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http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/flashback-obama-promises-no-vacations-for-himself-as-president-video
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Lmfao cue his defenders
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Lmfao cue his defenders
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Give him a break . He has a brutal 16hr work week.
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Funny how the typical gaggle of fags, libtarts, pussies, wimps, and hipsters are nowhere to be found defending their cult icon
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Funny how the typical gaggle of fags, libtarts, pussies, wimps, and hipsters are nowhere to be found defending their cult icon
Give them a minute to wake up. It's not 11am yet.
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HEHEHEHEEH!!
But, Bush did the same thing. ::)
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They will be here in a minute hurling personal insults at everyone on this thread, while ignoring the actual thread subject.
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They will be here in a minute hurling personal insults at everyone on this thread, while ignoring the actual thread subject.
The basis upon which these fools voted for this asshole has proven to be a complete fraud and yet they still rush to his defense like little cult lemmings
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-obama-vacations-as-the-world-burns/2014/08/11/58755e5e-21a5-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html
;)
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/11/At-Martha-s-Vineyard-Obama-Complains-About-Cold-Ocean
FNG fairy
Hey you worthless Kenyan pos - try to deal w this cold water you illegal alien C UNT!
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/11/At-Martha-s-Vineyard-Obama-Complains-About-Cold-Ocean
FNG fairy
Hey you worthless Kenyan pos - try to deal w this cold water you illegal alien C UNT!
You know your life is worthless when this is what you have to complain about :D did you want him to say the water was warmer than hawaii
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You know your life is worthless when this is what you have to complain about :D did you want him to say the water was warmer than hawaii
or Kenya - that is what he knows about
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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/08/11/judge-jeanine-vacationing-obama-roll-your-sleeves-and-get-back-work
:D
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"You have to understand that if you seek that office, then you have to be prepared to give your life to it. "Essentially, the bargain that I think every President strikes with the American people is, ‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone. I am giving myself to you.’ "
-Senator Obama, running for President in 2008
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"You have to understand that if you seek that office, then you have to be prepared to give your life to it. "Essentially, the bargain that I think every President strikes with the American people is, ‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone. I am giving myself to you.’ "
-Senator Obama, running for President in 2008
He lied in that statement as well. Pathological.
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"You have to understand that if you seek that office, then you have to be prepared to give your life to it. "Essentially, the bargain that I think every President strikes with the American people is, ‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone. I am giving myself to you.’ "
-Senator Obama, running for President in 2008
Again, just more proof of your OCD and your need to make 50 posts a day about Obama no matter how stupid.
Apparently Senator Obama thinks that "every President" strikes this deal with the American people.
Those are his words. Clearly he knew at that time that all other POTUS's had taken vacations, had family life, leisure time etc.. so it's hard to know exactly what he suggesting in such a short clip taken out of context.
The one purpose this clip does serve is to help our resident mentally ill poster have an outlet for his OCD.
Hey 333 - just another day in your life with nothing to show for it but I guess that's how you want to live your life so carry on.
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If Barack Obama opens his mouth he's lying.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bidens-hamptons-begin-third-vacation-month_802864.html
Good - the more chooming, partying, vacationing, etc - the better and less damage they can do
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Again, just more proof of your OCD and your need to make 50 posts a day about Obama no matter how stupid.
Apparently Senator Obama thinks that "every President" strikes this deal with the American people.
Those are his words. Clearly he knew at that time that all other POTUS's had taken vacations, had family life, leisure time etc.. so it's hard to know exactly what he suggesting in such a short clip taken out of context.
The one purpose this clip does serve is to help our resident mentally ill poster have an outlet for his OCD.
Hey 333 - just another day in your life with nothing to show for it but I guess that's how you want to live your life so carry on.
No - just more in your face evidence of how badly you were conned and fooled into worshipping this idiot
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No - just more in your face evidence of how badly you were conned and fooled into worshipping this idiot
If you want to make judgements based on short clips with not context then that's your prerogative.
Given your profound stupidity, mental illness and low standards I would expect nothing less.
And of course it gives you another opportunity to work through you OCD and waste another day or your apparently worthless life.
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If you want to make judgements based on short clips with not context then that's your prerogative.
Given your profound stupidity, mental illness and low standards I would expect nothing less.
And of course it gives you another opportunity to work through you OCD and waste another day or your apparently worthless life.
The clip speaks for itself
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The clip speaks for itself
Again, just more proof of your OCD and your need to make 50 posts a day about Obama no matter how stupid.
Apparently Senator Obama thinks that "every President" strikes this deal with the American people.
Those are his words. Clearly he knew at that time that all other POTUS's had taken vacations, had family life, leisure time etc.. so it's hard to know exactly what he suggesting in such a short clip taken out of context.
The one purpose this clip does serve is to help our resident mentally ill poster have an outlet for his OCD.
Hey 333 - just another day in your life with nothing to show for it but I guess that's how you want to live your life so carry on.
and of course there is no quote of him saying "I promise not to go on vacation" so once again you've lied in the title of your thread
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SC lied about the title of the thread?
He must be a radical muslim then
Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!
http://www.muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml (http://www.muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml)
al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.
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SC lied about the title of the thread?
where is the quote of Obama promising not to take a vacation.
he seems to be talking about how being POTUS is not just a job but that "you give your life to it".
he seems to be talking in general terms about how the job becomes your life 24/7
He obviously was well aware that prior POTUS's took vacations, spent time with family, had leisure time, etc..
This is from 2008 but for some reason it's presently making the rounds of right wing media which is why our resident mental patient posted it today
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where is the quote of Obama promising not to take a vacation.
he seems to be talking about how being POTUS is not just a job but that "you give your life to it".
he seems to be talking in general terms about how the job becomes your life 24/7
He obviously was well aware that prior POTUS's took vacations, spent time with family, had leisure time, etc..
This is from 2008 but for some reason it's presently making the rounds of right wing media which is why our resident mental patient posted it today
Lol so wait if it's old it doesn't matter?
Shit that's news to me, where were you when they were asking for to nets tax returns or bringing up Bain, or his garbage man?
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Lol so wait if it's old it doesn't matter?
Shit that's news to me, where were you when they were asking for to nets tax returns or bringing up Bain, or his garbage man?
No, it doesn't matter because he doesn't promise to never take a vacation.
I'm just wondering why this clip is just making the rounds of right wing media in the last few days when it is 6 years old.
I would file this in the "who gives a shit" category but I just find it odd that it's suddenly making the rounds
FYI - you can google almost any story posted by certain people on this board and see that they do nothing more than regurgitate the latest right wing crap and never even bother to check if it's accurate, complete or true.
That's how very likely Joe Loco owned himself into oblivion with that Joe Barton thread a few days ago
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SC lied about the title of the thread?
No. You can interpret Obama's comment as saying he isn't going to take vacations. I don't really interpret them that way, but I think he was saying he would not be doing things like coming to Hawaii on separate jets with his wife and staying in a beachside home in December, something he never did before being elected president.
"You have to understand that if you seek that office, then you have to be prepared to give your life to it. "Essentially, the bargain that I think every President strikes with the American people is, ‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone. I am giving myself to you.’ "
-Senator Obama, running for President in 2008
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No. You can interpret Obama's comment as saying he isn't going to take vacations. I don't really interpret them that way, but I think he was saying he would not be doing things like coming to Hawaii on separate jets with his wife and staying in a beachside home in December, something he never did before being elected president.
"You have to understand that if you seek that office, then you have to be prepared to give your life to it. "Essentially, the bargain that I think every President strikes with the American people is, ‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone. I am giving myself to you.’ "
-Senator Obama, running for President in 2008
yeah, apparently he thinks that this is the "bargain" that every POTUS strike with the American people.
does that sentence makes sense to you.
do you think he's unaware of the former POTUS going on vacation, spending time with their family or even sleeping
Given that this is a 2 minute clip and we have no clue what the context was or what he said before or after, and given his statement about all other POTUS's making this bargain, I'm going to assume he was just talking prosaically about the 24/7 aspect of the job and giving your life over to it.
that's the only thing that makes sense given the limited info and the obvious assumption that he was aware of the lives and activities of prior POTUS's
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No, it doesn't matter because he doesn't promise to never take a vacation.
I'm just wondering why this clip is just making the rounds of right wing media in the last few days when it is 6 years old.
I would file this in the "who gives a shit" category but I just find it odd that it's suddenly making the rounds
FYI - you can google almost any story posted by certain people on this board and see that they do nothing more than regurgitate the latest right wing crap and never even bother to check if it's accurate, complete or true.
That's how very likely Joe Loco owned himself into oblivion with that Joe Barton thread a few days ago
probably b/c its just now coming to light, again I didnt hear you saying the same thing when they were asking for romneys tax returns or his bain experience or his garbage man...
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No, it doesn't matter because he doesn't promise to never take a vacation.
I'm just wondering why this clip is just making the rounds of right wing media in the last few days when it is 6 years old.
I would file this in the "who gives a shit" category but I just find it odd that it's suddenly making the rounds
FYI - you can google almost any story posted by certain people on this board and see that they do nothing more than regurgitate the latest right wing crap and never even bother to check if it's accurate, complete or true.
That's how very likely Joe Loco owned himself into oblivion with that Joe Barton thread a few days ago
‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone.'
its plain and simple to see what he means here straw, anyone that says it isnt is a fucking idiot or simply dishonest.
Now I think we can also say that he is obviously exagerating to some extent in his statement as well
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Does he say: "as president I will not take vacations" ? No.
Does he suggest as president he will not take vacations? Yes.
By that logic he also.suggests he won't sleep or see his family lol
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Does he say: "as president I will not take vacations" ? No.
Does he suggest as president he will not take vacations? Yes.
By that logic he also.suggests he won't sleep or see his family lol
Does he suggest that all POTUS strike a deal to never take a vacation, spend time with their family, engage in leisure activities?....... apparently if we follow your line of thinking then the answer is yes
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Does he say: "as president I will not take vacations" ? No.
Does he suggest as president he will not take vacations? Yes.
By that logic he also.suggests he won't sleep or see his family lol
agreed, i think its obvious to anyone honest that he implied he would limit the amount of personal time he takes.
I think its obvious to anyone honest that he has not...
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‘you give me this office, then in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure, is gone.'
its plain and simple to see what he means here straw, anyone that says it isnt is a fucking idiot or simply dishonest.
Now I think we can also say that he is obviously exagerating to some extent in his statement as well
that's because you're plain and most definitely simple
he starts about by saying if you seek that office you have to be prepared to give your life to it
that sets the framework to understand his comments that follow where he makes the claim about the bargain that all POTUS's make
If you want to believe he is promising to never take a vacation that's your business. As usual, don't expect me to join in your stupidity or best case, utter confusion
Here is the full interview:
http://www.learnoutloud.com/Free-Audio-Video/Politics/Political-Figures/A-Conversation-with-Barack-Obama/22223#
When you go to the link you see there are comments starting from Feb 2008 so it's not like this was some secretly leaked tape but for some reason the right wing echo chamber recently decided to make it another phony issue to fire up their base of lemmings
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that's because you're plain and most definitely simple
he starts about by saying if you seek that office you have to be prepared to give your life to it
that sets the framework to understand his comments that follow where he makes the claim about the bargain that all POTUS's make
If you want to believe he is promising to never take a vacation that's your business. As usual, don't expect me to join in your stupidity or best case, utter confusion
Here is the full interview:
http://www.learnoutloud.com/Free-Audio-Video/Politics/Political-Figures/A-Conversation-with-Barack-Obama/22223#
agreed, i think its obvious to anyone honest that he implied he would limit the amount of personal time he takes.
I think its obvious to anyone honest that he has not...
if you want to believe that he isnt implying that a president should severly limit his personal time dont expect me to join in your stupidity.
Its obvious he was exagerating as I have already said, its also obvious his point is that a president should limit his personal time in leu of his duties....
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if you want to believe that he is implying that a president should severly limit his personal time dont expect me to join in your stupidity.
Its obvious he was exagerating as I have already said, its also obvious his point is that a president should limit his personal time in leu of his duties....
can you please learn to spell or at least use spell check
are you aware he was not even a candidate when he made the statement
he was talking in very broad terms about dedicating your life to the job and everything else that normal people might prioritize (family, leisure, etc..) takes a back seat.
It's no more complicated than that
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can you please learn to spell or at least use spell check
are you aware he was not even a candidate when he made the statement
he was talking in very broad terms about dedicating your life to the job and everything else that normal people might prioritize (family, leisure, etc..) takes a back seat.
It's no more complicated than that
again so b/c it was a long time ago it doesnt matter? you said a few posts ago that its not b.c of that, make up your fucking mind....
its obvious he was saying that a president should severly limit his personal time, its obvious he doesnt....its that fucking simple
and no, if the spell check didnt require a pop up i would probably use it but the spelling doesnt bother me nearly as much as it does you i guess lol
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again so b/c it was a long time ago it doesnt matter? you said a few posts ago that its not b.c of that, make up your fucking mind....
its obvious he was saying that a president should severly limit his personal time, its obvious he doesnt....its that fucking simple
and no, if the spell check didnt require a pop up i would probably use it but the spelling doesnt bother me nearly as much as it does you i guess lol
stop asking me the same questions over and over again
No, it doesn't matter because he doesn't promise to never take a vacation.
I'm just wondering why this clip is just making the rounds of right wing media in the last few days when it is 6 years old.
I would file this in the "who gives a shit" category but I just find it odd that it's suddenly making the rounds
FYI - you can google almost any story posted by certain people on this board and see that they do nothing more than regurgitate the latest right wing crap and never even bother to check if it's accurate, complete or true.
That's how very likely Joe Loco owned himself into oblivion with that Joe Barton thread a few days ago
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Obama's original statement was silly. Nobody can work without some downtime, especially in jobs where there is high pressure and mental acuity is important. In fact, counterintuitive as it may seem, mentally taxing work requires a lot of downtime because the brain doesn't "spin down" instantly and a good night's sleep won't necessarily help someone who has been doing taxing mental work as much as it would help someone doing taxing physical work.
I find the notion that a President shouldn't be able to go play a round of golf or a game of basketball, to run or ride his bicycle, and to take some time to unwind to be stupid. The President is a human being, like the rest of us. He's not invested with superpowers making him immune to stress and fatigue.
Add to that that the President is never really on vacation anyways, since the office basically travels with and surrounds him at all times, and I don't think much about whether Obama is in the Oval Office, on Air Force 1, in Chicago, Hawaii, or Martha's Vineyard. Same with Bush II before him, and Clinton before that, etc.
But it can certainly look bad, and Obama (like Bush) is looking bad because he does these things at inopportune times and without regard for appearances. I find that weird from an otherwise talented and polished politician.
Beyond that, I see little to outrage me here, except the expense to taxpayers.
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Obama's original statement was silly. Nobody can work without some downtime, especially in jobs where there is high pressure and mental acuity is important. In fact, counterintuitive as it may seem, mentally taxing work requires a lot of downtime because the brain doesn't "spin down" instantly and a good night's sleep won't necessarily help someone who has been doing taxing mental work as much as it would help someone doing taxing physical work.
I find the notion that a President shouldn't be able to go play a round of golf or a game of basketball, to run or ride his bicycle, and to take some time to unwind to be stupid. The President is a human being, like the rest of us. He's not invested with superpowers making him immune to stress and fatigue.
Add to that that the President is never really on vacation anyways, since the office basically travels with and surrounds him at all times, and I don't think much about whether Obama is in the Oval Office, on Air Force 1, in Chicago, Hawaii, or Martha's Vineyard. Same with Bush II before him, and Clinton before that, etc.
But it can certainly look bad, and Obama (like Bush) is looking bad because he does these things at inopportune times and without regard for appearances. I find that weird from an otherwise talented and polished politician.
Beyond that, I see little to outrage me here, except the expense to taxpayers.
keep in mind that he was on a book tour and had not even announced his candidacy.
when you watch the full video (and fast forward to this part) you will see the interviewer ask him if he is running and he won't even answer the question. It's not worded very elegantly but he's just saying that this is not merely a job but a 24/7 commitment and normal priorities take a back seat.
I totally agree that vacations (and time with your family and leisure) are all necessary and have no doubt citizen Obama was well aware of the past activities of POTUS's
BTW - no one would even be talking about this if the right wing echo chamber didn't all decide to make this little clip a talking point (no doubt because Obama is about to head off on vacation)
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Obama's original statement was silly. Nobody can work without some downtime, especially in jobs where there is high pressure and mental acuity is important. In fact, counterintuitive as it may seem, mentally taxing work requires a lot of downtime because the brain doesn't "spin down" instantly and a good night's sleep won't necessarily help someone who has been doing taxing mental work as much as it would help someone doing taxing physical work.
I find the notion that a President shouldn't be able to go play a round of golf or a game of basketball, to run or ride his bicycle, and to take some time to unwind to be stupid. The President is a human being, like the rest of us. He's not invested with superpowers making him immune to stress and fatigue.
Add to that that the President is never really on vacation anyways, since the office basically travels with and surrounds him at all times, and I don't think much about whether Obama is in the Oval Office, on Air Force 1, in Chicago, Hawaii, or Martha's Vineyard. Same with Bush II before him, and Clinton before that, etc.
But it can certainly look bad, and Obama (like Bush) is looking bad because he does these things at inopportune times and without regard for appearances. I find that weird from an otherwise talented and polished politician.
Beyond that, I see little to outrage me here, except the expense to taxpayers.
agreed on all accounts, i think 3's point was to point out yet another example in the long line of examples of obamas hypocrisey.
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keep in mind that he was on a book tour and had not even announced his candidacy.
when you watch the full video (and fast forward to this part) you will see the interviewer ask him if he is running and he won't even answer the question. It's not worded very elegantly but he's just saying that this is not merely a job but a 24/7 commitment and normal priorities take a back seat.
I totally agree that vacations (and time with your family and leisure) are all necessary and have no doubt citizen Obama was well aware of the past activities of POTUS's
BTW - no one would even be talking about this if the right wing echo chamber didn't all decide to make this little clip a talking point (no doubt because Obama is about to head off on vacation)
what does it matter if he wasnt an candidate?
no one would have ever brought up romneys tax returns or his garbage man either if it wasnt for the libtard left, so what?
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Obama's original statement was silly. Nobody can work without some downtime, especially in jobs where there is high pressure and mental acuity is important. In fact, counterintuitive as it may seem, mentally taxing work requires a lot of downtime because the brain doesn't "spin down" instantly and a good night's sleep won't necessarily help someone who has been doing taxing mental work as much as it would help someone doing taxing physical work.
I find the notion that a President shouldn't be able to go play a round of golf or a game of basketball, to run or ride his bicycle, and to take some time to unwind to be stupid. The President is a human being, like the rest of us. He's not invested with superpowers making him immune to stress and fatigue.
Add to that that the President is never really on vacation anyways, since the office basically travels with and surrounds him at all times, and I don't think much about whether Obama is in the Oval Office, on Air Force 1, in Chicago, Hawaii, or Martha's Vineyard. Same with Bush II before him, and Clinton before that, etc.
But it can certainly look bad, and Obama (like Bush) is looking bad because he does these things at inopportune times and without regard for appearances. I find that weird from an otherwise talented and polished politician.
Beyond that, I see little to outrage me here, except the expense to taxpayers.
I agree. But how many vacations does it take considering this guy has the lightest schedule I've ever seen for someone who is supposed to be the "leader" of the free world?
Here is last weeks schedule, one week before his vacation....again. Feel free to scroll back through some months..
http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2014-W32
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what does it matter if he wasnt an candidate?
no one would have ever brought up romneys tax returns or his garbage man either if it wasnt for the libtard left, so what?
Didn't he announce his candidacy in 2007?
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what does it matter if he wasnt an candidate?
no one would have ever brought up romneys tax returns or his garbage man either if it wasnt for the libtard left, so what?
the reason I brought that up can you please learn to spell or at least use spell check
are you aware he was not even a candidate when he made the statement
he was talking in very broad terms about dedicating your life to the job and everything else that normal people might prioritize (family, leisure, etc..) takes a back seat.
It's no more complicated than that
you can keep asking me dumb question but you've run out of my goodwill on this thread
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the reason I brought that up
you can keep asking me dumb question but you've run out of my goodwill on this thread
that doesnt explain why it matters if he was a candidate or not then....maybe in your mind it does but in the real world...NOPE
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Didn't he announce his candidacy in 2007?
yep
the original video appears to be a book tour interview for The Audacity of Hope published in 2006
Full interview video -
43:14 mark the interviewer asks him if he can imagine making the choice to run
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that doesnt explain why it matters if he was a candidate or not then....maybe in your mind it does but in the real world...NOPE
the right wing echo chamber is not the real world
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Obama's original statement was silly. Nobody can work without some downtime, especially in jobs where there is high pressure and mental acuity is important. In fact, counterintuitive as it may seem, mentally taxing work requires a lot of downtime because the brain doesn't "spin down" instantly and a good night's sleep won't necessarily help someone who has been doing taxing mental work as much as it would help someone doing taxing physical work.
I find the notion that a President shouldn't be able to go play a round of golf or a game of basketball, to run or ride his bicycle, and to take some time to unwind to be stupid. The President is a human being, like the rest of us. He's not invested with superpowers making him immune to stress and fatigue.
Add to that that the President is never really on vacation anyways, since the office basically travels with and surrounds him at all times, and I don't think much about whether Obama is in the Oval Office, on Air Force 1, in Chicago, Hawaii, or Martha's Vineyard. Same with Bush II before him, and Clinton before that, etc.
But it can certainly look bad, and Obama (like Bush) is looking bad because he does these things at inopportune times and without regard for appearances. I find that weird from an otherwise talented and polished politician.
Beyond that, I see little to outrage me here, except the expense to taxpayers.
I'm not sure anyone is suggesting he shouldn't take vacations.
I several problems with the kinds of vacations he and his wife have taken:
1. If we were in the "worst recession since the Great Depression," as he repeatedly said, then he should have led by example and taken less expensive vacations. Having his wife fly to foreign countries and mainland resorts at taxpayer expense, for example, showed pretty poor judgment. Traveling to Hawaii in separate planes, just because he can, showed poor judgment. If he's footing, no problem. But I don't like paying for that crap.
2. He took advantage of perks of the job, in the middle of this great recession. He never came to Hawaii and stayed in a beachfront house worth in excess of $10 million, on one of the nicest beaches on the planet, before becoming president. He's from Chicago. He should have taken his butt to Chicago or had a staycation in DC, like many families do when they are tightening belts during tough economic times.
3. Think about this: if a large company is deeply in debt, laying off employees, cutting salaries, and just having a very difficult time, should the CEO be flaunting numerous golf trips, foreign vacations, Hawaii trips at company expense, etc.? That kind of CEO would probably get fired by the Board.
4. I honestly don't think he works hard enough to take numerous vacations during the year. People (or I should say probably just Soul Crusher lol) have posted articles about the president not attending daily briefings, including intelligence briefings, and overall just not working very hard. Even some liberals say he has checked out.
So overall, no problem by me with him taking vacations, but I definitely have a problem with how he went about it.
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the right wing echo chamber is not the real world
neither is the left wing echo chamber there boss....whats your point?
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/11/At-Martha-s-Vineyard-Obama-Complains-About-Cold-Ocean
FNG fairy
Hey you worthless Kenyan pos - try to deal w this cold water you illegal alien C UNT!
Just imagine, you did for free what REAL soldiers actually get paid to do. Who's the idiot now?
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neither is the left wing echo chamber there boss....whats your point?
this is not an issue in the left wing
this is non-story being promoted to get the dipshits in the right wing who typically fall for this nonsense fired up
seems to have worked here on GB.com as our typical cadre of nitwits took the bait
don't worry, another salvo of meaningless bullshit will follow it soon
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this is not an issue in the left wing
this is non-story being promoted to get the dipshits in the right wing who typically fall for this nonsense to fired up
seems to have worked here on GB.com as our typical cadre of nitwits took the bait
don't worry, another salvo of meaningless bullshit will follow it soon
really so romneys tax returns and his garbage man where legitimate issues for you then?
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I agree. But how many vacations does it take considering this guy has the lightest schedule I've ever seen for someone who is supposed to be the "leader" of the free world?
Here is last weeks schedule, one week before his vacation....again. Feel free to scroll back through some months..
http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2014-W32
I'm not defending Obama specifically. I'm criticizing his statement which was overbroad and, let's be generous and say poorly phrased.
Specifically on Obama, I would be ok with the guy golfing every weekend if he worked hard and was an effective President, but he doesn't and isn't. He, like others before him, take advantage of the perks of his Office and doesn't stop to think how his actions look because it no longer matters. I think that's pretty fucked up.
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I'm not sure anyone is suggesting he shouldn't take vacations.
I several problems with the kinds of vacations he and his wife have taken:
1. If we were in the "worst recession since the Great Depression," as he repeatedly said, then he should have led by example and taken less expensive vacations. Having his wife fly to foreign countries and mainland resorts at taxpayer expense, for example, showed pretty poor judgment. Traveling to Hawaii in separate planes, just because he can, showed poor judgment. If he's footing, no problem. But I don't like paying for that crap.
2. He took advantage of perks of the job, in the middle of this great recession. He never came to Hawaii and stayed in a beachfront house worth in excess of $10 million, on one of the nicest beaches on the planet, before becoming president. He's from Chicago. He should have taken his butt to Chicago or had a staycation in DC, like many families do when they are tightening belts during tough economic times.
3. Think about this: if a large company is deeply in debt, laying off employees, cutting salaries, and just having a very difficult time, should the CEO be flaunting numerous golf trips, foreign vacations, Hawaii trips at company expense, etc.? That kind of CEO would probably get fired by the Board.
4. I honestly don't think he works hard enough to take numerous vacations during the year. People (or I should say probably just Soul Crusher lol) have posted articles about the president not attending daily briefings, including intelligence briefings, and overall just not working very hard. Even some liberals say he has checked out.
So overall, no problem by me with him taking vacations, but I definitely have a problem with how he went about it.
I agree entirely with you.
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really so romneys tax returns and his garbage man where legitimate issues for you then?
I don't give a rats ass about anything "Romney"
He's a private citizen
What are the odds you're going to ask me another idiotic and irrelevant question?
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I don't give a rats ass about anything "Romney"
He's a private citizen
What are the odds you're going to ask me another idiotic and irrelevant question?
hahah you sure did are one time there boss
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hahah you sure did are one time there boss
I have no recollection of giving a shit about candidate Romney garbage man
what does that have to do with non-candidate Obama saying the POTUS must give his life to the job
I'll go ahead and answer it for you.......nothing
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Vacations? NO!! They were just looooooong breaks!! ;D
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obama-familys-2014-christmas-vacation-in-hawaii-cost-taxpayers-3672798-in-transportation-expenses/
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He has arguably the most important job in the world. Let the man have some down time.
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He has arguably the most important job in the world. Let the man have some down time.
I prefer him on vacation just calling out his lies