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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/25/justice/south-carolina-trooper-shooting/index.html?hpt=us_c2
CNN) -- One moment, a man reaches into his vehicle after a South Carolina trooper asked for his driver's license.
Seconds later, the trooper shoots him, and the man asks why. Days afterward, prosecutors aren't satisfied with the answer.
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Cop deserves to go to jail for a long time in this one.
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Cop deserves to go to jail for a long time in this one.
What an fucking asshole. Poor kid is like, why you shoot me? Cop fires a couple times too
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cop has some issues
attempted murder
there is no defence for that
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Very lucky he didn't died
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What an fucking asshole. Poor kid is like, why you shoot me? Cop fires a couple times too
I felt really bad for the victim here. Even when the moron cop called the ambulance in, he was not helping with first aid or anything. He was just telling him to sit tight and wanted to argue about the seatbelt.
He deserves a long sentence.
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cop has some issues
attempted murder
there is no defence for that
He fucking panicked? or what do you think happened? Pure stupidity?
Does not make me feel very safe around cops that's for sure
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He fucking panicked? or what do you think happened? Pure stupidity?
Does not make me feel very safe around cops that's for sure
don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
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don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
Very true!
But in this case its just not very comforting to have to deal with the law. Its very scary shit.
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The neegul did rush into his car relatively quickly.
It "spooked" the officer.
He cant be charged with anything too serious, as there is a total lack of intent.
Should be fired. Poor training, poor judgement, poor suspect control.
My opinion is that there should be no jail time, as the officer clearly was NOT just looking to shoot someone. He got scared.
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Al Sharpton is on his way!!
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The neegul did rush into his car relatively quickly.
It "spooked" the officer.
He cant be charged with anything too serious, as there is a total lack of intent.
Should be fired. Poor training, poor judgement, poor suspect control.
My opinion is that there should be no jail time, as the officer clearly was NOT just looking to shoot someone. He got scared.
But surely when you tell someone said "get your licence" they are going to get their licence. He shot the guy for doing what he told him to do. If I asked someone to get their licence my common sense would expect me to see them reach for the glove box to retrieve papers.
Although I agree, I don't think the policeman was malicious, just paranoid and trigger happy and poorly trained and approach the whole situation from the wrong angle. The lack of compassion after was shocking though, he just shot and injured an innocent man.
Would love to be the neegul right now though......he's gona get a 7 figure settlement for a harmless bullet in the hip. That is a good return for his investment in my opinion.
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The neegul did rush into his car relatively quickly.
It "spooked" the officer.
He cant be charged with anything too serious, as there is a total lack of intent.
Should be fired. Poor training, poor judgement, poor suspect control.
My opinion is that there should be no jail time, as the officer clearly was NOT just looking to shoot someone. He got scared.
That's why I said he panicked when the black kid was reaching fast to comply with the officer.(but he should be trained for that shit)
The saying"Nice and easy now..."
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But surely when you tell someone said "get your licence" they are going to get their licence. He shot the guy for doing what he told him to do. If I asked someone to get their licence my common sense would expect me to see them reach for the glove box to retrieve papers.
Although I agree, I don't think the policeman was malicious, just paranoid and trigger and poorly trained and approach the whole situation from the wrong angle.
Would love to be the neegul right now though......he's gona get a 7 figure settlement for a harmless bullet in the hip. That is a good return for his investment in my opinion.
Oh absolutely. He was all the way wrong, but he wasnt malicious.
It said he had to shoot someone last year, he was prob still very shook up over that. I reckon his legal team will use that angle.
And yes. I would take a non life threatening bullet wound any time for a 7 figure pay day!
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Copper probably had a bad experience in the past and has since become overly paranoid. Someone like that shouldn't really be on the beat anymore.
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Copper probably had a bad experience in the past and has since become overly paranoid. Someone like that shouldn't really be on the beat anymore.
Well this time he is out I would say. Thank god the kid didn't die.
Big pay day coming for the victim.
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Listen to the troopers voice, he sounds like a bitch. Never give a bitch like that power and a gun.
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don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
What do you think we should do when a cop asks for our id? Reach for it and risk getting shot, or hesitate to get it and risk getting thrown to the ground and cuffed?
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He will lose his badge and more than likely do time. Even if there were "issues" with the cop, this was a fucked up shoot. Not legit at all.
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He will lose his badge and more than likely do time. Even if there were "issues" with the cop, this was a fucked up shoot. Not legit at all.
Spoken from a responsible gun owner.
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don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
This.
It amazes me, how when people make comments like that they don't see their own lack of intelligence? Obviously only the dickhead cops are posted on youtube, so you can't make a judgement from that source lol.
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He will lose his badge and more than likely do time. Even if there were "issues" with the cop, this was a fucked up shoot. Not legit at all.
He was fired. Hope he lands in prison.
This is SC DPS director's statement:
After my review of the facts surrounding this matter, I have determined that Mr. Groubert's actions rose to such an extent that his employment with us must be terminated. The facts of this case are disturbing to me, but I believe this case was an isolated incident in which Mr. Groubert reacted to a perceived threat where there was none. The department's Use of Force Policy makes clear that officers shall use "only the level of force necessary to accomplish lawful objectives" and that "the use of force must be discontinued when it becomes apparent to the officer that the force is no longer needed." That protocol was not followed in this case.
Further, this incident occurred in broad daylight. Mr. Groubert had a clear and unobstructed view of Mr. Jones. While Mr. Groubert was within the law to stop Mr. Jones for a safety belt violation, the force administered in this case was unwarranted, inconsistent with how our troopers are trained, and clearly in violation of Department policies. These violations demonstrate behavior that deviates from SCDPS standards and cannot be tolerated.
The Highway Patrol professionally makes around 750,000 traffic contacts per year. Our troopers are trained to protect the public we serve, and motorists' safety is paramount to us. Groubert's actions in this situation were contradictory to the outstanding training our troopers receive. This case has been thoroughly investigated by the State Law Enforcement Division and has been turned over to the Fifth Circuit Solicitor's Office for review and determination of any subsequent criminal charges. The SCDPS Office of Professional Responsibility's internal investigation of this case continues. Additionally, the trooper's in-car video is part of an ongoing criminal prosecution review and, therefore, will be released in coordination with Solicitor's Office. I want to thank the community for its patience as we continue our administrative investigation into this matter."
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don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
Agree 100%. All the bleaters complaining about the police but what would happen if we didn't have them. Society would fall apart.
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Agree 100%. All the bleaters complaining about the police but what would happen if we didn't have them. Society would fall apart.
Maybe if they had higher entry standards to keep the stupid and the deranged out...
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The officer should have been closer to the driver when he (the trooper) asked the driver for his license.
If the officer was closer, he could've watched the driver get the license.
The trooper was too far away, and he hit the panic-button when he couldn't see what the driver was doing inside the car.
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What do you think we should do when a cop asks for our id? Reach for it and risk getting shot, or hesitate to get it and risk getting thrown to the ground and cuffed?
for your sake I hope you are trolling
cops stop hundreds of thousands of people every day without incident
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Very lucky he didn't died died
Fixed...oh, wait. ;D
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Now this neegul deserves to be paid. That trooper is an idiot.
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Now this neegul deserves to be paid. That trooper is an idiot.
Thank God that this event was captured on video.
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Fixed...oh, wait. ;D
lol
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Now this neegul deserves to be paid. That trooper is an idiot.
You're right. Nigggga deserves a big azz pay check. To bad the Neeguls always back the wrong horse.
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Thank God that this event was captured on video.
Yup...Here's another example:
The story sans video was posted a few weeks back, and just about everyone was defending the actions of the police. Maybe seeing the video will change a couple folks' tunes
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Thank God that this event was captured on video.
And that nobody was seriously hurt.
I bet he uses a PTSD defense due to his prior shooting.
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most cops should be digging ditches.
Bunch of low IQ troglodytes with batches and guns. The entry level requirements are so low its ridiculous. I doubt any beat cop in the country could pass a discrete structures class yet they consider themselves better than the average citizen.
damn shame I tell you.
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Very lucky he didn't died
No shit. One wonders if he did died then things could be more (less litigiously?) tidied away?
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Bunch of low IQ troglodytes with batches and guns. The entry level requirements are so low its ridiculous. I doubt any beat cop in the country could pass a discrete structures class yet they consider themselves better than the average citizen.
I'm told there are some intelligent ones. There have been occasional sightings, and some blurry photos capturing them in the open. Some people dispute the authenticity of the photos, but there are many who believe them to be genuine.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Smalfut.jpg)
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I'm told there are some intelligent ones. There have been occasional sightings, and some blurry photos capturing them in the open. Some people dispute the authenticity of the photos, but there are many who believe them to be genuine.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Smalfut.jpg)
Another Pictor of Groink! Same photographer.
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It's a good things cops are protesting body cameras so, "the public won't be second guessing their decisions"...maybe its time in America where we start talking about disarming the police.
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I'm told there are some intelligent ones. There have been occasional sightings, and some blurry photos capturing them in the open. Some people dispute the authenticity of the photos, but there are many who believe them to be genuine.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Smalfut.jpg)
LOLOLOL
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It's a good things cops are protesting body cameras so, "the public won't be second guessing their decisions"...maybe its time in America where we start talking about disarming the police.
With escalating militaristic police budgets!? Good one. ;D
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for balance;
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for balance;
he could have just ask him to get his I.D.!
But it was a good move by the Cop guy!
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don't make the mistake of tarring them all with the same brush
everyone does that shows a real lack of intellect
there are a few bad ones
but most are just hardworking honest guys doing what is probably the worlds most thankless job
Fuck Off, it's not a matter of tarring them all with the same brush but criticising a culture that enables such issues to remain constant and unrelenting. Same deal with Islam, these apologist morons constantly defending them, when they are part of a culture that encourages people to hate and kill infidels. If it's just a few bad apples then the problem would be an easy fix, just get rid of them. But when the problem persists for decades upon decades, you know you have a cultural problem, and if the so called good cops aren't doing anything to remedy it, then they are complicit in the problem. Sick and tired of people making excuses for sick cultures and ideologies.
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i just watched the video... that shit was crazy
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Agree 100%. All the bleaters complaining about the police but what would happen if we didn't have them. Society would fall apart.
What a load if rubbish. Was the victim in this case safer because society employed a police force? Fuck No! This man would have been better of in the worst of anarchistic societies, at least he would have been afforded the ability to protect himself, better yet, not have anybody force him to behave in a manner against his will. The average citizen is negatively impacted far more by their police force and government than what they are by criminals. I worry far more about being subjected to unwanted interference in my life more by the police or government than i do any criminal organization.
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What a load if rubbish. Was the victim in this case safer because society employed a police force? Fuck No! This man would have been better of in the worst of anarchistic societies, at least he would have been afforded the ability to protect himself, better yet, not have anybody force him to behave in a manner against his will. The average citizen is negatively impacted far more by their police force and government than what they are by criminals. I worry far more about being subjected to unwanted interference in my life far more by the police or government than i do any criminal organization.
S'truth! Nicely said, except for the 'fars.'.
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They should really raise standards for eligibility, they let any moron become a cop. community college dropout? sure we'll take you
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Agree 100%. All the bleaters complaining about the police but what would happen if we didn't have them. Society would fall apart.
pay them more, make a bachelors(not from a shitty diploma) mandatory, don't waive eligibility rules for military service. take away overtime
if you increase the bare minimum requirements\salary you'll increase the quality of people that become cops
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What a load if rubbish. Was the victim in this case safer because society employed a police force? Fuck No! This man would have been better of in the worst of anarchistic societies, at least he would have been afforded the ability to protect himself, better yet, not have anybody force him to behave in a manner against his will. The average citizen is negatively impacted far more by their police force and government than what they are by criminals. I worry far more about being subjected to unwanted interference in my life more by the police or government than i do any criminal organization.
a world without laws or the threat of force is a world without consequence, and that my friend isnt an option
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Fuckin pig of peace needs his teeth knocking out.
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So many dumbass cops. I got hit by a drunk driver last week. Guy was wasted and reeked of booze. I walked away from my vehicle to fill out a police report, when I got back to my car the drunk guy is in my car, playing with my shifter like it was an arcade game. Have no idea why he wasn't in the back of their car. The cop then wrote down the wrong insurance for the guy on the police report.
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So many dumbass cops. I got hit by a drunk driver last week. Guy was wasted and reeked of booze. I walked away from my vehicle to fill out a police report, when I got back to my car the drunk guy is in my car, playing with my shifter like it was an arcade game. Have no idea why he wasn't in the back of their car. The cop then wrote down the wrong insurance for the guy on the police report.
he may have been distracted by your huge biceps.
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he may have been distracted by your huge biceps.
My rugged, good looks probably didn't help the situation either
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pay them more, make a bachelors(not from a shitty diploma) mandatory, don't waive eligibility rules for military service. take away overtime
if you increase the bare minimum requirements\salary you'll increase the quality of people that become cops
Idk man. Doesn't seem like a straight more peanuts/better monkeys situation like you'd get in other lines of work. There's a common psych thing happening with people attracted to wearing a badge & having authoritay imo.
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Fuck Off, it's not a matter of tarring them all with the same brush but criticising a culture that enables such issues to remain constant and unrelenting. Same deal with Islam, these apologist morons constantly defending them, when they are part of a culture that encourages people to hate and kill infidels. If it's just a few bad apples then the problem would be an easy fix, just get rid of them. But when the problem persists for decades upon decades, you know you have a cultural problem, and if the so called good cops aren't doing anything to remedy it, then they are complicit in the problem. Sick and tired of people making excuses for sick cultures and ideologies.
i stopped reading at fuck off
you are clearly a ruffian, a man unused to the robust verbosity of intelligent debate
i laugh in your general direction
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i stopped reading at fuck off
you are clearly a ruffian, a man unused to the robust verbosity of intelligent debate
i laugh in your general direction
Dont you just love it when people start with "Fuck Off" and then expect you to read their post.
How would that pan out in reality?
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Dont you just love it when people start with "Fuck Off" and then expect you to read their post.
How would that pan out in reality?
yes he could at least have the courtesy of putting the abuse at then end of his post
most uncivilised
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;D ;D. Haha! Awesome video.
Pig is a true coward and freak. Sadly he won't spend one day in jail. Pigs can do almost anything and walk free.
Pigs gonna pig.
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Why was the driver even out of his car? In many cities that itself can get you shot. Not saying its right or wrong - just saying not smart.
Either way probably poor training for the cop, poor command, poor situational awareness, and severe lack of judgment.
That cop SHOULD know that not everyone keeps their wallet in their back pocket. Could be in the cup holder or center console. Just not smart thinking by that cop.
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Seriously in LA if you go diving into your car like that you will at the very least get
guns drawn on you.
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(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/101cbbda299a1a7536890c00415ab3b2f1688220/c=161-0-1119-719&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WLTX/WLTX/2014/09/18/1411058032000-sean-groubert.jpg)
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/30e7bc4488b64da1b0b2ef7d4bd61337ee090343/c=202-0-1160-719&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WLTX/WLTX/2014/09/19/1411144531000-DSC-0057-a-Groubert-SM.jpg)
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8c0f543002972de07177c9b7d2bf351c539df928/c=159-0-1116-719&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/WLTX/None/2014/09/24/1411602025000-sean-groubert.jpg)
(http://www.wyff4.com/image/view/-/28242238/highRes/1/-/gh2idgz/-/Sean-Groubert--SC-trooper-charged-in-shooting.jpg)
(http://latest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/SGGrab.jpg)
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What's fucked up is I don't think that cop is necessarily a bad person. Just a dumbass without proper training probably.
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What's fucked up is I don't think that cop is necessarily a bad person. Just a dumbass without proper training probably.
Charles Manson isn't necessarily a bad person. Just a misguided soul with poor education.
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Charles Manson isn't necessarily a bad person. Just a misguided soul with poor education.
You really think this cop just wanted to shot this guy for no reason?
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Charles Manson isn't necessarily a bad person. Just a misguided soul with poor education.
tommy forgive me if im wrong
but i believe you are coming at this debate
with what can only be described
as a preconceived dislike of our friends in the force
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You really think this cop just wanted to shot this guy for no reason?
but he did!
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(http://www.wyff4.com/image/view/-/28242238/highRes/1/-/gh2idgz/-/Sean-Groubert--SC-trooper-charged-in-shooting.jpg)
DNEL
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So many dumbass cops. I got hit by a drunk driver last week. Guy was wasted and reeked of booze. I walked away from my vehicle to fill out a police report, when I got back to my car the drunk guy is in my car, playing with my shifter like it was an arcade game. Have no idea why he wasn't in the back of their car. The cop then wrote down the wrong insurance for the guy on the police report.
my dad got into an accident last week. Cop gave both parties each others paperwork and drove away lol. They had to meet up afterwards (awkward!) to trade paperwork back. Cop didn't bother citing anyone. He left and drove across street to McD drive through and sat there for 10 minutes avoiding eye contact while one of the parties sat there with damaged cars waiting for tow trucks. unbelievable. Needed coffee, I guess.
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my dad got into an accident last week. Cop gave both parties each others paperwork and drove away lol. They had to meet up afterwards (awkward!) to trade paperwork back. Cop didn't bother citing anyone. He left and drove across street to McD drive through and sat there for 10 minutes avoiding eye contact while one of the parties sat there with damaged cars waiting for tow trucks. unbelievable. Needed coffee, I guess.
If it was established that no crime had been committed then it has fuck all to do with the cop.
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This will be one of the rare times a cop goes to prison
And deservingly so.
What an asshole.
The man who got shot seemed
Genuinely nice. Even saying "sir"
After being shot. We all sometimes accidentally leave out wallet in seat or something
This is messed up
Cop
Acted like he was on some uppers
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watching the video - the last 2 bullets are fired when dude has HANDS RAISED.
I mean, MAYBE you can justify the first two, MAYBE, but the other 2, his hands are in the air, he's slowly backing up.
SHIT, at that point, I'm probably ACTUALLY going for a fccking gun. This idiot with a badge is attempting to execute him.
Also piss poor is his aim - he's inside of 10 feet and can't kill the dude lol.
I'm HAPPY to see this cop arrested, he's a liar and dangerous on MANY levels.
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The neegul did rush into his car relatively quickly.
It "spooked" the officer.
He cant be charged with anything too serious, as there is a total lack of intent.
Should be fired. Poor training, poor judgement, poor suspect control.
My opinion is that there should be no jail time, as the officer clearly was NOT just looking to shoot someone. He got scared.
I disagree.
I think we need to hold cops to a higher standard.
You can argue there was no malicious intent. I argue there doesn't need to be malicious intent.
Some people say if a boxer hits a guy then it's "assault with a deadly weapon" because the guy is a trained fighter.
Well this cop was trained too and he deserves to go to jail for what he did, malicious intent or not. He should go to jail for breach of the trust he was placed in.
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This poor Bum Lady just got a check cut out to her for $1,500,000 for her beating
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/24/report-chp-beating-victim-to-get-1-5m-officer-to-resign/ (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/24/report-chp-beating-victim-to-get-1-5m-officer-to-resign/)
Pig was fired , and may still be sent to jail as well (but wont )
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for your sake I hope you are trolling
cops stop hundreds of thousands of people every day without incident
Sure - and then there's some who get shot by trigger happy cops for going for their license.
You live in the UK - so the worst that will happen to you is a smack on the head.
What you gonna do if you end up in the US in this scenario? Think about how many guys don't get shot? Really?
I travel to US 4-5 times a year - this video will change my behavior if I do get pulled over. I'm just gonna stand there and do nothing.
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This poor Bum Lady just got a check cut out to her for $1,500,000 for her beating
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/24/report-chp-beating-victim-to-get-1-5m-officer-to-resign/ (http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/24/report-chp-beating-victim-to-get-1-5m-officer-to-resign/)
Pig was fired , and may still be sent to jail as well (but wont )
YEAH THAT WAS FUCKED UP. Dude was beating the brakes off of her.
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YEAH THAT WAS FUCKED UP. Dude was beating the brakes off of her.
she gave up the mount too easily there
she should have worked back to half guard
maybe got her submission game going
cop tko by ground and pound
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tommy forgive me if im wrong
but i believe you are coming at this debate
with what can only be described
as a preconceived dislike of our friends in the force
Greetings BMC. Hope you're well.
Negative sir. I join this debate knowing the truth about the boys in blue. They're a street gang- nothing more.
Unfortunately for the naive and uninformed, they (the pigs) are able to masquerade as well intended civil servants. Hells Angels, Crips, The Latin Kings, etc make no such pretence. Everyone knows if you interact with real gang members you are taking a risk. With the cops it's always a crap shoot- maybe you get a ticket for not wearing your seat belt- maybe you get shot because the pig was "in fear for his life and the safety of others".
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for balance;
This really has fuck all to do with the topic at hand
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http://www.latimes.com/local/countygovernment/la-me-deputy-corruption-20140924-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/countygovernment/la-me-deputy-corruption-20140924-story.html)
Six L.A. County sheriff workers get prison for obstructing FBI jail probe
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Also piss poor is his aim
For truth it is quoted.
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Greetings BMC. Hope you're well.
Negative sir. I join this debate knowing the truth about the boys in blue. They're a street gang- nothing more.
Unfortunately for the naive and uninformed, they (the pigs) are able to masquerade as well intended civil servants. Hells Angels, Crips, The Latin Kings, etc make no such pretence. Everyone knows if you interact with real gang members you are taking a risk. With the cops it's always a crap shoot- maybe you get a ticket for not wearing your seat belt- maybe you get shot because the pig was "in fear for his life and the safety of others".
do cops shoot thousands of innocent civilians in the us every year then
i was under the misapprehension
that such events were rare
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Hey Bigmc can I ask what made you leave the force? I know a guy who left Thames valley police recently and now works in security cos he could nt stand as he put it "the arse covering, corruption and bullshit."
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http://www.latimes.com/local/countygovernment/la-me-deputy-corruption-20140924-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/countygovernment/la-me-deputy-corruption-20140924-story.html)
Six L.A. County sheriff workers get prison for obstructing FBI jail probe
This was from last year right... mannnnn i remember this shit on the news.. They tried to lose and hide the fbi informant in the county jail.. some crazy shit
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Hey Bigmc can I ask what made you leave the force? I know a guy who left Thames valley police recently and now works in security cos he could nt stand as he put it "the arse covering, corruption and bullshit."
read this thread
everyone thinks they have the right to speak to you like your a cu nt
everyone has a smart mouth
i had little twinks verbally abusing me all the time hiding behind the fact that i couldnt smash them or i would lose my job
fuck helping the public they are a bunch of self righteous cu nts :D
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Also aim piss is his poor
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read this thread
everyone thinks they have the right to speak to you like your a cu nt
everyone has a smart mouth
i had little twinks verbally abusing me all the time hiding behind the fact that i couldnt smash them or i would lose my job
fuck helping the public they are a bunch of self righteous cu nts :D
Hilarious. You're attitude is exactly what you try to accuse others of. It is all making much more sense now...
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Hilarious. You're attitude is exactly what you try to accuse others of. It is all making much more sense now...
gimmickry is the sign of a weak mind and latent homosexuality
hope that helps
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For truth it is quoted.
;D
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This really has fuck all to do with the topic at hand
It shows that all cops are not going around shooting people without justification and that some cops are of benefit to the public at large.
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I'm a mild-mannered white male, and cops usually address me as "sir"....still, whenever I get pulled over I keep my hands on my steering wheel, with my license and registration in my left hand. Why give them the opportunity?
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cop has some issues
attempted murder
there is no defence for that
Amazing that they aren't charging the cop with attempted murder but some shitty Battery charge that will only see the cop do a couple of years when guilty. Also this cop has to be the worst shot ever. He was given a medal years ago for shooting and wounding someone. These assholes are taught to shoot to kill. And this cop can't even get that right...
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I'm a mild-mannered white male, and cops usually address me as "sir"....still, whenever I get pulled over I keep my hands on my steering wheel, with my license and registration in my left hand. Why give them the opportunity?
THIS. I follow every law. But when I get stopped, I turn off car, get papers in hand, turn on overhead light, lower window and keep hands on the wheel.
When cop asks to see paper, asks about gun, etc - I always say "I have my permit" (indicating zero criminal record) and then make ZERO move until I tell him I'm going to reach for this or that now. Then I wait for him to nod or whatever. Usually by then, he's done enough of a visual inspection to see car seat, lack of blounts or whatever they look for, and less likely to cap my ass.
Most of the time, cops don't even bother asking about the gun. If you have a permit, and you're 38, then you haven't done anything wrong for almsot 20 years, they are usually cool. I do'nt think I've had a cop be a dick to me in a decade.
it helps when the cop has thinner hair too haha, we men stick together.
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THIS. I follow every law. But when I get stopped, I turn off car, get papers in hand, turn on overhead light, lower window and keep hands on the wheel.
When cop asks to see paper, asks about gun, etc - I always say "I have my permit" (indicating zero criminal record) and then make ZERO move until I tell him I'm going to reach for this or that now. Then I wait for him to nod or whatever. Usually by then, he's done enough of a visual inspection to see car seat, lack of blounts or whatever they look for, and less likely to cap my ass.
Most of the time, cops don't even bother asking about the gun. If you have a permit, and you're 38, then you haven't done anything wrong for almsot 20 years, they are usually cool. I do'nt think I've had a cop be a dick to me in a decade.
it helps when the cop has thinner hair too haha, we men stick together.
Where do you keep your papers in your car? I'm guessing the glove box. Reaching for your papers(glove box) before the cop reaches your car may not be a best thing to do. Cop can see you reach across your seat but can't see what your reaching for. Would suck to get a trigger happy cop like the one in this video.
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I disagree.
I think we need to hold cops to a higher standard.
You can argue there was no malicious intent. I argue there doesn't need to be malicious intent.
Some people say if a boxer hits a guy then it's "assault with a deadly weapon" because the guy is a trained fighter.
Well this cop was trained too and he deserves to go to jail for what he did, malicious intent or not. He should go to jail for breach of the trust he was placed in.
The trained fighter angle is urban myth btw.
And no, he shouldn't be held to a higher standard. He shouldn't be held to a lower standard. The police force in the USA is a civilian police force, of the people, for the people. He should be treated like anyone else would that has commmited a comparable crime. Likely something along the line of criminal negligence.
The victim required no extensive medical service, was released the same day I believe.
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Where do you keep your papers in your car? I'm guessing the glove box. Reaching for your papers(glove box) before the cop reaches your car may not be a best thing to do. Cop can see you reach across your seat but can't see what your reaching for. Would suck to get a trigger happy cop like the one in this video.
I always keep my hands on the wheel and when asked for my license and registration, I tell them its in my glove box and ask if I may reach for them. Don't want to give these guys any remote reason to get nervous.
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THIS. I follow every law. But when I get stopped, I turn off car, get papers in hand, turn on overhead light, lower window and keep hands on the wheel.
When cop asks to see paper, asks about gun, etc - I always say "I have my permit" (indicating zero criminal record) and then make ZERO move until I tell him I'm going to reach for this or that now. Then I wait for him to nod or whatever. Usually by then, he's done enough of a visual inspection to see car seat, lack of blounts or whatever they look for, and less likely to cap my ass.
Most of the time, cops don't even bother asking about the gun. If you have a permit, and you're 38, then you haven't done anything wrong for almsot 20 years, they are usually cool. I do'nt think I've had a cop be a dick to me in a decade.
it helps when the cop has thinner hair too haha, we men stick together.
Haha. Yes.
With older cops it's always good to mention your divorce, too. (As in, "The only reason I'm driving this POS is that she took all my money...")
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If cops didnt have to deal with so many trigger happy shitheads on a day to day basis then maybe they would be a bit more relaxed when they approach law abiding citizens.
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If cops didnt have to deal with so many trigger happy shitheads on a day to day basis then maybe they would be a bit more relaxed when they approach law abiding citizens.
Exactly.
Cops never know who you are, for all they know... you're the next guy to start shooting at them out of the blue (it happens)
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The trained fighter angle is urban myth btw.
And no, he shouldn't be held to a higher standard. He shouldn't be held to a lower standard. The police force in the USA is a civilian police force, of the people, for the people. He should be treated like anyone else would that has commmited a comparable crime. Likely something along the line of criminal negligence.
The victim required no extensive medical service, was released the same day I believe.
The police enjoy numerous exclusive privileges and responsibilities, so they most definitely need to be held to a higher standard. Killing a cop carries a stiffer penalty than killing an ordinary citizen, so it's pretty clear that the law exalts policemen over the general populace.
And it was sheer luck that this individual wasn't permanently disabled or killed.
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The police enjoy numerous exclusive privileges and responsibilities, so they most definitely need to be held to a higher standard. Killing a cop carries a stiffer penalty than killing an ordinary citizen, so it's pretty clear that the law exalts policemen over the general populace.
And it was sheer luck that this individual wasn't permanently disabled or killed.
Not really, if he had been lucky the cop would have missed him altogether.
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It shows that all cops are not going around shooting people without justification and that some cops are of benefit to the public at large.
Nobody said they were.
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Haha. Yes.
With older cops it's always good to mention your divorce, too. (As in, "The only reason I'm driving this POS is that she took all my money...")
LOL this
i keep the papers over my head in the visor. II keep napkins and straws in the glove box lol.
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Not really, if he had been lucky the cop would have missed him altogether.
he will get 2 or 4 million bucks for an injury that he'll mostly get over. If the bullet misses, he gets way less $.
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New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
Source: Los Angeles Times
New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
By JOSEPH SERNA
Los Angeles Times
September 26, 2014
A sheriff in New Mexico was convicted by a federal jury Friday of weapons charges and violating a man's civil rights after a car pursuit.
Rio Arriba County Sheriff Thomas Rodella, 56, was found guilty of violating the civil rights of a driver, identified as Michael Tafoya by The Associated Press, and brandishing a firearm during a violent crime in an assault on Tafoya.
Federal prosecutors said Rodella and his son chased the man in their car and once they cornered him on a dead-end street, the sheriff got out with his gun, got into the man's car and pistol-whipped him.
Prosecutors say Rodella's son pulled the victim from his car. When Tafoya asked to see the elder Rodella's badge, the sheriff responded by slamming his badge into the victim's eye and shouting "You want to see my badge? Here's my badge, (expletive)."
Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/09/26/241260_new-mexico-sheriff-found-guilty.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
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At least no bodybuilders were involved.
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New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
Source: Los Angeles Times
New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
By JOSEPH SERNA
Los Angeles Times
September 26, 2014
A sheriff in New Mexico was convicted by a federal jury Friday of weapons charges and violating a man's civil rights after a car pursuit.
Rio Arriba County Sheriff Thomas Rodella, 56, was found guilty of violating the civil rights of a driver, identified as Michael Tafoya by The Associated Press, and brandishing a firearm during a violent crime in an assault on Tafoya.
Federal prosecutors said Rodella and his son chased the man in their car and once they cornered him on a dead-end street, the sheriff got out with his gun, got into the man's car and pistol-whipped him.
Prosecutors say Rodella's son pulled the victim from his car. When Tafoya asked to see the elder Rodella's badge, the sheriff responded by slamming his badge into the victim's eye and shouting "You want to see my badge? Here's my badge, (expletive)."
Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/09/26/241260_new-mexico-sheriff-found-guilty.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
Sounds like a routine stop, I fail to see a problem here.
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These cracker pigs have had open season on us Hebrews for years. This is nothing new. You are just now acknowledgin it. It will continue. Carry on.
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These cracker pigs have had open season on us Hebrews for years. This is nothing new. You are just now acknowledgin it. It will continue. Carry on.
Not everything should have a racist angle Wiggs.
If you look closely at the video, the poor guy (maybe he was nervous) makes an unnaturally quick move back inside of his truck. The cop should have waited until he had a better angle, to see what he was reaching for.
The cop was obviously wrong, but we are shifting slowly into a "kill or be killed" mentality by a certain number of cops. There have been plenty of situations when good cops where gunned down at traffic stops as well.
I believe every cop should have a partner anyway. Cops should never have to work alone.
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The neegul did rush into his car relatively quickly.
It "spooked" the officer.
He cant be charged with anything too serious, as there is a total lack of intent.
Should be fired. Poor training, poor judgement, poor suspect control.
My opinion is that there should be no jail time, as the officer clearly was NOT just looking to shoot someone. He got scared.
"....(He)has been charged with aggravated assault and battery, a felony that could get him up to 20 years in prison...." Looks like this cop could be in a world of hurt to me.
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These cracker pigs have had open season on us Hebrews for years. This is nothing new. You are just now acknowledgin it. It will continue. Carry on.
Sad but true! Cops are fucking pigs. End of story
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Cops are a bunch of fucking pussies.
Fuck em!
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Cops are a bunch of fucking pussies.
Fuck em!
lol
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Some years ago I was stopped for speeding (five over but I won't get into that). I was coming back from the gym and I put my wallet in the little nook between the seats. The cop asked me for my ID and when I opened the space where my wallet was he immediately put his hand on his gun and flipped the snap with his thumb. I paused and told him I was getting my wallet. This happened in a suburban area.
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Aren't police thoroughly screened for mental problems pre & post employment? Jeez...
We're going to see the true nature of some of these beasts once they body cameras are mandated in.
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Not everything should have a racist angle Wiggs.
If you look closely at the video, the poor guy (maybe he was nervous) makes an unnaturally quick move back inside of his truck. The cop should have waited until he had a better angle, to see what he was reaching for.
The cop was obviously wrong, but we are shifting slowly into a "kill or be killed" mentality by a certain number of cops. There have been plenty of situations when good cops where gunned down at traffic stops as well.
I believe every cop should have a partner anyway. Cops should never have to work alone.
Fuck me shizzo has pulled a decent post out of nowhere, well done that man.
As a cop I would more likely risk getting fired or spending time in jail than getting shot and killed by some fuckwit.
Dont blame the cop for this guy getting shot, blame the rest of the gun happy crackheads you have in America.
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Some years ago I was stopped for speeding (five over but I won't get into that). I was coming back from the gym and I put my wallet in the little nook between the seats. The cop asked me for my ID and when I opened the space where my wallet was he immediately put his hand on his gun and flipped the snap with his thumb. I paused and told him I was getting my wallet. This happened in a suburban area.
LOL i dont move an INCH without telling them what I wish to do, and asking if they want to get it instead.
the good guy card, the permit, usually puts them at ease. no mental issues, no arrests. it's like an instant background check.
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Agree 100%. All the bleaters complaining about the police but what would happen if we didn't have them. Society would fall apart.
Ahh yes. It's the police that hold together the fabric of society. Police teach us right from wrong. Police give us education, values and compassion. All hail the police! Without the police we would all be cannibals, living in caves, rolling in our feces.
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Ahh yes. It's the police that hold together the fabric of society. Police teach us right from wrong. Police give us education, values and compassion. All hail the police! Without the police we would all be cannibals, living in caves, rolling in our feces.
No but without the threat of force keeping the dregs of society under some kind of restraint you would likely be living in constant fear for your life because lazy feckless pieces of shit dont want to "earn" anything, they would rather just take it.
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No but without the threat of force keeping the dregs of society under some kind of restraint you would likely be living in constant fear for your life because lazy feckless pieces of shit dont want to "earn" anything, they would rather just take it.
exactly
if the police werent around
the dark undercurrent of social filth
would rise to the surface and take what they cant be arsed to work for to buy
im sure tommy would be all smiles as he got fucked in the ass by a marauding gang of rapists
as they stole all his posessions and left him bleeding on the floor
but at least he would be free of the tyranny of the police ::)
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:D. If all the marauding rapist were as cute & sassy as you BMC I wouldn't mind. (No homo)
Iron brother, we simply disagree. Happens often.
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Simon and bigmc are right. It would be total anarchy without a police force or government.
It would be exactly like the wild west. People didn't bat an eyelash when someone was gunned down in the street back then.
We have evolved. Some of us anyway.
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New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
Source: Los Angeles Times
New Mexico sheriff found guilty of pistol-whipping, civil rights violations
By JOSEPH SERNA
Los Angeles Times
September 26, 2014
A sheriff in New Mexico was convicted by a federal jury Friday of weapons charges and violating a man's civil rights after a car pursuit.
Rio Arriba County Sheriff Thomas Rodella, 56, was found guilty of violating the civil rights of a driver, identified as Michael Tafoya by The Associated Press, and brandishing a firearm during a violent crime in an assault on Tafoya.
Federal prosecutors said Rodella and his son chased the man in their car and once they cornered him on a dead-end street, the sheriff got out with his gun, got into the man's car and pistol-whipped him.
Prosecutors say Rodella's son pulled the victim from his car. When Tafoya asked to see the elder Rodella's badge, the sheriff responded by slamming his badge into the victim's eye and shouting "You want to see my badge? Here's my badge, (expletive)."
Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/09/26/241260_new-mexico-sheriff-found-guilty.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
Hahahaha.... Good for the dickhead pig. At 56, he probably fucked people over for many years, and was probably looking forward to retiring in a few years and further fuck the public out of undeserved retirement money.
Not gonna happen now, pig. Ha Ha. Spend that liquidated retirement fund on a defense attorney, then say good-bye to your freedom for a bit. Hopefully the person he "showed his badge to" will sue his ass for violating his civil rights. Get out your checkbook, tough man. Hahahahaha......
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Simon and bigmc are right. It would be total anarchy without a police force or government.
It would be exactly like the wild west. People didn't bat an eyelash when someone was gunned down in the street back then.
We have evolved. Some of us anyway.
Its "eyelid", ....homo.
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:D. If all the marauding rapist were as cute & sassy as you BMC I wouldn't mind. (No homo)
Iron brother, we simply disagree. Happens often.
I'd use lube just for you - no homo
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Its "eyelid", ....homo.
Both are accepted forms of the phrase, I think "eyelash" may be more common in the US
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Both are accepted forms of the phrase, I think "eyelash" may be more common in the US
Higher percentage of fags?
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Higher percentage of fags?
Definately the UK. You guys have evolved jagged teeth to avoid cock damage.
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Higher percentage of fags?
I thought the saying was simply "not bat and eye." I looked in up and eyelid is also acceptable.
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Definately the UK. You guys have evolved jagged teeth to avoid cock damage.
That doesn't make sense, are you drunk?
Wouldn't smooth teeth avoid cock damage in the context you intended it?
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That doesn't make sense, are you drunk?
Wouldn't smooth teeth avoid cock damage in the context you intended it?
No, jagged teeth were put into place to suck the proper cock.
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Fuck me shizzo has pulled a decent post out of nowhere, well done that man.
As a cop I would more likely risk getting fired or spending time in jail than getting shot and killed by some fuckwit.
Dont blame the cop for this guy getting shot, blame the rest of the gun happy crackheads you have in America.
Uh, you do realize some of these cops are the "gun happy crackheads"..
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No but without the threat of force keeping the dregs of society under some kind of restraint you would likely be living in constant fear for your life because lazy feckless pieces of shit dont want to "earn" anything, they would rather just take it.
Actually, take away the police, and the citizenry would clean them up VERY QUICKLY. It's actually the police who hinder that.
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Simon and bigmc are right. It would be total anarchy without a police force or government.
It would be exactly like the wild west. People didn't bat an eyelash when someone was gunned down in the street back then.
We have evolved. Some of us anyway.
You got your education from the TV didn't you.
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Uh, you do realize some of these cops are the "gun happy crackheads"..
Yes of course a small percentage of all walks of life are gun happy crackheads.
Actually, take away the police, and the citizenry would clean them up VERY QUICKLY. It's actually the police who hinder that.
So you condone vigilantism and violence?
You got your education from the TV didn't you.
And you got yours from the university of youtube.
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Aren't police thoroughly screened for mental problems pre & post employment? Jeez...
We're going to see the true nature of some of these beasts once they body cameras are mandated in.
The screening is farce for the most part. Many police departments hire young kids right after they came out of the military. And many in the military are mentally fukced in the head.
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The screening is farce for the most part. Many police departments hire young kids right after they came out of the military. And many in the military are mentally fukced in the head.
great combo! Release the mad dogs on civilians
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I felt really bad for the victim here. Even when the moron cop called the ambulance in, he was not helping with first aid or anything. He was just telling him to sit tight and wanted to argue about the seatbelt.
He deserves a long sentence.
what a fckin psycho , no empathy whatsoever.
belongs in prison.
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great combo! Release the mad dogs on civilians
Yup.
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Yup.
I like this muscleman2013 cat. He knows the truth. Sure, he's insane... still he knows the truth.
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It's the fucking 60's again.
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my dad got into an accident last week. Cop gave both parties each others paperwork and drove away lol. They had to meet up afterwards (awkward!) to trade paperwork back. Cop didn't bother citing anyone. He left and drove across street to McD drive through and sat there for 10 minutes avoiding eye contact while one of the parties sat there with damaged cars waiting for tow trucks. unbelievable. Needed coffee, I guess.
If he had an accident on a non-public road, then an officer cannot cite either party....just give paperwork
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Actually, take away the police, and the citizenry would clean them up VERY QUICKLY. It's actually the police who hinder that.
have a walk round Libya
see how long it is before you get beheaded
no police there bro right up your street
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If he had an accident on a non-public road, then an officer cannot cite either party....just give paperwork
100 Percent true!
Most Parking Lots will fall into this (private property) and a lot of times if someone backs into you, you will be fucked and their insurance will not have to pay at all. Nobody will get a ticket either.
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Ahh yes. It's the police that hold together the fabric of society. Police teach us right from wrong. Police give us education, values and compassion. All hail the police! Without the police we would all be cannibals, living in caves, rolling in our feces.
You are actually correct (even though you don`t realize it). Laws are only worthwhile if they are enforced. The nicer the area, usually the more strictly the law are enforced. Any area where laws are not enforced strictly or where too many laws are being broken and not enough enforcement, that area will be a complete shit hole. Detroit is a great example.