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A message has gone viral which has been attributed to a Marine veteran, Nick Powers, who posted it on Facebook.
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#AMessagefromUStoISIS
To all you ignorant Islamic extremist f—ks. As I sit here watching you execute women, children and men in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you idiots who think you are so tough. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.
What did Saddam’s troops do when we came to town? Surrendered, twice… All your threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than you could ever understand. In 2012 there were 21.2 million veterans in the United States. Do you understand what that means? That means there are millions of pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch friends die because you Islamic idiots can’t seem to act like human beings and stop terrorism and violence.
It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days, do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember we are armed in the US and I can promise you that the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there is no mercy. The ball is in your court Islam, we are more than ready to send you to your “prophet” Mohamed….
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The Islamophiles from the UK board should take note.
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With all these PC liberal kunts in Washington it wouldn't surprise me if these soldiers were reprimanded.
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Just remember what Isoroku Yamamoto said after his attack on Pearl Harbor, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
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Eh...didnt like that last part about Islam and the prophet. Could have been done without.
I was at the 911 memorial recently and saw quite a few Arabic names. I also saw MANY brown Arabs and Bengalis there paying tribute to the fallen. Lots of Muslim Americans in NYC and they grieve just as much if not more than the rest of us Americans.
Us attacking the religion of Islam just further fuels ISIS propaganda and recruiting. We need to make allies with moderate Islam.
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A message has gone viral which has been attributed to a Marine veteran, Nick Powers, who posted it on Facebook.
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#AMessagefromUStoISIS
To all you ignorant Islamic extremist f—ks. As I sit here watching you execute women, children and men in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you idiots who think you are so tough. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.
What did Saddam’s troops do when we came to town? Surrendered, twice… All your threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than you could ever understand. In 2012 there were 21.2 million veterans in the United States. Do you understand what that means? That means there are millions of pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch friends die because you Islamic idiots can’t seem to act like human beings and stop terrorism and violence.
It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days, do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember we are armed in the US and I can promise you that the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there is no mercy. The ball is in your court Islam, we are more than ready to send you to your “prophet” Mohamed….
Recon Marines... Can't tell whether Force or Battalion... either way, bad dudes.
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Eh...didnt like that last part about Islam and the prophet. Could have been done without.
I was at the 911 memorial recently and saw quite a few Arabic names. I also saw MANY brown Arabs and Bengalis there paying tribute to the fallen. Lots of Muslim Americans in NYC and they grieve just as much if not more than the rest of us Americans.
Us attacking the religion of Islam just further fuels ISIS propaganda and recruiting. We need to make allies with moderate Islam.
Though it is hilarious that ISIS actually believes that they can come to America and invade lol. Delusional.
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Eh...didnt like that last part about Islam and the prophet. Could have been done without.
I was at the 911 memorial recently and saw quite a few Arabic names. I also saw MANY brown Arabs and Bengalis there paying tribute to the fallen. Lots of Muslim Americans in NYC and they grieve just as much if not more than the rest of us Americans.
Us attacking the religion of Islam just further fuels ISIS propaganda and recruiting. We need to make allies with moderate Islam.
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One of the main recruiters of IS sunni fighters is the shi'ite death squads going around assassinating shi'ites.
IS will never conquer anywhere but they will set off a bomb or two in western countries in the next 18 months.
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is the guy in the middle still active ???
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We are all vets in my family; my nephew fought in Fallujah at age 19 and his brother is Special Ops God knows where right now.
Love the message and the sign!
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I pray that someday all the liberals douchebags and their lawyers will fuck off and let the US military actually do their job.
Once and for all.
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This shit goes both ways people. Thats why there will never be peace. Both sides believe in what they are fighting for.
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This shit goes both ways people. Thats why there will never be peace. Both sides believe in what they are fighting for.
Except that we are right and they are wrong.
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Except that we are right and they are wrong.
They think the same way.
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Except that we are right and they are wrong.
Bingo bango.
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Except that we are right and they are wrong.
x3
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They think the same way.
that's great, except that they are termites and we are humans
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This shit goes both ways people. Thats why there will never be peace. Both sides believe in what they are fighting for.
This is no such thing as "peace" but only control.
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that's great, except that they are termites and we are humans
Shizzo, although he is annoying and is stupid, makes a good point. Its like asking, "If Gods on our side, who's on their side?" They think they are humans and the US is termites. Its a cycle that will never end. Terrorism will never stop.
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Shizzo, although he is annoying and is stupid, makes a good point. Its like asking, "If Gods on our side, who's on their side?" They think they are humans and the US is termites. Its a cycle that will never end. Terrorism will never stop.
You bring up a good point (not that I am annoying and stupid >:() but that they think the U.S. are the terrorists. They think we are the terminators with all of our technology.
Two totally different ideologies. Never will we come to an agreement.
We have been "crusading" for almost a 1,000 years now.
Nothing has changed.
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Shizzo, although he is annoying and is stupid, makes a good point. Its like asking, "If Gods on our side, who's on their side?" They think they are humans and the US is termites. Its a cycle that will never end. Terrorism will never stop.
I get it. My unbiased opinion is they are bigger dickheads than we are
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Shizzo, although he is annoying and is stupid, makes a good point. Its like asking, "If Gods on our side, who's on their side?" They think they are humans and the US is termites. Its a cycle that will never end. Terrorism will never stop.
AHHH!! the ol' " Ok boys on a knee, Lets pray for a win today " prayer by the coaching staff ;D
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You bring up a good point (not that I am annoying and stupid >:() but that they think the U.S. are the terrorists. They think we are the terminators with all of our technology.
Two totally different ideologies. Never will we come to an agreement.
We have been "crusading" for almost a 1,000 years now.
Nothing has changed.
In a fight or war, there are always 2 sides to every story. I am not justifying ISIS. But I do wonder what has America done to their people for them to hate us so much. They didn't just wake up one day and decide to hate us. What's America's role in it? We are obviously not 100% innocent.
Disclaimer: I am NOT justifying ISIS behavior.
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AHHH!! the ol' Lets pray for a win today prayer by the coaching staff ;D
You gotta love when idiot coaches thanks God for their win. Like, even if there is God, he is picking sport sides. Petty crap. Why even waste a prayer on such a trivial shit (sports)? ::) ::)
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In a fight or war, there are always 2 sides to every story. I am not justifying ISIS. But I do wonder what has America done to their people for them to hate us so much. They didn't just wake up one day and decide to hate us. What's America's role in it? We are obviously not 100% innocent.
Disclaimer: I am NOT justifying ISIS behavior.
The hell you're not. You piece of shit.
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What ISIS is doing, christians have done years and years ago when they slaughtered everyone who was not christian or refused to convert to Christianity.
Frankly I think religion is the cause of lots of wars and lots of killing.
ISIS are dreaming coming to the White House, however, let's hope they don't carry any killings in the states or where ever.
Those fuckers are messed up, their will is to die fighting so they can go to heaven and get their 72 virgins and rivers of milk and honey.
I say no need for that, we've got plenty of women here on earth, milk and honey are widely available and not that expensive.
The best thing the US can do right now is to send these people some virgins and loads of milk and honey.
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Are you trying to "help us to see the world through their eyes" you piece of shit? Are you an Isis apologist?
No, I say we bomb them into oblivion. You can't argue that they seem to be fighting for something though.
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Are you trying to "help us to see the world through their eyes" you piece of shit? Are you an Isis apologist?
This is a discussion, take it easy Betsy.
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In a fight or war, there are always 2 sides to every story. I am not justifying ISIS. But I do wonder what has America done to their people for them to hate us so much. They didn't just wake up one day and decide to hate us. What's America's role in it? We are obviously not 100% innocent.
Disclaimer: I am NOT justifying ISIS behavior.
I don't think it has much to do with us. They want to impose their barbaric ways on the region in the name of their God.
We are simply an obstacle to that end.
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I don't think it has much to do with us. They want to impose their barbaric ways on the region in the name of their God.
We are simply an obstacle to that end.
Except they consider that land "home" and we are the invaders.
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Except they consider that land "home" and we are the invaders.
Don't push this. Your identity is public information. Do you want to be known as a traitor?
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Don't push this. Your identity is public information. Do you want to be known as a traitor?
Calm down. I already said we should carpet bomb the whole region.
They cut off 2 heads publicly, we kill 2 million.
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In a fight or war, there are always 2 sides to every story. I am not justifying ISIS. But I do wonder what has America done to their people for them to hate us so much. They didn't just wake up one day and decide to hate us. What's America's role in it? We are obviously not 100% innocent.
Disclaimer: I am NOT justifying ISIS behavior.
Actually they did. It's been pretty consistent throughout Muslim history. They hate us because we are not them. They hate everybody who are not them.
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I get it. My unbiased opinion is they are bigger dickheads than we are
I wont argue with that :D :D
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What ISIS is doing, christians have done years and years ago when they slaughtered everyone who was not christian or refused to convert to Christianity.
Frankly I think religion is the cause of lots of wars and lots of killing.
ISIS are dreaming coming to the White House, however, let's hope they don't carry any killings in the states or where ever.
Those fuckers are messed up, their will is to die fighting so they can go to heaven and get their 72 virgins and rivers of milk and honey.
I say no need for that, we've got plenty of women here on earth, milk and honey are widely available and not that expensive.
The best thing the US can do right now is to send these people some virgins and loads of milk and honey.
That was a thousand years ago. Christians evolved. Muslims have not.
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Shizzo, although he is annoying and is stupid, makes a good point. Its like asking, "If Gods on our side, who's on their side?" They think they are humans and the US is termites. Its a cycle that will never end. Terrorism will never stop.
At this point, were not exterminating all those who follow a different religion. So i think that kind of gives us the moral high ground. :D
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I don't think it has much to do with us. They want to impose their barbaric ways on the region in the name of their God.
We are simply an obstacle to that end.
Hmmm. I have not followed much about the conflict between Muslims and the US. Just from what I hear on the news. Maybe Ill look more into it.
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In a fight or war, there are always 2 sides to every story. I am not justifying ISIS. But I do wonder what has America done to their people for them to hate us so much. They didn't just wake up one day and decide to hate us. What's America's role in it? We are obviously not 100% innocent.
Disclaimer: I am NOT justifying ISIS behavior.
We (US) will always be hated for supporting and arming Israel (great satan 1 and 2). There are a plethora of other issues they have with us, however, that will always fester like an infected wound.
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At this point, were not exterminating all those who follow a different religion. So i think that kind of gives us the moral high ground. :D
Agreed. I am not saying they are moral than us. Was just trying to examine the long conflict and how different countries may have contributed to all this crap.
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I think you need to delete your Isis sympathizer comments.
Learn to read. I do not side with them. We are far too nice to them.
Terror should be fought with terror x's 10. They cut 2 heads off, we just drop bombs on every building for days straight.
They wouldn't be doing shit if they were wandering the bare desert like Moses.
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We (US) will always be hated for supporting and arming Israel (great satan one and 2). There are a plethora of other issues they have with us, however, that will always fester like an infected wound.
Yeah, good point. Seems like our support of Israel is something they do not like very much!
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Learn to read. I do not side with them. We are far too nice to them.
Terror should be fought with terror x's 10. They cut 2 heads off, we just drop bombs on every building for days straight.
They wouldn't be doing shit if they were wondering the bare desert like Moses.
Why don't you stick to unloading boxes from trucks you piece of shit.
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Why don't you stick to unloading boxes from trucks you piece of shit.
You sound angry.
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I have no aspirations to a "moral high ground", I have aspirations of victory. Period.
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With all these PC liberal kunts in Washington it wouldn't surprise me if these soldiers were reprimanded.
Watch you mouth - Marines not soldiers
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Eh...didnt like that last part about Islam and the prophet. Could have been done without.
I was at the 911 memorial recently and saw quite a few Arabic names. I also saw MANY brown Arabs and Bengalis there paying tribute to the fallen. Lots of Muslim Americans in NYC and they grieve just as much if not more than the rest of us Americans.
Us attacking the religion of Islam just further fuels ISIS propaganda and recruiting. We need to make allies with moderate Islam.
Fuck Islam and the prophet!
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Watch you mouth - Marines not soldiers
Ooh Rah......
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Watch you mouth - Marines not soldiers
No one gives a shit what you want to call yourself.
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Fuck Islam and the prophet!
That's why the most important part of your job is keeping your mouth shut and following orders. You're a nincompoop.
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With all these PC liberal kunts in Washington it wouldn't surprise me if these soldiers were reprimanded.
Wouldn`t surprise me if they did get reprimanded. The left is slowly castrating the US, very sad....
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Can you guys imagine this happening just 30 years ago when Reagan was in? How about this, can you imagine this happening back in the ww2 years. This great country has become complacent and weak in how we deal with our enemies. I wish we had the men in all powers that be in charge, the likes of those days that saw a spade for a spade and cut no corners took no s.h.it and dam.n all that stand in the way. The dogs of war would be released and anyone in the way would perish. That is how you exterminate your enemies. If they hide among the innocent so be it. It's time the whole world joined against the Muslim tucks and kill them all in any part of the world. Put out a bounty on them. It would be over in a few months.
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A message has gone viral which has been attributed to a Marine veteran, Nick Powers, who posted it on Facebook.
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#AMessagefromUStoISIS
To all you ignorant Islamic extremist f—ks. As I sit here watching you execute women, children and men in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you idiots who think you are so tough. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.
What did Saddam’s troops do when we came to town? Surrendered, twice… All your threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than you could ever understand. In 2012 there were 21.2 million veterans in the United States. Do you understand what that means? That means there are millions of pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch friends die because you Islamic idiots can’t seem to act like human beings and stop terrorism and violence.
It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days, do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember we are armed in the US and I can promise you that the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there is no mercy. The ball is in your court Islam, we are more than ready to send you to your “prophet” Mohamed….
That's great, but these are radical extremists, they don't give a shit if they die taking innocent victims with them. Need to wipe them out in Syria and Iraq before they can wreak havoc, in the U.S. and the rest of the world. I am sure they are here already.
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Huzzah for our Marines.
This Islam crap and their filthy eastern ways are pretty why we should have a separation of church and state, i.e., no official religion. If not we end up with what Muslims call a separation of head and shoulders.
Screw Islam and its proponents. And that includes libtards who just want to get along with the filth of the world.
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stupid Whore
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Honestly, those fuckers dont give a fuck if they kill women and children. I say we turn the entire middle east into a fucking parking lot, and make it The United States of the Middle East. make it Dubai II. Add some casinos, water parks and weed.
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Honestly, those fuckers dont give a fuck if they kill women and children. I say we turn the entire middle east into a fucking parking lot, and make it The United States of the Middle East. make it Dubai II. Add some casinos, water parks and weed.
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Honestly, those fuckers dont give a fuck if they kill women and children. I say we turn the entire middle east into a fucking parking lot, and make it The United States of the Middle East. make it Dubai II. Add some casinos, water parks and weed.
I agree. This sounds harsh, but the proper response would be to turn the entire area into glass.. kill everything including the cockroaches. If they pop up somewhere else, reduce that region to dust and rubble. That way there would be an understanding that if a population allows these scum into their region, we will be coming in and not only will we destroy the terrorists, we will kill EVERYTHING grandparents, women children pets plants..everything. That will create a paradigm change. I'm sure of it. Next time these "freedom fighters" show their faces in a new place they'll get run out of town by a population that now understands that extinction of their blood line is right around the corner.
You dont fight terrorism with diplomacy, what the fuck is this shit?
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At some point, much greater efforts must be made to "tame" the Muslim faithful, all over the globe.
In my country, Canada, we have mosques here, there and everywhere ... At the very least we should be VERY closely monitoring the in-class sessions at Islamic centres and the happenings in their mosques. If they object, tough beans.
If it were up to me, I'd outlaw Islam entirely. And all this shit in the middle east, etc.? Yep, massive bombardment until the region is begging for forgiveness.
One more thing. These communities in London, Paris, etc. where Muslims claim ownership and Sharia law ... Enter with military might and occupy until the horseshit ceases. How DARE this filth think their ways are now how it's gonna be?!
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we won't do anyting
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we won't do anyting
Yep. The weakness disgusts me.
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we won't do anyting
Annoying evil bogeymen serve a purpose. These extremist oppose a a different world, particularly globalization. Just like our extreme right wing folk. Have you ever notice that many have the same views and look---long beard, very conservative views on politics and women. Except our conservative right wing folk haven't (yet) started wars in or around their own countries, and declared war on "The West".
These middle eastern "bogeymen" serve a purpose of helping politicians and companies by disgusting the public and giving them a reason to keep pushing for the globalist agenda. Both sides help push the us vs them agenda. And along the way, let's hijack God as well. People prosper over these tragedies, it's just not the general public or the extreme Islamists who oppose the West who are the ones who prosper. Also, for opposing the West, these extremists sure do use a ton of Western technology, editing, and weapons.
The problem is, as long as you have disillusioned, disenfranchised, and yes highly radicalized, extremist Islamist, you are going to have the problem.
Maybe they should take the Henry Rollins theory and instead of bombing them, build a ton of fast food joints just to keep them on the couches, while watching reruns. Imagine all those folks happy off of fast food, sodas and farting into their couches...It can work. According to Henry Rollins it has worked over here.
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They think the same way.
well any fucken idiot can kill children and think they are right, what the fuck is your point?
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Need to go Pershing Pig Blood execution on them, even if it is a fable. :-\
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At some point, much greater efforts must be made to "tame" the Muslim faithful, all over the globe.
In my country, Canada, we have mosques here, there and everywhere ... At the very least we should be VERY closely monitoring the in-class sessions at Islamic centres and the happenings in their mosques. If they object, tough beans.
If it were up to me, I'd outlaw Islam entirely. And all this shit in the middle east, etc.? Yep, massive bombardment until the region is begging for forgiveness.
One more thing. These communities in London, Paris, etc. where Muslims claim ownership and Sharia law ... Enter with military might and occupy until the horseshit ceases. How DARE this filth think their ways are now how it's gonna be?!
no offence but your tactics on what you would do would plunge us into world war 3 and millions more innocent children would die, you do realize there are well over a billion Muslim globally. BTW that region would never bag or for forgiveness they would rather die and take as many with them as possible, the radicals can not be tamed
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They think the same way.
What the fuck do you know ya worthless fat fuck?? We don't chop peoples fucking heads off you ignorant fat ass. You evidently never served - which is fucking pathetic. You shouldn't talk about shit you don't understand. So unless the conversation turns to buffets or chocolate cake try to be a good fatty and keep your cum catcher closed. Jesus - it's demoralizing to realize that I gave you the right to live by protecting your fat ass.. Because were it not for me and those like me - you wouldn't be able to eat that delicious pork that you love so much and you might actually have had that bobble head chopped off
You can say anything back you want - because you and I both know that you thank God for men like me
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No one gives a shit what you want to call yourself.
Lol - yes you do you silly pussy...
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That's why the most important part of your job is keeping your mouth shut and following orders. You're a nincompoop.
Lol - I graduated from Quantico decades ago - and my team and I didn't really "shut up and take orders" - more like "pointed in the right direction and told to Sic Em"
Marines have saved this world for centuries...
Pussies like you love to chat tough anonymously - but I would readily bitch slap you in your mothers house and you wouldn't do a god damn thing boy.
So - come back with some internet pussy talk and feel tough. And deep inside hate yourself for being weak. It is why you have a shit life man - buck up and be a man. You don't have to be a puss. Anyone can toughen up brother. PM me and I will try to give you some guidance
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no offence but your tactics on what you would do would plunge us into world war 3 and millions more innocent children would die, you do realize there are well over a billion Muslim globally. BTW that region would never bag or for forgiveness they would rather die and take as many with them as possible, the radicals can not be tamed
So if these buttwipes were white and Nazi would it be just fine and dandy with you to carpet bomb them and their pussy-whipped "civilian" cohorts until they were either dead and gone or surrendered and became civilized?
We did it with the Nuzis and Nipponese and it worked. OH WAIT! They were already far more civilized than these turban toting turds will ever be. Want to surrender to Islam? Go right ahead. They will still take your head and more from you.
That makes as much sense as the guy that bends over in front of Pinocchio and begs him to start lying. Real men don't die for their freedom, they kill the bastards that are trying to take it from them.
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STFU YOU STUPID FUCK, of course take it to them you fuck head, just don't bomb the shit out of cities killing innocent children you fucken savage
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no offence but your tactics on what you would do would plunge us into world war 3 and millions more innocent children would die, you do realize there are well over a billion Muslim globally. BTW that region would never bag or for forgiveness they would rather die and take as many with them as possible, the radicals can not be tamed
Seven billion of us ... a lot are gonna have to die, eventually. Men, women, KIDS ... Doesn't matter.
OK, so they would never beg for forgiveness. What difference does it make? Blow 'em to pieces. They WILL do this to us if they ever have nuclear weapons.
Religion is truly the means to our eventual end.
Having said this, Islam is pure intolerant and cancerous nonsense.
I admit I am extreme in my views. But I also see what's coming if we don't act NOW.
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STFU YOU STUPID FUCK, of course take it to them you fuck head, just don't bomb the shit out of cities killing innocent children you fucken savage
Worked with the Germans and Japanese. But again, it was okay to actually fight to win a war. Now you have to win public opinion. The public is for the greater part pussified.
You savage, you.
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Seven billion of us ... a lot are gonna have to die, eventually. Men, women, KIDS ... Doesn't matter.
OK, so they would never beg for forgiveness. What difference does it make? Blow 'em to pieces. They WILL do this to us if they ever have nuclear weapons.
Religion is truly the means to our eventual end.
Having said this, Islam is pure intolerant and cancerous nonsense.
I admit I am extreme in my views. But I also see what's coming if we don't act NOW.
I am with you on your view more or less but dropping bombs on civilians is not an option
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well any fucken idiot can kill children and think they are right, what the fuck is your point?
If you were born and raised in the middle east (as a muslim) you might have a different point of view towards the U.S.
It's not very hard to think of the opposite scenario.
P.S. I fucking hate radical, muslim extremists.
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Worked with the Germans and Japanese. But again, it was okay to actually fight to win a war. Now you have to win public opinion. The public is for the greater part pussified.
You savage, you.
when you drop a nuke, there will be children on the outskirts with melted skin, broken bones and suffocating under concrete rubble for 48 hours before they die you fucken animal
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If you were born and raised in the middle east (as a muslim) you might have a different point of view towards the U.S.
It's not very hard to think of the opposite scenario.
P.S. I fucking hate radical, muslim extremists.
well in any altercation in life both side feel they are right, its common sense but mentioning it is like saying '' ya they have a point"
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when you drop a nuke, there will be children on the outskirts with melted skin, broken bones and suffocating under concrete rubble for 48 hours before they die you fucken animal
I said carpet bomb, not nuke. I suppose you took it upon yourself to think, "Oh! Since the US nuked Japan, the Scott must mean nuke the Muslim menace!"
Carpet bomb them like the brown Nazis they are until they either surrender to civilization or die. Or we can do it your way. We surrender. If they were white, you would most likely be in favor of their demise. Or am as incorrect as you were in your assumption?
Let them take your family first, kiddo. See how much you love the Brown Skin (not "Shirt") Nazis after they have their way with those you love. What do you propose, young man? A million muslim march on Washington to show solidarity with the Koran wavers? I really don't think you are this stupid and are simply playing Mohammed's advocate here.}
Or not. Your choice. I choose freedom.
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STFU YOU STUPID FUCK, of course take it to them you fuck head, just don't bomb the shit out of cities killing innocent children you fucken savage
They often purposely put children at risk. My nephew was in some heavy fighting in Fallujah and he told me some of the kids they gave water and candy to during the day were firing mortars at them at night. They don't view children the way that we do just look at where Hamas fires from and hides weapons.
Look at the American death toll in Afghanistan since Obama took office and changed the rules of engagement.
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They often purposely put children at risk. My nephew was in some heavy fighting in Fallujah and he told me some of the kids they gave water and candy to during the day were firing mortars at them at night. They don't view children the way that we do just look at where Hamas fires from and hides weapons.
Look at the American death toll in Afghanistan since Obama took office and changed the rules of engagement.
Yes.
I admire OTHs moral grandstanding but his beliefs on war are rooted in the best of ideology....
He also believes we shouldnt have dropped the bombs on Japan (because it indiscriminately killed civilians and children), even though it saved untold millions more lives than it ended...
As i said, i admire his ideological purity, but its a naiive outlook on warfare, ezpecially modern warfare against religious zealots.
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Yes.
I admire OTHs moral grandstanding but his beliefs on war are rooted in the best of ideology....
He also believes we shouldnt have dropped the bombs on Japan (because it indiscriminately killed civilians and children), even though it saved untold millions more lives than it ended...
As i said, i admire his ideological purity, but its a naiive outlook on warfare, ezpecially modern warfare against religious zealots.
The enemy knows your rules of engagement and if they know you can't fire into a civilian population than they will use the civilian population as a shield. In Somalia (Blackhawk Down) they held children and babies while firing on American soldiers. Missions to capture and kill terrorists are abandoned as soon as children are seen.
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I am with you on your view more or less but dropping bombs on civilians is not an option
in this case it is. and a valid one. Do you have a better idea? They are embedded and using women and children as human shields and we have no choice. War is atrocious it is downright disgusting what happens but when you are in it you have to do those things. Innocents will die and lots of them... ISIS is slaughtering innocents by the thousands and taunting us at the same time.
I Just dont see a way around it if we truly want to put an end to it. Yes there will be regret and pain, tons of it... but then it would be over. Those innocent women and children may not be as innocent as you think and have family fighting for the terrorists and support the cause. It is an unfortunate situation, very sad. But it is war and we being the superior military power need to crush this and crush it completely.
Militarily, America cannot be fucked with, even if the rest of the world came together, they cant match our military might. we should cut our losses and make these guys to respect us.. they dont need to like us and have made it clear that they will kill our women and children every chance they get, we need to do the exact same thing and shut them up forever. This is disgusting. An innocent American reporter has been decapitated and the video is up for everyone to see and still we do nothing. Level the whole fucking country yesterday. Ask questions later.
Makes my heart bleed.
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Just send Dolph Lundrgen into the Middle East.
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Maybe include these badasses
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Yes.
I admire OTHs moral grandstanding but his beliefs on war are rooted in the best of ideology....
He also believes we shouldnt have dropped the bombs on Japan (because it indiscriminately killed civilians and children), even though it saved untold millions more lives than it ended...
As i said, i admire his ideological purity, but its a naiive outlook on warfare, ezpecially modern warfare against religious zealots.
I can compromise my ideology as far accepting Hiroshima but we are not at war at the moment and whoever thinks in this day and more specifically right now its OK to savagely drop nukes at cities in the middle east is 1 million times the terrorist then the ones who did 911
Are you fucken kidding me? You are accepting dropping nukes on whole cities in populated areas with woman and children? ... and claiming nothing barbaric :o
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I can compromise my ideology as far accepting Hiroshima but we are not at war at the moment and whoever thinks in this day and more specifically right now its OK to savagely drop nukes at cities is the middle east is 1 million times the terrorist then the ones who did 911
Are you fucken kidding me? You are accepting dropping nukes on whole cities in populated areas with woman and children? ... and claiming nothing barbaric :o
I agree with you OTH. It would be barbaric to nuke whole cities. I mean, innocent children and women will die in war. That is unavoidable. It stinks. But to drop a nuke, knowing that millions of innocent people will die is going too far. We are not at that stage and I hope we never are.
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in this case it is. and a valid one. Do you have a better idea? They are embedded and using women and children as human shields and we have no choice. War is atrocious it is downright disgusting what happens but when you are in it you have to do those things. Innocents will die and lots of them... ISIS is slaughtering innocents by the thousands and taunting us at the same time.
I Just dont see a way around it if we truly want to put an end to it. Yes there will be regret and pain, tons of it... but then it would be over. Those innocent women and children may not be as innocent as you think and have family fighting for the terrorists and support the cause. It is an unfortunate situation, very sad. But it is war and we being the superior military power need to crush this and crush it completely.
Militarily, America cannot be fucked with, even if the rest of the world came together, they cant match our military might. we should cut our losses and make these guys to respect us.. they dont need to like us and have made it clear that they will kill our women and children every chance they get, we need to do the exact same thing and shut them up forever. This is disgusting. An innocent American reporter has been decapitated and the video is up for everyone to see and still we do nothing. Level the whole fucking country yesterday. Ask questions later.
Makes my heart bleed.
yes I do have a better idea
send in all the troops, find out where the radicals are and hit them with bombs and yes civilians will die surrounding the intended targets, if they are in the way then fine, kill civilians but do not deliberately blow up cities, that is the pussy thing to do. Real men fight with other real men.
Your idea is not war it is slaughter.
Do what we did in Normandy and clean fucken house. That is a solution right there, but no, we are too much of pussies to see our soldiers die, we rather nuke cities. The real men in Normandy were willing to die before they even hit the ground in their parachutes.
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Massive, non-stop B-52 strikes are in order.
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I agree with you OTH. It would be barbaric to nuke whole cities. I mean, innocent children and women will die in war. That is unavoidable. It stinks. But to drop a nuke, knowing that millions of innocent people will die is going too far. We are not at that stage and I hope we never are.
this^^^
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I can compromise my ideology as far accepting Hiroshima but we are not at war at the moment and whoever thinks in this day and more specifically right now its OK to savagely drop nukes at cities in the middle east is 1 million times the terrorist then the ones who did 911
Are you fucken kidding me? You are accepting dropping nukes on whole cities in populated areas with woman and children? ... and claiming nothing barbaric :o
Never said i agreed with nuking.the middle east...
Just that its not black and white with these guys when the kids are trying to kill you.
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Never said i agreed with nuking.the middle east...
Just that its not black and white with these guys when the kids are trying to kill you.
It definitely makes it more difficult, considering sometimes these kids may have bombs strapped to them.
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send in all the troops, find out where the radicals are and hit them with bombs and yes civilians will die surrounding the intended targets, if they are in the way then fine, kill civilians but do not deliberately blow up cities, that is the pussy thing to do. Real men fight with other real men.
This was exactly my point which is now a flaw in the rules of engagement. In no way are we in a position where nuclear weapons are needed especially since the introduction of drones. We now need to go through a chain of command if we see someone in civilian dress burying an ied or shooting from villages. There is a YT vid showing a military vehicle being blown up because they would not approve killing the so called civilian burying the bomb.
We've already gone around in circles on ww2 and Japan but suffice it to say it was estimated the invading Allies would suffer between 1.7 and 4 million casualties in such a scenario, of whom between 400,000 and 800,000 would be dead, while Japanese casualties would have been around 5 to 10 million. The targets were certainly military and port targets but I won't write a book.
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Never said i agreed with nuking.the middle east...
Just that its not black and white with these guys when the kids are trying to kill you.
that is what we are discussing, people say just nuke that entire region, ironically that would make us worse then the terrorist themselves
kids or not, kill anyone who is trying to kill you but don't kill who is not involved intentionally
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This was exactly my point which is now a flaw in the rules of engagement. In no way are we in a position where nuclear weapons are needed especially since the introduction of drones. We now need to go through a chain of command if we see someone in civilian dress burying an ied or shooting from villages. There is a YT vid showing a military vehicle being blown up because they would not approve killing the so called civilian burying the bomb.
We've already gone around in circles on ww2 and Japan but suffice it to say it was estimated the invading Allies would suffer between 1.7 and 4 million casualties in such a scenario, of whom between 400,000 and 800,000 would be dead, while Japanese casualties would have been around 5 to 10 million. The targets were certainly military and port targets but I won't write a book.
what a shame, can't kill a guy burying a bomb, wtf
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what a shame, can't kill a guy burying a bomb, wtf
Its absolutely true. In haditha, iraq, a tea! Of Marines watched a bomb maker blow up other Marines day after day, but couldn't get the approval to go in and take him out. After enough Marines died, they freaked out and went roque, killing everyone in the bombers house, women, children, kicked the cat and punted the dog....
They're all in jail for murder now. This guy blew up dozens of Marines and when they finally took matter into their own hands, shit gotnout of control and all of their lives are ruined.
The ROE is bullshit, politicians are ruining our ability to wage war, they don't want to win, they want PR stunts to get them re elected with no blood or actual violence.
It winds up getting more people killed... If they just let us fight, we know right from wrong, were not going to rape and murder innocents... But making us right with one hand tied to our balls makes warfighters crazy, and they do wind up doing crazy things in order to survive the insanity that is the modern "PC" battlefield where politicians dictate when it is and isn't acceptable to kill someone who is trying to kill you.
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what a shame, can't kill a guy burying a bomb, wtf
It's criminal and why we have a high US death toll in Afghanistan and are always bogged down. My UK military brothers have had to deal with the same BS. No US/UK soldier wants to kill a civilian in the first place, however, we can't hand the enemy an advantage. Once we show we will shoot though they abandon the strategy or use it as propaganda. Propaganda is easily refuted since we record many battles/bomb drops with drones and planes.
Another example of political correctness.
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Its absolutely true. In haditha, iraq, a tea! Of Marines watched a bomb maker blow up other Marines day after day, but couldn't get the approval to go in and take him out. After enough Marines died, they freaked out and went roque, killing everyone in the bombers house, women, children, kicked the cat and punted the dog....
They're all in jail for murder now. This guy blew up dozens of Marines and when they finally took matter into their own hands, shit gotnout of control and all of their lives are ruined.
The ROE is bullshit, politicians are ruining our ability to wage war, they don't want to win, they want PR stunts to get them re elected with no blood or actual violence.
It winds up getting more people killed... If they just let us fight, we know right from wrong, were not going to rape and murder innocents... But making us right with one hand tied to our balls makes warfighters crazy, and they do wind up doing crazy things in order to survive the insanity that is the modern "PC" battlefield where politicians dictate when it is and isn't acceptable to kill someone who is trying to kill you.
PC culture infects everything. You cannot have a war (meaning dead bodies) without human casualities, without blood. And since pics and video go viral now, there is the war of images---war has and always will be ugly. What PC culture does is try to distill the "bad" part of war, when you cannot. And then the politicians want to either seem victorious, but at the same time understanding and empathic to the other side. When you are trying to kill someone or they are trying to kill you, the time for being nice and politically correct has passed.
I agree with your post.
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I agree as well, can not win and be politically correct, not possible.
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I salute the brave men and women in uniform. I hope our evil, corrupt government let's them fight (for real this time) against the disgusting subhuman desert filth attempting to provoke us.
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Some here have the testicular fortitude of eunuchs. You are either at war to win or at the end of your rope and hanging yourself.
I don't pity those that castrate themselves in the name of political correctness. Screw that.
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yes I do have a better idea
send in all the troops, find out where the radicals are and hit them with bombs and yes civilians will die surrounding the intended targets, if they are in the way then fine, kill civilians but do not deliberately blow up cities, that is the pussy thing to do. Real men fight with other real men.
Your idea is not war it is slaughter.
Do what we did in Normandy and clean fucken house. That is a solution right there, but no, we are too much of pussies to see our soldiers die, we rather nuke cities. The real men in Normandy were willing to die before they even hit the ground in their parachutes.
I disagree with putting even one more American life in danger. These guys are not fighting fair. Like I said earlier and I admit its dastardly. Level the area where the drones show them to be without regard for collateral. Rinse repeat till everything is dead. Staying alive is not being a pussy.Fucking with a superior nation and hiding behind women and children is. You dont fuck with a superior military power and if you are an indigenous population , You best not let those terrorist into your country. If they are homegrown then the whole country is an acceptable target.
We can send the troops in after the bombing is done to exterminate whatever enemy fighters are left.
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I disagree with putting even one more American life in danger. These guys are not fighting fair. Like I said earlier and I admit its dastardly. Level the area where the drones show them to be without regard for collateral. Rinse repeat till everything is dead. Staying alive is not being a pussy.Fucking with a superior nation and hiding behind women and children is. You dont fuck with a superior military power and if you are an indigenous population , You best not let those terrorist into your country. If they are homegrown then the whole country is an acceptable target.
We can send the troops in after the bombing is done to exterminate whatever enemy fighters are left.
Vietnam. Look it up. ::)
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I disagree with putting even one more American life in danger. These guys are not fighting fair. Like I said earlier and I admit its dastardly. Level the area where the drones show them to be without regard for collateral. Rinse repeat till everything is dead. Staying alive is not being a pussy.Fucking with a superior nation and hiding behind women and children is. You dont fuck with a superior military power and if you are an indigenous population , You best not let those terrorist into your country. If they are homegrown then the whole country is an acceptable target.
We can send the troops in after the bombing is done to exterminate whatever enemy fighters are left.
idiot ::)
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There's no reasoning with these people. One little invading & occupying force moves into their country and they turn immediately to violence. They've proved they're not a peaceful people like we are. Lets kill them.
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Saddam would never let those animals put their foot on iraqs land....just sayisure he was a evil dictator but im sure thwy had it better under his rule and i dont see thisnending anywheresoon. The afghanwas was supposed to go quick and here we are 13 year later still fighting these animals (yes we, my swedish militaryfriend lostchis leg 3-4 years ago or so )
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War is not political. War is brutal.
Collateral damage is almost necessary at this point.
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Yes.
I admire OTHs moral grandstanding but his beliefs on war are rooted in the best of ideology....
He also believes we shouldnt have dropped the bombs on Japan (because it indiscriminately killed civilians and children), even though it saved untold millions more lives than it ended...
As i said, i admire his ideological purity, but its a naiive outlook on warfare, ezpecially modern warfare against religious zealots.
i used to think like that to, until i started to read me up on this , the war would habe lasted a long time more and alot of civiliana would habe been killed before the japs would habe surrender. They where mercyfull when they sweeped the villages and citys and a lot of soldiers would habe been dead to. Did more die by the abombs them it woulf have without? I dont know but i think so
I no how oth thinks, difference btw civilians and soldiers but as i said the japs where mercifull
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War is not political. War is brutal.
Collateral damage is almost necessary at this point.
lol atcthe first part of cource its often political are you kiddong with me?
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lol atcthe first part of cource its often political are you kiddong with me?
The way war is carried out should not be political.
War is supposed to be an endgame. Death is the end. There comes a point where you should just kill.
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idiot ::)
Thanks. You would feel differently if it was your son or brother being beheaded. It is the sanctimonious thinking and better than thou attitudes of people like you that is allowing this pestilence to spread. You do not understand how to combat pure unadulterated evil and so I can't blame you for thinking and feeling the way you do.
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War is not political. War is brutal.
Collateral damage is almost necessary at this point.
wrong, war is political always and it has to be, you can not take politics away from war or it will result in 10 time the chaos, however extreme politics is complete horseshit.
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Thanks. You would feel differently if it was your son or brother being beheaded. It is the sanctimonious thinking and better than thou attitudes of people like you that is allowing this pestilence to spread. You do not understand how to combat pure unadulterated evil and so I can't blame you for thinking and feeling the way you do.
and you would feel differently if it was your son under the nuke
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A message has gone viral which has been attributed to a Marine veteran, Nick Powers, who posted it on Facebook.
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To all you ignorant Islamic extremist f—ks. As I sit here watching you execute women, children and men in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you idiots who think you are so tough. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.
What did Saddam’s troops do when we came to town? Surrendered, twice… All your threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than you could ever understand. In 2012 there were 21.2 million veterans in the United States. Do you understand what that means? That means there are millions of pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch friends die because you Islamic idiots can’t seem to act like human beings and stop terrorism and violence.
It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days, do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember we are armed in the US and I can promise you that the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there is no mercy. The ball is in your court Islam, we are more than ready to send you to your “prophet” Mohamed….
Just one more reason, I'm proud to have been an active duty, enlisted marine. Oooh rah jarheads ;)
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and you would feel differently if it was your son under the nuke
West Point graduates have accounted for a higher percentage of U.S. military combat deaths in the post-9/11 war on terrorism than in all but one major American conflict since the academy’s founding in 1802.
Between this fact and my permanently maimed nephew I can address this. If we are going to fight then we have to fight on even ground with the enemy. Rules of engagement need to change and we need to stop vilifying soldiers sent to do a job. If I lost a family member it would simply strengthen my resolve to beat down the enemy and piss on their graves.
US soldiers are not trained to be political we are trained to defeat and enemy plain and simple.
My nephew at age 19. A getbigger through and through.
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Just one more reason, I'm proud to have been an active duty, enlisted marine. Oooh rah jarheads ;)
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Ooh Rah Marine............
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and you would feel differently if it was your son under the nuke
You're part of the problem. Save your bleeding heart faggotry for the classroom.
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Thanks. You would feel differently if it was your son or brother being beheaded. It is the sanctimonious thinking and better than thou attitudes of people like you that is allowing this pestilence to spread. You do not understand how to combat pure unadulterated evil and so I can't blame you for thinking and feeling the way you do.
As i said, his idealogical purity is respectable...
But hes naiive to think you can win wars while believing as he does.
Wars take a cold precise logical thinking to ensure minimal friendly casualties while ensuring the comolete destruction of your foe.
A certain amount of humanity has to be present, you want to avoid killing innocents whenever possible...
But the bottom line is your people are more important than the enemies friendlies/noncombatants. You have to place your unit, your country, and your allies above the livelyhood of your enemies innocents, or you will lose. Period. If you start making judgement calls that cost you the lives of your men because youre putting the lives of their innocents ahead of your own troops, youve lost.
Because theyll use them against you. And now youve given away a deadly advantage to the enemy.
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As i said, his idealogical purity is respectable...
But hes naiive to think you can win wars while believing as he does.
Wars take a cold precise logical thinking to ensure minimal friendly casualties while ensuring the comolete destruction of your foe.
A certain amount of humanity has to be present, you want to avoid killing innocents whenever possible...
But the bottom line is your people are more important than the enemies friendlies/noncombatants. You have to place your unit, your country, and your allies above the livelyhood of your enemies innocents, or you will lose. Period. If you start making judgement calls that cost you the lives of your men because youre putting the lives of their innocents ahead of your own troops, youve lost.
Because theyll use them against you. And now youve given away a deadly advantage to the enemy.
epic post
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I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. - General Sherman
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Thanks. You would feel differently if it was your son or brother being beheaded. It is the sanctimonious thinking and better than thou attitudes of people like you that is allowing this pestilence to spread. You do not understand how to combat pure unadulterated evil and so I can't blame you for thinking and feeling the way you do.
shocks post was good...but the answer is simple....u kill them. These people aren't rational. You step on the neck until they're done.
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West Point graduates have accounted for a higher percentage of U.S. military combat deaths in the post-9/11 war on terrorism than in all but one major American conflict since the academy’s founding in 1802.
Between this fact and my permanently maimed nephew I can address this. If we are going to fight then we have to fight on even ground with the enemy. Rules of engagement need to change and we need to stop vilifying soldiers sent to do a job. If I lost a family member it would simply strengthen my resolve to beat down the enemy and piss on their graves.
US soldiers are not trained to be political we are trained to defeat and enemy plain and simple.
My nephew at age 19. A getbigger through and through.
I agree entirely
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You're part of the problem. Save your bleeding heart faggotry for the classroom.
oh you rebel you, lmao certified badass over here :D
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As i said, his idealogical purity is respectable...
But hes naiive to think you can win wars while believing as he does.
Wars take a cold precise logical thinking to ensure minimal friendly casualties while ensuring the comolete destruction of your foe.
A certain amount of humanity has to be present, you want to avoid killing innocents whenever possible...
But the bottom line is your people are more important than the enemies friendlies/noncombatants. You have to place your unit, your country, and your allies above the livelyhood of your enemies innocents, or you will lose. Period. If you start making judgement calls that cost you the lives of your men because youre putting the lives of their innocents ahead of your own troops, youve lost.
Because theyll use them against you. And now youve given away a deadly advantage to the enemy.
well no shit sherlock
you guys are a bunch of morons, lmao, I am naive because I don't want to use 50 nukes on a region, seriously dude are you sane. I am against politics to the disgraceful degree they are represented and collateral damage is a fucken must 100 times more then it is now and like WW said in his post rules of engagement need to change, fuck ya they do, let the soldier do their job, so WTF IS THIS NAIVE YOU SPEAK OF? did I miss something here cause I have no fucken clue what you are babbling ABOUT, WHAT ???
My only ideology as you put it is to not use weapons that will kill 100 times more civilians then actual soldiers. You try to act like you know war and military and here you are stating it is being naive to oppose killing 100 civilians to 1 soldier cause that is what a nuke would do. Fuck sake if 50 civilians die while killing 100 enemy soldiers, fuck I am game for that all day long. Don't fucken make me out to look like that,... WTF
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well no shit sherlock
you guys are a bunch of morons, lmao, I am naive because I don't want to use 50 nukes on a region, seriously dude are you sane. I am against politics to the disgraceful degree they are represented and collateral damage is a fucken must 100 times more then it is now and like WW said in his post rules of engagement need to change, fuck ya they do, let the soldier do their job, so WTF IS THIS NAIVE YOU SPEAK OF? did I miss something here cause I have no fucken clue what you are babbling ABOUT, WHAT ???
My only ideology as you put it is to not use weapons that will kill 100 times more civilians then actual soldiers. You try to act like you know war and military and here you are stating it is being naive to oppose killing 100 civilians to 1 soldier cause that is what a nuke would do. Fuck sake if 50 civilians die while killing 100 enemy soldiers, fuck I am game for that all day long. Don't fucken make me out to look like that,... WTF
One American soldier isn't worth the entire Middle East population (minus Israelis). But only "pussies" use their superior technology against inferior humans, right, Noam? You're an apologist for third world barbarian jihadists. A fucking disgrace to civilized Western democracy.
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One American soldier isn't worth the entire Middle East population (minus Israelis). But only "pussies" use their superior technology against inferior humans, right, Noam? You're an apologist for third world barbarian jihadists. A fucking disgrace to civilized Western democracy.
It seems like hes an apologist for innocent women and children. I never got the impression that he was an apologist for barbaric jihadists.
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One American soldier isn't worth the entire Middle East population (minus Israelis). But only "pussies" use their superior technology against inferior humans, right, Noam? You're an apologist for third world barbarian jihadists. A fucking disgrace to civilized Western democracy.
LIKE I SAID, ANOTHER TOUGH GUY OVER HERE
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It seems like hes an apologist for innocent women and children. I never got the impression that he was an apologist for barbaric jihadists.
Thanks bro, he does not get it, and also less then 1% OF THE CAUSALITIES WOULD BE ACTUAL ENEMY SOLDIERS, very logical stands
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well no shit sherlock
you guys are a bunch of morons, lmao, I am naive because I don't want to use 50 nukes on a region, seriously dude are you sane. I am against politics to the disgraceful degree they are represented and collateral damage is a fucken must 100 times more then it is now and like WW said in his post rules of engagement need to change, fuck ya they do, let the soldier do their job, so WTF IS THIS NAIVE YOU SPEAK OF? did I miss something here cause I have no fucken clue what you are babbling ABOUT, WHAT ???
My only ideology as you put it is to not use weapons that will kill 100 times more civilians then actual soldiers. You try to act like you know war and military and here you are stating it is being naive to oppose killing 100 civilians to 1 soldier cause that is what a nuke would do. Fuck sake if 50 civilians die while killing 100 enemy soldiers, fuck I am game for that all day long. Don't fucken make me out to look like that,... WTF
Again, never said i support nuking the middle east. What i do support, in times of war, is ending thenconflict as swiftly as possible by inflicting most enemy casualties possible with the least friendly casualties possible.... nukes are off the table for many reasons other than civilians.
What im saying, is tbat you place a very high value on protecting the enemies innocents, at the point where you would let it command your judgement on how youd wage war.
If you nee that you could shell the middle of a city and knock out the entire AQ with minimal casualties, but its newr a functional school or locked in a hospital, im sorry, you shell that fucker and kill them all instead of a bloody incursion into a fortifird position by soldiers, even if it meanss you kill tons of noncoms.... you wanr them first, but you do it to save your guys lives.
You have stated several times in past arguments that you feel its better to send in troops and take casualties than it is to kill innocent women and children, because soldiers v9lunteered to fight and the innocents should be protected. Thats where im saying youre naiive, no commander can wfford to place the lives of innocents higher than his own soldiers. He has to minimize the possible innocent casualties, but if jes got the opportunity to end the conflict with a single blow, but it may require high civilian casualties... pull then trigger, because you dont know how many friendlies will die because you were more concerned about their innocents than you were your own.
Get what im saying? Like i said, i admire your idealogical purity when it comes to protecting innocents, but its not something you can afford to do in wartime.
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Again, never said i support nuking the middle east. What i do support, in times of war, is ending thenconflict as swiftly as possible by inflicting most enemy casualties possible with the least friendly casualties possible.... nukes are off the table for many reasons other than civilians.
What im saying, is tbat you place a very high value on protecting the enemies innocents, at the point where you would let it command your judgement on how youd wage war.
If you nee that you could shell the middle of a city and knock out the entire AQ with minimal casualties, but its newr a functional school or locked in a hospital, im sorry, you shell that fucker and kill them all instead of a bloody incursion into a fortifird position by soldiers, even if it meanss you kill tons of noncoms.... you wanr them first, but you do it to save your guys lives.
You have stated several times in past arguments that you feel its better to send in troops and take casualties than it is to kill innocent women and children, because soldiers v9lunteered to fight and the innocents should be protected. Thats where im saying youre naiive, no commander can wfford to place the lives of innocents higher than his own soldiers. He has to minimize the possible innocent casualties, but if jes got the opportunity to end the conflict with a single blow, but it may require high civilian casualties... pull then trigger, because you dont know how many friendlies will die because you were more concerned about their innocents than you were your own.
Get what im saying? Like i said, i admire your idealogical purity when it comes to protecting innocents, but its not something you can afford to do in wartime.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his." Patton
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Thanks bro, he does not get it, and also less then 1% OF THE CAUSALITIES WOULD BE ACTUAL ENEMY SOLDIERS, very logical stands
Your stands implies that these causalities (fuck, even mocking your illiteracy is painful to type) would be innocent. You take incredible liberties with vocabulary. Most of these civilians are complicit as far as many are concerned. They don't condemn ISIS atrocities; they often raise their children to be martyrs; they shelter and support insurgents; they celebrate terrorism. Fuck them all.
You also don't seem to understand WWII history very well. We bombed the fuck outta Germany indiscriminately. Soldiers, civilians, didn't matter. It was war, we were in the right, and we didn't have a single fuck to give about collateral damage. Mostly because there weren't PC queers like you criticizing the military about rules of engagement back then. War is nasty business, and the nastiest usually prevail.
As an atheist, I have no problem saying Islam, specifically, should be nuked from this earth. Every last Muslim. Dead.
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Again, never said i support nuking the middle east. What i do support, in times of war, is ending thenconflict as swiftly as possible by inflicting most enemy casualties possible with the least friendly casualties possible.... nukes are off the table for many reasons other than civilians.
What im saying, is tbat you place a very high value on protecting the enemies innocents, at the point where you would let it command your judgement on how youd wage war.
If you nee that you could shell the middle of a city and knock out the entire AQ with minimal casualties, but its newr a functional school or locked in a hospital, im sorry, you shell that fucker and kill them all instead of a bloody incursion into a fortifird position by soldiers, even if it meanss you kill tons of noncoms.... you wanr them first, but you do it to save your guys lives.
You have stated several times in past arguments that you feel its better to send in troops and take casualties than it is to kill innocent women and children, because soldiers v9lunteered to fight and the innocents should be protected. Thats where im saying youre naiive, no commander can wfford to place the lives of innocents higher than his own soldiers. He has to minimize the possible innocent casualties, but if jes got the opportunity to end the conflict with a single blow, but it may require high civilian casualties... pull then trigger, because you dont know how many friendlies will die because you were more concerned about their innocents than you were your own.
Get what im saying? Like i said, i admire your idealogical purity when it comes to protecting innocents, but its not something you can afford to do in wartime.
when I said that it was referring to the subject at hand and that is nukes, so you are ignorantly painting me with a wrong brush, I am saying here and now, innocent people should die in war, it is the way the world turns, so address the argument properly or zip it.
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Also, Fat Man and Little Boy. Best thing that ever happened to Japan. Besides all the lives it saved, we nuked 'em right into a democratically civilized superpower. Sony owes a huge debt to the Enola Gay.
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Your stands implies that these causalities (fuck, even mocking your illiteracy is painful to type) would be innocent. You take incredible liberties with vocabulary. Most of these civilians are complicit as far as many are concerned. They don't condemn ISIS atrocities; they often raise their children to be martyrs; they shelter and support insurgents; they celebrate terrorism. Fuck them all.
You also don't seem to understand WWII history very well. We bombed the fuck outta Germany indiscriminately. Soldiers, civilians, didn't matter. It was war, we were in the right, and we didn't have a single fuck to give about collateral damage. Mostly because there weren't PC queers like you criticizing the military about rules of engagement back then. War is nasty business, and the nastiest usually prevail.
As an atheist, I have no problem saying Islam, specifically, should be nuked from this earth. Every last Muslim. Dead.
of course it is necessary you big fool, everything that was done to take Hitler down was sound and real good. You are a moron saying every muslim should die though
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of course it is necessary you big fool, everything that was done to take Hitler down was sound and real good. You are a moron saying every muslim should die though
Nah, you're a moron assuming they offer the world anything but grief.
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Funny you call American soldiers "pussies," but I'm the "tough guy."
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Funny you call American soldiers "pussies," but I'm the "tough guy."
i never ever called American soldiers pussies, I said ''ifs'' they are soldiers, they are brave fucken hereos, not pussies and solute them and respect them
and don't worry about my grammar, I am typing from a phone, I don't give 2 shits
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Nah, you're a moron assuming they offer the world anything but grief.
so guys like George Farah, big Ramy and Fouad should just get a bullet in their heads right you fucken tool
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oh the irony :D :D :D
the ugly is reading a Muslim's book as we speak, lmao MIKE TYSON
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oh the irony :D :D :D
the ugly is reading a Muslim's book as we speak, lmao MIKE TYSON
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Fascinating book, my post-researching friend. He's as Muslim as you are literate, by the way.
Sorry, the phone, I meant. Your phone is illiterate.
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Fascinating book, my post-researching friend. He's as Muslim as you are literate, by the way.
Sorry, the phone, I meant. Your phone is illiterate.
don't flatter yourself, I have posted in that thread before so it was in my ''show new replies''
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don't flatter yourself, I have posted in that thread before so it was in my ''show new replies''
Does that somehow make your Muslim apologist self less ignorant?
Wait, why is your Smart Phone so stupid, bro? It randomly misspells words about which you don't give a fuck? That's crazy.
Also, you got hard one time and decided to memorialize your boner with a username? That, too, is crazy. Lotta crazy with you, pal.
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Does that somehow make your Muslim apologist self less ignorant?
Wait, why is your Smart Phone so stupid, bro? It randomly misspells words about which you don't give a fuck? That's crazy.
Also, you got hard one time and decided to memorialize your boner with a username? That, too, is crazy. Lotta crazy with you, pal.
oh I am so hurt, lol dude cry me a fucken river :'( :'( :'( :'(
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oh I am so hurt, lol dude cry me a fucken river :'( :'( :'( :'(
That's it, bro, all you got? Emoticons are gay, by the way. If your points had substance, you should be able to express yourself without having to clarify using little yellow faces to dramatize your intent.
Anyway, calling our boys "pussies" tells us what we need to know about you. You're on their side. Not one of ours should die because you disagree with U.S. war strategy. You're a disgrace, brother.
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That's it, bro, all you got? Emoticons are gay, by the way. If your points had substance, you should be able to express yourself without having to clarify using little yellow faces to dramatize your intent.
Anyway, calling our boys "pussies" tells us what we need to know about you. You're on their side. Not one of ours should die because you disagree with U.S. war strategy. You're a disgrace, brother.
you are so dumb, my dad was a sergeant, American soldiers are heros, they are fucken warriors, stop putting words in my mouth to look good you loser.
BTW my only argument in this thread was not using nukes to blow up the entire middle east, that is it, that is my only debate here, you are blowing everything out of proportion.
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you are so dumb, my dad was a sergeant, American soldiers are heros, they are fucken warriors, stop putting words in my mouth to look good you loser.
BTW my only argument in this thread was not using nukes to blow up the entire middle east, that is it, that is my only debate here, you are blowing everything out of proportion.
You really shouldn't be calling anyone dumb, for sure. Loser? Probably not, either. OTH, you're in no position to question anyone's intelligence. That's sort of a given, guy.
kill civilians but do not deliberately blow up cities, that is the pussy thing to do. Real men fight with other real men.
we are too much of pussies to see our soldiers die, we rather nuke cities.
"Real men fight other men," you say. When the other men are decapitating innocent children, you're still concerned with pussy-type fighting? Really? When we localized our enemy in WWII, did we or did we not blow up entire cities? Was that "the pussy thing to do?"
So why not now?
If we could save soldiers, "because we are too much of pussies," as you say, using nukes to eliminate the threat, would that still be unacceptable? Or do U.S. soldiers have to die, in your eyes, to make it a fair fight? Keep in mind, we're gone, yet they're still killing their own.
Why are you so insistent on Americans dying overseas?
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Now America have step in to defeat an Islamist group that they helped create and originally aided. It's like the Afghan/Taliban problem all over again.
Oh brother. ::)
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Now America have step in to defeat an Islamist group that they helped create and originally aided. It's like the Afghan/Taliban problem all over again.
Oh brother. ::)
What's the alternative?
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What's the alternative?
Well America have to go in now, I agree. Sort out the shit they created.
Only concern is that they will probably find a way to fuck things up worse. :-\
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You really shouldn't be calling anyone dumb, for sure. Loser? Probably not, either. OTH, you're in no position to question anyone's intelligence. That's sort of a given, guy.
"Real men fight other men," you say. When the other men are decapitating innocent children, you're still concerned with pussy-type fighting? Really? When we localized our enemy in WWII, did we or did we not blow up entire cities? Was that "the pussy thing to do?"
So why not now?
If we could save soldiers, "because we are too much of pussies," as you say, using nukes to eliminate the threat, would that still be unacceptable? Or do U.S. soldiers have to die, in your eyes, to make it a fair fight? Keep in mind, we're gone, yet they're still killing their own.
Why are you so insistent on Americans dying overseas?
if we chose to nuke the entire middle east you big ding dong, if, you know IF, HELLO, ONLY IF
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if we chose to nuke the entire middle east you big ding dong, if, you know IF, HELLO, ONLY IF
Ding dong, brilliant. Grow up, dude.
Forget "entire," how about one in Iraq? Why the fuck not? Think that might smooth shit out pretty quick? Or are the poor civilians gonna pose a problem for you?
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so guys like George Farah, big Ramy and Fouad should just get a bullet in their heads right you fucken tool
This would be enough to stop the president from ordering such an annihilation. I can imagine the Chief of Staff screaming " Mr President, what about big Ramy?". Everybody puts their head in their hands, realising they can't authorise it.
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Fuck yeaaaaaah!
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I must preface what I'm about to say with a heartfelt I love the folks in the military but... what this veteran is saying directly contradicts what his mission was. Firstly, the job of the US Armed Forces, according to the Constitution, is to safeguard the integrity of our borders. I think we all understand what "our borders" means. Secondly, once you're assimilated the fact that OK, they're not defending our borders because they are fighting 7,000 miles away from our borders, and that the war in Iraq as well as Afghanistan is a multinational corporation war effort gone wrong (and the subsequent propaganda BS campaign that comes with it,) then the next logical question (within an illogical context) is Ok, our military is there to ensure the oil we are currently stealing from Iraqis (paid for with US soldier's blood) does not fall into someone else's hands but... are we ensuring that peace (fuck democracy at this point, at least the sort of democracy our military are there to spread/safeguard) is a reality for Iraqis? The answer is NO. Not only that, they are worse off under the US mandate/puppets we put in place than under Saddam Hussein.
What is currently going on is that the very people we put in charge to take care of things (oil rigs) are now buying weapons (with the oil they are selling in the black market) and going on murder rampages in the name of Islam. We did this. Now the US media are slowly going on propaganda mode telling us that these beasts (and they are beasts) are murdering innocent civilians, training little kids on how to use weapons, et cetera; all in the hopes that good-hearted gringos passively accept more humiliation of a local population royally FED UP with the US military, the Iraqi military, the UN, the oil rigs and everyone/everything else.
So, my question to this "patriot" is: If your job was to safeguard our borders and you instead decided to take part of a corporate war... why are these guys you so intimidated knocking on my door? Why, WHY! do I have to contemplate a world in which my kids are going to have to fight these fuckers in MY backyard?
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Your stands implies that these causalities (fuck, even mocking your illiteracy is painful to type) would be innocent. You take incredible liberties with vocabulary. Most of these civilians are complicit as far as many are concerned. They don't condemn ISIS atrocities; they often raise their children to be martyrs; they shelter and support insurgents; they celebrate terrorism. Fuck them all.
You also don't seem to understand WWII history very well. We bombed the fuck outta Germany indiscriminately. Soldiers, civilians, didn't matter. It was war, we were in the right, and we didn't have a single fuck to give about collateral damage. Mostly because there weren't PC queers like you criticizing the military about rules of engagement back then. War is nasty business, and the nastiest usually prevail.
As an atheist, I have no problem saying Islam, specifically, should be nuked from this earth. Every last Muslim. Dead.
He's a libtard by choice. I imagine he separates the infant black widow spiders from the adults when he steps on them. Nah...Libtards desire to feeeeeeeeel good about what they call choices in living. Libtards desire only that people of non-color be killed because whitey is the root cause of all evil. Nazis come in many colors, libtards only recognize the absence of color when it comes to being in their favor.
We bombed the crap out of the Germans (whitey) and then the Japanese (nearly whiteyized!) but that was okay. The former because of they are whitey personified and the latter because asians are fast becoming the new whitey because like their caucasional counterparts they have the nasty habit of earning their way by the sweat of their brow and the power of their mind.
You sir, are correct. If followers of the Christ did as musilms do I would endorse their defeat. But then, they would not be true followers of Jesus of Nazareth. Muslims on the other hand can only be true followers of Mohammed if they kill on his behalf.
Screw that.
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I must preface what I'm about to say with a heartfelt I love the folks in the military but... what this veteran is saying directly contradicts what his mission was. Firstly, the job of the US Armed Forces, according to the Constitution, is to safeguard the integrity of our borders. I think we all understand what "our borders" means. Secondly, once you're assimilated the fact that OK, they're not defending our borders because they are fighting 7,000 miles away from our borders, and that the war in Iraq as well as Afghanistan is a multinational corporation war effort gone wrong (and the subsequent propaganda BS campaign that comes with it,) then the next logical question (within an illogical context) is Ok, our military is there to ensure the oil we are currently stealing from Iraqis (paid for with US soldier's blood) does not fall into someone else's hands but... are we ensuring that peace (fuck democracy at this point, at least the sort of democracy our military are there to spread/safeguard) is a reality for Iraqis? The answer is NO. Not only that, they are worse off under the US mandate/puppets we put in place than under Saddam Hussein.
What is currently going on is that the very people we put in charge to take care of things (oil rigs) are now buying weapons (with the oil they are selling in the black market) and going on murder rampages in the name of Islam. We did this. Now the US media are slowly going on propaganda mode telling us that these beasts (and they are beasts) are murdering innocent civilians, training little kids on how to use weapons, et cetera; all in the hopes that good-hearted gringos passively accept more humiliation of a local population royally FED UP with the US military, the Iraqi military, the UN, the oil rigs and everyone/everything else.
So, my question to this "patriot" is: If your job was to safeguard our borders and you instead decided to take part of a corporate war... why are these guys you so intimidated knocking on my door? Why, WHY! do I have to contemplate a world in which my kids are going to have to fight these fuckers in MY backyard?
hippie.
Defending our nation sometimes means killing others in theirs.
I mean, if they could be a threat, and then you kill them before they become a threat, youve won. Right?
(Slight sarcasm)
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Defending our nation sometimes means killing others in theirs.
That's not what our Constitution says. Assuming you're an American citizen.
I mean, if they could be a threat, and then you kill them before they become a threat, you've won. Right?
Again, out of context. Your comment only makes sense once you internalize the fact that the US Constitution is shit (and our Constitution is the basis for the Republic by the way, without it we're a lawless country) then the basis for defending the country the Constitution defines is rendered useless and, only then, does your comment make sense. We're either a nation of laws or not.
There are ways to do exactly as you pretend without breaking our laws (which our military does all the time).
(Slight sarcasm)
Sarcasm? Would you say Stalin was a sarcastic SOB?
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That's not what our Constitution says. Assuming you're an American citizen.
Again, out of context. Your comment only makes sense once you internalize the fact that the US Constitution is shit (and our Constitution is the basis for the Republic by the way, without it we're a lawless country) then the basis for defending the country the Constitution defines is rendered useless and, only then, does your comment make sense. We're either a nation of laws or not.
There are ways to do exactly as you pretend without breaking our laws (which our military does all the time).
Sarcasm? Would you say Stalin was a sarcastic SOB?
Wow.
Way to take a non-serious answer seriously.
You sir, have just failed at getbig, and the internet is particular.
Hang your head in shame.
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Wow.
Way to take a non-serious answer seriously.
You sir, have just failed at getbig, and the internet is particular.
Hang your head in shame.
Serious?
Keep going dude. Don't give up. Walk to the light!
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Serious?
Keep going dude. Don't give up. Walk to the light!
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Never got that line. You work your way to superhuman strength & agility jumping through swamps, develop powers of telekenesis, and generally become one of the most perfectly trained & lethal beings in the universe, but you get no respect until you complete your final project in shop class.
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Never got that line. You work your way to superhuman strength & agility jumping through swamps, develop powers of telekenesis, and generally become one of the most perfectly trained & lethal beings in the universe, but you get no respect until you complete your final project in shop class.
I agree. ;D I guess it was meant to sound "deeply profound". Or something. ;D
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I believe I heard crickets chirping once Brigitte was finished....
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I believe I heard crickets chirping once Brigitte was finished....
This guy seems to suggest these "peaceful Muslims" are either falling asleep at the mosque or don't own a copy of the holy book. ISIS, he claims, gets it exactly as Mo prescribed.
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Ding dong, brilliant. Grow up, dude.
Forget "entire," how about one in Iraq? Why the fuck not? Think that might smooth shit out pretty quick? Or are the poor civilians gonna pose a problem for you?
grow up ??? ??? what? you are the Einstein that want to kill every Muslim and drop nukes on 20 countries.
Oh now it is only Iraq eh? back tracking much, fucken loser
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This would be enough to stop the president from ordering such an annihilation. I can imagine the Chief of Staff screaming " Mr President, what about big Ramy?". Everybody puts their head in their hands, realising they can't authorise it.
actually no, they might reconsider just so Ramy never dethrones Heath ;D
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grow up ??? ??? what? you are the Einstein that want to kill every Muslim and drop nukes on 20 countries.
Oh now it is only Iraq eh? back tracking much, fucken loser
Start with Iraq, sure. See how much it quiets down them and their neighbors. If need be, drop another one next door. Keep going until they stop the bullshit, however far that might extend. That's the extent of my diplomacy with these animals.
House to house? Fuck off with that failed rat trap nonsense. Typical guilty white apologist, you dishonest fuck.
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Start with Iraq, sure. See how much it quiets down them and their neighbors. If need be, drop another one next door. Keep going until they stop the bullshit, however far that might extend. That's the extent of my diplomacy with these animals.
House to house? Fuck off with that failed rat trap nonsense. Typical guilty white apologist, you dishonest fuck.
I am not white nor dishonest you fucken clown
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I am not white nor dishonest you fucken clown
That could explain some things. Sorry for your troubles.
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That could explain some things. Sorry for your troubles.
thanks for admitting you are racist
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thanks for admitting you are racist
No worries.
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Also, Fat Man and Little Boy. Best thing that ever happened to Japan. Besides all the lives it saved, we nuked 'em right into a democratically civilized superpower. Sony owes a huge debt to the Enola Gay.
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People forget what kind of aggressive, war like society was before we destroyed them and rebuilt them into some of the most civilized, polite and productive people on this planet.
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thanks for admitting you are racist
A true mark of intelligence.
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I must preface what I'm about to say with a heartfelt I love the folks in the military but... what this veteran is saying directly contradicts what his mission was. Firstly, the job of the US Armed Forces, according to the Constitution, is to safeguard the integrity of our borders. I think we all understand what "our borders" means. Secondly, once you're assimilated the fact that OK, they're not defending our borders because they are fighting 7,000 miles away from our borders, and that the war in Iraq as well as Afghanistan is a multinational corporation war effort gone wrong (and the subsequent propaganda BS campaign that comes with it,) then the next logical question (within an illogical context) is Ok, our military is there to ensure the oil we are currently stealing from Iraqis (paid for with US soldier's blood) does not fall into someone else's hands but... are we ensuring that peace (fuck democracy at this point, at least the sort of democracy our military are there to spread/safeguard) is a reality for Iraqis? The answer is NO. Not only that, they are worse off under the US mandate/puppets we put in place than under Saddam Hussein.
What is currently going on is that the very people we put in charge to take care of things (oil rigs) are now buying weapons (with the oil they are selling in the black market) and going on murder rampages in the name of Islam. We did this. Now the US media are slowly going on propaganda mode telling us that these beasts (and they are beasts) are murdering innocent civilians, training little kids on how to use weapons, et cetera; all in the hopes that good-hearted gringos passively accept more humiliation of a local population royally FED UP with the US military, the Iraqi military, the UN, the oil rigs and everyone/everything else.
So, my question to this "patriot" is: If your job was to safeguard our borders and you instead decided to take part of a corporate war... why are these guys you so intimidated knocking on my door? Why, WHY! do I have to contemplate a world in which my kids are going to have to fight these fuckers in MY backyard?
The post WWII world isn't that simple. I wish it was simple, but things are a lot more complicated now for the USA and our foreign policy.
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People forget what kind of aggressive, war like society was before we destroyed them and rebuilt them into some of the most civilized, polite and productive people on this planet.
And how many of us drive their cars and buy their electronics.
There has been a soft war wages for a long time.
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And how many of us drive their cars and buy their electronics.
There has been a soft war wages for a long time.
People buy their products, or any products for that matter, because they think it's a good deal. Not sure what your point is.
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No PC. No bullshit. No tolerance.
Islam is diseased and it needs to be eradicated from western countries. However this is achieved is what it is.
The threat against us is clear and present. If you fail to acknowledge this, it is YOU who has a problem.
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People buy their products, or any products for that matter, because they think it's a good deal. Not sure what your point is.
The Japanese built their products on reliability. First during the 70s, oil crisis, then in the 80s, and damn near everybody had a Walkman, then a Discman, Toyota and Honda reigned supreme. And the domestic still use them as a yardstick for reliability. Go to any grocery store parking lot on a Sat or Sun and you will probably see more Japanese cars than domestics. Also, the Japanese are verg protectionist when it comes fo Ford, GM selling cars over in Japan. You'd be surely wrong if you don't think that making the US pay in some form or another isn't also a goal as well.
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I agree. ;D I guess it was meant to sound "deeply profound". Or something. ;D
Your machine shop skills are complete. Pretty nice surface finish you've achieved there, Luke. Mr Peterman has taught you well.
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The Japanese built their products on reliability. First during the 70s, oil crisis, then in the 80s, and damn near everybody had a Walkman, then a Discman, Toyota and Honda reigned supreme. And the domestic still use them as a yardstick for reliability. Go to any grocery store parking lot on a Sat or Sun and you will probably see more Japanese cars than domestics. Also, the Japanese are verg protectionist when it comes fo Ford, GM selling cars over in Japan. You'd be surely wrong if you don't think that making the US pay in some form or another isn't also a goal as well.
I agree with everything you just said. Just didn't get the relevance or the point of your original comment.
The particular issue was how we completely destroyed the Japanese and rebuilt into a completely different and better society.
Often it's not enough to just win. You have to completely destroy and break the will of your opponent Tecumseh Sherman style. You never want your opponment/enemy to think "If only I had done this or done that.", "If only we had this advantage or this break.", "If only it didn't rain that day and that mudslide messed everything up." No you want complete destruction.
Remember in any competition you had in life where it was close? The first thing you think is "rematch"? The Germans felt they got stabbed in the back after WW1. When we stopped at Kuwait it made Saddamn look like he survived the American Armada. He didn't feel like he really "lost" the war. Unless you break the will and destroy you enemy there is always a round two.
This guy knew what war really was and how to fight it. Brutal, without mercy, complete -- and short! You save more lives that way in the long term. More lives were saved after we dropped the A-bomb on Japan. After Okinawa and the huge price we paid and now the prospect of a much more heavily fortified and determined Japan we did the right thing. We ended it right there and then. Something we just don't do now.
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I agree with everything you just said. Just didn't get the relevance or the point of your original comment.
The particular issue was how we completely destroyed the Japanese and rebuilt into a completely different and better society.
Often it's not enough to just win. You have to completely destroy and break the will of your opponent Tecumseh Sherman style. You never want your opponment/enemy to think "If only I had done this or done that.", "If only we had this advantage or this break.", "If only it didn't rain that day and that mudslide messed everything up." No you want complete destruction.
Remember in any competition you had in life where it was close? The first thing you think is "rematch"? The Germans felt they got stabbed in the back after WW1. When we stopped at Kuwait it made Saddamn look like he survived the American Armada. He didn't feel like he really "lost" the war. Unless you break the will and destroy you enemy there is always a round two.
This guy knew what war really was and how to fight it. Brutal, without mercy, complete -- and short! You save more lives that way in the long term. More lives were saved after we dropped the A-bomb on Japan. After Okinawa and the huge price we paid and now the prospect of a much more heavily fortified and determined Japan we did the right thing. We ended it right there and then. Something we just don't do now.
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How do you feel about a few tactical nukes decimating some Middle East hot spots?
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How do you feel about a few tactical nukes decimating some Middle East hot spots?
I feel like there would be lots of fresh, glass parking lots for the new Super Wal Marts that would be going in.
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pallius using his eyes to produce fairy tales again
the Japanese fascists were put right back into power after the war
as you were...
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"In retrospect, apart from the military officer corps, the purge of alleged militarists and ultranationalists that was conducted under the Occupation had relatively small impact on the long-term composition of men of influence in the public and private sectors. The purge initially brought new blood into the political parties, but this was offset by the return of huge numbers of formerly purged conservative politicians to national as well as local politics in the early 1950s. In the bureaucracy, the purge was negligible from the outset. ... In the economic sector, the purge similarly was only mildly disruptive, affecting less than sixteen hundred individuals spread among some four hundred companies. Everywhere one looks, the corridors of power in postwar Japan are crowded with men whose talents had already been recognized during the war years, and who found the same talents highly prized in the 'new' Japan."
J. W. Dower