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Title: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 23, 2014, 06:46:53 PM
I've only used ones with the medium bends in them.
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 Do the ones with the more extreme bends take less stress off the wrists?
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Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 23, 2014, 06:49:22 PM
For me, the bend takes the stress out of my elbows. At some point, it becomes effectively a hammer curl for brachialis.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: BB on August 23, 2014, 06:51:14 PM
A bit, they put you in more of a neutral grip. But it's not a super change from one to the other, just a little reduction.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: hench on August 23, 2014, 06:52:10 PM
ez bar curls feel much more natural than a straight bar as it's curled up, i feel discomfort on the wrists with a straight bar so never use them anymore
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 23, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
A bit, they put you in more of a neutral grip. But it's not a super change from one to the other, just a little reduction.
The ones with the super curl in them look like you would have a harder time doing close grip curls...some only have the knurling grip on the outer bend, unlike the medium bend bars which have knurling on the inner and outer bends
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: BB on August 23, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
The ones with the super curl in them look like you would have a harder time doing close grip curls...some only have the knurling grip on the outer bend, unlike the medium bend bars which have knurling on the inner and outer bends

This is true, I haven't played with one in a longtime, but that was a problem with them.

Something like the old Gaspari bar is an interesting compromise, if you can find one -

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2233161&d=1262228830).
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 23, 2014, 07:17:07 PM
This is true, I haven't played with one in a longtime, but that was a problem with them.

Something like the old Gaspari bar is an interesting compromise, if you can find one -

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2233161&d=1262228830).
Damn, I have never seen one of those before.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: epic_alien on August 23, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
do you lift parker?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 23, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
do you lift parker?
Yeah, from time to time. Then got into bodyweight exercises. I was really into it (lifting) until I discovered this place. I should "undiscover" getbig and see what happens.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: epic_alien on August 23, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
its a strange  thing to us as competitors  as to why your all here. don't mean to insult you, cause i know your a cool due, especially when it comes to car knowledge
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 23, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
its a strange  thing to us as competitors  as to why your all here. don't mean to insult you, cause i know your a cool due, especially when it comes to car knowledge

Since when is getbig a competitor only site ?

speaking of competitions...how did your last one go stud ?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: trapz101 on August 23, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Yeah, from time to time. Then got into bodyweight exercises. I was really into it (lifting) until I discovered this place. I should "undiscover" getbig and see what happens.

Getbig,crushing bodybuilding dreams one at a time
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: jephrius on August 23, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Yeah, from time to time. Then got into bodyweight exercises. I was really into it (lifting) until I discovered this place. I should "undiscover" getbig and see what happens.
in your case:
Welfare check
Food stamps
Some weed
Obese female relatives who never shut up
Grape soda
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 23, 2014, 10:39:44 PM
The straight bar is superior for bicep mass.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2014, 03:30:30 AM
Use all 3 bars: Straight, EZ curl, Super Curl. (Just like training chest-- incline, decline, flat)


Note: I've used the "super curl" bar for heavy tricep extensions. It is excellent
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: hench on August 24, 2014, 03:36:21 AM
Have you noticed they personally?
The straight bar is superior for bicep mass.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: gracie bjj on August 24, 2014, 03:50:05 AM
The straight bar is superior for bicep mass.

i agree 100%,wrist is in much better position for the bicep to fully contract.all the greats known for their bi,s like scott,arnold,grant,colbert always say the straight bar is the best for biceps
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mazrim on August 24, 2014, 04:00:03 AM
Takes more stress off bicep.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: gracie bjj on August 24, 2014, 04:03:45 AM
the hammer preacher is pretty much the same as using a curl bar, wrist is in same basic direction as if u where curling with a wide grip on the curl bar
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 24, 2014, 04:21:28 AM
i agree 100%,wrist is in much better position for the bicep to fully contract.all the greats known for their bi,s like scott,arnold,grant,colbert always say the straight bar is the best for biceps

I used to agree, until my elbow tendons got painful. With the EZ bar, I can add 20-30 pounds over the straight bar and curl it with no pain. So for me, the EZ means "more mass".
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: epic_alien on August 24, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
Since when is getbig a competitor only site ?

speaking of competitions...how did your last one go stud ?

5th in the heavies
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 24, 2014, 06:01:21 AM
Many say use the the straight bar because part of the function of the bicep is to supinate the grip. Notice when you twist the wrist pinkie inward your bicep peaks. Having said that many top bodybuilders like Yates use it. I have a bad shoulder and for me the ez curl doesn't irritate it. Many say it takes the strain off of bad elbow region problems.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 06:08:00 AM
I used to agree, until my elbow tendons got painful. With the EZ bar, I can add 20-30 pounds over the straight bar and curl it with no pain. So for me, the EZ means "more mass".

With the straight bar as with everything its how you use it that matter
Take it from a "biceps" man
 The why people some times have issues with the straight bar is the hyper extend at the bottom of the movement and the curl in a static manner, holding the bar arms stretched at the bottom of the movement for 1 - 2 seconds (kiss of death)
The ez bar is ok what I fing is it neglects the in we head of the bicep and puts the most stress on the outer  head, which is what I use hammer curls for, so it does t give that thick look overall
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 24, 2014, 06:21:32 AM
With the straight bar as with everything its how you use it that matter
Take it from a "biceps" man
 The why people some times have issues with the straight bar is the hyper extend at the bottom of the movement and the curl in a static manner, holding the bar arms stretched at the bottom of the movement for 1 - 2 seconds (kiss of death)
The ez bar is ok what I fing is it neglects the in we head of the bicep and puts the most stress on the outer  head, which is what I use hammer curls for, so it does t give that thick look overall


I've been fighting a rotator shoulder issue which had some secondary affects of elbow and biceps pain. The EZ bar let me train through it. I am not 100% yet, but I hope to return to straight bar someday. For now, it still causes discomfort.

Plus, I have a decent peak already, need more mass...

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Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 06:26:22 AM
I've been fighting a rotator shoulder issue which had some secondary affects of elbow and biceps pain. The EZ bar let me train through it. I am not 100% yet, but I hope to return to straight bar someday. For now, it still causes discomfort.

Plus, I have a decent peak already, need more mass...

(http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/_aj_gb_/c64ec895dcedad91d7dd73f0784e38c5_zpsf4ac4409.jpg)

Great bicep man .. Nice peak and shape

Sorry about the injury, I'm not saying I never use the ez , I do but 7 times out of 10 if I'm 100% I choose the straight

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Simple Simon on August 24, 2014, 06:28:49 AM
The straight bar is superior for bicep mass.
Oh brother    ::)
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on August 24, 2014, 06:37:30 AM
I like both but the EZ Bar is kinder like a few have wrote. Funny thing is though, with french press i like a straight Bar better  :-\  same with pressdowns i like the straight bar attachment.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
use a combination of all of them you can't go wrong. ;D
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 24, 2014, 07:10:20 AM
use a combination of all of them you can't go wrong. ;D

Would love to be that partially obscured picture of Basile on the wall...
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 08:06:28 AM
use a combination of all of them you can't go wrong. ;D
Agree but IMO straight should be more of a staple
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: wikkedonez on August 24, 2014, 09:34:39 AM
Anyone else use this for biceps too?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: the trainer on August 24, 2014, 09:58:13 AM
I've been fighting a rotator shoulder issue which had some secondary affects of elbow and biceps pain. The EZ bar let me train through it. I am not 100% yet, but I hope to return to straight bar someday. For now, it still causes discomfort.

Plus, I have a decent peak already, need more mass...

(http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/_aj_gb_/c64ec895dcedad91d7dd73f0784e38c5_zpsf4ac4409.jpg)

Fat arm I am sure the fat women love it.
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Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 24, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
Fat arm I am sure the fat women love it.
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/2a/5f/eb/2a5febe410427d21314af8f55ca557a8.jpg)

Are you talking to me, little man?

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Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 10:16:56 AM
The straight bar is superior for bicep mass.

Epic bro science. The peak contraction with a straight bar might be slightly better, until you get serious problems with your wrists.

Apart from this; I'm a strong believer in unilateral arm work with dumbbells, sometimes combined with resistance bands for constant tension.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
Would love to be that partially obscured picture of Basile on the wall...
actually casey viator rip.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2014, 11:05:30 AM
Agree but IMO straight should be more of a staple
straight bar is the first barbell in the series.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: funk51 on August 24, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
Anyone else use this for biceps too?
that's there too right next to plate rack
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2014, 01:01:43 PM
Anyone else use this for biceps too?
Good for super setting bis and tris.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Epic bro science. The peak contraction with a straight bar might be slightly better, until you get serious problems with your wrists.

Apart from this; I'm a strong believer in unilateral arm work with dumbbells, sometimes combined with resistance bands for constant tension.

Not bro science it's what's worked for me over the years...
For me this is the "squats of biceps" bothered  my wrists in the beginning as a beginner. Nearly 10 yrs later close very close to 20 cold ... And 20inches pumped... Natural .... No bro science , brother just trial and error.

Also I never once said it was the only movement  for biceps , for the most part now I use Dumbells , prone dumbel curls , spider curls over the opposite side of the preacher etc.
So no not bro science....
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
Not bro science it's what's worked for me over the years...
For me this is the "squats of biceps" bothered  my wrists in the beginning as a beginner. Nearly 10 yrs later close very close to 20 cold ... And 20inches pumped... Natural .... No bro science , brother just trial and error.

Also I never once said it was the only movement  for biceps , for the most part now I use Dumbells , prone dumbel curls , spider curls over the opposite side of the preacher etc.
So no not bro science....

The way you describe it is exactly what bro science is all about (trial and error & sharing those experiences), not that this is a bad thing(!)
It's the genetics, hard work & good nutrition that brought you those guns, not that 'magic' straight bar.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 02:55:12 PM
The way you describe it is exactly what bro science is all about (trial and error & sharing those experiences), not that this is a bad thing(!)
It's the genetics, hard work & good nutrition that brought you those guns, not that 'magic' straight bar.

No my statement is
If all the bicep excercises straight bar curls give the most mass well for me...
So I recommend it above ez bar curls
Simple
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Thespritz0 on August 24, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
Arnie approved!
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2014, 03:11:42 PM
Not bro science it's what's worked for me over the years...
For me this is the "squats of biceps" bothered  my wrists in the beginning as a beginner. Nearly 10 yrs later close very close to 20 cold ... And 20inches pumped... Natural .... No bro science , brother just trial and error.

Also I never once said it was the only movement  for biceps , for the most part now I use Dumbells , prone dumbel curls , spider curls over the opposite side of the preacher etc.
So no not bro science....

Spider curls.

Why am I not surprised you do them too  8)
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
No my statement is
If all the bicep excercises straight bar curls give the most mass well for me...
So I recommend it above ez bar curls
Simple

With all respect, but that's just your personal belief (where bro science starts...).
You would achieve the same results with an EZ, DBs, cable or machine, as long as it's with the same intensity.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 03:34:25 PM
With all respect, but that's just your personal belief (where bro science starts...).
You would achieve the same results with an EZ, DBs, cable or machine, as long as it's with the same intensity.
As I explained before the ez bar when I do it hits the outer head of the biceps... For me , where's as the straight hits that and the in we head.  So no I could not get the exact same result because technically they are both 2 different excercises , and yes it's my opinion I don't speak for you bobby sue or mike. I'm speaking for myself here , I know what works how on MY physique and based in that I make recommendation. So going by your theory all opinions on exercise is bro science.. Wrong
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 24, 2014, 04:39:30 PM
i agree 100%,wrist is in much better position for the bicep to fully contract.all the greats known for their bi,s like scott,arnold,grant,colbert always say the straight bar is the best for biceps
After years of using a straight bar I switched to an EZ Curl. It would pump and burnout my forearms before my biceps, especially on preacher curls. To get the full effect on the biceps I have to use an EZ Curl on preachers which have always been my favorite bicep exercise.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Grape Ape on August 24, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
I do but 7 times out of 10 if I'm 100% I choose the straight



30% outed
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 09:21:34 PM
Spider curls.

Why am I not surprised you do them too  8)
Yup great bicep movement.  8)
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 24, 2014, 10:57:43 PM


Ben pakulski kind of confirms what I say here
For you guys that only listen to pros.

Watch from 1.49
Where he speaks on the ez curl bar
He uploaded this today by the way so I didn't go looking for a vid to discredit the ez curl bar
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 07:34:52 AM
 Bump
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 25, 2014, 07:45:36 AM
Bump

You want an endless debate about straight vs. ez bars?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on August 25, 2014, 08:00:27 AM
You want an endless debate about straight vs. ez bars?
exactly...ever heard of Close grip chins? great mass builder. superset it with preacher curls..
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 25, 2014, 08:05:01 AM
exactly...ever heard of Close grip chins? great mass builder. superset it with preacher curls..

I've tried them but I'm not a fan of supinated grips because of my wrists. Almost 100% of my bicep work is with dumbbells, sometimes combined with bands.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on August 25, 2014, 08:10:16 AM
I've tried them but I'm not a fan of supinated grips because of my wrists. Almost 100% of my bicep work is with dumbbells, sometimes combined with bands.
yes was not aimed at you Cloggy.. i know you know your Training.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 25, 2014, 08:13:24 AM
yes was not aimed at you Cloggy.. i know you know your Training.

Stop calling me cloggy or a call my dad :D
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 08:19:04 AM


Ben pakulski confirms what I say here
For you guys that only listen to pros.

Watch from 1.49

The more supine the hand position is the more bicep muscle fibres are hit the ez bar doesn't allow the the hands to be spinated optimally, which again is why I stress for me it hits the outer bicep head and brachialis
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
biceps
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 25, 2014, 08:28:37 AM


Ben pakulski confirms what I say here
For you guys that only listen to pros.

Watch from 1.49

The more supine the hand position is the more bicep muscle fibres are hit the ez bar doesn't allow the the hands to be spinated optimally, which again is why I stress for me it hits the outer bicep head and brachialis


No need to post this twice, most of us aren't stoned ::)
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 08:33:01 AM
biceps
Good bicep man
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
Good bicep man
trying to put 2 more inches on them then i'll get a lot of women
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 08:35:14 AM
Would be cool if Parker chimes in on this if love to hear his opinion
He's one of the few here interesting in training and less in "witty"internet jabs
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on August 25, 2014, 08:40:59 AM
trying to put 2 more inches on them then i'll get a lot of women
Do you do Hammer curls?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 08:42:21 AM
Do you do Hammer curls?
yes but i've been doing the pinwheel variation last few weeks

i think i dont like it and go back to regular hammers
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 11:47:04 AM
Would be cool if Parker chimes in on this if love to hear his opinion
He's one of the few here interesting in training and less in "witty"internet jabs
My bad, I thought the thread was dead. I see that you mentioned spider curls, I think we talked about them before. I feel the movement with both straight and EZ curl bar. I would do them close gripped.

Years ago, I had effed up my wrists using a straight bar, then got a EZ curl bar at home to work with. Far better. A few years back I got a straight bar---to work with on days I do not go to the gym and to relieve stress.
Pretty good feeling. I sold the straight bar and the weights that came with it.

My original question was actually due to seeing those super curled EZ curl bars at Dicks and Walmart, and who buys them. Because the only EZ curl bars that I have seen people use are the medium curled ones.

 
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
My bad, I thought the thread was dead. I see that you mentioned spider curls, I think we talked about them before. I feel the movement with both straight and EZ curl bar. I would do them close gripped.

Years ago, I had effed up my wrists using a straight bar, then got a EZ curl bar at home to work with. Far better. A few years back I got a straight bar---to work with on days I do not go to the gym and to relieve stress.
Pretty good feeling. I sold the straight bar and the weights that came with it.

My original question was actually due to seeing those super curled EZ curl bars at Dicks and Walmart, and who buys them. Because the only EZ curl bars that I have seen people use are the medium curled ones.

 


Ok so the ez bar worked better for you
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 25, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
Ok so the ez bar worked better for you

I am having trouble parsing that post too.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 12:16:43 PM
Ok so the ez bar worked better for you
A little bit. Back then. At the gym and at home I prefer the straight bar. Easier to do wrist curls as well. I prefer EZ curl for doing tricep extensions, which you can do superset bis with. The problem at my gym is that the straight bars with the weight you want are either misplaced, or used...and only go up to 60-65. The
EZ curl bars then take over...if you can find the weight.
I had learned to do wrist curls so that my forearms will keep up with the straight bar weight.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
I am having trouble parsing that post too.
Originally had a straight bar, effed up wrists due to the straight bar. Got EZ curl bar, it was good curling weight, but decided to go to straight bar again. Liked it, but sold the bar and weights. Saw EZ curl bars with extreme bends and wondered who buys those.

Understand now?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 12:25:50 PM


Ben pakulski kind of confirms what I say here
For you guys that only listen to pros.

Watch from 1.49
Where he speaks on the ez curl bar
He uploaded this today by the way so I didn't go looking for a vid to discredit the ez curl bar
another bro scientist who thinks rotating a dumbel around the axis of your forearm equals supinating the bicep versus resistance

what a load of crap

they would need a bicep machine that offers resistance around the axis of the forearm so supinating it actually does something significant

twirling around dumbels is laughable
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 25, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
Originally had a straight bar, effed up wrists due to the straight bar. Got EZ curl bar, it was good curling weight, but decided to go to straight bar again. Liked it, sold the bar and weights. Saw EZ curl bars with extreme bends and wondered who buys those.

Understand now?

Yes. I had completely misunderstood that post.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 12:30:38 PM
Yes. I had completely misunderstood that post.
I have never seen anybody use those extreme bend EZ curl bars, except one hood dude on YouTube who was using an all black old school one---curling for his girlfriend.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 25, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
I have never seen anybody use those extreme bend EZ curl bars, except one hood dude on YouTube who was using an all black old school one---curling for his girlfriend.

The super curly ones are just barbell hammer curls.

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Royalty on August 25, 2014, 12:45:24 PM
The super curly ones are just barbell hammer curls.



yes, but that bar is better suited for tricep training
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: funk51 on August 25, 2014, 12:52:52 PM
 ;D take your pick.... ;D
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
yes, but that bar is better suited for tricep training
The super curly ones typically don't have knurling on the inside bends or curls, where most people place their hands for skull crushers. Also, the extreme curl makes it awkward---to me, (I picked one up in the store to do a tricep extension) for anybody doing tricep work. I think the best compromise for tricep work is the bar with medium bends.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
skull crushers with olympic barbell looks coolest
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _aj_ on August 25, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
skull crushers with olympic barbell looks coolest

You need at least a 20kg on each side to maximize that.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 01:48:59 PM
You need at least a 20kg on each side to maximize that.
that's doable for a man of my caliber
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: gracie bjj on August 25, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
i enjoy doing skull crushers on the smith machine lately,u can really focus bigtime on the movement n u dont need a spotter.i set the safety things right at my forehead so if i slip or anything my SKULL wont get CRUSHED,better safe than sorry and at my age a injury can really set me back awhile n time aint exactly on my side :(
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
i enjoy doing skull crushers on the smith machine lately,u can really focus bigtime on the movement n u dont need a spotter.i set the safety things right at my forehead so if i slip or anything my SKULL wont get CRUSHED,better safe than sorry and at my age a injury can really set me back awhile n time aint exactly on my side :(
I like Phil Heath's angled tricep extension. He takes two dumbells, has the bench angled, and does the movement.

Or one from an old Kali Muscle vid--he lies with his upper body on the bench, and I think his arm over his chest and he does a tricep extension. You remember that vid Mes?
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 03:00:44 PM
I like Phil Heath's angled tricep extension. He takes two dumbells, has the bench angled, and does the movement.

Or one from an old Kali Muscle vid--he lies with his upper body on the bench, and I think his arm over his chest and he does a tricep extension. You remember that vid Mes?
yup that was when Kali was hardcore of all the pros I've watched I've learnt most from brandon curry

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
yup that was when Kali was hardcore of all the pros I've watched I've learnt most from brandon curry


Good vid. Brandon always has good vids.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 03:28:01 PM
Good vid. Brandon always has good vids.
Yup I learn a lot from him, just this small angles etc work for me just tweaking my tricep training in accordance to his videos ,worked for me
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Yup I learn a lot from him, just this small angles etc work for me just tweaking my tricep training in accordance to his videos ,worked for me
Shawn Ray was the same way. You come away from the video actually feeling like you learned something.
Funny how you said Kali was more hardcore I his early vids, well before he even competed. He was working out in small gyms and was smaller.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
Yeah be just did the weight without this over the top persona he has now... Which is crazy.
Shawn is a good trainer too Ben paluski, cedric, I always learn from they'd in contrast to guys like johnnie Jackson and branch warren...
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 03:49:22 PM
Yeah be just did the weight without this over the top persona he has now... Which is crazy.
Shawn is a good trainer too Ben paluski, cedric, I always learn from they'd in contrast to guys like johnnie Jackson and branch warren...
johny jackson has an insane back development

i saw him guest pose in fibo 2011 and his back development blew me away
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: gracie bjj on August 25, 2014, 03:55:48 PM
skull crushers are awesome doing them on a decline bench with the curl bar, your tris r under constant tension from beginning to end cause of the angle
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
skull crushers are awesome doing them on a decline bench with the curl bar, your tris r under constant tension from beginning to end cause of the angle
the same result is achieved doing them on a regular bench with your elbows behind your shoulder line ::)
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Parker on August 25, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
Yeah be just did the weight without this over the top persona he has now... Which is crazy.
Shawn is a good trainer too Ben paluski, cedric, I always learn from they'd in contrast to guys like johnnie Jackson and branch warren...
Here is that old vid of Kali Muscle


I think JOJ does have some good points. I think he gets caught up in that throwing weight around BS.



JOJ floor presses

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 04:23:31 PM
00:42

skull crushers with 100kilograms?

is this real life?

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
00:42

skull crushers with 100kilograms?

is this real life?


Not impossible but knowing rich pianis affinity for things fake those plate probably are fake, not that it matters
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: anabolichalo on August 25, 2014, 04:33:59 PM
Not impossible but knowing rich pianis affinity for things fake those plate probably are fake, not that it matters
it matters to me >:(

using fake plates is like wearing a toupet


it makes me mad as fuck
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Lustral on August 25, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
I prefer mild bend. Have one with a semi circle hook in middle in gym, it is useless to me. Some morons in gym use it for good mornings, I reckon they think hook shape is so it fits around neck. They also walk on treadmill with backpacks. Oh, they're both naturals and look like shit too.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 25, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
Here is that old vid of Kali Muscle


I think JOJ does have some good points. I think he gets caught up in that throwing weight around BS.



JOJ floor presses



Nah I dont rate Jackson . His training is wack, worst trainer along with branch warren I've never learned anything from him nothing
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Lustral on August 25, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Nah I dont rate Jackson . His training is wack, worst trainer along with branch warren I've never learned anything from him nothing

I have a JOJ dvd from before he was pro. Has some corny banjo music when he does lunges. Most of it is useless but for chest he does pause on chest before concentric rep. 5x5 with that. It works well, you will be in agony next day.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Nails on August 25, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
straight bars for me only   ;)

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Lustral on August 25, 2014, 04:54:40 PM
straight bars for me only   ;)



Have to get back using straight bar. Had wrist probs a year or so ago. Used to curl 80kg for 2 reps natural no idea how I didn't tear muscle. Use 40kg on ez bar now which is 53kg or so for 15 or so reps.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Gym Rat on February 26, 2024, 04:21:44 AM
Any of you Musclemen ever use Criterion Bars?
The Olympic curl one looks interesting...
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: JackTheRipper on February 26, 2024, 05:16:05 AM
Dumbbells are far superior
You guys know nothing
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: BB on February 26, 2024, 05:24:00 AM
Any of you Musclemen ever use Criterion Bars?
The Olympic curl one looks interesting...

Had one like the very top for a few weeks. It was interesting, but not enough to keep. Like most things, I just went back to regular bars and dumbbells by nature. It was decently made compared to bars of the time.

Troy Barbell / VTX makes similar ones called their "Supra Bar" line - https://troyfitness.com/products/supra-bar .

 
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: BigRo on February 26, 2024, 05:34:00 AM
Dumbbells are far superior
You guys know nothing

You don't even lift.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: tatoo on February 26, 2024, 05:54:59 AM
i like skinny, straight bars for biceps work the best.... like the ez for tris
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: _bruce_ on February 26, 2024, 06:17:32 AM
Dumbbells are far superior
You guys know nothing

I agree but many BBs love the look of doing the exercise with a straight bar.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: wes on February 26, 2024, 07:20:01 AM
Any of you Musclemen ever use Criterion Bars?
The Olympic curl one looks interesting...
I do seated supinated DB Curls......starting with my palms facing backwards and rotating them as I curl then I reverse the process......moderate weight with no cheating and you will really feel them bad boys.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: bhank on February 26, 2024, 07:46:53 AM
I really like my rogue curl bar. I do ez bar curls and dumbells curls on bicep days

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-curl-bar?msclkid=a42284ad66391c6a318fe171d4746e7a&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Rogue%20Fitness%20-%20Weightlifting%20Bars%20%26%20Plates&utm_term=rogue%20curl%20bar&utm_content=Curl%20Bar
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Gym Rat on February 26, 2024, 07:47:16 AM
Dumbbells are far superior
You guys know nothing

Depends on the exercise. Ill take a barbell for SQ and DL...
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: BEEFCAKE on February 26, 2024, 07:59:03 AM
Any of you Musclemen ever use Criterion Bars?
The Olympic curl one looks interesting...
there is a rec center in downtown vancouver that has one of these , i thought it was pretty sweet
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Gym Rat on February 26, 2024, 08:01:33 AM
I really like my rogue curl bar.

https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-curl-bar?msclkid=a42284ad66391c6a318fe171d4746e7a&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Rogue%20Fitness%20-%20Weightlifting%20Bars%20%26%20Plates&utm_term=rogue%20curl%20bar&utm_content=Curl%20Bar

Thats a nice bar, mine is OK (cheap Titan) but does the job. The spacing is perfect for me when doing skull-crushers. (Dont like when its too close)..
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: bhank on February 26, 2024, 08:09:26 AM
Thats a nice bar, mine is OK (cheap Titan) but does the job. The spacing is perfect for me when doing skull-crushers. (Dont like when its too close)..

I have the competition gopher bar but it's a little too extreme the rogue feels better for training
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: bhank on February 26, 2024, 10:18:46 AM
Thats a nice bar, mine is OK (cheap Titan) but does the job. The spacing is perfect for me when doing skull-crushers. (Dont like when its too close)..

The higher end bars have better ball bearings and the weight just kind of rolls a little better in the wrist forearm when curling. The fixed ez curl bars that are preset at the gym dont roll at all and it is a different feeling.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 26, 2024, 06:44:51 PM
Yeah, from time to time. Then got into bodyweight exercises. I was really into it (lifting) until I discovered this place. I should "undiscover" getbig and see what happens.

Body weight stuff is great. Sometimes I wish I was never into lifting. I probably would have been a lot more healthier doing running and body weight stuff. I blame lifting for wrecking my shoulders. Guys who serious bodyweight guys look great.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2024, 05:30:50 AM
Body weight stuff is great. Sometimes I wish I was never into lifting. I probably would have been a lot more healthier doing running and body weight stuff. I blame lifting for wrecking my shoulders. Guys who serious bodyweight guys look great.
any sport can cause injuries, running included. I know more than a few people who have trained in martial arts & also caused wear & tear on their joints.
I knew a Girl who started TaeKwon Do at a very early age & by her early 20s had hip problems.
Look at these muscle ups people do on bars, donīt you think the joints are under extreme stress? any extreme range of motion under stress regardless if bodyweight or weights are used can injure your joints & soft structures
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2024, 06:22:05 AM
I've never bought an EZ bar but got a few thrown in when buying used equipment.

Right now have two of them set up for doing close grip curls, reverse wrist curls, skull crushers.

Generally, I don't use them much.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2024, 06:24:42 AM
any sport can cause injuries, running included. I know more than a few people who have trained in martial arts & also caused wear & tear on their joints.
I knew a Girl who started TaeKwon Do at a very early age & by her early 20s had hip problems.
Look at these muscle ups people do on bars, donīt you think the joints are under extreme stress? any extreme range of motion under stress regardless if bodyweight or weights are used can injure your joints & soft structures

I wrecked my knee doing karate. 

Had a couple injuries from contact but the bad one was doing an oblique kick to a heavy bag.

I still do self-defense stuff but there is no reason to do high risk things.

After you reach a certain age I think you need to avoid certain activities.

Forget that weekend softball game type stuff.

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2024, 06:29:51 AM
I wrecked my knee doing karate. 

Had a couple injuries from contact but the bad one was doing an oblique kick to a heavy bag.
yeah i got a neck injury from Judo so now i have been training more the FMA systems & Wing tsun.
i like the Filipino systems
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: beakdoctor on March 02, 2024, 06:49:16 AM
Dumbbells are far superior
You guys know nothing

Far superior than what?

You do squats with dumbbells? Deadlifts with dumbbells?

I think peaked biceps were more common in the 60s,  70's and 80's and so were barbell curls. Seems like modern guys exclusively use dumbbells and cables for biceps and it's rare to see great biceps today as opposed to the golden era.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2024, 07:11:32 AM
After you reach a certain age I think you need to avoid certain activities.

Forget that weekend softball game type stuff.

This is where we disagree to a point.

Weekend softball only leads to injury if you're not training properly.

I probably played about 50-60 games of baseball last year across three leagues, without any injury related to age or conditioning.  I probably ran close to full speed hundreds of times, including dives, slides, jumping, etc....

I have seen guys up to a decade older than me playing hard as shit.

Does the risk of injury increase as you get older?  Without a doubt.  Do they take longer to recover - f yes, but you can mitigate and still do most things if you put in the work in a sensible manner.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: IroNat on March 02, 2024, 09:45:09 AM
This is where we disagree to a point.

Weekend softball only leads to injury if you're not training properly.

I probably played about 50-60 games of baseball last year across three leagues, without any injury related to age or conditioning.  I probably ran close to full speed hundreds of times, including dives, slides, jumping, etc....

I have seen guys up to a decade older than me playing hard as shit.

Does the risk of injury increase as you get older?  Without a doubt.  Do they take longer to recover - f yes, but you can mitigate and still do most things if you put in the work in a sensible manner.

My knee injury has affected my lifestyle quite a bit unfortunately.

Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2024, 10:03:57 AM
My knee injury has affected my lifestyle quite a bit unfortunately.

I can understand that completely.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: wes on March 02, 2024, 08:01:15 PM
Lately I have been wrapping my knees on heavier sets of leg presses.....they kill me at times.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Grape Ape on March 02, 2024, 09:21:59 PM
Lately I have been wrapping my knees on heavier sets of leg presses.....they kill me at times.

SC suggested knee sleeves to me and I have never looked back.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: wes on March 02, 2024, 09:45:25 PM
SC suggested knee sleeves to me and I have never looked back.
I was thinking about buying some..........and I think I will.

The pain is a bitch as I go to the heavier sets.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: Grape Ape on March 04, 2024, 01:35:38 PM
I was thinking about buying some..........and I think I will.

The pain is a bitch as I go to the heavier sets.

The Rocktape 5mm &  7mm on Amazon are like $30.  Those are working fine for me.  Train with the 7's, used the 5's in events.
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: MAXX on March 06, 2024, 04:01:17 PM
Title: Re: EZ Curl Bars
Post by: wes on March 06, 2024, 04:07:28 PM
The Rocktape 5mm &  7mm on Amazon are like $30.  Those are working fine for me.  Train with the 7's, used the 5's in events.
Thanks Grape....I`ll look into it.  ;)