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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: old-school-lifter on August 06, 2014, 09:00:52 PM
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8 weeks out
http://www.flexonline.com/training/chest/big-ramy-training-chest-150lb-dumbbells
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strong as fuck, ronnie was using how much?
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Legit kigs. ;D
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Didn't even drop/throw them on the ground like a moron (a.k.a.Branch Warren) after he finished his set. Respect !
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strong as fuck, ronnie was using how much?
200 on inclines, which is more difficult than flat
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I wonder if he can move 4 plates on the Hammer Strength machine.
That's 4 on EACH SIDE.
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sure he aint no Ronnie but who will ever be?
but he's better than Phil
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I wonder if he can move 4 plates on the Hammer Strength machine.
That's 4 on EACH SIDE.
Phil Heath can because hes a beast.
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200 on inclines, which is more difficult than flat
Ronnies fucking huge there. He would wipe the floor with Ramy any day if we're playing the mass game.
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8 weeks out
http://www.flexonline.com/training/chest/big-ramy-training-chest-150lb-dumbbells
That was impressive. Damn
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Didn't even drop/throw them on the ground like a moron (a.k.a.Branch Warren) after he finished his set. Respect !
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That was impressive. Damn
And even more so at eight weeks out!
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I wonder if he can move 4 plates on the Hammer Strength machine.
That's 4 on EACH SIDE.
Lolololol. Phil is not impressed.
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What a beast, dude just rolls up and stands up with them like a boss, no obnoxious noises. ...
Watching him walk around carrying those things us comical for some reason.
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Most impressive part is him fetching and racking his own weights in the same set. I thought I was the only one who did that but then again I am much larger than the average man.
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Most impressive part is him fetching and racking his own weights in the same set. I thought I was the only one who did that but then again I am much larger than the average man.
I also do that every set I think I'm OCD or something, I have to put the weights back in the rack while i rest
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I also do that every set I think I'm OCD or something, I have to put the weights back in the rack while i rest
It's the sign of a distinguished gentleman/athlete
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200 on inclines, which is more difficult than flat
This.
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do he think the chest muscle will increase in size 8 weeks out by lifting like this? where is the scientific support of that
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If you look closely at the adjustable bench, you can see that Ramy has it inclined slightly. Perhaps a 15-20 degree incline.
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do he think the chest muscle will increase in size 8 weeks out by lifting like this? where is the scientific support of that
The thinking is based on maintaining as much muscle as possible and minimize muscle loss, not making the muscle bigger. He easily handles that weight, from unracking them, walking with them and then swinging them back down after his set and then walking back and re-racking them. This was well within what he can maximally lift.
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It's the sign of a distinguished gentleman/athlete
I shower between sets
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Big dude, all the way big dude. Ramy needs the 200's. He may be close to Ronnie in pressing strength.
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I watch clowns at the gym dropping 60's after a set of flat. Impressive to see him handle the 150's like that.
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And I thought I was strong doing 120s x 12.
Those 150s are big as hell and they look small when he is carrying them. Also, no one should ever forget Ronnie repping the 200s.
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I watch clowns at the gym dropping 60's after a set of flat. Impressive to see him handle the 150's like that.
I'm sure you do watch men at the gym.
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Boatloads of androgens work wonders.
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I also do that every set I think I'm OCD or something, I have to put the weights back in the rack while i rest
I freak out when people put the wrong weights on the wrong bull bars. People putting 5kg discs on middle bars (for 10/15/20kg) or even worse putting small weights in between bigger ones (10kg inside 25kg on bottom bar). Is it that hard to figure out small ones on top big ones on bottom?
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I'm sure you do watch men at the gym.
Only the tiny twinks stud.
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I shower between sets
Yes, well ill one up you and inform you that i bend my wife over the rack and proceed to mount her from rear whilst resting between sets.
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I receive golden showers between sets
:o
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Boatloads of androgens work wonders.
And don't forget the pork rinds! The secret of Mighty Muslim Men of Muscle is Pork Rinds!
Ramy? What a maroon. All drugs.
And pork rinds. ;D
And for the sycophants I am well aware that at nearly all levels of bodybuilding it is all about the drugs and one's individual response to them as well as the ability not to die from Conehead quantities. Doesn't make it any less laughable. ;D
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And don't forget the pork rinds! The secret of Mighty Muslim Men of Muscle is Pork Rinds!
Ramy? What a maroon. All drugs.
And pork rinds. ;D
And for the sycophants I am well aware that at nearly all levels of bodybuilding it is all about the drugs and one's individual response to them as well as the ability not to die from Conehead quantities. Doesn't make it any less laughable. ;D
Are you not bored with this endless diatribe? Endlessly repeating the same lines must get wearisome for you.
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i dont see 150 pounds a big deal for some one who is full of drugs and very huge like ramy!!..
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Are you not bored with this endless diatribe? Endlessly repeating the same lines must get wearisome for you.
Honestly Bob, everything on here is pretty much deja vu all over again. However I applaud you for being far more discerning in your reply than most!
But that changes the truth of neither your message to me nor my reply. Both have merit because they are grounded in legitimacy.
Be well.
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i dont see 150 pounds a big deal for some one who is full of drugs and very huge like ramy!!..
It was the textbook form, good ROM, high reps and his awareness that others were in the gym (not screaming, throwing weights, leaving shit lying everywhere) that marks it out versus others who lift such weights.
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It was the textbook form, good ROM, high reps and his awareness that others were in the gym (not screaming, throwing weights, leaving shit lying everywhere) that marks it out versus others who lift such weights.
yes ramy seems humble and nice.. i hope he has learnt some english.. he needs this more than anything else imo..
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yes ramy seems humble and nice.. i hope he has learnt some english.. he needs this more than anything else imo..
True, hopefully he doesn't get robbed at the O again this year.
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I got Ramy in 6th place at the O.
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Ramys ready for battle that's for sure
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'Strong as he looks huge.' Somewhere, an English teacher is quietly crying.
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It was the textbook form, good ROM, high reps and his awareness that others were in the gym (not screaming, throwing weights, leaving shit lying everywhere) that marks it out versus others who lift such weights.
This right here. He actually has a pretty good angle on the bench, between flat and incline. Doesn't act like an ass clown like our favorite goblin. I wish Ramy spoke good english. He seems really likeable.
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It's the sign of a distinguished gentleman/athlete
No its the sign of a brainwashed pussy, a hardcore bodybuilder grunts screams and drops the weights he does not waste strength carry the weights back and forth like an idiot.
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'Strong as he looks huge.' Somewhere, an English teacher is quietly crying.
;D
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It was the textbook form, good ROM, high reps and his awareness that others were in the gym (not screaming, throwing weights, leaving shit lying everywhere) that marks it out versus others who lift such weights.
And almost anyone in this forum could do it too. Any moron can learn how to workout. Eating is not hard either.
The most important factors that make a bodybuilding champion are:
1. You have access to an endless supply of drugs... real drugs.
2. You take boatloads of these drugs and never go off, and...
3. You have very little regard for your own health.
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And almost anyone in this forum could do it too. Any moron can learn how to workout. Eating is not hard either.
The most important factors that make a bodybuilding champion are:
1. You have access to an endless supply of drugs... real drugs.
2. You take boatloads of these drugs and never go off, and...
3. You have very little regard for your own health.
I agree with you to some extent, however, your leaving out genetics. I have seen guys with 1-3 in place and still look like shit.
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I agree with you to some extent, however, your leaving out genetics. I have seen guys with 1-3 in place and still look like shit.
Maybe, but I would argue this is largely semantics.
Did you ever see Dorian's and Wheeler's before picture? ;D
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Ramy will crack top 6
maybe even top 4
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Maybe, but I would argue this is largely semantics.
Did you ever see Dorian's and Wheeler's before picture? ;D
Yes and they responded amazingly well to gear when they started slamming it..not everyone does. You must know guys who have pounded it and just look like bloated messes..like quite a few pros. ;D
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'Strong as he looks huge.' Somewhere, an English teacher is quietly crying.
Or laughing while crying. Or crying and laughing at the same time. Or any variation of the two.
As far as Ramy...one day there will be a bodybuilder that will get the Ronnie Coleman nod of approval, and it's not Ramy.
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Most impressive part is him fetching and racking his own weights in the same set. I thought I was the only one who did that but then again I am much larger than the average man.
Not hard with 10 pound dumbells.
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No wonder that he is this strong. but I think Big Ron is stronger.
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No wonder that he is this strong. but I think Big Ron is stronger.
Of corse Ron was stronger and bigger in his prime.
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Big freaky ron inclining pressing 200 pound dumbbells, this is after he did them on the flat bench.
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200 on inclines, which is more difficult than flat
Ramy uses a greater range of motion, that makes a big difference.
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Lets wait until Ramy wins some Mr O titles before we put him up there with Ronnie C.
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do he think the chest muscle will increase in size 8 weeks out by lifting like this? where is the scientific support of that
Is this a serious question?? Yeh man - he is busting his ass just hoping to add some beef before the contest that's it. In fact he will probably do some silly shit like being back stage and still lifting weight right before he comes on stage. Lol
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Ramy uses a greater range of motion, that makes a big difference.
I find partial ROM pumping reps to be much harder than full chest-to-lockout style reps. Its harder I feel because youre spending more time under tension where it puts maximum strain on the muscle....
Think about it, when using a complete ROM youre spending time in lockout and with your elbows at 90* where you have the greatest leverage force... when pumping in between youre generally working where you have the least mechanical advantage.
Now Im not advocating for partials over full ROM or anything... but its been my experience that I fatigue much faster and can use much less weight when I try and do partial pumping reps.
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
Let's see a pic stud.
I use full ROM on everything
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
It cracks me up more when people assume pros are the most knowledgable. Most just do what theyre told by coaches actually educated in the field. People need to realize that the majority of pros are genetically gifted and could grow on anything. That doesn't make it right
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200 on inclines, which is more difficult than flat
Disagree, I find inclines easier than flat personally.
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It cracks me up more when people assume pros are the most knowledgable. Most just do what theyre told by coaches actually educated in the field. People need to realize that the majority of pros are genetically gifted and could grow on anything. That doesn't make it right
That depends on the pro.
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That depends on the pro.
That's why I said most and not all. Generally they fall into 2 categories, those with elite genetics that wiped out their first contest without all the proper tools and then went onto get the right guidance. And those who don't have the best genes and have to do everything meticulously and had to go through much trial and error for their card
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
Spot on, "full range of motion" takes more tension away from the muscle than say 3/4 partials without lockout on the top or bottom..feel is more important than any text book form definitions
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No wonder that he is this strong. but I think Big Ron is stronger.
Of corse Ron was stronger and bigger in his prime.
But look how long Ramy has been doing this - that's the impressive and whole freak factor part.
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That's why I said most and not all. Generally they fall into 2 categories, those with elite genetics that wiped out their first contest without all the proper tools and then went onto get the right guidance. And those who don't have the best genes and have to do everything meticulously and had to go through much trial and error for their card
Eg 1 Ronnie
Eg 2 Dorian
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Eg 1 Ronnie
Eg 2 Dorian
But Ronnie didn't wipe out the competition his first show. While Kevin Levrone won the Nationals and Mike Matarazzo won the USA, Ronnie won his pro card in relative obscurity at the Universe.
Dorian qualified for the Olympia by winning Night of Champions. Ronnie made the Olympia automatically, based on his weight-class win at the Universe.
When Dorian debuted at the Olympia, he placed 2nd. When Ronnie made his debut, he placed "16th".
It took Ronnie a while to become the beast he ended up being.
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I find partial ROM pumping reps to be much harder than full chest-to-lockout style reps. Its harder I feel because youre spending more time under tension where it puts maximum strain on the muscle....
Think about it, when using a complete ROM youre spending time in lockout and with your elbows at 90* where you have the greatest leverage force... when pumping in between youre generally working where you have the least mechanical advantage.
Now Im not advocating for partials over full ROM or anything... but its been my experience that I fatigue much faster and can use much less weight when I try and do partial pumping reps.
Good food for thought, thanks.
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But Ronnie didn't wipe out the competition his first show. While Kevin Levrone won the Nationals and Mike Matarazzo won the USA, Ronnie won his pro card in relative obscurity at the Universe.
Dorian qualified for the Olympia by winning Night of Champions. Ronnie made the Olympia automatically, based on his weight-class win at the Universe.
When Dorian debuted at the Olympia, he placed 2nd. When Ronnie made his debut, he placed "16th".
It took Ronnie a while to become the beast he ended up being.
Dude. You went far too trivia off into lala land
Point was
Dorian did it all himself and didnt quite have all the genetic gifts and he succeeded through insane OCD attention to detail and discipline
And Ronnie had Chad to the plan for him and he let his coach, his hard work, and his genetic gifts carry him to legend. I dont think anyone would argue that Ronnie was more disciplined, educated, or driven (with regards to BB) than Dorian was.
Dorian = obsessive work ethic and drive to know/understand/accomplish his BB goals
Ronnie = genetically blessed but needed someone to tell him what to do in order to realize his potential
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If you train with guys that have any real size you will see that none of us use "full range of motion". Admittedly I rarely pay a lot of attention to criticism but it cracks me up when guys "correct" the training form of pros.
How's your joints?
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How's your joints?
I know im not him, but...
I find my bother me more when I go full ROM, especially lockout. If I dont quite lockout and dont quite go to 90* my joints feel much better. I try to keep the mechanical force on the muscle and not the joint.
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I know im not him, but...
I find my bother me more when I go full ROM, especially lockout. If I dont quite lockout and dont quite go to 90* my joints feel much better. I try to keep the mechanical force on the muscle and not the joint.
I find it really depends on the movement and the weight behind it. But most of the time a full ROM is the way to go. Unless your goal physique is Branch Warren... :-X
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Nothing but respect for both BR (full range of motion) and RC (half reps....but 200s). My poor left pec, which is held to the humorous bone with a pin, just shed a tear.
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I find it really depends on the movement and the weight behind it. But most of the time a full ROM is the way to go. Unless your goal physique is Branch Warren... :-X
I usually go from just shy of perpendicular to just shy of lockout on most exercises. So shoulder press ill come down to just about 90* from my forearm to my upper arm and stop just before my forearm and upper arm are parallel. I dont bring my arms down to where the angle becomes acute (or that my elbows drop below my shoulder)
I find this optimum for keeping the muscle under tension and keeping my joints feeling good.
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Only pussies lockout the weights cause they get to rest for a split second before going back down, the hardcore way is to go up and down no lockout with constant tension on the muscle.
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And even more so at eight weeks out!
HAha! (v out is nothing in tidays bodybuilding. Diet dosent exist anymore in bodybuilding. Its just up the gear. 20 years ago they starv themself into contest shape and being strong at that point was hard. Now, its just bullshit! Todays pros arent even in contest shape, they are bloated pigs even on the scen...fake watery muscles...no separation.
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8 weeks out
http://www.flexonline.com/training/chest/big-ramy-training-chest-150lb-dumbbells
looks like he would be able to lift more than that for a few reps. But not wise to tear a pec.