builder to use linear bearings in a Smith Machine (1982). Now all Smith
Machines use linear bearings.
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We all laugh at vinces piece of shit bicep machine but to give the bloke his dues he must have decent fabrication skills ( I assume he builds them himself )
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We all laugh at vinces piece of shit bicep machine but to give the bloke his dues he must have decent fabrication skills ( I assume he builds them himself )
A Ferrari engine has fewer belts than Vince's bicep machine.
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Have you had any patents in your name? Have you designed an original piece of gym equipment?
Designers always aim for simplicity. However, when a machine like my biceps supinator has resistance in two degrees of freedom
things get complicated. The machine has many adjustments and 21 pulleys. It is complicated because of what it is capable of doing.
No one else has ever made such a machine. Sure, the lads here poke fun at me but that was a difficult machine to design and build.
I did everything by myself. I don't know of any other champion bodybuilder who has designed and built a professional piece of gym
equipment. The apparatus designed by Larry Scott are good but they are not pin loaded machines. Frank Zane didn't make any
significant contribution to gym equipment design. I was the first builder to use linear bearings in a Smith Machine (1982). Now all Smith
Machines use linear bearings.
I work in machine tool design and manufacturing. I deal with fairly complicated designs on a daily basis. The one thing ill tell you that every good engineer knows, its not how slick, or cool, or how much you can add that makes a great design... its when you design a complex system and simplify it to the point where you cannot take anything OFF while still performing its purpose that constitutes greatness.
Fankly I dont care if you have patents... patents dont mean shit. Is your machine industry standard? Does it have even a niche/cult following? Or do you own a patent on a machine that you have in your gym and a couple friends that you sold them too? Designs dont mean shit if no one wants the goddamn things.
Look, its great that you tried to design something yourself, but dont lie to yourself. You made something your proud of, but not something that anybody cares for. Its clearly overengineered and complicated looking, and thay kind of stupid shit matters to people. If it looks overly complicated, theyre going to assume it is and be off-put right from the get go. There is a lot of ways you could hide and simplify that system but you didnt, im assuming because you wanted it to look flashy and complicated.
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Is it true that vince invented the linear bearing smith machine?
Pretty big claim id say
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I hit them whenever they aren't sore. Seems to be doing the trick so far but I know mine will never be a strong point unless I piana on them..
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I work in machine tool design and manufacturing. I deal with fairly complicated designs on a daily basis. The one thing ill tell you that every good engineer knows, its not how slick, or cool, or how much you can add that makes a great design... its when you design a complex system and simplify it to the point where you cannot take anything OFF while still performing its purpose that constitutes greatness.
Fankly I dont care if you have patents... patents dont mean shit. Is your machine industry standard? Does it have even a niche/cult following? Or do you own a patent on a machine that you have in your gym and a couple friends that you sold them too? Designs dont mean shit if no one wants the goddamn things.
Look, its great that you tried to design something yourself, but dont lie to yourself. You made something your proud of, but not something that anybody cares for. Its clearly overengineered and complicated looking, and thay kind of stupid shit matters to people. If it looks overly complicated, theyre going to assume it is and be off-put right from the get go. There is a lot of ways you could hide and simplify that system but you didnt, im assuming because you wanted it to look flashy and complicated.
Let us see just one of your original designs of a piece of gym equipment. How can you tell if something is over engineered if you have not seen it working or have used it? Engineers and designers try to solve mechanical problems. Often there are several solutions to problems and the trick is to find the best solution that works. This is true of gym equipment. When you have a problem that no one has solved before it is a difficult process. I well remember having a chat with the head of the Mechanical Engineering faculty at Sydney University. He couldn't solve the mechanical problem of a machine that provides resistance for curling and simultaneously for twisting or supination. I was proud of my solution. I have seen another solution but mine is the most compact. I wasn't interested in making the machine flashy looking and complicated. I did use lots of stainless steel parts because I wanted the device to last a long, long time. There is only one such machine built that I know of.
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Let us see just one of your original designs of a piece of gym equipment. How can you tell if something is over engineered if you have not seen it working or have used it? Engineers and designers try to solve mechanical problems. Often there are several solutions to problems and the trick is to find the best solution that works. This is true of gym equipment. When you have a problem that no one has solved before it is a difficult process. I well remember having a chat with the head of the Mechanical Engineering faculty at Sydney University. He couldn't solve the mechanical problem of a machine that provides resistance for curling and simultaneously for twisting or supination. I was proud of my solution. I have seen another solution but mine is the most compact. I wasn't interested in making the machine flashy looking and complicated. I did use lots of stainless steel parts because I wanted the device to last a long, long time. There is only one such machine built that I know of.
the whole of your problem is that you think you are far more intelligent than you really are.
hope this helps.
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If a muscle doesn't know the difference between free weights and machines, why would anybody need that over engineered piece of
shit equipment?
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9 sets of bi,s n 12 sets of tris, if each set is done with enough intensity thats all a person needs for growth
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Let us see just one of your original designs of a piece of gym equipment. How can you tell if something is over engineered if you have not seen it working or have used it? Engineers and designers try to solve mechanical problems. Often there are several solutions to problems and the trick is to find the best solution that works. This is true of gym equipment. When you have a problem that no one has solved before it is a difficult process. I well remember having a chat with the head of the Mechanical Engineering faculty at Sydney University. He couldn't solve the mechanical problem of a machine that provides resistance for curling and simultaneously for twisting or supination. I was proud of my solution. I have seen another solution but mine is the most compact. I wasn't interested in making the machine flashy looking and complicated. I did use lots of stainless steel parts because I wanted the device to last a long, long time. There is only one such machine built that I know of.
And there is a reason there is only one machine that you know of. Because no one else gives a shit.
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If a muscle doesn't know the difference between free weights and machines, why would anybody need that over engineered piece of shit equipment?
Thanks for your positive contribution to bodybuilding. Most bodybuilders are, indeed, intellectually challenged. Hope this helps?
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the whole of your problem is that you think you are far more intelligent than you really are.
hope this helps.
It is always refreshing to hear the opinion of a true expert!
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And there is a reason there is only one machine that you know of. Because no one else gives a shit.
Inventors invent and critics criticize. I will use this machine to forge new growth in my biceps. That is what matters to me.
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Vince Basile
why cant
you visit your
family in Canada
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Vince Basile
why cant
you visit your
family in Canada
Spent my money on cameras and lenses instead of airfares. Overdue for a visit since last there 10 years ago.
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Let us see just one of your original designs of a piece of gym equipment. How can you tell if something is over engineered if you have not seen it working or have used it? Engineers and designers try to solve mechanical problems. Often there are several solutions to problems and the trick is to find the best solution that works. This is true of gym equipment. When you have a problem that no one has solved before it is a difficult process. I well remember having a chat with the head of the Mechanical Engineering faculty at Sydney University. He couldn't solve the mechanical problem of a machine that provides resistance for curling and simultaneously for twisting or supination. I was proud of my solution. I have seen another solution but mine is the most compact. I wasn't interested in making the machine flashy looking and complicated. I did use lots of stainless steel parts because I wanted the device to last a long, long time. There is only one such machine built that I know of.
First of all, that must be one of the most beautiful gym machine ever made with all that stainless steel, wheels and wires. No one can deny that, and it is obvious it hasn't been made by some impulse, but by long and hard planning. What you didn't know is the first rule of the engineering: When you find a way to do it, simplify it to the bone. That is when real engineering starts, and machines are simplified as much it is needed for production. That's why you don't see this kind of machines in any other gym. Think about it? What if you would have ability to simplify the idea for production, and you would have sell thousand of those all over the world? You would be a millionaire, not just some hasbeen with net worth of few dollars ;D
Secondly, It would be nice to see even something this wannabe designer cockwave has done, not just hear that he is engineering genius in his own mind. Do we ever see that day? Nope. In the internet it is very easy claim to be anything, but proving things is far more difficult, because you can't prove lie to be truth. I mean any one can search net for different kind of drawings and plans, but only some of us, like Vince, can prove it has been done by him.
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First of all, that must be one of the most beautiful gym machine ever made with all that stainless steel, wheels and wires. No one can deny that, and it is obvious it hasn't been made by some impulse, but by long and hard planning. What you didn't know is the first rule of the engineering: When you find a way to do it, simplify it to the bone. That is when real engineering starts, and machines are simplified as much it is needed for production. That's why you don't see this kind of machines in any other gym. Think about it? What if you would have ability to simplify the idea for production, and you would have sell thousand of those all over the world? You would be a millionaire, not just some hasbeen with net worth of few dollars ;D
Secondly, It would be nice to see even something this wannabe designer cockwave has done, not just hear that he is engineering genius in his own mind. Do we ever see that day? Nope. In the internet it is very easy claim to be anything, but proving things is far more difficult, because you can't prove lie to be truth. I mean any one can search net for different kind of drawings and plans, but only some of us, like Vince, can prove it has been done by him.
I got the idea of a biceps-supinator from Arthur Jones and his articles. He wrote that the biceps had two main functions but biceps machines had resistance for only the curling action. There was no resistance for the twisting movement.
If you want to do both at the same time it is possible with dumbbells with long hand grips. Merely hold the dumbbell close to one side and slowly twist it while curling it upward. Complete the outward twisting movement before the dumbbell is parallel with the floor.
You will get a good pump if you do them this way. Keep the insides of the dumbbells and little fingers higher than the thumbs all the way through the curl. At the top of the curl lift your elbows a bit and that is the third function of the biceps. Slowly lower to
the start and rotate inward until the hands are facing each other at the bottom of the movement.
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Vince Basile
why cant
you visit your
family in Canada
he cant enter Canada
he is a pedo
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he cant enter Canada
he is a pedo
Would you care to illuminate us about what exactly you are referring to?
Whatever is a "pedo"? Is that Getbig jargon for something? ???
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I got the idea of a biceps-supinator from Arthur Jones and his articles. He wrote that the biceps had two main functions but biceps machines had resistance for only the curling action. There was no resistance for the twisting movement.
If you want to do both at the same time it is possible with dumbbells with long hand grips. Merely hold the dumbbell close to one side and slowly twist it while curling it upward. Complete the outward twisting movement before the dumbbell is parallel with the floor.
You will get a good pump if you do them this way. Keep the insides of the dumbbells and little fingers higher than the thumbs all the way through the curl. At the top of the curl lift your elbows a bit and that is the third function of the biceps. Slowly lower to
the start and rotate inward until the hands are facing each other at the bottom of the movement.
wow ROCKET SCIENCE VINCE RoCKEt SCIeNCE!!!!
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vince basically took the barbell curl then added a 25 speed bicycle gear transmission to it and thinks its brilliant
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the news is that in fact the bicep does not supinate. The forearm and wrist does therefore the apparatus strikes me as unnecessarily gigantic.
Perhaps for version 2.0 the mechanism should be limited to the grips?
hmmm riddle me this.
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Inventors invent and critics criticize. I will use this machine to forge new growth in my biceps. That is what matters to me.
No you won't.
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vince basically took the barbell curl then added a 25 speed bicycle gear transmission to it and thinks its brilliant
No, I conceived of an idea then found a solution and finally built the machine. The interesting thing is it is quite easy to make machines that do all kinds of movements but
with a piece of gym equipment you have to operate the device. This required that the mechanism be adjacent to the arms and it was not obvious what the solution was. There are
two solutions but I built the most compact version.
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No you won't.
:D
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First of all, that must be one of the most beautiful gym machine ever made with all that stainless steel, wheels and wires. No one can deny that, and it is obvious it hasn't been made by some impulse, but by long and hard planning. What you didn't know is the first rule of the engineering: When you find a way to do it, simplify it to the bone. That is when real engineering starts, and machines are simplified as much it is needed for production. That's why you don't see this kind of machines in any other gym. Think about it? What if you would have ability to simplify the idea for production, and you would have sell thousand of those all over the world? You would be a millionaire, not just some hasbeen with net worth of few dollars ;D
Secondly, It would be nice to see even something this wannabe designer cockwave has done, not just hear that he is engineering genius in his own mind. Do we ever see that day? Nope. In the internet it is very easy claim to be anything, but proving things is far more difficult, because you can't prove lie to be truth. I mean any one can search net for different kind of drawings and plans, but only some of us, like Vince, can prove it has been done by him.
Pffft, I'm no engineer, no have I ever claimed to be. I literally said the same thing you did, you just said it in a much nicer way. I said I work in MACHINE TOOL DESIGN with the engineers, specifically R&D, meaning the engineers bring me their machines, I'm responsible for fleshing out their problems, finding ways to make them easier for customers to use, and make sure they work as advertised.
Unlike Basile, I am no legend in my own mind, nor do I try and convince others how awesome my shit is when no one wants the damn thing. But I know overengineering when I see it, as do you, since you literally pointed out the exact same fucking things I did.
Clearly reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
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No you won't.
Don't you remember his experiment bro? He added huge mass to those sick guns.
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Pffft, I'm no engineer, no have I ever claimed to be. I literally said the same thing you did, you just said it in a much nicer way. I said I work in MACHINE TOOL DESIGN with the engineers, specifically R&D, meaning the engineers bring me their machines, I'm responsible for fleshing out their problems, finding ways to make them easier for customers to use, and make sure they work as advertised.
Unlike Basile, I am no legend in my own mind, nor do I try and convince others how awesome my shit is when no one wants the damn thing. But I know overengineering when I see it, as do you, since you literally pointed out the exact same fucking things I did.
Clearly reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
So I should understand this sentence: "I work in machine tool design and manufacturing. I deal with fairly complicated designs on a daily basis. The one thing ill tell you that every good engineer knows, its not how slick, or cool, or how much you can add that makes a great design" to mean " I'm no engineer, no have I ever claimed to be." ?
I gladly admit that I have some reading comprehension difficulties, because you guys write like little children's, and English isn't my native language. But what about Vince, he did same mistake, and this is his native language. We didn't realize that you are just an assistant, and I bet we are both sorry about this mistake..
;D ::) ;D
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So I should understand this sentence: "I work in machine tool design and manufacturing. I deal with fairly complicated designs on a daily basis. The one thing ill tell you that every good engineer knows, its not how slick, or cool, or how much you can add that makes a great design" to mean " I'm no engineer, no have I ever claimed to be." ?
I gladly admit that I have some reading comprehension difficulties, because you guys write like little children's, and English isn't my native language. But what about Vince, he did same mistake, and this is his native language. We didn't realize that you are just an assistant, and I bet we are both sorry about this mistake..
;D ::) ;D
Exactly, working in machine tool design and manufacturing =/= claiming to be an engineer. It means I work in machine tool design and manufacturing, and that every good engineer I've ever worked with has always said the same thing its not how slick, or cool, or how much you can add that makes a great design
I'll agree that I didn't exactly specify what I did, and that english isn't your native language, but generally just because someone is associated with design/mfg doesn't make them an engineer.
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100 reps for biceps and 100 for triceps if done in a separate workout for arms?
and how many for each side of forearms?
My friend the best thing to do if you're a beginner is to get basic books on physiology, and nutrition. And then educate yourself. Learn muscle fiber difference, and selection. Training how's and whys. This is the best way, because then you'll gain priceless knowledge, save years of trial and error. Asking on a board, isn't your best option. As you can see from the responses .
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No, I conceived of an idea then found a solution and finally built the machine. The interesting thing is it is quite easy to make machines that do all kinds of movements but
with a piece of gym equipment you have to operate the device. This required that the mechanism be adjacent to the arms and it was not obvious what the solution was. There are
two solutions but I built the most compact version.
vince you act like you fabricated an engine or something dude. why not just invent a home surgical device that sucks out all the outside fat or better yet just zaps it away.
your not impressing anyone by using old bicycle parts to build a curling machine
what dont you invent a drywall jack or lift something useful and constructive
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I found the full text article. More reading here:
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/articles/mechanisms_of_muscle_hypertrophy.pdf
https://www.google.com/#q=hypertrophy+journal
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_hypertrophy_specialist
http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/fitness_articles_by_brad_schoenfeld.php
Nobody wants to see this Brad Schoenfeld naked
Trying pretty hard to make his barely existent biceps more perceptible.
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vince you act like you fabricated an engine or something dude. why not just invent a home surgical device that sucks out all the outside fat or better yet just zaps it away.
your not impressing anyone by using old bicycle parts to build a curling machine
what dont you invent a drywall jack or lift something useful and constructive
Wtf, is wrong with you guys? Who else on Getbig has patented anything? I made something that has never been made before. I am not claiming anything except that I built an original machine.
I didn't use old bicycle parts. I had to fashion all the parts of this machine. I applied for a patent in 1991 but didn't get around to building it until 2001. I literally didn't think I could do it.
I just got to work and made it work. It has seen several modifications since and is still being fine tuned.
When I set out to build this machine I had hopes that every gym would want one. That hasn't happened. I approached Cybex and Nautilus but they weren't interested. I have no desire
to build any more to sell. I am not that impressed with doing business with gym owners. Neither was Arthur Jones.
It is a fact that I have built some of the best gym equipment in the world. Come to my gym and see for yourself. I have lots of original equipment from benches to machines.
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What exactly is the patent for a "bicep supinator"?
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What exactly is the patent for a "biceps supinator"?
Here you go. When I talked to a patent attorney he told me the total cost of an application would be $10,000. What a joke. His application was rejected by the USA Patent Office so he had to resubmit it
and it finally was approved in 1995, 4 years later. I also got patents in Canada, Great Britain, Germany and Australia. A total waste of money. The sensible thing to do is design and build something then
hide it and show it only to people willing to sign a non disclosure document. Then sell the design to them and let them apply for a patent. We spent over $50,000 on patent fees. They charge annual fees as well.
A complete scam if you ask me. Then gym equipment companies will copy anything they want and if you don't have the resources to fight them you lose. I have had people in Australia copy my designs.
I ended up with a bad attitude about anyone who built gym equipment. Many claimed they were gifted but I didn't see much in the way of exceptional designs. Very few people make money from
patents and even fewer from gym equipment. Arthur Jones made and lost a fortune with Nautilus and then MedX. He was the smartest guy in the industry. But he never built a biceps-supinator.
https://www.google.com/patents/US5413546
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Wtf, is wrong with you guys? Who else on Getbig has patented anything? I made something that has never been made before. I am not claiming anything except that I built an original machine.
I didn't use old bicycle parts. I had to fashion all the parts of this machine. I applied for a patent in 1991 but didn't get around to building it until 2001. I literally didn't think I could do it.
I just got to work and made it work. It has seen several modifications since and is still being fine tuned.
When I set out to build this machine I had hopes that every gym would want one. That hasn't happened. I approached Cybex and Nautilus but they weren't interested. I have no desire
to build any more to sell. I am not that impressed with doing business with gym owners. Neither was Arthur Jones.
It is a fact that I have built some of the best gym equipment in the world. Come to my gym and see for yourself. I have lots of original equipment from benches to machines.
Honestly i respect your drive to create "something". it seems that you made this device in your first few years into your retirement. meaning you had alot of time to fuck around and build something. Im not trying to be mean im saying keep inventing stuff but dont invent another exercise machine, its a waste of time , its not constructive at all, Any child can think of a way to torcher a muscle from every single angle possible and so what is the end result. well there you are , thats the result im sure youve done it all and so has the rest, time to give it up on the idea of the magic exercise time to move towards more enlightening creations
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Pffft, I'm no engineer, no have I ever claimed to be. I literally said the same thing you did, you just said it in a much nicer way. I said I work in MACHINE TOOL DESIGN with the engineers, specifically R&D, meaning the engineers bring me their machines, I'm responsible for fleshing out their problems, finding ways to make them easier for customers to use, and make sure they work as advertised.
Unlike Basile, I am no legend in my own mind, nor do I try and convince others how awesome my shit is when no one wants the damn thing. But I know overengineering when I see it...
If you examine the patent and look at the drawings I submitted you will see that there is a simpler version of the machine. I never built it because I wan'ted independent movements.
The key to the design is to have a pulley at the elbow joint. It is possible to have a large pulley for the supination that doubles as a cam for the curling movement.
https://www.google.com/patents/US5413546
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Honestly i respect your drive to create "something". it seems that you made this device in your first few years into your retirement. meaning you had alot of time to fuck around and build something. Im not trying to be mean im saying keep inventing stuff but dont invent another exercise machine, its a waste of time , its not constructive at all, Any child can think of a way to torcher a muscle from every single angle possible and so what is the end result. well there you are , thats the result im sure youve done it all and so has the rest, time to give it up on the idea of the magic exercise time to move towards more enlightening creations
I would have given you more credit for being intelligent that what you have revealed in this thread. Why be so judgemental when you have probably never invented anything in your life? Unbelievable the way some of you guys are.
I don't take kindly to being disrespected on the internet you know......
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If you examine the patent and look at the drawings I submitted you will see that there is a simpler version of the machine. I never built it because I wan'ted independent movements.
The key to the design is to have a pulley at the elbow joint. It is possible to have a large pulley for the supination that doubles as a cam for the curling movement.
https://www.google.com/patents/US5413546
I saw that.
you can also do a hammer strength version and build it for $500 bucks
best practice with these projects is to validate commercial demand up front.
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I would have given you more credit for being intelligent that what you have revealed in this thread. Why be so judgemental when you have probably never invented anything in your life? Unbelievable the way some of you guys are.
I don't take kindly to being disrespected on the internet you know......
credit from you? a man who built a bicep machine from bicycle parts? i dont need your credit, people are trying to help you, ill be the first to tell you that you need to lay off the heme-iron. for some reason you dietary choice influences your brain in letting you beleive you made some grand acheivement by using spare kids bicycle parts for a bicep curl machine, your an ass dude i was being nice lol and am still nice to you, you dont realize it but im just being critical as a bro would be critical of another bro, its nothing personal
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impressive amount of thought and effort and careful work went into this device!
I'm pretty sure I know how to build a hammer curl supinator tho!
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impressive amount of thought and effort and careful work went into this device!
I'm pretty sure I know how to build a hammer curl supinator tho!
Good luck with your version. I would have thought the lads here would have been interested in how the machine worked, etc. Instead, most seem determined to put me down.
Bodybuilders have set beliefs and preferences and don't change no matter what. If I install a new piece of gym equipment in my gym the muscleheads seldom use it. The novices do.
The bodybuilders believe free weights are superior so they are hardly going to abandon those cherished beliefs.
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vince back to the future machine ----- swiiiiiish!
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Good luck with your version. I would have thought the lads here would have been interested in how the machine worked, etc. Instead, most seem determined to put me down.
the pulley version should be developed with the grips incorporating an offset cam lever
that would be the arthur jones machine I gather??
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the pulley version should be developed with the grips incorporating an offset cam lever
that would be the arthur jones machine I gather??
Nautilus never built a biceps-supinator machine. If you incorporate an 'offset cam lever' on the supination you will be making it more complex than the one I built.
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vince applied for a patent
for his unique dbol transportation system
but apparently you cant patent your wives anus
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vince applied for a patent
for his unique dbol transportation system
but apparently you cant patent your wives anus
What a disgusting and primitive individual you are. You obviously believe that fool Goodrum. He is a woman in men's clothes and makes up lies to discredit his tormentors.
By the way, you are also an internet stalker. Hope this helps.
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Nautilus never built a biceps-supinator machine. If you incorporate an 'offset cam lever' on the supination you will be making it more complex than the one I built.
imagine a kind of scissoring action.
don't try to make this work
(some disinformation included) :D
(http://s16.postimg.org/8jnebo5dx/IMG_20140626_050834.jpg)
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Good luck with your version. I would have thought the lads here would have been interested in how the machine worked, etc. Instead, most seem determined to put me down.
Bodybuilders have set beliefs and preferences and don't change no matter what. If I install a new piece of gym equipment in my gym the muscleheads seldom use it. The novices do.
The bodybuilders believe free weights are superior so they are hardly going to abandon those cherished beliefs.
everything works, taking a shit works, pushing a tire down the road works. your machine is stupid and worthless wake up and smell the shit
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everything works, taking a shit works, pushing a tire down the road works. your machine is stupid and worthless wake up and smell the shit
X2. Just lift something.
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everything works, taking a shit works, pushing a tire down the road works. your machine is stupid and worthless wake up and smell the shit
x3.
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everything works, taking a shit works, pushing a tire down the road works. your machine is stupid and worthless wake up and smell the shit
Spoken like a true Getbig philosopher. ::)
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imagine a kind of scissoring action.
don't try to make this work
(some disinformation included) :D
(http://s16.postimg.org/8jnebo5dx/IMG_20140626_050834.jpg)
You can't have two pivot points for the curl motion.
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Wtf, is wrong with you guys? Who else on Getbig has patented anything? I made something that has never been made before. I am not claiming anything except that I built an original machine.
I didn't use old bicycle parts. I had to fashion all the parts of this machine. I applied for a patent in 1991 but didn't get around to building it until 2001. I literally didn't think I could do it.
I just got to work and made it work. It has seen several modifications since and is still being fine tuned.
When I set out to build this machine I had hopes that every gym would want one. That hasn't happened. I approached Cybex and Nautilus but they weren't interested. I have no desire
to build any more to sell. I am not that impressed with doing business with gym owners. Neither was Arthur Jones.
It is a fact that I have built some of the best gym equipment in the world. Come to my gym and see for yourself. I have lots of original equipment from benches to machines.
ok I'm convinced you lost it and senility had come full swing. How exactly have you measured it out to be a FACT that you have and I quote you to "have built some of the best gym equipment in the world." Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen your name plastered on the equipment of any gyms that actually matter.
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ok I'm convinced you lost it and senility had come full swing. How exactly have you measured it out to be a FACT that you have and I quote you to "have built some of the best gym equipment in the world." Correct me if I'm wrong but I haven't seen your name plastered on the equipment of any gyms that actually matter.
That doesn't refute my statement. My members tell me all the time how good the equipment is. In 1991 I attended the IRSA convention in San Francisco. You should have seen the equipment on display. Well, I returned to Australia determined to build a machine that was better than anything I had seen there. I designed and built a Hack Squat machine. It is simply the best such machine in any gym that I am aware of. This is just one of many original machines I have built. I use quality components, too, such as plenty of stainless steel, linear bearings, large pulleys, etc. The Hack Machine below is also a sliding calf machine.
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Here is the calf function being demonstrated in my gym.
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That doesn't refute my statement. My members tell me all the time how good the equipment is. In 1991 I attended the IRSA convention in San Francisco. You should have seen the equipment on display. Well, I returned to Australia determined to build a machine that was better than anything I had seen there. I designed and built a Hack Squat machine. It is simply the best such machine in any gym that I am aware of. This is just one of many original machines I have built. I use quality components, too, such as plenty of stainless steel, linear bearings, large pulleys, etc. The Hack Machine below is also a sliding calf machine.
look I'm not going to bust what's left of your balls. In fact if those are in fact machines you have built I'll say they look like some damn great pieces of equipment. I just simply want to know what valid way are u using to compare your claims that your machines are the best in the world because that's a mighty HIGH claim to back without verifiable evidence.
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vince basille is like the plumber who just fixed a few pipes acting like its the most advanced acheivement ever, dudes ego is incomprehensible it will ultimatley help him live to be 170 years old
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You can't have two pivot points for the curl motion.
you can avoid it if you're willing to exclude *hand grips*
edit: if you turn the diagram 90deg that fixes it too
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next time you invent a machine try this method vince
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(http://doyoueven.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/ct-fletcher-no-shirt.jpg)
This fella has a unique perspective about arm training. Google his youtube videos.
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That doesn't refute my statement. My members tell me all the time how good the equipment is. In 1991 I attended the IRSA convention in San Francisco. You should have seen the equipment on display. Well, I returned to Australia determined to build a machine that was better than anything I had seen there. I designed and built a Hack Squat machine. It is simply the best such machine in any gym that I am aware of. This is just one of many original machines I have built. I use quality components, too, such as plenty of stainless steel, linear bearings, large pulleys, etc. The Hack Machine below is also a sliding calf machine.
to be fair those do look like decent machines vince. durable looking, and well made