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Title: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: BOW on July 17, 2014, 06:02:21 AM
I had to go the er the other day for the first time in my life, so as anyone knows standard procedure at a hospital is to draw labs do basic blood work. Well prior to my er visit I had been a month on a t3/t4, 50/100mcg per capsule combo from a very popular research site. Been popping 2 pills a day and haven't noticed shit. Looks like my lab work shows that besides the fact that my thyroid is actually fucked and I'll actually probably need to be on t4 anyways, at those doses my labs should have been sky high. Can't trust these guys your buying sugar pills. Stay careful bros.
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Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Twaddle on July 17, 2014, 06:53:52 AM
Ouch!!!  Epic dose of reality here.  Buy unknown gear, from random websites, and fuck up your health, for life. 

How old are you, what made you visit the ER, and what are your symptoms.  Hopefully, your doctor can get you on T4 therapy and your thyroid gland will recover.  Make sure you're completely honest with the doc about what you were taking.  This could be critical in making a full recovery.   :-\
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Shockwave on July 17, 2014, 07:04:35 AM
I had to go the er the other day for the first time in my life, so as anyone knows standard procedure at a hospital is to draw labs do basic blood work. Well prior to my er visit I had been a month on a t3/t4, 50/100mcg per capsule combo from a very popular research site. Been popping 2 pills a day and haven't noticed shit. Looks like my lab work shows that besides the fact that my thyroid is actually fucked and I'll actually probably need to be on t4 anyways, at those doses my labs should have been sky high. Can't trust these guys your buying sugar pills. Stay careful bros.
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What company?
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 17, 2014, 07:24:59 AM
please tell us is selling the bunk.  I never understood these research chem places.  Selling liquid forms of shit.  Doesn't make sense why anyone would take it. 
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Shockwave on July 17, 2014, 07:57:01 AM
please tell us is selling the bunk.  I never understood these research chem places.  Selling liquid forms of shit.  Doesn't make sense why anyone would take it. 
Im using liquid t3 and adex from a site, its working exactly the same as the pharmaceutical t3 and UG adex pilss ive used.

Depends on the company.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: BOW on July 17, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
I bought my pills from mjr
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: mazrim on July 17, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
From what I've read they aren't the most reliable so really it does depend on who you get it from.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 17, 2014, 09:37:37 PM
I bought my pills from mjr

isn't MJR the only company that does tabs/caps?

I think I remember seeing their site and thinking it looked a lot like what ManPowerResearch looked like... it was ManPower's t4 (was actually t3) that put me in the hospital for 3 days with Thyrotoxic periodic paralysis.

anybody know what happened to the owner of ManpowerResearch? if he was sentenced or got probation? on parole already, maybe, and set up shop again?
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Mobil on July 17, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
manpowers viagra was kick ass.. heard he got popped at now sells fake sh!t
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 17, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
manpowers viagra was kick ass.. heard he got popped at now sells fake sh!t

sells fake shit?

when his Viagra was in red caps, I never had anybody complain about it... but after it switched to yellow caps, I'd be doing refunds at least once a week.

in fact, I don't think ANY of his yellow cap stuff was legit.

far as I know he's been out of business for a long long time, since his bust. (bust for Identity theft/check fraud/credit card fraud)
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: SF1900 on July 17, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
You have a very attractive looking thumb and cuticle.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: TEMPER on July 17, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
sells fake shit?

when his Viagra was in red caps, I never had anybody complain about it... but after it switched to yellow caps, I'd be doing refunds at least once a week.

in fact, I don't think ANY of his yellow cap stuff was legit.

far as I know he's been out of business for a long long time, since his bust. (bust for Identity theft/check fraud/credit card fraud)

Lol you were buying retail caps and marking them up / reselling them? No bulk raws? You "bottle up 3 gallons of Methyltrienolone" but can't get fucking Viagra?

You're either a small time chump. Or a fucking pathological liar.



Yes me, I know what happened to the owner. I know a powerlifter that was sponsored by MPResearchsupply and talked in depth about the situation when he got popped.
Still around: http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 17, 2014, 11:55:21 PM
Lol you were buying retail caps and marking them up / reselling them? No bulk raws? You "bottle up 3 gallons of Methyltrienolone" but can't get fucking Viagra?

You're either a small time chump. Or a fucking pathological liar.



Yes me, I know what happened to the owner. I know a powerlifter that was sponsored by MPResearchsupply and talked in depth about the situation when he got popped.
Still around: http://www.mpresearchsupply.com/store/

listen kid, you can take your little punk ass back to bbing.com and run your Jersey Shore wannabe mouth over there... unless you wanna put your money where your mouth is and tell me where you are.

and i didn't have a large market for AUX stuff, and i had a deal with MP, as i have deals with many research shops, so instead of doing my own Viagra, Cialis, tamox, adex, asin, t3/t4, caber, prami, clomid,etc..., i moved their stuff instead. in exchange, i get free pep's.

fuck, you're an idiot.

feel free to PM me your info, if you ever decide to put down your purse and stop pissing sitting down.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2014, 12:16:33 AM
listen kid, you can take your little punk ass back to bbing.com and run your Jersey Shore wannabe mouth over there... unless you wanna put your money where your mouth is and tell me where you are.

and i didn't have a large market for AUX stuff, and i had a deal with MP, as i have deals with many research shops, so instead of doing my own Viagra, Cialis, tamox, adex, asin, t3/t4, caber, prami, clomid,etc..., i moved their stuff instead. in exchange, i get free pep's.

fuck, you're an idiot.

feel free to PM me your info, if you ever decide to put down your purse and stop pissing sitting down.

Did you act like this when you were giving your lectures on Buddism in prison?

You really are atotal idiot, I was contemplating leaving you alone and ignoring you but jeez you do make it hard.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: TEMPER on July 18, 2014, 12:17:18 AM
listen kid, you can take your little punk ass back to bbing.com and run your Jersey Shore wannabe mouth over there... unless you wanna put your money where your mouth is and tell me where you are.

and i didn't have a large market for AUX stuff, and i had a deal with MP, as i have deals with many research shops, so instead of doing my own Viagra, Cialis, tamox, adex, asin, t3/t4, caber, prami, clomid,etc..., i moved their stuff instead. in exchange, i get free pep's.

fuck, you're an idiot.

feel free to PM me your info, if you ever decide to put down your purse and stop pissing sitting down.

But when you were ordering your 3 gallons worth of Methyltrienolone you could have simply placed a small order for a few hundred grams of Viagra right?




LOL this white trash scumbag / small time personal trainer wants to fucking fist fight in real life...BWAHAHAHAHAH what a fucking moron. It may be hard for you to wrap your trailer trash mind around the fact that people have things besides "Getbig" in their lives. The thought of literally fist fighting someone over trolling FOR FUN on a forum boggles my mind... Rofl seriously get a life man, it's sad.

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Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
Did you act like this when you were giving your lectures on Buddism in prison?

You really are atotal idiot, I was contemplating leaving you alone and ignoring you but jeez you do make it hard.

ahh.. "giving lectures" now, eh? you realize what a 'study group' is?
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2014, 01:08:08 AM
But when you were ordering your 3 gallons worth of Methyltrienolone you could have simply placed a small order for a few hundred grams of Viagra right?




LOL this white trash scumbag / small time personal trainer wants to fucking fist fight in real life...BWAHAHAHAHAH what a fucking moron. It may be hard for you to wrap your trailer trash mind around the fact that people have things besides "Getbig" in their lives. The thought of literally fist fighting someone over trolling FOR FUN on a forum boggles my mind... Rofl seriously get a life man, it's sad.

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I see you use the word "trailor trash" a lot... leads me to believe trailor parks are something you grew up in and around. sorry kid, I can't relate.

and 'trolling for fun' on the internet? that's what "tough guy" kids who grew up 'in the streets of Detroit" and who "studied UFC" do for fun? running your mouths to guys who don't fuck around like little kids? if you think getting raped in prison is your biggest fear, you better hope you never go to prison, because when you run your mouth like that, you'll get your head kicked around like a soccer ball. fucking punk kid.

and 'fight'? lol... ok buddy.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2014, 01:11:57 AM
ahh.. "giving lectures" now, eh? you realize what a 'study group' is?

Quote
study group
noun
a group of people who meet to study a particular subject and then report their findings or recommendations.

Now lets see

I remember reading the book in prison and thinking "shit, this is all daoist/buddhist philosophy" (I ran a Buddhist study group).. obviously stuff I didn't catch when I first watched the movie years prior.

So, now what did the word "ran" mean, did you lead the group, or did you just participate?
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2014, 01:19:05 AM

Now lets see

So, now what did the word "ran" mean, did you lead the group, or did you just participate?

I coordinated bringing in speakers, acquiring reading materials/books, etc...

keep trolling.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2014, 01:24:19 AM
I coordinated bringing in speakers, acquiring reading materials/books, etc...

keep trolling.

So to do what you did needs absolutly no knowledge of the theory or practice of Buddism.

That explains why you are further away from a Buddist than Ted Bundy.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
So to do what you did needs absolutly no knowledge of the theory or practice of Buddism.

That explains why you are further away from a Buddist than Ted Bundy.

if you want to troll religious debates, feel free to start one on the religion board.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2014, 01:28:07 AM
if you want to troll religious debates, feel free to start one on the religion board.
You seem to be missing the point, let me simplify it for you.

When was the last time a Buddist held up a store and got involved in an armed standoff with police?
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: visualizeperfection on July 18, 2014, 01:40:53 AM
You seem to be missing the point, let me simplify it for you.

When was the last time a Buddist held up a store and got involved in an armed standoff with police?

aug 6, 2012


or so.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: TEMPER on July 18, 2014, 02:46:51 AM
I see you use the word "trailor trash" a lot... leads me to believe trailor parks are something you grew up in and around. sorry kid, I can't relate.

and 'trolling for fun' on the internet? that's what "tough guy" kids who grew up 'in the streets of Detroit" and who "studied UFC" do for fun? running your mouths to guys who don't fuck around like little kids? if you think getting raped in prison is your biggest fear, you better hope you never go to prison, because when you run your mouth like that, you'll get your head kicked around like a soccer ball. fucking punk kid.

and 'fight'? lol... ok buddy.

Is it really that hard to believe that someone studied the methods used to cut weight by world renowned coaches like Mike Dolce etc.?

Yes...I study and read about MMA weight cutting techniques, they are notoriously brutal and guys have been known to cut from 200 lbs to 155 lbs for fights. It's actually very fascinating and interesting.  I have made weight cuts for power lifting meets as well as wrestling meets when I was wrestling in high school, and I can tell you 20 lbs in 24 hours is brutal, I cannot imagine 50 in 2 weeks for example.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Twaddle on July 18, 2014, 06:37:22 AM
But when you were ordering your 3 gallons worth of Methyltrienolone you could have simply placed a small order for a few hundred grams of Viagra right?




LOL this white trash scumbag / small time personal trainer wants to fucking fist fight in real life...BWAHAHAHAHAH what a fucking moron. It may be hard for you to wrap your trailer trash mind around the fact that people have things besides "Getbig" in their lives. The thought of literally fist fighting someone over trolling FOR FUN on a forum boggles my mind... Rofl seriously get a life man, it's sad.

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Fixed.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 18, 2014, 06:42:44 AM
and I can tell you 20 lbs in 24 hours is brutal, I cannot imagine 50 in 2 weeks for example.

Wtf nobody cuts 50lbs in 2 weeks.... even cutting 20-25 lbs down is considered extreme, but double that??
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2014, 06:51:32 AM
Wtf nobody cuts 50lbs in 2 weeks.... even cutting 20-25 lbs down is considered extreme, but double that??
Sev claims Borat can carb up and gain 40lbs in less time than that, sure he could lose it by carb depleting.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 18, 2014, 08:09:35 AM
Sev claims Borat can carb up and gain 40lbs in less time than that, sure he could lose it by carb depleting.

So it CAN be done.....
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 18, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
Being a gym owner is a difficult profession. You have long hours, huge expenses and hardly any return. I have had bodybuilders ask about steroids in the past. They wanted to know my opinion. I sent some to a sports doctor. It became clear later that almost every person who asked about steroids were already using them and were just asking to get some feedback about them. I know almost nothing about these substances. I doubt anyone else does, either. There are lots of beliefs out there but very little of what I would call knowledge. So it is no surprize that professional bodybuilders would be considered experts re steroids and other substances used in bodybuilding. If some people want to pay for this information then it is probably better than listening to guys who sell stuff on the black market. I have seen young kids get gynocomastia from listening to dopes. It really is pathetic and sad. Then the various governments made these chemicals illegal and all of a sudden people were breaking the law. I have no idea where anyone gets these drugs but where there is a demand there will be a supply. I have always believed that there is an insider group that shares information about drugs and the wider bodybuilding community knows nothing about it. Over the years I have had to guard against people selling steroids to members. Even when you are vigilant some will penetrate the gym and sell to those who are users. Oh, we all think we know who is using but I don't ask because I don't want to know. That is a decision that each bodybuilder has to make. I do know that a few of my really big guys are natural and resent anyone saying they take drugs. It seems if you get big enough people will accuse you of taking drugs.

So I can only imagine what I would do if anyone said I provided drugs to anyone in my gym or elsewhere. I have intergrity but you know it can be damaging when some make false statements. Some of the mud might stick and real damage can be done. On this board we find a professional making statements about another professional. How on earth is anyone supposed to know what the facts are? One person is saying he is innocent of all charges and is going out of his way to state facts about statements, people, etc. That is what an innocent person would do. It is also what a clever person might do. There is no way to establish if anyone is telling the complete truth. What is clear is that statements can cause damage to the reputations and character of others. I think it is not wise to make personal statements about other people online. I admire the candidness of Milos. Shawn, too, is fearless. We have a stalemate here but as it stands Shawn has to demonstate his charges or apologize to Milos for past trespasses. Shawn does not deny doing what Milos states he did. I suppose Shawn has a position, too, but knows it is foolish to use the internet to do that sort of thing.

In the meantime what is any reader to believe? I suppose that depends on who you know. It takes a very brave person to challenge someone else to state what he knows that the other was supposed to have done. Only a very confident person could do that. Let us hope that this confidence is based on integrity and honesty. I think without any evidence to the contrary that we should accept that Milos is telling the truth. It is one thing to believe things and quite another to have specific evidence of wrongdoing.  

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When I stayed at Ray Mentzer's place in 1991 (he owed me since he and Kathy stayed at my place in Sydney for at least 3 months a few years previously) he drove me to a few places. It took me two days to figure out I needed my own car. Ray spoke to the guy at the desk at Gold's Venice and I got a free membership card for my two week stay in LA. I remember when I first came to Gold's in 1968 in October that Joe let me train for free then, too. All he wanted to know was how long I would be there. I offered to do chores around the gym but he said it was okay.

The next year, 1969, I got married to Roz and guess where I wanted to go for my honeymoon? LA! I went to train at Golds and Joe took Roz to the Beach while I trained. I remember watching Joe play beach volleyball and since I loved most sports asked if I could join in. Nope, they had their group and that was that. While I was there I heard from Seymour Koenig that Joe wanted to sell the gym for $50,000. I was interested and joked with Joe that I would buy it if he financed me. Ah, what a bargain that would have been. However, I was no entrepreneur so who knows what would have happened to that name. I would have let Joe have the name back if he wanted to buy his gym back.

Anyway I visited Golds in 1980 but without Joe there it didn't seem like the same place. The next visit was in 1991.  I saw big Paul Dillette and thought he was a giant. He weighed about 290 then and had the widest shoulders I have ever seen. I think everyone felt he didn't have to pose and should have been Mr Olympia anyway. I introduced myself and was surprised to find out he was from Canada. I got him to pose for a few photos outside and I have one with the two of us in it. I wanted to post it with the caption, "Guess which one won Mr Canada?" Paul was disqualified in the Mr Canada but in my day there were no tests of any kind. Several days later I introduced Ray to Paul. Ray tells it like it is and declared that Paul's physique was ugly. I guess it was all those veins. Paul dwarfed Ray and Ray weighed about 260 then. Ray said I knew more people there than he did and I had been there for only 2 weeks while he had been there for 10 years. He introduced me to big Lou but I wasn't charged anything to shake his hand!. I saw Lou in 2000 and asked where Ray was. He said he hasn't seen him since the last time we met. I told him he still looked good and that made him smile.

While I was there in 91 I noticed this big muscular woman who had arms almost as big as mine. She really impressed me and I thought she either thought I was some ugly ass or she was a bit interested in me. I love the way those LA women aren't afraid of eye contact. Anyway, I noticed her several times during my daily visits to the gym. I thought to myself that I had better not approach her because for all I knew she might be a bloke! When you have been around beaches as long as I have you tend to be a bit more cautious. On my last day at the gym I showed a few people the photos I took of Paul. Achem Albrecht sp? was there training and also weighing about 290 pounds. So I walk up to Achem and show him my photos. The superlady is nearby so I say, "Hey, they say you gals look like fellas but this is what real men look like." She came over to have a look and introduced herself. I cursed myself because I knew her from the magazines. She had dark hair now and used to be a blond. I think she moved from there but she had a business giving nutrition advice.
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Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: TEMPER on July 18, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
Wtf nobody cuts 50lbs in 2 weeks.... even cutting 20-25 lbs down is considered extreme, but double that??

Yep Mike Dolce talks about it in an interview, I believe it was on the "London Real" youtube podcast video. The guy's name who made the cut escapes me at the moment.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Shockwave on July 18, 2014, 11:34:44 AM
Yep Mike Dolce talks about it in an interview, I believe it was on the "London Real" youtube podcast video. The guy's name who made the cut escapes me at the moment.
Why? That seems fucking retarded.. it's one thing to walk around heavy and cut 5-10lbs before a fight, why the fuck sit 50lbs over your fight weight? Stupid, stupid, stupid ass.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: BOW on July 18, 2014, 02:11:04 PM
You have a very attractive looking thumb and cuticle.
thank you :-* I'll refer you to my manicurist Melvin Anthony. He does a fantastic job.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: BOW on July 18, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
isn't MJR the only company that does tabs/caps?

I think I remember seeing their site and thinking it looked a lot like what ManPowerResearch looked like... it was ManPower's t4 (was actually t3) that put me in the hospital for 3 days with Thyrotoxic periodic paralysis.

anybody know what happened to the owner of ManpowerResearch? if he was sentenced or got probation? on parole already, maybe, and set up shop again?
it's the same company I've been sure of that from the get go. But as I've said finding I'm hypothyroid is great and explains A lot why I'm having a hard time cutting and putting on mass. So imagine my face when I was expecting the Dr to come ask why the hell my hormones are so high, when in fact it's the opposite.
Title: Re: and this is why you should stay away from shitty research chems
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 18, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
Why is there a pic of a black man's thumb holding your labs? ???